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00:00 Who is this idiot? Adam Curry. John C. Devorak. It's Thursday, May 3rd, 2012. Time for your Get My Nation Media Assassination episode 405. This is no agenda. Proud to be your confidential human resource here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where third time's a charm, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Second time's often good too. Well, I figured I'd have that in there just in case you blew it again.

00:38 This is why people should listen live because that's when you hear not only when we mess up or when I I'll say it when I mess up the beginning of the show but of course you also You are you get to hear our beautiful and incredibly musical slide whistle concerto Yeah, well that's still we can take that on the road brother great it wouldn't make any difference is still a slide whistle Just practice. How's the patent coming for our for the what is it called the synth a slider? Oh?

01:19 Uh, yeah. Yeah, that's coming along. Yeah. We're moving along at our normal pace. Someone registered the domain name but neglected to send us an email about it. He's probably just sitting on it. He's probably like, yeah. It's like a patent troll. Screw those two guys. I hate that show. Wait until they come out with their syntheslider. I'll screw them then. Haha, I have the domain name. Yeah. Well, I have to say, um, there's quite a lot of news going on. I mean, not on television, of course. Oh, by the way, television now officially for the first time in two decades that less people watch television. Less hours per person, per family, per household. I know. It's been a trend. It's been trending that way. There's no reason for it to change. No, this is the first time Nielsen actually made a big deal about it.

02:15 And it's like 45 minutes less per year or something. It's like 30 seconds a day less. CNN, however, is officially dead. They're gone. I mean, I can't even watch them anymore. Oh. It's what Mickey calls mom news, which I think is an insult to moms, but... Yeah, they have, on average, it's now like 100,000 people watching. What? Yeah, oh yeah. It's that bad. Sounds like tech TV. I don't need to tech TV ever get past 80. I'm not so sure. No, I don't think so. I think the typical listeners were about 40.

02:59 But we were beyond the asterisk so there was enough numbers that you could count them. Right, right, right. Well, beyond the asterisk is minimum 10,000 I think. Yeah. I think that's what it is. Well, there are shows that are on cable that get an asterisk. Well, welcome to the Asterix podcast everybody. This is the No Agenda show. Some call it the greatest podcast in the universe. I'm Adam Curry and in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. And in the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground and the feet washing the shore in the Vancouver coast. And let us remember our submariners, the ships under the sea, who are definitely tuned in and listening. Well there's one guy. Well we know of one. That's good. And of course our chat room. Everyone's charged up ready to go. Nice to see you there. Noagendastream.com. Noagendachat.net. Speaking of

03:53 boots on the ground and ships at sea and under the sea. I got an email from one of our listeners at Fort Stewart where our president was, remember he went on stage again and said you got to marry up, marry up into the gene pool. Yeah, he says that all the time. In the morning I had a joke. I brought that up on the, there was an interesting kind of anomaly That do we brought this up on that generation x3 show that you know with the kids yeah another asterix program. Oh definitely I Can't say it asterisk double platinum asterisk It's a hard word asterisk asterisk asterisk yeah, it was interesting because

04:46 Dorian, the female member of the panel, she said that they have an anonymous... Anonymous? An anomaly? An anomaly. She said, what happens when you're trying to... You might want to marry up, but both parties in the relationship both think they're smarter than the other person. So it's like, in other words, neither one, you know, you could have both parties thinking the exact same thing. Right. How could you marry up if like, say you both thought the other person was smarter. And you wonder why this is an asterisk show. You had to see it. It was very funny. Yeah, it was great. Well, let me continue with my email from Fort Stewart. Men and women serving there.

05:33 From your comment on the last show about quote there are no listeners at Fort Stewart during the conversation about Obama, I would like you to know, I would like you to know there are quite a few here, military and civilian. Just wanted to add in our battalion of about 1,500 soldiers when our commander asked who wanted to go to President Obama's speech we had an astounding two volunteers. So we were all forced to go because no one supported him. What? Yeah! So they had a battalion of 1,500. The commander says, who wants to go to see the president? And two douchebags go, you know, like they pull the hand back down. I'm sorry. It was just a rule. Never. You know, that's a smart group of people because of the old army rule is never volunteer for anything. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Who knows what you had to do after the guy. You don't know. So then they were forced. They were forced to to go forced march.

06:34 Isn't that awesome? I love it when we get emails from our military. The Combinut's a Japanese guy. He didn't understand the question. No, no, they forced march. Oh, I'm sorry. I did not know. World War II reference. So, this campaign is in full force, man. This is really quite amazing. The only thing that's been on the so-called news, which we're here to deconstruct twice a week for you, about two and a half hours each time, is of course the, now that we celebrated the first anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden, now of course it's perfect time to release information, the treasure trove, the gold mine that we discovered in his compound in Abbottabad.

07:32 Which by the way, I'm quite pleased to hear that we are pronouncing it correctly. And not a single... There's only... There was one guy, there was a discussion on... I think it was Face the Nation or something. And everyone... And you know, who's the old guy? Bob something or other? Bob Vila? Schieffer. Was it Schieffer? And he's going, abadabad. Everyone's going abadabad. And one guy, he says, well, I was actually in Abadabad. I'm like, yeah, I bet you were because you pronounce it correctly. Abadabad. Yeah, you think that these guys, you know, they have all these books, you know, the network guys are supposed to pronounce everything correctly unlike us. Yeah. You know, we're just podcasters. Yeah, asterisks. They never do. I don't think ever go to the Gazetteer. There's an NBC book on the topic that shows all the pronunciations that very collectible book, giant book of how to pronounce things.

08:19 I don't know. Of course they don't. Of course they don't. So I've got a couple of clips about this. Okay, well then I have one. Actually I have two of Erin Burnett but she's not even worth it. But that's you. Dude, go. I thought you said CNN was dead and you're still... I didn't watch it. Someone sent it to me. But I have an ABC clip. But let's do your clips first because I'm going to win the coveted Clip of the Day award with my clip. Okay, well early in the show right off if you if you are so confident that you will then you probably will because I don't Believe I have a clip of the day competitor. Well, then why does have some interesting clip? Why'd you show up to the meeting then? So here we go. So let's start with so I was getting the clips from from C-SPAN no from the NBC we're gonna have a

09:11 a slant because NBC is just a promotion company for Obama. But there's little things that slip and Hillary is one of the people that you know she's so free you know in a way she yaks about things. I thought there was a little anecdote here by Hillary that drew in a piece of information I was unfamiliar with. Operations command outlined a possible raid on the suspected bin Laden compound. I had a hundred 100% faith in the Navy SEALs themselves. Bill McRaven, the head of special forces, had worked with us for months to think through every possible scenario. He's a guy who inspires a lot of confidence and he's a no-nonsense guy. I remember the moment in the sit room, you know, someone said, well, you know, this sounds really dangerous that we're going to expose our guys and what do we know is going to happen? And he said, well, with all due respect, we've done this hundreds of times. Really?

10:09 We're hundreds of compounds, huh? Or hundreds of Bin Laden's. Which one is it? I have no idea. It was never explained. Hundreds of times of what? You know, I was reading the White House insider over there on the Ulsterman blog. And this is an old report. It was maybe six months ago or so. And he says, This is all before all this again six months ago He says absolutely not true that Panetta had already signed the order that he and Hillary Clinton and Robert Gates were all on board we want to do this we're gonna go in and Valerie Jarrett according to the insider refused to let President Obama say go ahead and do it and it got so bad that Bill Daley

10:58 Remember the daily of the daily crime family Chicago crime family that he had a one-on-one chat with Valerie Jarrett and only then did the president say okay? I'll give the 48-hour and then they actually pulled him off the golf course to come in to the sit room So this it's completely the opposite and it was Robert Gates who said look if you're not gonna do this I'm gonna resign early and we and he he kind of followed through on that and Hillary Clinton apparently said she was going to start leaking information that the president couldn't make a decision. That's from the insider. That's pretty funny. Now the way they explained on this, this is a whole show essentially about this celebration. Celebration! Hold on a second. Let's celebrate! You didn't celebrate with me. Oh brother.

11:58 So anyway, Mike Mullen was the one who apparently was the real let's do it this way according to the show. They also said that Hillary was wishy-washy. The Gates wanted to just drone the place. I'm all for that. Yeah, why we what's the point? Let's just drone it. So they wanted to blow it up and then you couldn't figure it was the guy you know who it was that you killed they say. Right. And then and then it was he had the way they had to go Obama had to sleep on it and then he came it was the next day that he decided to do it. He had to sleep on it. Well let me sleep on it.

12:36 But Mike Mullen, who is the Navy guy that was the Chief of Staff, been replaced by an Army guy. I like Mullen, I think he seems like a straight shooter. He does have a little commentary here that was on the show that kind of discusses the the whole thing. the night of the rehearsal, every single member that was on that mission. I got to look each of them in the eye. They showed me in their execution of rehearsal and also in that steely-eyed glare that they give you that they were ready to go. Did they suspect anything when the chairman of the Joint Chiefs came to watch them practice and drill? I never asked that question. I certainly suspect that they did. When did they learn?

13:42 exactly what their mission was and who their target was. Actually you'd have to ask Bill McRaven that, but they're not idiots. I mean, they knew certainly how critical this was. They knew who they were and who they were working with. Uncle Don really likes Mike Mullen. He seems like a really nice guy. Yeah, like the kind of guy you want to have a beer with. Yeah, and then you wouldn't mind working with in some way shape or form. This other guy Bill McRaven who they didn't I didn't recall him interviewing on the show is the guy was behind the whole thing and he was he's recently become a four-star Admiral he is the The head he's not only the head of special operations, and he's a Navy guy which is weird He's I think he's stationed at an Air Force base, so this is fishy, but he's a Navy guy and

14:33 And he wrote the book on special operations. Literally. You can look him up on Amazon and there's a book called Spec Ops. And he has got the whole thing for anybody who wants to know how it works. He's got the whole thing outlined. He's like one of those writer general types. Does it include crashing the helicopter into the fence? Is that part of the operation? I think the book was written before this. Before helicopters. Yeah. Alright, you ready for my clip because I have no clue here we go. Yeah, all right now. Let me sit down Okay, it's a long clip and we'll have to stop it because it's just so much in it is so funny This is the completely compromise some stretching and this is stretching

15:13 This is the compromised ABC News. I need to remind everybody of that because yeah, NBC is a is a rah-rah outfit for the administration, but ABC is compromised. The president of news, his sister is special advisor to the president. Can't say it enough. And Diane Sawyer is toasted as usual. She's hot though when she's toasted. I like her when she's when she's kind of like this. Kind of like, ah. And, you know, so what can we do now that we have this treasure trove? We've got to bring that out to the front. And let's just rerun the script. How was it a year ago that they brought out the bombs in breast implants? Was that a year ago that they tried that and everyone just laughed at them and nothing happened?

16:00 I don't remember the date timeline on that, but it was a while. It was a while back. Okay, so let's go through this report our top correspondence Diane Shire and whoever that other dude is. Went out and just got all the info but couldn't report on everything of course for national security Let's hear listen in good evening as we come on the air ABC News has learned that US authorities are studying a new terror threat tonight members of Al-Qaeda using body bombs Explosives that have been surgically implanted in their bodies to evade security tomorrow

16:38 Tomorrow it will be the one year anniversary of Osama Bin Laden's death, making this week a time of heightened concern on the ground and in the sky. And ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross is here with these new details. Brian. Diane, well tonight American and European authorities tell ABC News they fear al-Qaeda will use these so-called body bombs. to target Americans overseas and US flights coming in from overseas. Alright, so notice that it's American and European authorities. No one mentioned by name of course because that's not how it works. It's just a PR shnunt. As a result, security at several airports in the United Kingdom and elsewhere in Europe and the Middle East has been substantially stepped up with a focus on U.S. carriers. And additional federal air marshals have been shifted overseas in advance of this week's anniversary of the Bin Laden raid.

17:28 The plot is not so far-fetched medical. Don't you love it the plot is not so far-fetched because you can imagine this could actually happen listen up it's open your mind to this this is gonna be good say there is plenty of room in the stomach area for surgically implanted explosives plenty of I don't have that much room. The surgeon would open the abdominal cavity. and literally implant the explosive device in and amongst the internal organs. Right in there. Right in between the intestines. Right in there! You see that spot? Right between all that poop there? Because you know when this thing goes off it's gonna make a big mess. Now how can we tell, how can we tell if someone

18:17 uh... has had this insurgently implanted in the summer deliver and some of the city for the last year u.s. authorities have publicly warned that the al-qaeda affiliate in yemen and its master bomb maker he ran out of syria right that down abraham al-assiri he's the master of our major here right here in a study in june ministry photo on the ABC News site. Mark that down, of course, mark it down. Have been designing body bombs with no metal parts to get past airport security. How do you think you set one of these off? Do you have to like hit your stomach really hard or? Well if there's no metal parts, I mean that, your blasting cap is a metal part. Yeah, but he doesn't know. So how would you set it off without a blasting cap? This is not explained. I mean as far as I know

19:01 Most of these things that are high explosives need a blasting cap. Well, our international correspondent forgot to ask that question, but it doesn't matter because it gets better. We're treating the information seriously. Asiri actually put a bomb inside his own brother, who he's seen here hugging farewell for a suicide mission aimed at the Saudi Arabian intelligence chief three years ago. The Saudi official survived, but a series brother died in the attack. Was that ever really explained that he had it was that a body bomb? I thought it was in his turban, and I thought I don't know now as you mentioned it. I recall that it was in his turban. And that it went off and blew his head off, but it was in his turban, not a body bump. But he can change the story for God's sake. Yeah, please, we're ABC News, I'm Diane Sawyer. In public, U.S. officials say there is no credible information of an imminent attack. Wow, this, please, you didn't hear that. Today, White House counterterrorism official John Brennan called the al-Qaeda group in Yemen the greatest threat to the U.S. And it continues to seek the opportunity to strike our homeland.

20:02 Brennan also revealed for the first time some of the details of Osama bin Laden's seemingly despondent writings discovered in his compound after the raid. Brennan said bin Laden admitted al-Qaeda had lost its way, agreeing that a large portion of Muslims around the world have lost their trust in al-Qaeda. Confessing to disaster after disaster in al-Qaeda plots, Brennan said that bin Laden urged his followers to flee to places away from aircraft photography and bombardment. As to this current threat, US authorities say they have made adjustments in security screening to make it easier to spot. Now how do we spot people who have body bombs, John? Just as a question. What would you think? Well I think we have to, first of all, check them for hemorrhoids. Okay, that's a good one.

20:54 Well, you should make them strip and see if they're lumpy. Okay, the body bombs, but how can they do it? You said there's no metal involved no metal, but they have turned up some of the radiation that goes into the body. Oh, we've turned up the radiation that goes into the body. Turn up the rate a bomb inside of him. He's talking about some damage. No, listen, he's talking about the body scanner. We've turned up the radiation. Oh my goodness. How can ABC News... Errorstreet Dance clip of the day, you're right. Let me finish it before we get to the full on award ceremony. He actually says, oh we just turned up the radiation. Wait a minute.

21:34 The CSA told me when I went through recently, you know this is not radiation. Now it's radiation? What is it ABC News? Just turned up the radiation. Just radiate the slaves. It goes into the body as well as looking for people who might have had recent operations, might be walking funny. Eee walking funny. Walking funny. Ministry of funny walks. I'm walking funny. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you're walking funny. Hey Mickey, you're screwed. You're walking funny. This is unbelievable. It gets even better. Our mind has surgical scars. That's one way to... Because it has to have been done fairly recently. The explosives cannot stay in the body long, so it would be a more efficient operation to insert it. And I know, Brian, you were asked not to report some critical details and you have not. We have not. There are some that we've left out. For national security. For national security, yes, of course. Some details like, it's a lie. Is that the detail you left out? What is this deal about the explosives can't stay in the body for long? Why? Who says? Why?

22:31 Was that explained or is that just one of those details? Maybe he can be in there for a year so the scar heals completely. I don't know man, it's like this ABC news. Maybe there's a bunch of people roaming around waiting for the scars to heal so they can walk through without being caught. Let me give myself my award first here for a second. They said they were gonna crank up the radiation. So anyway, so... Sub-clip that. You gotta pull that little sub-clip out of the clip. I will, I will. So I heard Brennan talking and this was really interesting. I'm like, hey, wait a minute, Brennan, and Brennan of course is President Obama's advisor on, well I have his exact title,

23:13 This yeah, Brennan is an interesting dude. He's a chief counterterrorism advisor correct and he after he left the Bush White House He became CEO of the analysis corporation which has been rebranded to so Tara defense and now he's a little group so you Want to be in that group for sure so I'm like wow yeah, he did a speech and he did indeed he did it at Where did he do this speech? The Wilson Woodrow Library, International Center for Scholars. And I'm like, okay, you know. I tried to get a clip from that thing. I was watching that and I didn't find it. The guy's boring. Did you see the slaves that got ejected?

24:00 I don't think you saw the whole thing. Is this the one with the woman? Yeah! That had, he was a 16 year old boy and you killed him. That one? Yes! That slave that got ejected? Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I saw it. You didn't think it was worthy of letting people listen? Because ABC News certainly didn't think it was worthy of playing anything. You know, I had to think... It's a long story why I don't have that clip. That doesn't matter. Here it is. ...agenda and is increasingly looking to attack Western interests in Nigeria as in addition to Nigerian government targets. More broadly, Al Qaeda's killing of innocents, mostly Muslim men, women and children, has badly tarnished... And I want you to listen how after she's ejected how he just picks it right up and continues. ...its image and appeal in the eyes of Muslims around the world.

24:51 We speak out about the innocence by the United States. What about the hundreds of innocent people we are killing with our drone strikes in Pakistan and in Yemen and Somalia? I speak out on behalf of those innocent victims. They deserve an apology from you, Mr. Brennan. How many people are you willing to sacrifice? Why are you lying to the American people and not saying how many innocents have been killed? Thank you ma'am for expressing your views. There will be time for questions and answers after the presentation. I speak out on behalf of Abdul Rahman Al-Awlaki, 16 year old, born in Denver, killed in Yemen just because his father was someone we don't like.

25:46 on the other hand i think that's the best thing that was great and the close the door and thank you more broadly but that is killing of innocence mostly men women children has been The guy is unbelievable! Thank you. And he just continues. He did actually explain... He could have said something like, well that was unfortunate or something light. No, no. He just rolled back the prompter more broadly. He just starts over. Hey Brennan, you're an a-hole. Okay? That's just, that's just the plain simple fact of the blather.

26:37 But he did explain, I'm surprised you didn't like what he said because he did kind of explain how it works and how they decide when to drone somebody, the so-called COC, the chain of command. I think it's worth listening to. I probably didn't get it because I was, I can't explain why, something about this guy is just, I can't really. He's boring, but you gotta listen to him. Yeah, well it's real difficult for me to listen to this guy. Well try it this time. Well I'm not going to go into sort of how many times, what proportion. This by the way was the question and answer session. Maybe you missed that. Did you see the question and answers? No, I was gone after they called the war off.

27:18 In instances there have been sort of either approvals or declinations of these recommendations that come forward. But I can just tell you that... You need a recommendation to get droned, apparently. There have been numerous times where individuals that were put forward for consideration... I just spit my coffee. They were put forward for consideration. Really? For this type of action, it was declined. Oh John, I'm so lucky. My consideration was declined for droning. You make reference to signature strikes that are frequently reported in the press. I was speaking here specifically about targeted strikes against individuals who are involved. Everything we do though that is carried out against Al Qaeda

28:14 is carried out consistent with the rule of law, the authorization of use of military force and domestic law. Hold on a second. Rule of law, authorization of military force and domestic law? Just so you know, it's completely legal. And we do it with a similar rigor and there are various ways we can make sure that we are taking the actions that we need to. We need some analogies. Give me an analogy, Brennan. To prevent a terrorist attack. That's the whole purpose of whatever action we use. The tool we use it's to prevent attack and to save lives To save lives we save lives by killing people and so I spoke today for the first time openly about Again, what's commonly referred to in the press is drones remotely piloted aircraft. Hey, let's say it properly from now on remotely piloted aircraft RPAs. This is not drones you stupid

29:08 plebs don't use that word that can give you that type of of laser like precision laser like that can excise that terrorist or that that excise threat in a manner that again with the medical metaphor that will not damage the surrounding tissue oh it doesn't damage the surrounding tissue so what we're really trying to do is a cancer throughout the world it's a cancer metastasized metastasized cancer in so many different places And when that metastasized tumor becomes lethal and malignant, that's when we're going to take the action that we need to. It's surgical precision, laser-like, excise, cut out the cancer, even though it doesn't really exist anymore, cut out the cancer.

29:59 Hey, I apologize to the rest of the world. I'm with that lady who got picked up by the big, big police officer in a yellow uniform. Big fat guy. He literally picked her up and carried her out. Yeah. I think it took a while for him to get a grip on her though. I think he was letting her go blather for a while. I don't think so. In a real, you know, one of these situations with a guy like Brennan on the stage. Hey, tase her. There should be instant three guys, boom, she's out. Yeah, she'd be just diving on her, tasing the crap out of her. Actually, yeah, you're right. Exactly. Dive on her, tase her and pull her out of there before she can go on and on. We need to make a point about this. She's not gone for a long time.

30:40 You didn't see that on TV, did you? You used to see those things on TV. When something like that happened on the news, it would be like, wow, can you believe that someone did that? There was a thing that took place, and I think it actually stems from streakers. We need more streaking going on this is the point reekers in this country of course now it's now you're by the way if you're a streaker in other words running around naked you will be Cited as this as a pervert and put on the sexual that that list yeah the sexual offender list predators list whatever it is a predator a pedo bearer list so so

31:20 At some point I think it was during I think it was also a decision made by the sports department of many of these networks It says do not if somebody streaks across do not put the camera on them under any circumstances Because it was determined from a high on high above that it just encourages other people to do it Right so during their early days of streaking in the 70s. Did you ever streak John? Oh? Yeah, come on me. Come on. I look like a streaker to you come on. Hey you I don't know you might be Concealing some al-qaeda bombs in your body. Yeah, it'd be dragging along the ground We know where the fuse is that's for sure you know seem to miss that so anyway. I heard it the

32:02 So they would show it, they'd show the streaker. They do a little blotch out of the private parts, but they'd show the streaker running around the stadium and in a football game or something. It was hilarious. And then somebody would grab him and haul him off. So they stopped doing that. And I think it's been just generally just a policy by all these stations not to show anything that's off script like this protest because it will just encourage others. And what of course what it does is it puts a damper on everything because people say well I guess it's okay because nobody's protesting. Well that's not entirely true because we recently had the guy, he was a techno expert but on the good side, cis admin and he took all his clothes off at the TSA checkpoint and they showed that everywhere. You know, she's like oh he got naked crazy guy got naked. I think we need streaking to come back. Streaking would be a very

32:54 Very good meme to bring back. I don't think it's ever really totally disappeared. I know it takes place in soccer games in Europe. No, rarely, rarely. It seems rarely because they don't promote it anymore. I'll never forget when I was seven or eight and I saw my first streaker on TV and this is a guy he had a huge schlong and he was like waving it around you know and the cops didn't know what to do. He was like doing one of those, you know, one of those hula hoop moves and was flapping up and down. And I was like, oh, that's awesome. This guy is cool. That needs to come back. I've never been the same. This is true. This is true. All right. Let's thank our producers for today's program. John, as we've already handed out a clip of the day, we've already given people some value for value. Let's see if we can get something back here. You have a few generous producers, including

33:48 Guess this is Elon Sheamus Sheamus yeah, Seamus or eon eon. I'm not sure From Ian Sheamus he's oh no Yeah, he's from Israel, right? He's Israeli. And he says 12-12-12 is his birthday, so he gave us 12-12-12. He's the new knight. He's the number two on the list, I think, right? Number two or number three. Now we have Sir Gitmo Slave, we have... I forget who our second one is. And then we have Elion Seamus. Cool! So 12-12-12 is his birthday.

34:23 Isn't that wild? Yeah. So how can he resist? Thank you for the shows and Adam, thank you for the DSC 864. Love you man, no homo, which I guess is one of your memes or something. It's from a long time ago. Your Dutch knight living in Israel. There you go. And then we have Oslok Christensen. And he does have a note which I have to go find. Here it is. Greetings from Gitmo Nation, Oil and Fish. He's a Norwegian. Just sent some cash and a de-douching. He needs a de-douching and he also needs a karma, he says, and a PS. He needs a de-douching and a karma. But he'd like to call out his friend Gjer Helg Axlen, A-K-S-L-E-N, as a douchebag.

35:09 He says he loves the show, keep up the fantastic work and he says I have to pronounce his name. So I guess he expects me to pronounce incorrectly but as he's noticing I'm pronouncing it correctly and he's a new knight he's a he came in with a nice thousand round awesome oh my god feel great now let me do you've been d douched you've got karma awesome eyes like thank you sir Dwayne Melancon from Tigard or a tie guard Oregon I keep her that I love pronouncing it tie guard or a 44444 Sir Dwayne here from get Monason Tigger. Yeah, it's funny early bird on the 444 club This is 3 3 3 plus 1 1 1 love of those numbers I also like to do a 420 about my recent big check to the IRS makes that a no-no I'd love some karma and a Dutch in the morning

36:06 I love the Norway manifesto breakdown that Adam did. It was very good, yes indeed. We don't have a Dutchie in the morning. I'll have to do it live. You can just say it yourself. In de ochtend! You've got karma. Love the harmony. Yeah, it was great. Anthony Montgomery, Westfield, Indiana 303. We'll make him an executive producer for today's show. I challenge others considering a knighthood to do it before 12-12-12. Here's my first installment of 30303 towards 12-12-12-12, which I intended to complete before 12-12-12. That's a way to do it. Do four equal payments? That's cool. That's good. Yeah, I should put it on the option list on the website, Dvorak.org slash NA. Does the numerology merit extra karma? It certainly does. He gets it. You've got karma.

36:58 Our associate executive producers Aaron McGuffin or Maguffin, Maguffin, McGuffin, one of the two, Woodstock, Ontario 29197. Fellas I prefer to say that donating is lusting and I've been humping your awesome show for far too long without a proper whores remuneration. Let it be said that I require no karma because I've been skimming it from everyone else since it started. After all, no agenda is entirely open source and instead, Adam, you can play the, it's the Sunday morning service gospel jingle because I wrote it and sang all the parts and almost blew a nut singing John C. Dvorak. I accidentally played it at church, at a church website meeting. Boy was my face red.

37:51 But I'm certain that Taylor Swift could not do a better job. Wow, that's so nice to hear from you. Yeah, let me play that for you right now. So he played that in church by accident whoops What is this That's nice executive producers associate executive producer and

38:26 I want to thank them for supporting this show, which is show number, I just closed the spreadsheet. 405. 405 and remind everyone to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak dot com slash NA no agenda show dot com where you can also listen to the show and noagendanation dot com. where you can also buy a coin or a mug. By the way, the mug, I think the mugs, which are not going to be done again by the way, they're all... Oh, they're out? Is it? The dark is over? No, because he got... Apparently the government... It's a long story, but Eric got harassed, essentially, by bringing these mugs in. From where? China.

39:08 Really? Is there like an embargo on mugs? Yeah, no, it was just it was a nightmare. Now wait a minute. You're telling me there's a mug embargo? No, there was just a some time he was targeted for some reason. Yeah, gee what could that be I wonder? Slash and a what could it be what could it be I'm looking to see if there's there's an embargo on Cuban mugs I'm sure I've been wanting to get some Cuban mugs. They're made out of cigars you know that the mug maker I Here we go, embargo, no, no, no, only on Cuban mugs. Interesting. I'd love to hear the story one day. That sounds fascinating.

39:52 No PR mentions, but that's okay. We do appreciate our brand new nights executive producers Very very kind of you to support the program support the work of course You see how it goes right and luckily there's two of us. You know John didn't make it he fell down after watching half of the John Brennan speech and you know I and my youth was able to stick with it and got a second clip and Yeah, but we were both watching and we're doing it so you don't have to. Of course you can always go out and you can propagate the formula which goes something like this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Smee! Right on.

40:50 It's good. I love it when when when people really help us out and we will be thanking more of our producers Later on in the program. Oh, that's what I forgot darn it. I knew I had that clip somewhere I was one of these guys It was a Navy guy. I think he was on and he talked like that. It was I think JC is walking by so holy crap what sometimes guy sometimes Obama also talks like that if you notice No, I haven't noticed. When people do that it's highly annoying. It's very annoying. You almost want to say, hey dude, stop it. All right, other big news this week, John. Wow, I mean the media is just really, really, really on message. On message, I tell you, because not only do we need to make you very, very afraid of body bombs so we can turn up the radiation, but we also have to curtail your First Amendment rights and

41:49 and get ready to clamp down on speech so you can't say something ugly to anybody else. Because that would be illegal. We already have all these bullying laws and let me tell you, this is not just something that happens with humans my friends, this happens in nature and it's bad. We have to stop the bullying! On that wayward dolphin stranded in shallow water outside Los Angeles, rescuers are now speculating the mammal may be a victim of bullying and is afraid to swim to freedom. ABC's David Wright has that story. Gee, ABC again, huh? For nearly a week, this wayward dolphin, nicknamed Freddy, has kept to the shallow waters of a wetlands reserve in Orange County. Peter Wallerstein and five California Fish and Game officers got out their paddle boards and tried to shoo him into the open ocean, but something unusual happened. Four other dolphins appeared to be waiting to gang up on Freddy.

42:44 Turned tail and ran right back to the shallows. For some reason there's tension amongst the dolphins. He's gay, that's why! Was it bullying? We don't know, but it was some kind of discipline. Did he seem scared? He seemed very scared. And I've been doing rescues for... What does a dolphin who's scared look like? Does he have a grimace? Is he like shivering? How do you know if a dolphin is scared? This report by the way is outstanding the way they package this. Keep listening. This is mind control people. This is total mind control. This is incredible. This is the clip of the day. No, we can't do two. Can we do two clips of the day? Really? We've done two before. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Curry's on a roll. That's right, everybody. It's the clip of the day. How you doing? Dolphin's being bullied. He looks so frightened. If you can tell if he looks frightened, then you can also tell if he's gay or not.

44:03 And there's the four dolphins ready to beat him up. They're like harassing him. How does a dolphin beat up another dolphin? I guess they poke him. I've swam with dolphins. Have you ever done that? That's pretty cool. No. Oh man. Did I ever tell you this story? No, I'm not interested. It involves penis. I didn't even less interested now. Okay. I won't tell my dolphin story then it's a good story you know Somebody wants to contribute to the show and it demands you tell it then maybe we'll do something I'm I'm against you're against the the the dolphin and penis I want to hear the rest of this segment. Are you done? Yeah? Yeah, pretty much This ludicrous

44:45 These news people I mean this is and they make like millions of dollars some of these anchors on these Diane Sawyer makes millions of dollars and she's drunk She's awesome. Yeah, we need it and you know what now Ryan Seacrest as should as Seacrest is making you know what he makes now. Oh, let me guess just salaries without his production company eight million he makes fifty million dollars Yeah, that's what but that's with the Kardashians Yeah, well he's, well yeah, he's totally... And power to him, but this guy is going to be on the Today Show, he's gonna be the special correspondent. Oh man, I hope they blow something up at the Olympics, because he's doing that, I hope they blow him up. Oh, we're so sorry, we blew up Ryan Seacrest and, oh, here's some of his hair. I have respect for him though, I have nothing against him, personally. It's just like, this guy is now gonna bring us the news? Yeah, it's ludicrous. Please, please.

45:41 So I have an interesting, it depends unless you want to stick with the bullying topic. No, I'm okay. I just wanted to point out that bullying laws are being put in place and they take away your right to say to someone you suck. Did you just drop your bottle of scotch? No, I was banging a Yeah, it's your bottle of scotch. Are you vying for that Diane Sawyer job already? Yeah, I am. Okay. I just can't drink enough. So the new Chief of Staff is this guy Martin Dempsey. Yeah, looks like Obama's Chief of Staff? The Chief of the Joint Chief of Staff. Oh, oh right, right, right, right. Who I think he's not quite as just

46:34 He seems, he's always telling jokes, he comes out when he gives a speech, he tells lame jokes, he's Irish obviously. He looks Irish and he looks like he probably can drink with the best of them. But he seems like a pretty good guy too, like Mullen. And, but he, he's a little less circumspect. So when he does his, he does a lot of talks and he's on, he seems to be more of a media whore than Mullen ever was. And he tells these stories that are like my favorite, and so he was talking about the Iraq war and some, he was just kind of briefing some group about one thing or another. And he, and this, I got this clip out of this was a, how dumb were we is the name of this clip.

47:16 where he explains what we were doing when we were Iraqi. He says that it's taken us like 10 years to even figure out anything apparently and you play this and you'll see what I'm talking about. So I was training this group of let's call them national guardsmen really is what they were I mean that's what we call them now that I remember the Iraqi National Guard I was training them to actually operate in a counterinsurgency environment against an enemy that was very well armed, by the way, even by then. By October of 03, the enemy began to manifest itself, the insurgency. And they were good. I mean, they were armed and equipped and organized.

47:52 But the police that we were building were being trained in investigations and in traffic tickets, traffic circles. I'm not making that up and I'm not denigrating it. It was an instinct. We were mirror imaging our own experience. And the police were getting clobbered. I mean their police stations were being run over. They were being killed by the dozens. And so it took us a bit of time to come together, Department of State, Department of Defense, and decide how we would work collaboratively on building up both the Army and the police. And we conceded that for a time, these police are going to have to have capability that you wouldn't have to have were you sitting here in Washington, D.C. So I'm thinking, as I'm listening to this, he had a very long talk, that

48:41 Well you remember when we waltzed into Iraq they thought they were going to be throwing roses at us and all it was was essentially we're going to take over the place for a while and then just put our institutions in as if. Yeah. Or just Rumsfeld's naivete and the whole Bush group's naivete about this, I think was pretty much summarized there by Mullen talking about they're teaching the cops how to give traffic tickets because that's what we do. This is where I'd like to tell my story again about my visit to Iraq in 2003 when I was with the Dutch Marines at Camp Smitty.

49:17 Broadcasting live for a week so there for about 10 days and every day they would take us out to a different place and Or you know different town or to see something. It's like a little sightseeing It was like a little touristic journey With flak jackets and helmets on and they took us to one of these training camps where they were training the Iraqi Guard as he called it he said what is it we used to call it the National Guard and we don't call it that anymore and And I think somewhere there's video of it. In fact, I'm sure there is. I'd have to call someone to dig it up. Have you ever seen the program, the British television show from the 60s called Dad's Army? No. Okay, so you have to YouTube that. You have to see Dad's Army. This is like a bunch of... It's almost like Hogan's Heroes with Colonel Schultz.

50:07 and not Colonel, Sergeant Shultz and Colonel Klink, right? So Shultz, he was basically a dumb fat German. So these guys, they line up. And they're giving, they have a drill instructor and the drill instructor says, uh, about face. And I swear to God, John, half the guys turn right. The other half turns left. It was the funniest, funniest thing I'd ever seen. Like these guys, they can't do shit. They can't, they couldn't do anything with unloaded AK 47s. Just wouldn't like, it wouldn't mock rifles because you know, God forbid that someone would get an idea and start shooting up the place.

50:47 It was ridiculous. It was a total scam and we were literally like looking at each other like what the hell is that? About a face I got to put a clip a YouTube clip of dad's army and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about It was just like that and we were just like whoa, okay Anyway, just wanted to give that little anecdote. Yeah. No, I you know, I've stayed showing these Occasionally on some of these news shows that will show some of this stuff with these guys or they can't hold the gun They drop the guns Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, they fire the gun and then they drop it out of fear, you know, kind of thing. Whoa! That was an explosion! Something's wrong with this gun. What a scam. It would be really funny if we didn't kill a hundred thousand people or more. Yeah, and then it would be hilarious. In the process, we're essentially a bankrupt country now. Play the Iraq War How Dumb Part 2 and we'll see what he says there.

51:42 Over time, this whole of government collaboration began to bear fruit. To your other point about the complexity of this, issues of rule of law and I'll add corruption are extraordinarily difficult to overcome because it's very difficult for us to even see it, let alone having seen it address it. And as you know, just two years ago, We had to stand up an anti-corruption task force in Afghanistan because we realized that the very mission was being placed at risk because of corruption. So I wouldn't suggest to you that we have turned the corner on fully understanding, first of all, how to address that as a whole of government, secondly, what the military's role is. But I will say we've come a long way since 2003.

52:32 And I think that as we go forward as a learning organization, we have to keep plugging away at it. But we've, by the way, the end of this story is we're closer as a interagency, as various agencies. We are a network. We are a network. But what I, what we're all challenging ourselves now is how much better do we need to be to confront the challenges that are coming? We know how to confront the ones we just passed by. You don't need that, man. Just get some drones. It's just like 10 years. This is 10 years since 2003 that he's talking about. I mean what? These guys are just breaking the bank and they're, well, you know, we didn't know anything about the corruption. Look, it took us 10 years to figure that out. Well, now we figured that out. We, because they're not in the milieu, obviously they're in their base, you know, in the green zone in Iraq, for example, or whatever. They're just not out there. They don't know what they're doing. Essentially they're just admitted incompetence. And we suck. And we know it.

53:28 Yeah, we suck, but we're learning. Yeah, we're getting there. We're learning some stuff. It's good. It took us a while, you know, but we're learning. We're better than we were. Yeah, it's only 10 years. What's your problem, slave? Shut up and pay me. So we missed something, John. Oh, we miss something all the time. Yeah, but luckily I picked up on it because again, this is from C-SPAM. Is it a meme we missed? No, it's a huge, huge policy document. Oh. Yeah, which I took the liberty of reading through for us and I was quite surprised by this and this coincidentally happened April 17th which was just about the time I think the president the Secret Service scandal was taking place

54:17 And to revisit that for people, our assertion is that the Secret Service scandal was a cover up, a cover if you will, so that the United States would not have to talk about drug policy with the Colombians and the Brazilians and the Guatemalans and the Guatemalans who basically want to make it not only completely legal to draw down drug trafficking, which has proven to work in countries like Portugal, But also to take a fee on anything that they find. But of course we know that the illicit drug trade is what's keeping the United States economy afloat.

55:00 And the primary mission of the Secret Service is to protect the integrity of the American financial system. You may not believe that, but if you go to their website, it says it right there. It's their number one mission. Number two is to protect the president and the vice president and anyone else they deem necessary. But our drug czar outlined our new drug strategy, and I did not know we had one. A drug strategy? At the summit. Yeah, you're right. But it didn't get discussed. So I'm watching C-SPAN, I'm like, ah, drugs are okay. And then I'm like, hey, hold on a second. Let me characterize those views for you. On the one side we have a very vocal, organized, well-funded advocates who insist that drug legalization is a silver bullet for addressing our nation's drug problem. Then we have the other side.

56:07 On the other side of the debate are those who insist that a law enforcement only war on drugs approach, the one that was just mentioned, is the way to create a drug-free society. You know, if only we could spend more money on prisons and enforcement and increase arrests and seizures of drugs, that logic goes, the drug problem will at some point just go away. Well, the Obama administration strongly believes that neither of these approaches is humane, they're not compassionate, not realistic, probably most importantly, they are not grounded in science.

56:46 The approach is also to not acknowledge the complexity of our nation's drug problem or reflect what science has shown us over the past two decades. Whenever you can put the answer to a complex problem on a bumper sticker, you know you probably don't have much of an answer. That's why two weeks ago we released the National Drug Control Policy and it pursues a third way for our nation to approach drug control. This is a 21st century approach to drug policy. It's progressive, it's innovative, it's evidence-based, and it represents what we believe is the way ahead for drug policy. So you can imagine my head swiveled around. There's a third way.

57:29 John, we've only been discussing the two ways and now there's a third way which is the 21st century solution to the problem. And after this invigorating speech from this very motivated speaker, I'm sure you're dying to hear what that third way is. Well, I'm sure you looked it up. Yes, I did. And it's, well, it's only a couple hundred pages. So this is, that was Director Kerlikowske. How do you spell his name? Kilo, Echo, Romeo, Lima, India, Kilo, Oscar, Whiskey, Sierra, Kilo, Echo, Kerlikowske. So this is the National Drug Control Strategy known as the NDCS 2012. And just want to outline first the strategy.

58:22 Reflects new developments in our efforts to reduce drug use and its consequences, but our goal remains the same. That goal is very lofty, John. A 15% reduction in rate of drug abuse. Wow. That's wow. You guys are setting the bar really high. 15%. So already I'm intrigued. So here is the detail of the goals. Decrease the 30-day prevalence of drug abuse among 12 to 17 year olds by 15%. Decrease the lifetime prevalence of eighth graders who have used drugs, alcohol or tobaccos by 15%. Decrease the 30-day prevalence of drug abuse among young adults by only 10% because we got to keep the money moving. We can't decrease too much. By the way, to interrupt for a second, I looked this guy up on the book of knowledge and he's a blockhead. Yeah, he is. He is a blockhead. Good point.

59:19 I reduce the number of chronic drug users by 15 percent. And then we want to improve the public health and public safety of the American people by reducing the consequences of drug abuse. This is important because, you know, we're sending a lot of people to jail. Reduce drug induced deaths by 15 percent, reduce drug related morbidity by 15 percent and reduce the prevalence of drugged driving by only 10 percent. We got to keep people drugged and driving. You know what? Not to interrupt again. But you know what one of his jobs was in the 70s? His responsibility was saluting President Richard Nixon as he boarded the presidential helicopter. That was his job? That's his guy and he was awarded the presidential service badge. That's correct. Yeah, actually I did have that. I did have that information. Oh, brother. Go on. So he was like a greeter. A greeter? Welcome to Walmart. Like Tully Savalas used to be at Bally's.

1:00:15 So, what surprised me, oh no, I'm sorry, it didn't surprise me. So they're gonna reduce this by 10%, 10, 15%. We gotta make the money back somewhere. Guess where we're gonna do that? We're gonna do it in healthcare. It all comes together and all starts to make sense. Through the SBIRT program, the SBIRT, which stands for Screening, Brief Intervention, and Referral to Treatment. How does this work? Screening for illicit drug use and use of prescription drugs enables physicians to guard against possible drug interactions and start a conversation about the negative effects of illicit drug use on the health.

1:01:00 Computer SBIRT holds promise for decreasing several types of illicit drug use in hospitalized women after childbirth, providing SBIRT in health systems, that means insurance companies and the whole healthcare system, including primary care, hospitals and urgent care settings, and ensuring these systems include specialty treatment or referral to treatment brings medical care for substance use disorders into broader health systems as envisioned in the Affordable Care Act. So what's going to happen here is you're going to be involuntarily screened for drugs and and they even it even they even put it in here. They're making up codes here it is SAMHSA has or whatever that is has partnered with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services develop and disseminate the codes available for billing SBIRT services to Medicaid so it's in the system and

1:01:57 So you're going to be screened and tested, you'll get an early intervention and that is all going to be paid for of course by insurance which means that it's all going to come out of our premiums I guess. Yeah, yeah just another way to gouge the public. By requiring that insurers offer coverage for substance abuse substance use disorder treatment services, the Affordable Care Act, which is known as Obamacare in the public mouth, will expand access to substance use disorder treatment and help establish it as a part of mainstream health care systems.

1:02:39 When the Affordable Care Act is fully implemented in 2014, millions more Americans will have coverage. It will therefore be necessary to expand and further train the specialty and primary care workforces. John, this is going to be a bonanza because of course everybody's high. We all know that. Now there's some statistics here which I thought were interesting under chapter 4, break the cycle of drug use. Annual state corrections spending has increased to more than 50 billion dollars in 2010. I like the way they make it a disorder. Oh of course it's a disorder.

1:03:16 In 2010, over 7 million people in the United States were under the supervision of the criminal justice system, over 2 million incarcerated, and the remaining 5 million on probation or parole. I mean, you're talking about some big numbers here. And then we have, and I hadn't heard about this, and this is the thing that really blew me away. With the enactment, this is just a line I picked up. With the enactment and retroactive application of the Fair Sentencing Act, The disparity in sentencing between offenses for crack cocaine and powder cocaine has been drastically reduced. I'm like, well, what is this all about?

1:03:55 Now the Fair Sentencing Act, which we missed quite honestly, was signed into law by President Obama in 2010. Yeah, we didn't completely miss it. I was aware of it. This was the, this law was passed for the purposes of normalizing sentencing between blacks and whites. Right, but what it does is there was a 100 to 10 sentencing disparity. In other words, if you had five grams of crack You would you faced a 10-year mandatory minimum for carrying you face 10 years Right for 5 grams of crack. So what they've done now is they've moved that up So they haven't reduced cocaine the cocaine is you have to have 500 grams before you get your five-year mandatory because of course rich people 500 yeah

1:04:48 500 grams of yes of powder cocaine faces five year mandatory quarter pound. Yes. Yeah, that's a that's a lot of blow. I wouldn't think it is like a scar face. But think about it. This is for rich people, the rich people who can afford that. I have no idea what it costs, but it seems like that would be a wouldn't be cheap, tidy sum for 500. If you get nailed with 500 grams, of course, every congressman has 500 grams in his office. But for black people, as you point out, the way it's literally written in this, they changed it from five grams of crack, which of course even Whitney Houston, you know, said crack is whack. We don't do crack, which is obviously a, you know, it's a little bit of a rock cocaine boiled down in some horrible chemicals. They've raised that so you can now have 28 grams of crack before you get hit with a five-year mandatory sentence. This is great!

1:05:48 We, the message is smoke more crack. Am I nuts or am I, smoke more crack. Hey, hey man, how many grams? 25 grams, you're good to go. Don't worry about it. Smoke more crack, it's awesome. Well, that's the favor that Obama's done for the black community. They've been waiting for him to do something. They can smoke more crack! For the black community and that's, you can give Obama 100% of the credit for that one. That we can smoke more crack. Yeah. Good! Well, that's great. I think this is a 21st century solution right there. Smoke more crack. Smoke more crack. Smoke more crack act.

1:06:26 The Smoke More Crack Act. So apparently, you know, so what they're doing now is they're saying, well, the administration supports a combined health and safety approach to addressing substance abusing offenders. And so they now have drug courts where they guess they count how much crack you had. And by the way, this is a $10 billion bill of which six billion is still going to law enforcement. So it's complete crap and just lies. There are 2600 drug courts and they continue that number continues to grow as this as this document points out proudly. OK.

1:07:08 Let me just skim through this here for a second. They want to disrupt domestic drug trafficking in production. Again, a 21st century solution. And this one got kind of crazy. Transnational criminal organizations operating in the United States produce, import or distribute illicit drugs through the nation, posing a persistent and dangerous threat to public health and safety. These organizations use parcel services, tunnels, aircraft, trains, boats, vehicles with hidden compartments, and other conveyances to traffic drugs into and throughout the nation, particularly along the southwest and northern borders. Hello Canada, are you paying attention? In addition to traditional drugs, here it comes, communities are now concerned with the new synthetic drugs, such as those commonly sold as bath salts.

1:08:00 This is our bath salts meme coming back. And synthetic cannabinoids sold as spice or K2. And this of course ultimately creates criminal organizations. So we got a crackdown on the spice and K2 and on the bath salts. So we're going to maximize federal support drug law enforcement task forces. Let me just scroll down here for a second. We're going to improve intelligence and exchange and information sharing with these so-called fusion centers. This is very scary, these fusion centers that are popping up everywhere. And here's what's interesting. As a part of this, we're going to develop a national plan for southbound interdiction of currency and weapons. Now I had to let that sink in.

1:08:53 Because it says here, to enhance efforts to combat bulk cash smuggling, i.e. money going out of the country southbound, ICE has expanded its operations at the Bulk Cash Smuggling Center in 2011. which is an investigative support and operations center designed to assist ICE and its international domestic law enforcement partners with the investigation, seizure, forfeiture, and arrest of subjects involved in transnational crimes that are facilitated by the movement of illicit proceeds through bulk cash smuggling. I.e. keep the money here you slaves, don't let it leave the country. And then finally,

1:09:35 Well, there's something about eradicating marijuana cultivation, which basically is all about California. But here is the counter domestic methamphetamine production. By the way, if they get that program underway and they start eradicating marijuana cultivation, which is mostly in Mendocino County, I might add, if they want to know where to go. and they start busting, burning these places to the ground and getting rid of all that stuff. You can then, these idiots who are growing this stuff and voted against legalizing marijuana in the state of California and promoted not having marijuana legalized, medical marijuana, because they were making so much money in the black market. They deserve what happens. They brought it on themselves. It's Calusa, Glenn,

1:10:24 Lake Mendocino to Hama and Trinity to be exact. It's listed in there. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, you're right John. I always know that you know, what's up when it comes to weed So here here's an interesting in Berkeley, so I guess it has something to do with it But of course meth meth is a big deal because you know You can have a meth lab in your pants as we learned on the previous episode. Yeah, you can have in a coke bottle. Yep. Oh Counter domestic methamphetamine production. How are we going to do this? The danger posed by the smaller labs remains significant. I guess that's the one in your pants. Several options are being considered to further reduce methamphetamine production, including prescription only status for pseudo-dephredrine and ephedrine products. In other words, you will now have to get a prescription for NyQuil. Another healthcare bonanza, I tell ya.

1:11:22 But here's a word that I hadn't heard of. Improved restrictions that are designed to eliminate smurfing would decrease the number of methamphetamine laboratories and the corresponding dangers they pose. Had you ever heard of smurfing? You know, I have, but I can't for the life of me know what I can't remember what it is. From the Urban Dictionary in relation to meth, smurfing is a term that is used to to describe a person or group of people that go from one store to another in order to gain enough. Right. One bottle of pills. Exactly. Interestingly, the term smurfing actually comes from the banking world. Smurfing, as it relates to banking, was coined to describe a process in which a bank would break up huge financial transactions into smaller ones in order to avoid tipping off the government or raising any red flags. I thought that was kind of interesting that we have the word smurfing used in there. So as I go through this entire thing,

1:12:25 It seems to be a war against bath salts. It seems to be a war against NyQuil. It seems to be encouraging poor people to smoke more crack because you know, you're not going to go to jail now. And it seems to not only encourage but codify into law The process, because you know whenever you go to a doctor, you write down, do you take any drugs like cocaine, marijuana, etc. Of course you always say no, no, no I don't do that. It doesn't matter because he's going to screen you now and it's going to be a part of your health care package and it will be mandatory and then you're going to get an intervention. So you're going to be there and the doctor is going to close the door and it's going to lock.

1:13:12 And he's gonna bring in your friends and your parents and they're gonna do big pain in the ass and they gotta get all he's gonna really bring in as a bookkeeper so they can keep track of all the money they're gonna soak you for it. Because they'll have codes for it. Yeah, there's some and by the way, all this is marked up in a PDF file for you under clips and stuff in the show notes at 405 dot na show notes dot com. Just so you know, you're going to get mandatory drug screening and intervention. And but it doesn't matter because as long as you stay under the 28 grams of crack, you're good to go. Great. That that to me spells 21st century solution, John, right there.

1:13:56 Yeah, definitely. So yeah, it's just time marches on, what can I say? And well, on the topic of, I don't want to say drugs, medicals, World of medicine I have a clip which it did tell me if you can see what the Why I clipped this show from this is a new HBO show called girls Oh God Mickey watches that she forces me to watch. It's terrible, but did you catch this one good afternoon courtlord gallery? Hey, it's me. Hi you how are you? I got a call from the doctor with my results. Yeah, and do you it was

1:14:40 It would appear that I do, yes, have something. Oh my god. What? I kind of can't believe that I'm saying this but I have HPV so... Marnie? Yeah? Are you crying? It was just so unfair, Hannah. Like you're so careful about sex and everything and you're like nervous. I just figured that like for people that are really really scared of flying their planes never go down. It's just not how it works. Oh my god. What if you can't have children? Marty, I'm fine, okay? I'm fine. Fucking Adam. He didn't give it to me, okay? He got tested and he doesn't have it. I think it was Elijah. So this is very interesting. Hold on a second, did you catch the second meme in there that was subtle? Yeah, about the... he got tested. No. It wasn't Adam. Think of Adam in the Bible. It was Elijah, a dirty Jew. Well...

1:15:42 Let me expand on that. I'm glad you got this because I was very tired when this was on and I remember Mickey and I looking at each other going like, oh my God, really? Are they promoting this? But they took it one step further. So they explained the entire process of testing that boys cannot get tested for this, but even better, the dirty Jew Elijah, as you point out, turns out he's gay. And he's always been gay and he was even thinking of having sex with men when he was having sex with her. So as this story unfolds, I guarantee you he is going to have to get tested so he doesn't get throat cancer. And I know this because I have developed a relationship

1:16:22 with several doctors ever since we started on this HPV testing thing that I started uncovering by the way thank you our son omics for creating an awesome YouTube video which is for our world has gone viral like 98 people that's very viral for us and I've gotten you know I've got his fighting it we're fighting I've got the man Screwing the man. But I've gotten emails from people from like sanevax.org and they go, you should interview me on your show. I don't even answer the emails. These are all, they're all crazy themselves. But I have developed a relationship with two doctors and one of them I'm calling Dr. Deep Throat.

1:17:07 And Dr. Deep Throat has, he's getting me all the information, he's giving me all the information and even some documentation. Because what I want to know is, Is there an actual script? Is there a scam to the HPV testing process? And just to review quickly, and this was also on the HBO show, you go in for your annual or in some cases it's every two years, you go in for your test, your pap smear, I like to say schmear, your pap smear, you get a call that says, well, it was inconclusive And that means you could be pre-cancerous. This, by the way, huge red flag with all these doctors. They're like the word pre-cancerous, which came back in this show. They talked about it. She actually said that she said pre-cancer is not a medical term. If someone says to you pre-cancerous, you can say you're full of crap. That does not exist. It is not a medical term.

1:18:04 So then you have to come back, you do a very uncomfortable biopsy, you're freaking out, and then exactly what's happening here, because it's an STD, you only get it through having sex with someone, and men carry this around forever, and you're like, oh, did my husband cheat on me? What went on? And then it turns out that you don't have it, and that's when the sales pitch occurs and the doctor says, you should get the HPV shot. So here's what Dr. Deep Throat tells me. He says these machines, remember Hologic is now teamed up with Merck who makes Gardasil the vaccine. He says the machines have a very high rate of false positives by design.

1:18:49 He says these machines are highly regulated by both state and federal government. Those entities, I'm reading verbatim, tend to lead towards false positives because it lends to a lower rate of malpractice suits. So he says the whole thing is systemic. So they're meant to Throw a huge number of false positives because not only are they worried about malpractice lawsuits Which is probably at the top of the list But the minute that happens boom you go from 70 bucks to 700 bucks to 800 bucks for the HPV shot and and of course the The medical practitioner walks along in the profit process as dr. Deepthroat says

1:19:38 Unfortunately, these false positives lead to a number of problems. Although a lot of the physicians are genuinely good people with the best patient care in mind, which I believe, they are limited by the test results given them. The insurance industry dictates a minimum level of certainty before a treatment is dictated and covered. And depending on the lobbying abilities of the industry, that certainly is thus defined typically by the state's board of health. It's a nasty cycle is getting worse as drugs become tailored to genetics and eventually Individuals it will only become more corrupt in short answer. He says again. It's rigged by design He is getting me the statistics on the amount of false positives. He also points out that only 10% of the positives for HPV actually turn out to have HPV and

1:20:27 which I thought was a very, very low number considering all of the hysteria. So Not necessarily it's even worse than we thought you know I wish I had someone who said yeah I got this script from the guy who sold the machine to me and here's how it works It's even worse. They're designed to produce false positives And that's why Gardasil made by Merck who makes Gardasil and Hologic who makes the new high throughput test lots of women over time are in cahoots with each other and

1:21:02 The whole thing is completely rigged. Unfortunately, and this is the only thing that really bothers me, is that the medical profession, the bad actors, the greedy ones, are misusing this and terrorizing women. Here's one note from Ben. Because I they keep on streaming in people who see the same thing happening over and over again My wife's experience was a little different. She had a checkup was fine, but was still recommended to get the HPV shot She explained she was married and not worried and the doctor said well you never know men aren't faithful. You should protect yourself Wow what a great guy that doctor is isn't it isn't outrageous I

1:21:51 Unbelievable. She should have slapped him. So we'll see, we'll see the, um, now of course, uh, this HBO series is very interesting. I'm glad you reminded me of it. Uh, cause I want to see how this unfolds with the gay guy. If, uh, What a good catch by the way, the Adam and Elijah bit. Let's see if the gay guy now is worried and if he's gonna get the HPV shot because he can't get tested but he'll get the shot. Yeah. So you know we don't know who's paying for these programs but you can bet there's something going on. Yeah it's essentially corruption, systemic corruption within the medical industry.

1:22:36 Thanks to the insurance companies. There's every whole thing. I mean, this is Obamacare. It's just pushing. You know, people keep saying well Obamacare people aren't gonna get it. It's all about insurance. If they would go to single-payer government-controlled, I mean even though I know every right-winger out there thinks it's terrible, it's socialized medicine, it's no good, look how bad it works in England and all the rest of it. It would at least get these insurance companies out. Yeah, we could deal with it later. You are we were the Americans we can fix these things we can make these things work So you but right now it's this is going in the wrong direction and it's creating a can you do that again? We're Americans. We can make things work. That was really good do that again Where are you man with your American speech? We're Americans and we can make things work Beautiful. Yeah, okay. That's what you're passing on to your kids not HPV. I

1:23:46 You are passing on humongous cost. Oh, I'm sorry, Dr. Deepthroat just emailed me. Only 10% turn out to be cancer. It's even worse. I thought it was HPV. He says only 10% turn out to be cancer. You could have HPV but not the cancer kind. You could just have the human papillomavirus Which will go away, your body actually fixes that. Yeah, it's just like herpes. No, herpes doesn't necessarily go away. Oh, well, that's true, herpes doesn't go away. Thank you, Dr. Deep Throat. I love Dr. Deep Throat. Open wide. Well, apparently. Open wide. So that is how it rolls, everybody.

1:24:28 I got a lot of, you know, I am humbled by the people that listen to our show and quite honestly it scares me at the same time. Well actually a lot of them managed to correct us properly. But it scares me that these smart people are listening to the show. Are they really that smart? Well they like the entertainment value of the show I think a lot. They like the body bomb stories. That's where they're tuning in. Hey man let me hear that one again. That was good. So talking about news media being base on stuff. So I'm watching the the follow-up press conference on the Murdoch hearings in London. Yeah. And they had this one woman. Should I play the verdict? I have the verdict clip and then you can do the... Yeah, play the verdict clip and then we'll play something from Louise. Here is the verdict.

1:25:24 In the view of the majority of committee members, Rupert Murdoch is not fit to run an international company like BSkyB. I'm personally disappointed that some members didn't feel sufficiently convinced or confident to hold the most powerful to account. They felt they couldn't support sections 216 to 229 of the report. I'd like to point out before you continue that in the UK if you say someone is fit That usually means they're hot looking and and with that I agree Rupert Murdoch is not a good-looking guy Oh, that is a he is not fit at all

1:26:03 So, this got picked up, what you just played, got picked up by the national media. Oh, Murdoch, Murdoch, Murdoch, he's not fit, he's not fit, he's not fit. And so Louise Mensch, who is the blonde on the committee that you've commented on before. She's not very hot. No, she's not unattractive. But she's a conservative and she explains this and I've never heard this before, the rationale for why she's one of the people that voted against the final conclusion because of the Murdoch thing. And she explains it here. Even in a report as partisan and down political lines as this one was voted on.

1:26:44 No member of the committee could find it in their hearts to say that either James or Rupert Murdoch had misled the committee. Nobody. Even in the report as it's published. Therefore, it did appear to us that something negative had to be found to say about Rupert Murdoch since nobody was going to conclude that either he or his son had misled our committee. And therefore this line about Rupert Murdoch not being a fit person which echoes Ofcom's fit and proper test was stuck in on the basis of no evidence presented to the committee whatsoever and we just could not support it. As I say, even though many many votes went against my point of view on James Murdoch and on the corporate culture at News Corporation, I would definitely have voted for the report had that language not been placed in it. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it was just bullcrap. Well this is a blackmail scandal, that's what this is. They're blackmailing Rupert Murdoch

1:27:38 We know that, and I think a lot of this is coming, of course, from the government in the Gitmo Nation East. But I would wager that the Obama administration wants Murdoch on board. And again, you know, I've now started watching Fox News because they've already, CNN is no good. It's just... They got rid of Napolitano. That guy's in trouble. Yep. Big trouble. They let him do walk-ons now. And I think it's blackmail. It certainly can be used for blackmail. Well, there were a couple of interesting other little side bits. Yeah, it could. And I think we'll see how this goes as the election gets closer. But there was also this, apparently they're going to, they don't know what to do about this because it hasn't come up since the 1950s where a bunch of people, not Murdoch and his son, were accused of misleading Parliament by essentially lying to these committees.

1:28:34 And I thought that was kind of interesting and this guy discusses a little bit in this clip. The purpose of the motion before the House will be to decide whether people are guilty of contempt of Parliament. Now we're all aggrieved on that and that is the substance of the report. It's what we were investigating. It's the first time it's been done since the 1950s. And we've spent a long time talking about something which isn't even included in the next steps of the report because it is tangential to it, although obviously a subject of interest. I would point out that Mr Colin Myler is the editor of the New York Daily News and we have just found that he has misled a select committee of Parliament.

1:29:14 I would hope that a little bit of attention would be paid to the unanimous findings of the committee where named individuals misled Parliament. And furthermore, to answer the very good question posed by Lucy Manning, which is if somebody comes in front of Parliament and lies to it, what happens next? Off with their heads! We don't necessarily have the procedures in place and we will therefore be referring it to Parliament to find out what to do. But serious conclusions have been drawn about people misleading Parliament on which we're all united. There is a lot in this report on which the committee completely agrees and you know that's the shame that we weren't able to agree on the report itself because of the line about Rupert Murdoch. Cut off his goolies I tell you. You lied in front of Parliament. Remove your testicles right away.

1:30:06 Love it. They're at their wits end about what to do about it. They don't know. Apparently there's no procedure because nobody ever does this. No one ever lies. This is crazy. How can you lie in front of Parliament? So the editor of the New York Daily News is one of the guys who was the editor of the News of the World and he scampers off the United States as quick as he can. Morton Zuckerman, I guess the guy who's the publisher, who's always on that show with The McLaughlin report. He's the Mort guy. He's the publisher of the New York Daily News and he hired this guy, fired the other guy and put this guy in as part of some larger scheme. And it's just the whole thing is just rotten.

1:30:49 Yeah, you know no wonder I mean this is I'm feeling good. You know because I I see real journalism going on I consider We may not be right, but we've got experts we consult experts You know we keep them just as anonymous as real journalists, and we read through stuff. You know we look at stuff We dice this is journalism, and it's happening TN is dead because of the alternative media it really is they just they went way to by the way interestingly enough their profits are huge and CNN? Yeah! They had like 600 million in profit. Yeah, I don't understand how that works. Well, that's what they do. You sell out, you put that Hollywood, HLN, Hollywood news, that work, you put a bunch of extra, extra, extra kind of shows on and you have Piers Morgan doing softball interviews with everybody he can. But the ratings aren't there. If you can understand the word he says. But I mean, they must be charging an enormous CPM because their ratings are so poor. I mean, how are they making that much dough? Maybe it's just payoffs.

1:31:50 I don't understand. Oh John! Bend over here comes a sign! The War of Chicken Yes, identified by John C. Dvorak very early on in the game, the war on chicken continues. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a huge war on against chicken. And here is report number one. Breaking news this afternoon, a massive fire destroying several barns at a Weld County poultry farm. Sky Fox live over the scene near Roggen where a massive plume of smoke can be seen for miles. That's right.

1:32:28 500,000 chickens killed in fire! I'm telling you those PETA people are crazy. And now we have one from NPR, which we have a new jingle for. Sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want. We've been on to money. Here's a report from NPR. Also, enemy combatants in the war on chicken. Americans are now eating more chicken than beef or pork. And meeting that demand is an industry that some have dubbed Big Chicken. Texas is a major player in the industry and so now Texas must manage a problem that in other circumstances we might describe as fallout.

1:33:14 or blow back. They're using actual military war terms in the war on chicken, John. It's getting really... That's what it makes sense. It's heating up. KUHF in Houston explains what that problem is. Dan Franks has a beautiful view from his home 40 miles east of Waco. A pond, a pasture, wildflowers in full bloom. but just barely visible off in the distance. We're about a half a mile from the chicken houses. Is what Franks calls an agri-factory. As in agriculture. There are more than a million chickens over there. I was in town, you know, and everybody was asking what stinks and it's the chicken houses. Ah, that's the problem! They stink! They stink, I tell ya! That's right, ladies and gentlemen, another episode of... The War on Chicken.

1:34:09 There you go. Wrapping it up nicely. Yeah. I like the NPR jingle. That's pretty cool. The new NPR jingle. Yeah, it's good. I like the way you did the donate with the thing in and out. It's good. Let's take a little break here. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, there's chicken stinks, but our donors don't know and we have quite a few we want to mention We do have a special Sanko de Mayo coming up on Saturday recommending people donate 5512 which would be five five twelve over

1:34:52 Tomorrow would be the best day to do it than to be riding the money, but it's also it's also one day before the demise of Europe because we have elections in Greece in France and One other one. I think yeah, it's gonna be freedom. I'm gonna be a great Cinco de Mayo Yeah, it is. And which is, you know, might as well have something going on because the phony baloney holiday if ever there was. It's only one town in Mexico even celebrates it. Really? Really? I didn't know that. Look it up. They don't even celebrate it? No, it's not a Mexican holiday. It's an American, you know, Americans picked it up. Oh man. Just because they're looking for another excuse to party.

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1:38:38 Baltimore, Maryland. Guys, 7777, thanks for the great show. Keep up the good work. I need some gambling karma, some slide whistle to make sure it really works. All right, I'll hit the karma, you do the slide. You've got karma. Michael O'Grady, Augusta, Georgia 5555. You missed Christopher. Oh yeah, sorry we got two. Wow this is the only one it we just barely snuck through. Christopher Yagi, Ottawa, Ontario 6969 and that is our only 6969. No, oh it is you're right. We almost broke the spell. Yeah almost. Gerald Gionnet in London, Ontario 6666.

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1:40:12 Anyway, Adam, your evocation of Jim Croce and Prince on the Daily Source Code has left me deeply touched. I thank you for the experience. I cannot wait for another Drunken DSC sans the audible mic curating. What the who? That's peeing. Oh, I peed. You were peeing on the show? Yeah, I took the mobile mic outside and peed against the garage. It was a sound peeing tour. That's entertainment ladies and gentlemen. Hey, I'm not knocking our double nickels on the double nickels. Reverend O'Grady. Joseph Esposito, Sergio the Dish Slave in Stockton 5512 wishing us a happy Sanco.

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1:41:37 Glenn Woodfin, he did a great job. G-L-E-N-W-O-O-D-F-I-N. He's got a great thumbs up for you guys, but I wanted to make sure his name got mentioned. He did also get me hooked up on Noah. He hooked on Noah Jenna. He could use some karma for more paid gigs. Well, this is the guy if you want to own the first eight pages of Google. This is definitely the nine. No conflict! You've got karma. J.B.'s in Louisville, Kentucky. I was decided the portion of my annual Kentucky Derby bet was better serve feeding value for values a longtime boner first-time donor along with this obligatory D douching can I get an L sharped in conflict bite thought we all know we can dig that up that fast followed with some synthesis lighter love so he needs a D douching and if you get that I don't I don't think I have the content one is not the ready it's not when we normally use let me just see

1:42:34 No, I don't. I'm sorry. And I don't have the synthesizer slider hooked up either. Give him a de-douching and a karma. De-douching and a karma. You got it. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Steve Bottoms in Reno, Nevada. 5512 as is Ken Rourke, who's going to be a knight I think. Yep. He reached knighthood in the last donation. He's got a big hand apparently. He's got a huge ring size. Sir Greg Laudrup in North Hills, California. Gracious, he says. Maxell Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana. Happy Sancto Domingo. Take a shot of karma for myself. You've got karma.

1:43:23 Matt Litke in Timley Park, Illinois. I listened to when you only had one show a week. I would like some new job karma and a birthday mention. We got you on the birthday list. My and his birthday is Sanco de Mayo. That's interesting. And do I have a taco recipe? I do. But you're not we're not giving it to you. I'm going to put it. People want these recipes in the news hooked to the newsletter. So I'm going to do a little site with some with maybe every few newsletters. I'll do a a cool recipe that I think is... Love it. Yeah, I'd love it. I'd love to have some cool recipes. They're really good. Walter Nicholson in Shreveport, Louisiana. Robert Weber in Lake Forest, California. Thanking us for the show. Ian Gilman, Rockford, Illinois.

1:44:04 Don't jingle me bro, I don't require any jingles for this donation. Donate any jingles you would normally have played to charity. Sir Michael Miller in Tiburon, Sanco de Mayo, Darren Porter, Rockville, Indiana, Sam Leung in Toronto, Ontario. Leung is my Sanco de Mayo donation to the best podcast in the universe and also celebrate my birthday. We've got him on the list in the calculations. He's also a Black Knight. And so we'll give him that and not getting laid karma for me. He needs some not getting laid... Wait. I think he wants to... Oh yeah, and some not getting laid karma for me to keep focused on assassinating the media. Oh, he doesn't want to get laid. Okay. Sure, dude.

1:44:50 You've got karma. I want to check and see if you got a penis. Sir Dave probably does, a big one. Sir David C. Pugh, North Canton, Ohio in the morning. Gregory Shun, Jr., Green Bay, Wisconsin. Also double nickels on that. And then $55 from Kyle McQuestion in McKeston in Pickering, Ontario. Take a week for the money to go through. Can I please get a douche bag from my father? Oh, what ha- hey. DOOSH BAE! Oh, ooh. We've fallen asleep. No, it didn't- it did- I fired it, but it didn't go. DOOSH BAE! Yeah, who poured my- you might as well get it ready for another one. Who poured Monsanto's poison on the weeds. Oh no! And herbs growing in my vegetable garden because he's incredibly inconsiderate. Can I also get a karma from my garden because it would need all the help it can get? Kills the garden. You've got karma.

1:45:41 Yeah, Abraham Daly Gorham Maine 54 46 First-time donor 54 46 is a reference to toots in the Maytel song, huh? I know I'm not the first one to donate this amount not sure if this is where I need to leave my message apparently it is been listening since I first bought a used iPod for 25 bucks in 2008 got into twit, learned about no agenda, it goes on and on. The past year I got a graduate assistant position at my school so now I have some cash on hand but still remain the douchebag, started relisting the ODSC, I liked a lot, tonight I've been drinking beer with the local Sibago Brewery and he's a long time douchebag, doesn't deserve any karma, so pass any karma on to Ron Paul. Alright, let's give it to Ronnie Boy then. You've got karma.

1:46:35 I want to send a birthday shout out to Jim Mann, the considerate hubby who turned me on to this show way back when you thought you had fewer than 15 female listeners. But what to get the man who has everything? Oh, good question. Why? Because the continuation of the best podcast in the universe, of course. Ladies, aren't you happiest when your man is happy? The formula is this. He supports the show. He's entertained and educated on his long commute, so he's unconcerned by the lamestream media. He looks cool and collected while everyone else is freaking out. The boss starts noticing how often he pegs the global trends, so he gets a promotion. With a new promotion comes a gob of money, so he takes you on vacation.

1:47:20 Not only should you cheerfully cheerily support his wish to donate you should tell him it's his duty to the well-being of his sweetie pie That's one of the best sales pitches I've ever we're gonna put that sales pitch on the newsletter. That's a good one It's a good one. Just send it out to the ladies all the ladies in that by the way We got an email from Sarah who was a producer on episode 3 3 3 yeah with a picture and You saw the picture didn't you? Oh yeah, yeah, Sarah. Whoa! Hotness! She was showing off. She's hot. Come on, she's a super smoker. Oh yeah, she's gorgeous. Yeah. Luke Rayner, London. London. I guess London, UK because he gave us 33, 33 pounds which converts to 52, 31.

1:48:08 I love the show, it's become an even more valuable source of news to me since I am currently taking a year-long sabbatical from my job feeding young human resources delusions of grandeur, college music teacher. I no longer have the 45-minute morning commute in which I listen to shows to Radio Forest today's show. I feel so much better for not hearing the brainwashing yet soothing tones of John Humphreys. And I get a shot of karma for my AdSense site business. Future project in mind, keeping an AdSense site where profits will go to no agenda. That sounds good. He needs a karma shot. You've got karma.

1:48:47 Jeffrey Anderson in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 5115 says the last show was great it and did not suck you guys always do a great job no matter what the donation show I'm giving value for value to a palindromic tune 5115 I was greedy and selfish and asking to get laid karma I'd rather do this and I'd rather ask for regular karma to meet a nice girl worthy of marrying that's the right way to do things keeping with the theme of Adams DSC I give out a good quote from the comedic genius who is no longer with us a legend if one of you can guess without consulting the book of knowledge I'll send over a bonus 33 33 oh yes it is obvious to my trained eye that there's much more going on here than meets the ear George Carlin

1:49:25 Probably. Sean Pyle, Streamwood, Illinois, 5101. Last few shows you mentioned donations are down and you've run a very lengthy and detailed scientific analysis. I think my algorithm has identified the cause of this anomaly. Donations equals down. Why? Because two words, slide whistle. As a long-time listener, I've always cringed when I heard it. In recent months, it's always been more like the John C. Dvorak slide whistle show. then no agenda and now there's two of them! As an experiment, go two weeks with no slide whistle. I have a suspicion donations will go up inversely with decreased slide whistle. I suspect only people that like the slide whistle are the same people that purchase Zamphere CDs from 3am infomercials. What do you say? Do you think we can abstain for two weeks? I'll think about it.

1:50:20 I think it adds a dimension to the show that no other show has. I agree. So anyway, we have a number of $50 donations including Alan Levine for congress.com which is A-L-L-A-N-L-E-V-E-N. We want him in. I'm confused. He keeps sending us notes that it's not working. That he keeps donating. That his donations to the show are not creating karma or whatever for him. He keeps sending long notes. You read the notes? Send him some karma right now. Yeah, alright. And go and vote for this guy. Sounds good. You've got to be in Georgia. I don't know how many listeners we have in Georgia We got listeners in Georgia for sure we do a LL a n le V e n e Sir Christopher lot and Dartmouth, Massachusetts

1:51:07 50. Andrew Heverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario. 50. Alan Martin in no place, parts unknown. Greg Brunstle, Kenosha, Wisconsin. He's gonna become a knight, he's $50 in. Jeffrey Moldner in Omaha, Nebraska. 50. Vicky Bryden in Monmouth, Maine says, my husband and I both love the show, please keep up the good work. We are first time donors and would like a de-douching with some karma. And more slide whistle from both John and Adam. Oh! And more foodie stuff from John, she says. Wow, alright, well this is rocking. You've been D-douched. You've got karma.

1:51:51 Robert Dearden, he's got a black knight Robert in Hoboken, New Jersey, also 59. Here's what we're gonna do. We are going to, I'm gonna create, this won't happen right away, but I'm gonna create a like a, because people donate at different amounts. We'll have like two donation special voting donations where people will vote with their money, literally. And so if they vote, if they select one, it'd be similar amounts, like a small amount, just so we can count votes. small amount and then if they'll be like six and five or ten and eleven something like that and then we'll add the votes up after like a month of this and then we'll decide that will kill the slide whistle if and No, you know you can vote as many times as you want But we will notice this if it's all the one same guy. You know then we'll think twice about it Wow John what a spectacular promotion yeah, yeah great dude says Richard Terry

1:52:44 Drive firing a gun can damage it and you know a lot of people say that there's a lot that's it's controversial as does it really? He says just because it's rare to break doesn't mean it won't where I used to sell guns We would refuse to even show someone a firearm if they drive fire without a snap cap plus. It's bad safety practice I know too many people who accidentally shot someone while thinking it was unloaded and Well, that's a problem. That's true. That's true. That's true. All right. Well, thank you all very much because of our Cinco de Mayo celebrations rather long. But there's plenty more value for value where all that came from. And I do have a very quick 2009 update. We seem to have a little problem. Brandon, who I'm hoping can become Baron Von Brandon of the great state of Texas, is concerned that Mustang Sally won't be able to pull his trailer.

1:53:37 Yes. A lot of people have this concern. Did you do some look? Did you look it up? It's in the book. Well, here's the problem because, yeah, I have the Dodge Ram 1500, but it's the big block and all the specs that I see everywhere has it with the smaller block. And I think that, anyway, we're going to test it out when he comes back. But he says test it. What testing is we're going to flat areas of Texas and like I mean, it's going up to Rocky's. We have a hill here. Quite a hill. Oh, you have a hill. Quite a hill. Yes. He says ideally use that have dodged twenty five hundred thirty five hundred Ford F two fifty F three fifty. I mean, I don't have any of this. I got the fifteen hundred sport, which is has the short bed, has back seats. So it has the dual, you know, the the dual cab.

1:54:25 But it has the big block. But people say, now you can burn out your transmission, your brakes. I'm getting worried about this. Yeah, it's got nothing to do with the engine if the transmission can't deal with it. Hmm. How do I know if the transmission can deal with it? Well, you could always just see what happened to find out the thing and then you have to get a new transmission. Apparently we're going to find out. There's got to be some documentation on this. I'm not buying the fact that there's no documentation that could say yes, you can pull that trailer. Well, there's numbers and the numbers say that even a 1500 small block should technically be able to pull it but not you wouldn't go up the hill because we're going to go through the Rockies now.

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1:57:42 Let's see. Well I do have a fun clip. Oh okay I got some. It's a long clip you can cut it here and there but it's probably worth listening to most of it. Okay. This is a clip I found, a little background. John Walker is a very interesting person. I love his whiskey. No this is the John Walker that founded Autodesk. Oh, what is Autodesk? Is that a CAD system? Yeah, it is the CAD system. Okay. Computer-Aided Design. So he's worth, I estimate, is worth it about $300 million maybe. Okay. And on either side of it. And he renounced his US citizenship some years ago and kind of shook his fist at the country and left and moved to Switzerland. Right.

1:58:33 some place in Switzerland. He's a very conservative investor and his money is managed by Goldman Sachs. And so, and by the way, did you say when he left the country he had, he apparently did a bumper sticker, although I've never verified this with him, I've only communicated with him a few times. that said when Russia, when communist Russia fell it was like he said the evil and one evil Empire down one to go. Okay. Russian flag and American flag so he's got the issues with the American government. So he had a meeting with Goldman Sachs that he recorded and then published on his website. Oh!

1:59:14 Which is called Formy Labs, it's like Fermilabs only spelled F-O-U-R-M-I-L-A-B-S dot C-H. And he has all kinds of crazy stuff on that website that's very entertaining and very interesting and he likes to write book reviews and he's got some... It's what rich guys do. Or really poor guys like us who had nothing better to do. Yeah, well he's got more time on his hand maybe. Whatever the case is, he apparently had been doing business with Goldman Sachs since 86 and he was irked with them because they started soliciting him because he has no, he doesn't, all he invests is uses Swiss francs and he invests in sovereign debt of the most secure countries of the world. Like Greece? That's all he wants to do. His whole goal

1:59:59 Sorry? Like Greece and Spain and the Netherlands? No, he doesn't do that. His goal is to not lose a nickel. He says he's got plenty of money, he feels a lot of people invest, they make a bunch of money, then they blow it. And so his approach is just the opposite. So the Goldman Sachs guys kept firing his broker, you know, his various brokers. They have a broker for you, they fire him. The brokers got back to Walker that they were firing him because they weren't selling him this junk. They weren't gouging him enough. They weren't gouging him enough, right?

2:00:35 So they re-org the whole Goldman Sachs Swiss operation and brought in a, I can't describe him as anything other than a douchebag. The guy shows up at Walker's house with his assistant and they try to sell him on different things and try to make him feel better because I guess he was going to walk with his funds. Well how many millions he's got with him I don't know. He was just gonna leave them to tell Goldman to screw it. And by the way, and he mentions in his blog that two weeks after this interview, which this conversation, which was recorded with their knowledge, because the recorder was right in the middle of the table, he quit them anyway, because he just was not convinced these guys were looking out. They wouldn't follow his simple instructions. But I only took a small snippet, but you can imagine, this went on for, this is an hour.

2:01:25 But I will post it on the website eventually I'll put on my blog but this is a small snippet that is hilarious. Incorrect and it's a speed that you have received from people that have you know ulterior motives. Yes and they have decided to progress their career and their and their and their or we decided that. Oh by the way stop stop stop. The guy uses this term, this is the guy from Goldman Sachs, the fired guys were progressing their career. I've never heard this term before. He decided to progress his career or we've decided to progress his career. I like that. I've been career progressed many times. Yeah, I'll bet. One of the reasons why we have decided that they should progress their career somewhere else is because they were telling things like that.

2:02:12 So it is not true that you have given call sheets for specific products to your customer representatives in which they have to confirm that they called and pitched that product to their client. That's not true. That's never happened to me. I've been here for five years. That's not the question. it doesn't have any it does happen that we have a problem which is that we have and that we have to fight clients that might be interested as products and that part of the responsibility of the sales force is where applicable and where suitable and where appropriate to contact clients to market those products absolutely but in situations where we have a discretionary relationship and where especially where we have guidelines of restriction from clients in doing something that's completely different and has nothing to do with that and so why is it then that when I have

2:02:56 a discretionary agreement which is strictly limited in its guidelines, I received by email a pitch for the Facebook deal which said that if I disclosed it I would be subject to criminal penalties in the United States of America. That's the most outrageous thing I have ever received in my entire life. I would have sent it to the Financial Times, except I went to their website and it was already there. That was an outrage. Well, why did I receive that? I've been in this meeting. Oops. Well, you know, the fact that... No, I don't know. I asked you, why did I receive that? Yes, yes, there is a question. This is obviously a deal that we have facilitated and a deal that we have promoted to some of our clients, right? It is part of the discretion of our investment professional

2:03:51 to present and propose investment opportunities to clients, right? And you know, one of the things that we ask our investment professionals to exercise their judgment is to what clients is suitable or appropriate to present those type of offers and to what clients is not appropriate or suitable to present those offers. So it was full discretion to present that to me after we have had conversations in an interval of every six months over a period of two years in which he never raised anything like that to me before in which I made it perfectly clear that I am the most risk-averse investor you have ever met, that I have no interest in equities because a huge amount of my net worth is still in one NASDAQ stock, the company that I founded.

2:04:35 And suddenly it popped into his head to say, this is a guy I should pitch the Facebook deal. I'm actually very familiar with that situation. Let me address that. That's absolutely the case. And the reason is that I was part already at the time of the Facebook offering and responsible for this entity. And I can tell you that I didn't list it and I didn't provide any client list and I didn't have any conversation with suggesting that he should pitch that product to you. And I can tell you that in London, they would not know, frankly, who you are and what your accounting needs to involve. They don't know how to pitch it. That's even worse. By the way, we don't even give a crap who you are, man. We don't know in London. We don't give a shit about you. To that information. So, it was, I'm quite comfortable in saying that it was a product or an investment opportunity that we had and that probably

2:05:30 that and understood or fully grasped the extent to which you didn't want to be shown investment opportunity like that one. And in any case, this is a deal that we would have never booked or invested in on a discretionary basis in the context of the mandate that you had given us. So there are clients that appreciate to be shown opportunities or shown investment ideas, and there are clients that are not because they're not consistent with it. But in 25 years, nothing like that had ever happened before. Right. That was a long clip. So anyway, it was a long clip. But there's a funny thing. They start off with their sales force sales. They're talking about the sales guy, sales guys. And then they change it. They changed the term to investment professionals. Yes. Who is progressing his career. Profession investment professional. Anyway, the guy was.

2:06:20 The whole thing is an hour and it is just one of those meetings that you're just a fly on the wall and you just shake your head the whole time. It's just like these guys are trying to sell, sell, sell and he's not even remotely interested in anything they have to sell so he dumped them. Well this leads me nicely into the next segment which revolves around the presidential hopeful Congressman Ron Paul. who now that New Gingrich is officially out is the contender against Mitt Romney. And he's been doing some very interesting appearances of late, which I like very much. I think it's an interesting strategy. First it was CNBC, he was on The Morning Show as a guest host, and then he appeared on Bloomberg Television, which again has a rating of asterisk.

2:07:13 However, a lot of people do watch Bloomberg Television who are in the financial industry and who have access to cash and could possibly support him. I kind of like this is surely a Doug Weed strategy. Did you see this where it was Paul versus Paul? Did you see this particular item? No, I did not. Ron Paul versus Paul Krugman. Now, Paul Krugman is, I believe, a Nobel Prize winning economist who writes for the New York Times, correct? Yeah. And I think the guy always comes across as a dick. Yeah, he does. And so there was this Ted Attack. He didn't win a Nobel, he won a Pulitzer doing this.

2:07:53 Krugman? I thought he... I'm pretty sure... Wait, is it Paul Krugman? Let me look him up. We have to be accurate. We do it in real time everybody. We consult the book of knowledge. Oh, there he is. Yeah, I thought he was a Nobel prize-winning economist if I'm not mistaken. Yep, yep. Informally the... Oh, he won the... The Sveriges Riksbag prize in economic science is informally the Nobel Prize. Okay, so his credentials are even kind of lame-o. But he always comes across as a dick. I can't help it. He writes stuff, you know, I don't know. He looks like a douchebag. Yeah, he does. So, the douchebag beard.

2:08:38 So he's actually in studio which always gives an upper hand for so yeah, you're in the studio You got the upper hand, but this is a very interesting exchange I've cut it down into two pieces and I will and I'm gonna play this first piece and then I'm gonna ask you some questions about it because you of course have studied the Austrian economics which is Ron Paul subscribes to and then we will play clip 2 as It turns into a war on history. Well, there's certain things, you know, I You can't leave the government out of monetary policy. If you try to think, you know, we're just going to let it set itself, it doesn't happen. The government is actually always, the Federal Reserve, the Central Bank, is always going to be in the business of managing monetary policy. If you think that you can avoid that, you're living in the world as it was 150 years ago, right?

2:09:25 We have an economy in which money is not just green pieces of paper with faces of dead presidents on them. Money is the result of the financial system. It includes a variety of assets. We're not even quite sure where the line between money and non-money is. It's kind of a continuum. And look, history tells us that in fact a completely unmanaged economy is subject to extreme volatility, subject to extreme downturns. I know there's this legend that people like probably you, Congressman, have that the Great Depression was somehow caused by the government, caused by the Federal Reserve, but it's not true. The reality is that was a market economy run amok, which happens, happened repeatedly over the past

2:10:05 couple of centuries. You do need, you know, I'm actually, I'm a believer in the market economy. I'm a believer in capitalism. I want the market economy to be left as free as it can be, but there are limits. You do need the government to step in to stabilize. Depressions are a bad thing for capitalism and it's the role of the government to make sure that they don't happen or if they do happen that they don't last too long. So here, uh, Paul Krugman, the fake Nobel prize winner. Well, we, we have to remember right off the bat, he brings in a piece of questionable information that ruins the premise of whatever he's gonna say from then on. He says the Great Depression happened during the reign of the Federal Reserve, which is supposed to control things to the point where you don't have a Great Depression. So his logic is already askew.

2:10:59 Because the Federal Reserve was in full force during the Great Depression. They weren't doing anything to stop the Great Depression. No, they triggered it. So, well, that's arguable. I think it's a cycle, so nobody triggered it. But that's another debate. So he immediately is dealing with a false premise. And so the whole thing for me, at least right now, is completely off the tracks. Right off the bat. And he goes on to do two things. First, he says this is the role of government which I have not read in the Constitution. It's not supposed to be the role of our government. Would you agree? Yeah, I agree with that. And the second thing, which was annoying to me, is he pulls out a meme which has been used consistently against the congressman, the next president of the United States. He says, you want to take us back 100, 150 years. You want to turn back the clock. You're living 100 years ago, douche. This is something I've heard over and over again. Correct?

2:11:57 Yeah, and he said 150 which is funny since the Federal Reserve is only 100. Yeah, it's not even a hundred years old. But he does it for effect. It's a meme and they've been using it over and over again. Ron Paul, however, was prepared for this. Oh yeah? I'll take your hundred. And I'll do it times 10, bitch! Professor Krugman indicates that we just want to go back 100 years or so. That is not exactly true. We'd like to improve on what was like back then, but he wants to go back 1,000 years or 2,000 years, just as the Romans and the Greeks and all other countries debased their currency. They didn't have a computer. This idea that we need a Federal Reserve to run things, well, or a central bank, that's just a modern era. No one represented Paul. Can you clarify? What do you mean by go back a

2:13:00 thousand years is is is that fair could clear what it what it what it what did the romans do their currency uh... the the the benzene empire had a gold standard for a thousand years and i did quite well they didn't fight wars but the roman empire eventually destroyed their currency they put a wage in price controls before they diluted the metals they inflated they thought wealth could come by fooling the people Who would want today, if they had ten years to send their kid to college, would they put their money in gold coins or a treasury bill making one or two percent? Take that, you silly ass fake noble economist. I'll take your 100 years and make it a thousand years. I really like that. I thought that was a very good point. Yeah, it was good.

2:13:45 It was good good. The 40 people, yourself included, that watched it were probably impressed. And you know what Krugman's retort was? No, I know what it was. It was like, no I'm not and so are you or something like that. Very close to it. They can't keep up with the inflation or the devaluation of the currency. There'd be nothing there. Nobody puts their money in a two year bond. I am not a defender of the economic policies of the Emperor Diocletian. They should be playing that at rallies for Ron Paul.

2:14:44 They really really should know that was lame that oh, I you know he knew the diocletian Really that was I'll pour yeah cuz a douche. I mean he might as well. Just said whatever yeah I'm just saying dude. Hey Ron. I'm just saying whatever whatever Alright, two more little ditties I've got for you. We have to go a little bit longer, just a little bit because of the amount of donations, or at least until we're tired of each other, which is, that moment is coming. Happened. Yeah. So a lot of techno expert stuff going on at Gimmo Nation East in the United Kingdom as the Pirate Bay has now officially been blocked, or there's now a law that says ISPs

2:15:30 Internet service providers can no longer allow access to the Pirate Bay, which of course is laughable, like this is going to stop anything. And Virgin Media, of course, Richard Branson, little slut that he is, is right on board. They're the first ones to block it. And there was an interesting conversation on the Today Show, the Today program, I should say, in Gitmo Nation East. Let me just because they had on the guy who's in charge of the, what do you call it? The, the ISP alliance or whatever. And they had the member of parliament, the woman on, I can't find her name right now. Um, who, you know, essentially says we've got to block everything and we've got to stop all this. So it's about the pirate Bay, right? It's about the pirate Bay, but what does the conversation turn to within 30 seconds? Can you guess?

2:16:31 No. Oh yes you can. There's a variety of contents on the internet. There's music, there's films, there's millions of websites. And it's not for the ISPs to be the police of all that content out there. Why not? I mean you are making it possible for them to do something illegal whether we're talking about films or music or indeed pornography. Hardcore pornography. Why should you not put in place restrictions on those people? Who is this guy? He's the host of today's program.

2:17:17 Yeah, but he doesn't stop. Now it's all about porn of your own volition. We've worked in lots of places. If you look at what the internet industry has done over many, many years to protect children online, a lot of work has been done in setting up the Internet Watch Foundation, and that's to do with material that is child abuse material and clearly breaks the law. And any child can access pornography tomorrow or today in the next ten minutes at the drop of a hat. They know exactly what to do and how to do it if they can get it because you haven't blocked it. You haven't made it impossible for them to get it. Oh, won't somebody please the children? Final thought, sorry, Ronell. Do you accept that the whole, that the internet is changing?

2:17:57 Of course it's changing and it will continue to change and that's why the ISPs are being very receptive to having these conversations talking about what is the best way of dealing to protect children but at the same time to allow people to see content that they want to see that does not break the law. John, forgive me for interrupting, very quickly. I think the time is coming when the internet should not be treated differently from any other form of media. We don't accept it with any other media, with telly or mobile phones or anything else. Why should the internet be different? This is the guy should go on and say look here's the problem. You know, yeah, your company can block whatever it wants. I'm like the guy who sells ink to the printers. I got nothing to do with what they print with it. But it's even worse. The member of parliament said we need to treat it like any other media. Yeah, that's what I said. But the ISP is not the it's just a neutral. It's like the ink manufacturer. They got nothing to do with any of this. No, of course not. You can't look at all the content that's flying by. I mean, it's impossible. John, John, John.

2:18:58 I Didn't know you get it you you used it once it was beautiful Because you're like you're making our point for us again. We don't have to do that of course It's like ink for the printer, but the douchebags. They're considered to be media back. Who is this idiot? Yeah member of Parliament someone in the chat room will know oh just horrible people yeah what you give him a douchebag now you want to hear some real douchebaggery haven't you know entire months go by that I don't think of flipping to MTV for good reason because I'm from Jersey and Jersey Shore does not represent but there's a

2:19:52 There's a program on... I don't know if they do this on television or if they only do it on the website. It's called MTV's Rap Fix. Rap Fix. The Rap Fix. We're gonna fix it. And on this program, they had Killer Mike and Prodigy from Mobb Deep. You know those guys, right? Oh yeah, yeah we are. You're rocking their tunes. And the most insanely interesting conversation about Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. And we just got to listen to this because there are two points of view here. But the things that are being said are mind boggling. I mean, it's definitely a murder. You know, I mean, that do just right off the bat. It definitely murder. You know, that dude, that Zimmerman dude, definitely murder him in cold blood. Cold blood. He was out there.

2:20:47 Thinking whatever in his mind that who knows who's going through his mom. He was doing out there to do Zimmerman do Zimmerman a that do Zimmerman who by the way, that's racial at this point You don't say dude to black people, do you now? That's a white guy thing. You dude, a dude Zimmerman. This is so wrong. This is being fed to our children. I don't know what he thought he was doing, you know what I mean? But he murdered that kid for no reason. Because we had the court. He had murdered a kid for no reason. You know what I mean? And to me, it's up to the police department out there in Sanford to handle that the right way. They were supposed to arrest him. You know what I mean? Because that's the law in Florida.

2:21:28 is, you know, there's self-defense law in Florida, but you gotta prove it was self-defense in court. You can't just tell the police, oh, it was self-defense, and then you walk away, they don't arrest you. They supposed to arrest you, and then there's a trial, and you have to prove it was self-defense. The burden of proof is on the person that's claiming self-defense. Oh, this is new! The burden of proof is on the charged. This is being fed to our children, John, through popular rap music, the bad old rap music. And it gets better. I mean, doesn't that, you know, I don't know law. I didn't study law. So, uh, uh, now here's killer Mike killer. Mike is better. I like, no, it's not like that in the South. Georgia has the same law is one committee that writes these laws. And what they do is they, they, they target States where the gun lobby is strong and they know they can get it passed in Georgia. If you make me feel threatened, I can legally kill you.

2:22:24 uh... that the problem is these idiots who we have supposedly leaders of the black community they tell you to de-arm yourself when you should be arming yourself you live below the mason-dixon line gun laws allow for you to arm yourself you should be armed you know what i mean because you we live in a state where we are hunted oh god we live in a state in georgia where we are hunted really They're just hunted. It's just like a new game show. I'd leave the state of Georgia if I was being hunted constantly. I do agree though. He said, yeah, you should definitely be armed. Absolutely. That'll even everything out. That's like Texas. Everyone's armed. Everyone's polite. There's no problem going on. This is being broadcast to children. Oh.

2:23:12 I'm telling you, this is doomed. All we're doing is we're painting the end of times on this show. Painting the end of times. Well, if you're in Boston, next time you take the subway, the metro, you know what the Department of Homeland Security is planning on doing? In Boston at the metro? What the Department of Homeland Security has installed sensors in the MBTA system to detect biological agents And they've been testing to see how the air moves Now they want to release particles in the tunnels to see how well the sensors work

2:23:51 I wonder why they have to test it live like this. I don't know. Can they test it somewhere else? Not where there's actual people around. Federal officials tell us they plan to test the subway sensors by releasing a bacteria that they say is used in food supplements. They say it's been rigorously tested and has no adverse health effects for low exposure with healthy people. Is there any risk for us? You know, they say for healthy people, what if who are the majority of the riders on the subway too? So I'm so-so. I'm not too too worried about the test because they have really rigorous hoops they have to jump through, I'm sure. And I think I would trust those hoops personally. Trust the hoops!

2:24:37 Now federal officials tell me that they plan to release this bacteria during off-peak hours, probably overnight. Now they are inviting the public to give input. This is required by law. They've also set up a hearing so that people can come and ask questions and voice their opinions. That will be here in Cambridge on May 16th. And for more information on all of this, you can log on to our website. Yeah. Here's my input. Don't do it! This is a very bad idea. This has been done before. This was done in the, I think the 50s maybe in different parts of the country. They're always testing, you know, and people get sick because there's a bunch of people allergic to some of these things. It turns out to be a fiasco. Shall I tell you what the bacteria is? I'm looking for it now. What is it? B. Subtilis, as in Bacillus Subtilis.

2:25:26 Also known as the hay bacillus or grass bacillus a gram positive catalese positive bacteria commonly found in soil Unlike several other well-known species B. Subliss has historically been classified as an obligate aerobe and Apparently it will kill old people. Well, maybe that's what they're trying to do Well, usually this is a cover-up for just killing some of the old people in Boston. They're annoying Well, the thing is, it stays around. It reproduces for decades. It doesn't go away. Oh yeah, the whole subway system will stink. Does it have a smell? I'm sure. It starts reproducing and then it's kind of malforming into some sort of... and it rots when it dies like anything else. A dead bacteria smell.

2:26:19 It can remain viable for decades and is resistant to unfavorable environmental conditions. But that one woman says, oh, we can trust them. This is like that bonehead I had on the Cliff Show, but we hadn't before. It says with the list, this kid, oh, you know, what else can we do? Let him test this. Let him strip us at the airport. So I'm X-ray us. And so you guys better be safe than sorry. These kinds of people. Well, this also is a potential for a false flag. This happens very often when there's a test and we'll set up a drill and then all of a sudden, oh, it's real. Someone put a real, some real bad crap down there. That is possible. Don't know if it's going to happen, but it's possible. However, what we really need to be freaked out about is that the H5N1 paper is going to be published.

2:27:12 In fact, the headline from Time, another compromised news source, says, H5N1 paper published, deadly transmissible bird flu could be closer than thought. This is the scientist, one from University of Wisconsin and the Dutch scientist from Erasmus University in Rotterdam. They're going to publish the paper on how to make the bird flu, swine flu combo. Yeah, so we can kill everyone. So look for a lot of stories about dying of bird flu and probably ramping up some vaccines or something or doing something nice about that. What's interesting, and I'm following this not for this show, but the way that medical, the medical journal system is effed.

2:28:04 Do you know anything about this? How Elsevier, who publishes these, they charge universities for the publishing. Yeah. And then you had to get a subscription, which cost a fortune. You know what it cost to subscribe to Nature Magazine? $40,000 a year. Yeah. $40,000 a year. But they charge by each subscriber. So you pay for your subscription, but if you're, If your paper is published, first it goes through a peer review, which is anonymous, so that can be rigged, you know, payoffs, etc. Then they publish it, you as the university that publishes has to pay $30 per recipient of the paper. Wow, that's high. Yeah, it's crazy.

2:28:53 Yeah, there's your CPM. Yeah. It's not a cost per thousand. What's the cost per thousand on that? Multiply it. I have no idea. $30,000 is your CPM. I have no idea how many people subscribe, but I was like, wow, that's pretty, pretty out there. Reading some of the stuff about during a Senate hearing in 1977, it was revealed that the Pentagon had conducted numerous secret germ attacks on cities without public knowledge in an effort to test the threat posed by biological agents. In other words, this isn't anything new. These tests may have caused outbreaks of disease which occurred in some of the test areas writes Leonard A. Cole citing a Senate inquiry. Since the 1940s the military and the CIA have conducted numerous tests on the American people including the release of dengue fever carrying mosquitoes in Georgia and Florida. Woot! Oh man, love it. So here's, I don't know if you received this, I got a lot of these.

2:29:56 Apparently, nuclear experts from the US and Japan, such as Robert Alvarez of the Institute for Policy Studies, have sent an urgent letter to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who are warning about the high risk of the Fukushima Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool. That one more earthquake and the whole world is going to die of radiation. Yeah, I saw this. Now this is everywhere. You can just Google. It's a meme. Well, no, it's a copy paste thing. Well, it's becoming a meme. So I consulted our resident nuclear power expert, Atomic Rod, and he sent me the American Nuclear Society Fukushima Daiichi ANS Committee report. And nothing could be further from the truth.

2:30:46 According to the report and I tend to believe the report Here's just two quick notes from it that you mean you believe the report from a source that we kind it would that we trust as opposed to some Hysteric making it up. Well, let me tell you about the hysteric in a minute first Let me give you the details the report then I'll tell you about this guy Robert Alvarez because I figured out some stuff about him and Fukushima Daiichi's Unit 4 spent fuel pool has been carefully inspected by seismic engineers. Where necessary structural reinforcement was added, qualified engineers believe that the pool and its supports are sound and would not be affected if an earthquake the size of the one, which was unique,

2:31:25 which could happen in another 1800 years unless an earthquake machine is turned on again. The initial event occurred right at the site of the reactor, so it would be very interesting if it happened again at the exact same spot, the exact same magnitude. And from the report, in April a concern developed centered around the strength of the structure supporting Unit 4 SFP. Between May 31st and June 20th, steel support pillars were installed to provide protection against damage that might result from additional seismic events. And from that report, Robert Alvarez has deemed everything to be so dangerous we're going to die that we have this meme to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. Let me tell you about Robert Alvarez. He was a music major in college before he dropped out.

2:32:13 And he is the resident nuclear expert at the Institute for Policy Studies. You should take a look at this outfit. It's IPS-DC.org. Huge. Harry Belafonte is on the board of trustees. But here's what's interesting. Well, that's a giveaway. He was an analyst. I'm sorry. He was the the head of the Department of Energy during the Clinton administration, but was fired from that job after his teenage daughter turned him in for growing dozens of pot plants in their basement. More interesting, he got married in that time, just before he was appointed the Department of Energy chief. He was married to an anti-nuclear activist lawyer

2:33:08 who represented Karen Silkwood in the famous Silkwood case against Kerr-McGee. Yeah. This guy is a total inside douchebag shill. And people, and you know, I hear Alex Jones trying to sell iodine pills. This is not going to happen. This is only, and by, if you look at IPS, it's a big agenda, 21 corporation. I'm looking at it. It is totally ideas into action for peace, justice in the environment, sustainability. This is a war against a cheap, It could eventually be cheap a cheap clean fuel, and I'm becoming more and more of a new guy I have to say I mean, I'm no nuclear scientist I don't see a day mastered and sir mark dying of radiation How many people were killed outside of the explosion there in in Fukushima none not from no one died from radiation? There were a few who could maybe have 1% more developing cancer in their life. Well sucks and

2:34:08 Happens where that that report comes from this blog. Oh, yeah, it's not a blog is a huge operation John There's not just a blog to look we'll look into this in the days ahead to see what these people are These guys are absolute total douchebags But beware, you know because people send me this stuff saying oh, you know, we're all gonna die Fukushima No, the media is not reporting on it I'm sorry, my bullshit detector... I'm always disappointed when people take something as superficial. I mean we try to make it clear that everything is bullcrap until you look into it, but then they would take some rumor floating around from this maniac, you know, this literal hysteric.

2:34:52 And then they would pass it on to us as if there was some scandal going on yeah The scandal is that you've been suckered into into you know you've been hook line and sinkered yourself listener And you should rethink you know what how you're approaching these these Information items you're approaching them wrong because in other words once we go away You're doomed and it works the other way too. This is another one that I got and Going exactly the opposite direction headline wind farms can cause can cause climate change finds new study Now isn't this great everyone's like hey look wind farms climate change Again you've been duped So everyone copy paste this headline and So that was the telegraph in the UK here is earth sky org and

2:35:48 So this is all people anti-nuclear and wind. And it says, you know how you can use a ceiling fan to pull warm air down from the top of a room in winter? Which by the way, I'm a pilot. I've flown, you know, for every thousand feet, it's two degrees colder. So I don't know what you're talking about. NASA announced on April 29th, wind farms in Texas might be doing something similar. They appear to be acting as fans to pull warmer air closer to Earth's surface at night. As a result, According to the study of satellite data, whose results were released yesterday, an area of West Central Texas covered by four large wind farms warmed to a rate of .72 degrees. And was like, oh, look, look, look, wind is bad. If you actually look at the report to go in, this is what you need to do. Go to NASA.gov, look for the report. I know it's a pain in the ass. You got to use their search or maybe Google won't find it because everyone's, you know, the only thing that's out there is this.

2:36:41 A little caveat in the report, the warming estimate applies specifically to this particular region and covers a time when wind farms were expanding rapidly. This estimate should not be considered directly applicable for other landscapes and regions, nor should it be extrapolated over a longer period of time as the warming would likely plateau rather than continue to increase if no new wind turbines are added. The warming is also considered a local effect, not one that would contribute to a larger global trend. That's the actual report.

2:37:17 So you've got to be very, very careful. And I know a lot of blogs out there, you know, this is why I think when you come to KnowAgenda, they'll be like, hey, look, Wayne sucks. It might suck, but not because of this study. Not because of this study. That's the point. I like wind as an alternative source, but you know, having been in the haul and wind areas where they have the big ones, those big monsters. Yeah, they're huge. Those things make a creepy noise that just really just drives humans away. I mean, it's just not a good sound. Well, if we're fortunate enough to build our container home where we want it here, and I've put in a low bid because, you know, frankly, can I afford?

2:38:01 And the land is owned by a trust, so they don't give a crap. Who knows if that happens? But it borders on a bird preserve. I'll bet you 50 bucks right now, because that's all I can muster. that if I put up a windmill, they're gonna force me to take it down because I'm killing birds. Yeah, killing birds. Which by the way, when I was in Holland where they have these big monsters and we went to a giant wind farms, I never saw one dead bird. I mean, you think there'd be a dead bird down at the bottom, don't you think? Down at the bottom of the base where you're going. A couple of dead ones. Yeah, a couple of dead ones. There's no dead birds. Where's all the dead birds? I was expecting to see piles of pelicans.

2:38:44 Piles of pelicans you have created so many amazing show titles this this time around John is really good all right so Wait before we go out or start to rap. Yeah, we gotta mention something I keep forgetting to mention and unfortunately so late in the show I mean you have to do it again to the artists mmm do not Give us art that has the two of us in the art We did that for a whole year the early days of the art for the album covers And we we stopped it you if you haven't noticed we hasn't been a picture of Adam and myself in the on the album cover for two two and a half years So I don't know about that one might have crept in okay. Why okay? I'm not sure I don't remember one recently

2:39:31 But whatever the case is stop doing that and give us you know clever art that is you know relates to the show or some pun or something I mean Nick Durant is a good guy to take a look at his stuff because he does you know generally speaking quite amusing pieces that are all Thorin is also quite good recently Anyway, so finally there's one meme going around that I want to mention which was I couldn't figure out where this mean was come me most coming from but people kept bringing it up and And apparently it comes from Morgan Stanley, I believe, and who I didn't realize this but it's explained in this little clip, which is Morgan Stanley has been following Congress, I guess since, I don't know, the 1800s, in terms of how people are voting. Because this meme has come up with, oh, we haven't had this kind of a Congress since 1870.

2:40:24 And I said, who's making this stuff up? It's actually a fact. Play this. Political problem, but the political problems are very dominating that as a result of the last four years, our politics have actually become more polarized, less communication, less ability to work across party lines than it was in 2007, 2008. Actually, then it was in 1870. We do this count of the party line votes in the House and Senate. and we are as polarized in our history as from I think it's 1870 onward in the House rather than the Senate and just at the previous peak which was arguing about reconstruction. So I just found it to be a curious fact that they actually have been

2:41:10 Morgan Stanley the big investment house has actually been monitoring this for some investment purposes obviously and it's true We haven't had a Congress this bad since 1870. That's it. That's your encore. That's your goodbye swan song That's how we leave everybody with that. I thought it was uplifting. Okay, you finished then That's I a teenage girl sigh. I bought the Samsung Galaxy Note. Oh why? Why you're an iPad guy no I had no no no no no I haven't used the iPad other than for jingles And I haven't used the iPhone for ever since you gave me that Google phone I've been using that one and that was just it was just becoming too slow. It was a very good phone It's just becoming too slow so you got this fight that that kind of that mid-sized thing that Samsung has a big phone. It's outstanding the you and Leo

2:42:09 I know yeah, apparently Leo likes it too. Yeah, it's an outstanding device and I don't need... it's very fast. I don't think I need any tablet. It's a perfect size. I mean I have big hands so that works. It is huge and you put it up to your head and you know people like, whoa. Yeah, what's wrong with this guy? I don't make many phone calls. No, you don't call me, no one calls me. So that's an uplifting. So you like that thing too? No, I love it. I don't like it, I love it. That's a head shaker for me because I've played with it and I... I mean, I... I don't see anything wrong with the Nexus S, the one that you now think is too slow or whatever. It's too slow and too small.

2:42:54 I like the size, it's light, you can put it in a shirt pocket, doesn't make your shirt sag. Yeah, but do you only actually use it to make phone calls? I mean, I use my phone contin- I mean, throughout the entire day, I'm on my phone all the time to collect stories from noagendanewsnetwork.com, you know, I can't have the little teeny keyboards are making me mad, so now I have a much bigger keyboard, it's virtual, but it's a much bigger keyboard. And much more scramming. I'm old now. I'm gonna be 48 in September so I have a harder time seeing It's relaxing my shoulders. I'm not scrunched up all that much. It's very very good You should give it a try you really should and the LTE by the way that might save our ass one day I get 20 megabits down on that phone 5 megabits up. Don't you get capped like right away? I Haven't had long enough to know I have unlimited bandwidth whatever that means

2:43:52 Well, I played with the phone Leo's and And I do have a gag for people that played it on him and he managed to get out of it going when you borrow somebody's phone lock it No, you boy you could do that But no I think it's better you go and you go to the language and change the language to Greek Because it's very hard to figure out what button to push to get it back right yeah, yeah, and everything's in Greek This is why I don't invite you over to the house Probably. Probably one of the reasons. You do nasty crap like that. Alright, it's a great gag. Eh, hilarious. Anyway, that's an uplifting way to get out. And a reminder, timesheets are due next Tuesday. If you want your healthcare benefits, John. Hey, thank you very much everybody for supporting the program. Go and get a mug, one of those really... they're cheap considering what we wound up spending on them at noagendination.com or a Mayan coin.

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