Off The Rails

00:00 It's Ranch Bernetti. And I got my dogs coming over here. Looks like they killed a chicken again. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, October 25th, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1950. This is No Agenda. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. It is time once again for No Agenda. It is our 19th anniversary. Stand by because we got a special guest here on today's show, J Cal Jason Calacanis, joining us in 90 seconds from now. Brooklyn kid bank slips, cash that is pop made.

00:41 Empire on better max. Back with the hot tapes. Dad won the master. His lad made the stock pay. Later meat venture. Cash from the dark side. One business card with that laminated top face. Look at it. Give it back capital lock baby. First round of funding is card in a handshake. Even his networking came with the clawback. Publisher edited the drag in his own freight. Luggage cart literature stacks on the concave sidewalk before we could cash in on stock gains. He carried the covers backs don't get stock grains. Back with the hot tapes. Back with the hot tapes. Adam wrote a clip on the cracks in the stock phrase. They package a panic.

01:24 We asked with the stock page. Who gets the upside when facts get a Sunday with an old friend laugh how the clock plays? 19 years of hearing the catch in the soft sell. One more with the Brooklyn kid back with the hot taste. Value for value. No stock in the outrage. He wants his business card back. Jason Calacanis. No agenda in the morning. It's the morning. In the morning, Jason Calacanis. JK. That was incredible, Adam. The lyrics. I'm listening to the lyrics. I'm like, okay, it's going to be AI slop. Yeah. I literally read like the New Yorker article on my early career when I was walking around with my zine in New York.

02:08 It knew all the facts that I had. I was so broke that when I had the zine, I had a luggage cart and I would walk around New York with 300 episode issues and I give them out to you know technology companies down on Lower Broadway Manhattan. It's hilarious. What about the hot tapes though? The Betamax? What was that? Were you selling porn? Okay, so no, my first business was, I must have read my book as well. So of course, why not? Here's what happened. This is a great Brooklyn story. This guy, who was a connected guy, was in for four grand to my dad, playing Backgammon in 19 early 80s. So this is like a big. And so anyway, there's a VIG every week. You pay off a little bit. You pay a little interest, whatever.

02:53 My dad wasn't in the mob. He just happened to play Batgammon in popular with that. I know some of these people. They're very nice people. You don't want to owe them any money. My dad had a bar where, you know, all kinds of different people hung out. So anyway, the guy comes to see my dad. He's like, here, you know, I got him painted off, whatever. And he said, oh, your kid likes the Star Wars, right? And he said, yeah, he's obsessed. So he gives my dad a bootleg copy of The Empire Strikes Back. And the tape was, you know, VHS tape. So I went home. My dad brings it home. I watch it. And then I read in like PC Magazine or one of these things that you can connect to VHS players together.

03:37 And if you hit play on one and record on the other, you can like real time make a copy. Oh, wow. What a discovery. Yes. And so I'm like, oh my God. But, you know, it's real time. So you had to play the whole tape. So I would sit there with my friend. He would bring his VHS over. We connect these two thousand dollar machines and we make four copies a day on the weekend, Saturday and Sunday. Then I would sell them for 20 bucks each at school. So I'm selling them and I make a business card and I laminate it on my typewriter. It says, Jason's hot tapes, because I don't know anything. I'm a 15-year-old. And so I start selling eight tapes a week at school. This is real money. And so I get pinched by my math teacher. This is good. This is a story I've never heard, J Cal. So he pulls me in after school. He says, I need to talk to you.

04:22 I come in. He goes, I know you're selling the Empire Strikes Back. The kids told me they're all talking about it. And I look at him. He says, Is that true? And I look him dead in the eyes and I said, You interested? He goes, Actually, yeah, my kids love this movie. I'd like to get a copy. I said, Okay, well, they're normally 20. I'll give it to you for 10. He goes, Okay. He pulls 10 bucks and he buys a copy from me. And I was like, Wow, capitalism is really awesome. And that just got me started. It was a crazy, crazy story. But here we are. Yeah, 19 years. years. 19 years. When's the first time you listened to No Agenda?

05:05 I mean, it was definitely in year one because there was like, you know, a little tempest in a teapot, but oh, John's doing a different podcast than Twit. And, oh, it's also Sunday. It's a similar time or whatever. So this is like little. No, no, no, no. It was always after Twit. We always wanted the same day, though. The ideal. Well, first of all, let me just celebrate for a second with a couple of horns here. We've got the horns. We always have to celebrate an anniversary. Wow, it takes my whole breath away when I do that. The whole idea was that we wanted to grab the

05:44 grab the online audience that was already online anyway. And like, well, why don't we just have people switch over to No Agenda? We kind of timed it. I mean, I think we started maybe an hour after Twit was usually over sometimes. I think so. Yeah, sometimes Twit would run long. But I think John would also sometimes just leave. Like, I got to go, you know, and he have something like, I got to base my meat or something. But really, it was just coming in to do the show. So we're actually quite grateful to Leo for letting us. Absolutely. You know, for us being able to felch his audience. You were on the other day. I was on the other day. I do it like maybe once a year or twice a year or something, but it's very hard for me to go on because.

06:26 Yeah, because everybody hates Elon and you're Elon's proxy. What are you doing? Yeah, I try to explain to people. I am not Elon's proxy. I'm just his friend. And, you know, we were friends before he was even famous, like he is today, even before Tesla. I mean, I knew him in the PayPal, you know, kind of pre-SpaceX days. Long story short, you know, there was a time period during the Trump peak derangement syndrome. I think some people can have valid criticisms of the guys. I'm not saying you can't, but it was to the point at which there were guests like, I guess, Corey Doctorow or other ones who would not appear. I came on. And I'm like, guys, what are we doing here? It's a roundtable. It's great radio if we disagree about

07:09 anymore. Yeah, whatever. And I don't need to answer every question about my brother over here. You don't have to answer every question about JCD. JCD didn't have to answer for you. We were all sovereign individuals in the world, but something happened in America where if you're standing, you know, whatever, five feet to the left of a guy, you're responsible for everything they've ever done in their entire life. Well, I actually paid. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, goodness gracious. Oh, God. Here we go. Now this better be AI. Now it's a hoot. There it is. There it is. Is Brunetti in his truck to be in the middle of the day? I don't know. I am in the diesel-powered studio, boys.

07:50 Good morning, boys. In the morning. Good morning. In the morning, Dana. Get ready. Hold on. Let's play a little clip from last Sunday's This Week in Tech with Jason Calacanis. Oh, God. Yeah. And our system is broken because money plays too big a role. I agree. If we should get rid of Citizens United, that would be 100% huge mistake. That was the Supreme Court decision that said a corporation is an individual with First Amendment rights, and so we can't stop them from contributing unlimited funds to campaigns, which is how Elon can give $250 million. I suggest you judge. Yeah, if you want to judge Elon, just judge him by the products he makes. But also, he's, I mean, I hate to say it, but I'll give him and I'll give Apple a pass.

08:32 Oh, no, I think that's the thing. I now know they gave $25 million to the ballroom. Ballroom is a business. And I mean, I don't like it. I think if you're a customer of these companies, you can vote with your feet. Although I note I still buy Apple. Oh, please. Crap. I still buy in on Apple's producing great stuff. And it's all awesome. You got to just judge these people on the books among the products they build and understand, like, they're playing the game on the field. When Obama was in, Netflix backed up the truck and gave him $30 million afterwards to produce podcasts.

09:11 Like, no podcast experience. And we're just going to, and like, here's podcast experience. You don't need experience for a podcast. Look at Brunetti. That's what I'm doing here. Now I'm getting experience. I'm building up my resume. All I need is a diesel truck and a little star link, and I can get it going. I love Brunetti's fourth act. I was there as possible. Is it my fourth act? I don't know. I'm still figuring it out. All I said was before my 70th birthday, I'd like to have a fourth act, and it's Diesel Podcast. Okay, I can already talk about my ranch era. This show is going to go completely off the rails. That's obvious. I'm not going to stop.

09:56 Well, actually, I wasn't sure if J Cal was going to show up, so I was just here as backup. I appreciate you. You were getting a little nervous. I was worried. He never worried. Here's how it works with JKAL. Hey, can you come on Sunday? Yeah, okay. Send me a send an invite to whatever the email address is. And you send it, and then it never gets like a confirmation. The Google Calendar. I'm like, well, that must be some automatic system. It'll say yes. And then I send him a DM on Twitter. I send him a WhatsApp, like unread until. I have a confession. I have a confession. Okay. Okay. I was getting all of your, I'm getting all your calendar invites and everything.

10:39 I just know that the bane of your existing book existence is booking the show. So I just troll you. Oh, my God. Oh, we do it with a show. No, I'm joking. I didn't do that. It worked. It worked. It worked. It worked. I'm glad Dana's here because we had a hilarious moment on the previous show. Some donation. And by the way, JKL, you don't have to say for the donations. Tina's going to actually step in and help me read the donations for today, which is, I'm really excited about that. She's like, hey, should I help you? Because it was a four-hour show on Thursday. Jason, what are you doing? I'm going to see the mic, dude. Sorry, let me move myself for a second. I'm just extending it there.

11:19 So I just, I know everyone hates the AI slot, but I got COVID from a sailor in Seattle just cracked us up so much. I got to play this. I got to play this song. It's only a minute and a half. It was just a moment. He winked and bought the Rum and Sailori, quite the catch. Three days of fever later, boys, I'd surely met my match. I got COVID from a sailor in Seattle. A stepping seaman tannin tall and free. Everybody now. You gave him more than memories that night upon the water.

12:02 I got COVID from a sailor in 1910. And a pork is just a pork. I got COVID from a sailor. I love this. Oh, ladies to the death. I love this so much. Thank you, sir. Now, ladies, sir, everybody to the center. That's right. And do the Adam Curry. And Josie Go. I got COVID from a sailor in Seattle.

12:45 A stepping seaman tannin tall and free. He gave him more than memories that night upon the water. I got COVID from a sailor in 19 Oh man. This is the stuff. This is the stuff that we're so legendary for. These types of songs. Even though this is AI, still the lyrics matter. I'm so glad that it made it into. When you text me that clip, I was like, oh, man, if we only had it for the show for us, we couldn't. But I'm glad that you read it so much. It would have been perfect. Would have been perfect. Okay. So. But that is, by the way, that Twit clip is literally the bait of my existence.

13:25 It's like every time I go anywhere, people are like, hey, can you comment on this person? You comment on tax, you can comment on that. I'm like, or you could ask them, or you could listen to when they give their 17 podcasts a month. And then it always. But they don't have the access. And then they want to try to pigeonhole you and do the same thing. That's no fun to do. And the crazy thing is that I started a private DM group on X, because Dana and I, we want to get to Elon. We're trying to get to. Because Dana, check it out. Dana lost his number. Dana lost his number. I did. Well done, Dana. Well, it wasn't intentional, but I changed. I never saved people's numbers, but I had his email, but he stopped responding to me emails because I was just annoying him, I think.

14:10 So I don't blame him. I would start responding to C. Yeah, a little bit. You know how to do it. He just has a Grockbot respond to me. My Grockbot's going crazy. I was literally doing Grokbot stuff all this past week. It's so unhinged. It's completely unhinged at this point. And then I don't know if you guys saw the Unitree robot. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. There's a new, well, we'll send it over to you, Bernetti, but they have this Unitree, which is the Chinese kind of Optimus that's already out. And they're very like kind of Bruce Lee, slender versions of robots. With long legs, with very. very long legs, very long legs and arms, great reach. So, like, kind of

14:55 really intimidating looking. And they made a kung fu one that like runs around and like does knee strikes to the side of a car in an abandoned warehouse and then flips over things. And like, you're like, okay, so that's a Black Mirror episode come to life. And when you watch it, did you think it was, Adam? Did you think it was AI? And how many seconds before you were able to say, slop, real product? Unfortunately, I just consider everything to be slop these days. Everything. Everything is. That you assumed is fake. Yeah, when I saw the robot picking up the car to drag the dead body out from under the front wheels, I'm like, okay, that's that.

15:35 But all of it, everything. The whole world. Is it AI slop or is the whole world is fake and gay? Everything. It's done. It's over. It's extremely. This is the other for this program. Well, I was watching the, when I was on Gummies watching the roaster unveiling, I was so confused. Oh, my God. Well, hold on a second because I actually heard Jason question this. I mean, he likes. Look, he's a showman and he likes this kind of thing. And this event was clearly showbiz. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he showed it to me like three or four months ago, that same demo. And he was like, hey, check this out.

16:17 And, you know, we're personal friends, whatever. So he showed it to me. And I was like, is that AI slop? And he was like, no, no, it's real. I'm like, one more time. Let me see one more time. So he showed it to me again in the photo. I was like, that doesn't look real. I'm sorry, brother. I know you can land two rockets, but that, and it still doesn't look real. Ah, all right, J Cal, slop or not. I mean, it's definitely real. Now, is it a viable flying car that you will purchase next year? Oh, no. Obviously, it's a proof of concept type thing. But, you know, it reminds me. Did you guys see the documentary at the Elizabeth Holmes?

16:58 Hold on. Hold on. Before you go there, I just want to comment on you saying, I'm friends with Elon, whatever. Whatever. Whatever. I just want to be a fourth investor in Uber. I won like 17 enemies for anyway. All right. Now, Dana has seen the documentary. So talk amongst yourselves, girls. Okay, ladies. Well, so anyway, the documentary has this great moment. And Dana, there's like many great moments in this thing. And you obviously are an expert in this field. But the one great moment is Elizabeth Holmes is trying to explain to Nathan Fielder that she did nothing wrong, obviously.

17:36 And she says, yeah, well, but this, you know, Theranos machine is capable of doing 140 tests on this machine. And he's like, yeah, but you went to jail because he couldn't do the 140 tests. She's like, well, the machine is all of this. And it's like, right chemistry. But she kept saying with the right chemistry, right? I think it was with the right chemistry. So then there's like caveat on caveat. And he's like, you know, this, there's like four, this documentary works on four or five levels, Adam. One of them is entrepreneurs making claims that do or do not come true.

18:15 And then when is it lying and when is it being delusional? When is it being, you know, I don't know, hyperbolic, whatever, or just having aggressive targets. You know, the DARPA cars drove themselves. You remember this, Adam, in the early 2000s when DARPA did the self-driving challenge. Yeah, sure. The cars drove themselves, dot, dot, dot, into a ditch and burst into flames. But they did drive themselves. And now we're sitting here 20 years later and Waymos and all kinds of cars and FSD is all driving itself. So, you know, it's the timeline of when you're right. But anyway, it's well, it goes back to when the first video of him landing a rocket. I remember watching a newscast, a local newscast in LA, and the newscaster was like, well, that's obviously a simulated video.

19:00 And that seemed crazy to land a rocket. So the same thing, I think, applies now. It seems crazy. This car is flipping and seems completely impractical. And in the instances that he showed it to us, it is impractical, but there will be practical uses for the technology that's been developed for this car. It could be as simple as the suction aspect of making it the best. We need cars. And suction. Doctor, doctor. And thrust. Okay, there's zero practical use for this car. Okay, well, there's two technologies in the car. So there's three technologies in the car, actually. One of them is there's giant fans under the car, Adam, that

19:43 reverse suck it into the ground, makes it corner. So that is totally applicable. There was one other, hold on, hold on. What about gravel and stuff like that? If there's gravel, this is for track use kind of thing. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, I very practical. I have a big device that goes around my property and sucks up all of the leaves and it uses a fan. So it also pulls in a lot of debris. And so there's special blades that are made for any rocks or things that get sucked up. So I'm assuming it would have a similar type of. Mike Kuboto has that too. Yeah. What kind of Kubota you got? Oh, goodness gracious. I think I got like 360 ride on. Goodness gracious. How big is your ranch? How big is it? It's huge.

20:29 Around 40 acres. Yeah, so we're similar. You take care of it all yourself? I have the wildlife exemption, so I let it go wild and we just have to put out food for the deer. Well, you have to wait. You just put out food for the deer? That should be illegal, dude. Five years ago, Jay Cal's place. We have to do bird feeders. The deer is our own choice. We have to do water remediation. We have to kill anthills, red anthills, I think. Oh, yeah. So there's like a series of things. Yeah. Anyway, what I would say is you have to see the documentary, Adam. It is outstanding. Hey, but on all levels. Here's my question. This is probably a good one for you. To me, I mean, people scam with their pitches to VC all the time.

21:15 And, you know, and all, and we've got all kinds of examples of AI magic that turned out to be anonymous Indians. But Elizabeth Holm gets popped for 10 years. To me, the only reason that happened is because she embarrassed this special Kleiner Perkins group, you know, with like the generals and all these captains. So I can actually explain it. So here's the difference: there is when you're raising money, you have to be incredibly buttoned up. And if you lie or extend the truth when raising money, there's a special term for this: securities, fraud.

22:00 Then there's when you say something on stage like Steve Jobs and you're like, hey, this is going to be incredible. You're a lot of hit wrong. And that becomes, you know, those things are like product claims, et cetera. And you can get in trouble for that if you don't deliver the product or whatever, but there's a lot of leeway there to talk about your mission, talk about your end goal. Hey, we want to have a flying car. It's Joby, right? And Joby and Archer are very close to having actual flying cars. But when you're in the meeting with an investor, if you say we have these five clients, and I had a startup do this, they said they had five clients or so, and they had these four employees. And an angel investor who put like 50K in it called those five people and said, Do you work for this company?

22:42 And they were like, three of them said no, but he just pitched with the deck that said they had. He kept that in his pocket. The company started to fail a year later. And he said, I'm demanding my money back. Here's the evidence. You committed securities fraud. If I don't get my money back by this day, I'm going to send you to the SEC. He did wind up getting sent to the SEC. That's what Elizabeth Holmes did allegedly, or it's not even allegedly, according to the courts. She was lying to people while selling securities. That's the big no-no. Now, will you eventually be able to take a small amount of blood and do a large number of tests? Well, of course, it's going to get better and better. But her timing is probably 20 years off. So this idea that you could do a tiny micro vial, you know, the one she holds up that's like the size of a TikTok almost.

23:27 Like, it's not going to be that. It's going to be one vial of blood instead of seven. You know, when we go for these seven vials of blood situation to get whatever number of tests, 100 tests, it's going to go down to one vial of blood for 140 tests. That'll happen in 10 years. And then people will be sitting there saying, see, Elizabeth Holmes was unfairly prosecuted. She was, you know. Seemed pretty extreme 10 years. 10 years is a lot. I mean, maybe it's five years. As a Christian, dare I say, I've gotten, hey, let's get the term row here. We're out to get Bernetti. That's our next target. We're here. We're going to convert him. Yep, we are. Hey, we got a guy we want to introduce you to. His name is Jesus.

24:09 He's really dope. He's got some great ideas. He does. He's nice. He's a great guy. He's there for you. You ready to accept him? Anyway, the point is, you know, I felt great sympathy for her and her family. And then it's like extremely hard to feel sympathy sometimes because she knows she did the wrong thing, et cetera. And then she had two kids right before going into jail. And now. Yeah, that's kind of messed up, I think. There's a very cynical take on that. And then there's like a beautiful take on it. But, you know, it's. What's the beautiful take? take? I mean, the beautiful take is like, if she's innocent and she has these incredible kids, the world needs more great kids, right? And so we just need to have more kids on the planet. And that there's something special about being a mom.

24:54 And she wasn't denied being a mom because she was innocent. You get what you get what I'm saying? Yeah, but if you know you're about to go. What's playing in the background, Jason? Oh, man. Don't tell me this. Oh, God. Now it's turning into a roundtable. All right, guys. Welcome to the Loser Brigade. Here it is. This is the B team. Andrew Horowitz is here. I think he's cleaning. I think he's cleaning muscles. Oh, you think he's shucking oysters? You guys can see that. Oh, of course. I forgot. Oh, I think he's shucking. I don't see anything. It sounds like he's on a ship. Hold on. I hear water running. Are you in the shower? Horowitz. Horowitz. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah, we hear you. Hello, hello, hello. Yeah, we hear you. Yeah, I'm at the airport.

25:38 I'm at LA airport here, three and a half hours away. And trying to get back to Fort Lauren L. Oh, that's an incredible story, Andrew. Wow. The details of the story. Wow. The twisted turns. Now we just need Rob Dew and Matt Long, and then it's a party. Well, they're welcome. I think the Curry Caster can handle five. I'm not sure. This is the first time I've had three on ever. I'm stress testing it. Yeah. Congratulations, Adam. You've recreated the Retarded All-In podcast. Now, this is like when the Avengers turned into like, you know, the Hulk and four other characters that nobody knows the name of. Well done.

26:20 This is like you go from a fun, this is like the all-in podcast is like the So House. Yes. This is like Spearmint Rhino. This is like the all-out podcast. Yeah. I mean, literally the loser brigade here. Wow. What's everybody doing this weekend? I don't know. I'm going to Phoenix. I'm at an airport. I tried to get upgraded to Economy Plus. And I snuck into the lounge and I'm eating bad Danish. Yeah, well, that's pretty close to what the situation is here. But I'm glad to get out of the way. Are you in a bar, Andrew, watching the game? I am just walking along the bathroom area in Terminal C or something. So Andrew Horowitz is in an airport bathroom. Doesn't seem suspicious at all, Brunetti.

27:01 Is it bathroom 14, stall six? According to Adam, what happens? See what happens, Adam. You bring these guys on. The show is a train wreck. In fact, I'm tweeting this right now. Train wreck. Train wreck. Train wreck. It's a terrible train wreck. It's the 19th anniversary. It's supposed to be a party. Well, it is a party. He's burning the boats. He's literally like, I got, this is the penultimate episode. Let's burn it all down. The entire legacy burnt into two shows. Well done, Adam. All we miss is Dvorak. He would have been, he was like, he's doing like, take them off. This is horrible. Try drawing his things. This is bad stuff. He would have hung up already. All right. I'm out of here.

27:42 I got some meat in the oven. Wrecking the show. Wrecking the show. It's not supposed to be gash or advertising. Just tell people to send the money, okay? Yeah. Where's the money? Jason, what tequila were you drinking last night? I was drinking my own all-in-takill last night, and I got a little bit tipsy. And then I was like, Eddie Bali on Twitter who wants to ask somebody, I'll give you X money. And I just started giving people money on Twitter. You're so ghost, man. You're so ghost. I don't deserve this Twitter buddy. I'll give it away. No. I'll give you what's wedding. Who wants a $69? It was pretty huge. All right, well, since we're all here

28:28 and there's nothing else I'm, I mean, I have no control. Why don't we all do our favorite JCD story? Since we're all, you know, we got these three guys on, there's four of us. It's a mess. Andrew, you want to kick it off? Oh, there's so many stories with him. I mean, you know, from the squeaky chair, of course, the constant preparation issues that we had throughout the DH Unplugged, you know, 18 years with DH Unplugged with him and all that. And then my favorite always looking for the stop. You know, John was always looking to pick a stock and he'd go for this angle that he had.

29:05 We tried to go for this thing where he would look for inside traders all the time. And he'd be like looking at this all the time, you know, going through our stock fix on a weekly basis. But my favorite stuff is when we would talk and all of a sudden you do a left turn into a traducting recipe. You know, and he's classic, yes. He would just talk about that and then some kind of wine that he's going to put with that. And then over the years, I asked about the wines that he had and that we drink it. Invariably, he would never drink any of the wines, it seemed. There's some kind of a basement. There's some kind of a storage facility somewhere with all of this wine that somebody's got to crack into.

29:45 I have a feeling that the family is doing that. I mean, they may sell it off piece by piece. I think it's all vinegar now. Well, that'd be perfect. And that was the other story. There you go, the vinegar book. Whatever happened to the vinegar book? Well, whatever happened to the vinegar. Hold on. The vinegar book will be a separate chapter in the Dvorak family cookbook, which I understand is forthcoming. But I do know that, and I've heard, I've spoken to Jay and to Brennan, that the vinegar, I mean, I've only been to his house once, so it was arguably, let's call it cluttered. But in the kitchen, he had a 10 by 10 area of vinegar, of just bottles of vinegar.

30:31 Had you seen that, Brunetti? Is that what was it on the floor? I think so. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, I did see a bunch of. I didn't realize that was a vinegar collection, but there was a bunch of stuff sitting on the floor. They should just make that house into a museum and let no agenda people rent it out as an Airbnb. Kind of like the Ann Frank house. Yes, the JCD house. And then you just leave the studio exactly as it is, like stacks of paper, flasks of paper. Plastify it, you know, spray plastic over it. Oh, yeah, put Lucy kind of, whatever that stuff is. But then if you come there on a Sunday, you can rent it out as an Airbnb for a thousand bucks. You can host No Agenda. So just No Agenda is just Rando's renting the Airbnb. It makes like a live stream that's just on constantly.

31:16 Oh, that's even better than a 24-hour live stream of lunatics who rent the Airbnb. She, we got an exit strategy here. I croak. We take the studio and then we rent it out for $300 a day for $65. You know, that's basically what Larry Ellison was paying for his checkpoint. I want to bring Geraldo Rivera in to do the mysterious opening of the closet. There's not enough time. Oh, you mean the vault? The vault? What's opposing the JCD's vault? Let's just make some fake vault. Let's make the whole thing fake. It's a great idea. I've always had this vision where he would open that door and just slightly crack it open and hold it and try to grab things out of it because he opened the door entirely.

31:58 It would just like explode. Kill him. Yeah, for sure. Brunetti, you didn't know him that long, but you talked to him probably as much as anybody. Yeah, two, three times a week, sometimes more. And he would usually call pretty late at night. And so it depended on, well, in the evening, so depending on how far into the gummies I was. But a lot of, it started with my wife. She's like, oh, here we go. And then she would get really annoyed. And so I would have to either not take his call. But then she started realizing that he was a wealth of information. So he turned into like our Google. So when her and I would get into a discussion that we disagreed on, she would always go, call John, call John.

32:42 Put him on the speakerphone. If you're so right, Brunetti, why don't you call JCD, put him on speakerphone, and have him tell you which is a better operating system, Linux or Windows. My wife is going to love your impression the farthest from the truth. She grew up in Beverly Hills. She grew up in Beverly Hills, man. She's not in New York. Brunetti. Okay. Okay, Mr. Emmy Awards. Why don't you call John C. DeVock and we'll find out. Well, how did you get to that? How did you meet John? How'd you meet JCD? Oh, let me tell you. I'll tell you exactly how this goes. Here's how I guarantee you, because this is, here's what John would do.

33:24 He would watch the donations come in and he'd say, hmm, I wonder who this person is. And then he'd look at the address if you were stupid enough to put your address in the payment details. Exactly. He would hop on Google and he'd fly around the house. He's like, hmm, okay. Then he'd go to Zillow, look at these looks. He's like, this guy's lobby. This is our registry. This person's not donating enough. And so I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure that he looked at your address and went, wait a minute. And then he looked you up because that's how I found out about Sir Mark and Day Mastered. He's like, dude, these are really famous architects.

34:09 These guys are loaded. It wasn't always about that. Our score. $88.88 is not an appropriate donation if you're living at an $8.8 million meeting. So I'm sure that John emailed you, Dana, and went, hey, you're famous. What's your deal? It wasn't quite like that, but he did. did email me after I made a donation and you misgendered me on the phone. And then you're the one that looked me up about the show. And then John emailed me, I think, kind of an apology afterwards. And we just started communicating then. And then we met up at a winery.

34:52 He sort of used me as a way in to go in to do some barrel tasting at Verite. Hey, hey, let's go to this place. Come with me and we'll get in for sure. No, actually, they made a donation to the show and they said, bring the Hollywood producer. And so he pushed me and we went and it was actually really nice. They set up this whole thing. It was during COVID and they set up these outdoor tents and everything. And they had the winemaker, the French winemaker, and his daughter, who's now the winemaker there. And John, it was a pretty miserable experience for me and my wife because we were just sitting there listening to John kind of berate the winemaker about the wine. This is no good. This will make good vinegar one day. Well, maybe next week.

35:36 Yeah, and that was the first time we met in person. And then we stayed in touch. He came out the ranch a couple of times. Every time I was in the Bay Area, we always met up and for dinner, he would pick the restaurant, which would always be one of the most expensive restaurants. Oh, yeah. Which one? Hold on. We got to pause the story here. Which one? When did he bang you out the most? What drawing me out? What? You know, he started from the bottom of the wine list and worked backwards. Like, what was the biggest ticket item he ever ordered? Alaskan king crab, double-stuff field chop. He ordered whatever he wanted. I don't even. I never looked at what they just, I always knew it was going to be expensive. After the first dinner, it's like, all right, I'm in for a few grand. Oh, wow. Yeah.

36:21 Yeah. It was always. The Adams do. Adam, you do your share then. I bought dinner for Adam. Yeah, you had Adam in San Francisco. Adam's an appropriate guy. He's not like. Hold on. My dog is in here. Okay. Well, listen, I got to stay at this ranch, Bernetti, and I got my dogs coming over here. Looks like they killed the chicken again. Hold on for life. Hold on. I got to fill it up with diesel. Bowie, Bowie. It's okay, buddy. Bowie, it's okay. You kill a chicken. Bowie, demo. I can't wait to fetch him in alone. I can't wait the Calacanis does me. Come on, do me. He'll come to me at some point. Hey, just do a Christopher Walking and you got Calacanis. No, you know. Bubbo, quiet. Oh, my favorite JCD. You were trying to get to these JCD moments.

37:05 Yeah. I got so many. But I think, you know, John, when he got his hooks into something, he was good at keeping the bit going. You know what I'm saying? So, like, oh, I'm going to be the guy who orders too much wine on these venture capital investors at CES. Remember, he ordered like eight grand and wine. So he knew that was a bit. So, like, oh, Bernetti's coming. Great. Let's go to a Michelin Star place. It was like, it's like half bit, half fun. And that's what makes him JCD. That's what you love about him. But the best one, which nobody really knows enough about, was there was a moment in time when Apple was kind of struggling pre-iPhone. And the Mac loyalists were the weirdos, right?

37:50 They were like the designers. It just was like a little cult on the side. And then Windows was everything. And all he would do is drag these guys. He would just drag them. Yeah, see, if Apple made an elevator, it'd be like one button, third floor. You're shit out of luck. You want to go to two? You want to go to the lobby? You want to stop it? You call it off? No, sorry. We took those buttons out. This is the genius of Steve Jobs. Give me up right there and I cancel the iPhone. See? And he just, he would bait them every time. And they just, they came back for more. Like it was like a, it was like a, he was like their dom and he, they were just would come back to the trial every time, whatever the product was, iPod, AirPods, iPhone.

38:34 Yeah, you see these AirPods? They don't have a cable. Like, what's that? One falls out. I'll go try it in the shower. Who comes up with a product like that? You see, you dropped your AirPods. They're gone. At the memorial service, which was actually, it was beautiful, although weird was there was like a Chinese urn, and that was John on a table. Like, that didn't feel right. But okay. But every single person who spoke, and some spoke for quite a while, they all said Void Zero went on forever. He loved Void Zero. He came all the way from Amsterdam. He had something to say. But every single person who spoke had some story about how John had helped them personally in their career, had coached them.

39:20 Which is big, yeah. Had you know, had said, hey, you know, maybe you do this or call this guy. guy. And then there was one guy who got up, and he was like old, old school. I'm talking CPM days or something. And he said that what John really was doing when he was complaining about products is making them better. He was trying to make them better. He just, he saw that the product was flawed and he just complained bitterly about it. And this guy actually had a good point. He said, John could have gone to any tech company, been a consultant, consulted for all of them, and made tons of money improving their products. And that is kind of what he did. And he, I mean, in the first

40:02 once we got through, once the money started coming in, that's when John would say things to me, and I'd be like, you're a dick. You're just a horrible, horrible, horrible man. Now, he would be right. This is the problem. He would be right 90% of the time. And, you know, if we had an argument and he saw that he was wrong, he would actually soften very quickly. Okay, I'm sorry. But not until when he passed, sadly, did I really realize that that was his true character? He truly want to be loved or do you want to be right? You want to be honest, you want to be loved.

40:43 No, it was, you want to be, you know, you can't be both. Do you want to be right or do you want to be rich? That's that's more the way he thought. Do you want to be right? And Adam's like, I kind of want the latter. Yeah. He was always, he was always also, you know, trying to create some kind of itch that didn't exist, right? So how many times Adam was he telling me about you talking about me on your show or vice versa? He'd call me like, did you hear what Adam said? Oh, what happened? Oh, oh, oh, I'm not going to tell you. You got to listen to the show. No, but that we would, we would discuss those moments later. And he's like, keep doing that. Keep doing that. I'm going to rile up Horowitz. Keep doing it. That's great. That's fantastic. It's a good bit. He always thought it was a good bit.

41:24 He did like to come up with different stories and a poke to bear. But he called me one time. I remember I was in LA and it was like in the middle of the day, which was odd for him to call me. He's like, hey, he's like, I want to start this rumor. And I'm like, what rumor, John? He's like, I want to start a rumor that you own a blimp. I remember this. Yes. And I'm like, why? He's like, I don't know. I just thought it was a good bit. I'm like, okay, I'll go along with it, but I have no idea why. It's a meme, you see? It's a meme. The idea is so powerful that it's contained in its own special and it incepts in people's heads.

42:06 We're going to start a meme. Okay. And this guy in the row ahead of me, Adam, he's got a fish full of nuts. And I'm saying, this guy just came out of the laboratory. He touched the thing. Now he scratched his balls. And now he's got a fish full of nuts. Who's a savage? You're in business classes. All right. Hold on. That's enough. You called it. You called tomorrow. John, tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying. And I think it will result in fights because it's just so annoying to watch. He takes his bag of peanuts and throws some plate of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a shake

42:47 around the nuts. And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Throws a nut in his mouth from his fist. He shakes and throws and shakes and throws. Annoying as hell to watch. So, and then he got COVID from a seller in Seattle. So the story, the story behind this, I was dating Tina at the time. And I don't remember. We were in bed on some morning. And maybe it was evening. And I'm like, listen to this. This is hilarious. And she's sitting there.

43:28 She's like, wow, that's so cool. I said, hey, watch me turn it into a cool little bit. And she watched me. I was like, yeah, baby. Let me get some porn music. Yeah, watch me edit this. I'm on, you know, I'm on. What is going on? I'm doing my editing program. Like, yeah, what do you think? I was really just trying to impress her. And it turned into one of the most iconic no agenda bits ever. What about all of the JCD isms? You know, like how to buy a chicken at Costco. The perfect way. Do you know about this, right? This one, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, you don't know this too. Yeah, it has to be a little bit of a way with the bag. Go ahead, Horowitz. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, what you do is you go into Costco and you go over to the chicken thing where they sell the chickens for $5 per chicken.

44:13 What you do is you wait for a minute. You wait till they come out with the new chickens. Then you investigate. You walk up to the chicken. chickens, you look at the wrappers, and you find out which chicken breast, the top of the rib by the top, where the max pressure where it is touching the paper on the top of the wrapper. That's the chicken that you buy. So you have to stand there all day and wait for them to bring out a new thing of chickens. How if you're not going to be able to do these chickens out? They bring them out. They come out pretty regularly. Yeah, they come out regularly. But it has to touch. Half of the chicken has a touch. I wait or 80 minutes. Hey, Jay Cald, do you have chickens on your ranch? I do. I do. I do have to. Here's the thing, Bernetti. You don't have to think about this because of the Emmys and everything.

44:55 The residual checks. We don't get residual checks here. I know a channel. I'm also not a third guy in Uber either. Okay, well, listen. You want to talk about Emmy money? You want to talk about Uber money. It's different categories. Yeah, Uber money is a lot more money, pal. All right, fair enough. Here's the thing. Let me just leader. Okay. But if every store's got a loss leader and you only buy the loss leader at five stores and you're the winner. You understand? It's like cornering Broadway in Monopoly. Yeah, see? And then you're a winner. So you have to hack the system, okay? It's a lot of fun. Do you want to tell me about your chickens then? I have like whatever, five or six. We had six chickens. We have five now. One of the dogs broke one, got one.

45:41 Out of that one. I mean, when they got here, I named them chicken palm, nugget. The girls were like, stop, dad. Don't eat them. But they make a lot of eggs. So we have too many.com. Yes. By the way, do you all have that book? Do you have? I have that book. Did you read that book? Or look at it? Yeah, we got that book. Yeah. That is the biggest egg book ever. Yeah. It's too many eggs. And we got all different types of chickens and we raised them. What do you got? I don't even know, but my girls did this and they raised all different ones. So now we get like, you know, there's all different color eggs, different sizes. And I got to tell you, have you had a coyote massacre yet? We have not.

46:20 We built it like three feet into the ground, put in a foundation, and we have to like double coop cage to get the cage. So they're not free range. Well, we let them go out for a couple of hours a day. Oh, that's when it'll happen. Exactly. Well, actually, the adult Farmville, the Hawks get them. You guys were. You're about the age that you guys did Farmville, I think. And then you grew up and you actually got your farms. Yeah. I mean, it's more like conspiracy voting against the machine and being ready for the revolution. There's like a 1% chance this all goes to like heck is what most people think. And you think you're ready just because you got 40 acres and five chickens? More ready than the most. I got two wells. I got power sauces, four power sources.

47:05 I got a protein source. I got more ammunition. Do you know how to because honestly, I don't. I think about that all the time. And I'm like, man, I don't know how to skin a deer or clean anything. No, no, no. No, do what I did. You go on YouTube. You go on YouTube. You find the video how to field dress a deer. And then you use DLP and you download it so that I was going to say, if we're offline, like, how are we going to get YouTube downloaded? It's interesting you say this, Adam. If you're down this rabbit hole, there are hard drives you can buy for no amount of money and thumb drives

47:44 that have already downloaded every possible thing. So I think I should just start a Grokbot that does this in real time and then puts it in cold. That's not a bad idea. Actually, when you do that, can you send it to me? Because I'm serious. I 100% want to build it. So it has like Wikipedia and whatever else you can, you know, it's your own. There are literally thumb drives of this that you can buy. I don't want to present it nicely. I'm having one of those. I'm having one of those moments in the airport where I feel so normal right now compared to you guys. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Andrew, you've been in that stall for a long time. I don't know. I know it's time to come out. People are not. It's getting a little weird here. Did you go into the family stall? That's for changing babies. Oh, there is one right here. It's not bad.

48:29 Do you ever use that as a luxury and you're like, you know what? I can't afford first class, but I'm going to go into the large family bathroom. It's like, all right, just let you know. There's a man on the street right now walking up to the all-gender toilet. I can hear the echo. Hello. Hey, Jason, I have a question, just a serious question. It's because I've noticed that I know you're liberal, and you were very conservative. What? What'd you say? I'm on individual freedom, so I'm very conservative. I'm fiscally conservative. I'm liberal. I go through each issue individually. I can't be a good group. I do each issue. But I have noticed a change with you since you've gone to Texas.

49:13 This is in a gagger joke. joke. I'm serious because similar happened with me. And I'm curious, is it you're waking up more to the nonsense? And or is it that you are surrounded by the type of people that you're surrounded by? Because when you lived in California, you're more in that bubble. Now you're in Texas. You're in a different kind of bubble. So what do you think the effect is on you? Okay, so I think I look at the bookends of my life, like a third of the time, first 30 years in New York, 20 years in California, now back to Texas. Texas and back to Texas. Were you from there originally? No, no. But I would say Texas today and Brooklyn in the 70s and 80s.

49:56 Kind of similar, you know? And the California stuff was like, California, when I got there, it was like very innovative and interesting. And then this woke bullshit kind of like became acute. And I was like, yeah, that's not for me. I will say, like, you know, in New York, in California, I owned a gun, but I couldn't carry a gun kind of thing. And I appreciate, I would say, probably I've gotten dragged into these discussions, which I never had to have as a tech guy or a media guy. You weren't expected to comment on these things. And now I comment on them. And then people are a little bit surprised when I'm like, listen, I'm a law and order guy. Well, guess what? I wasn't going to go to college. I was going into the New York police. I took the MYPD test with my brother.

50:38 He went in. I got accepted to Fordham at the last minute. I went there at night. I was going to be a cop. What year was that? 1988, 89. Yeah. Wait, Jason, where did you grow up? Brick Ridge, Brooklyn. Bray Ridge, Brooklyn. Long Island boy. Long Island boy. Where in Long Island? Out in Colmac. That's where I spent most of my days. Yeah, his last show, Selling Adam. I was in the Coast Guard at Jones Beach. Oh, that's right, Carol. I used to save the OBI, man. Save. Save the OBI boys. Yeah. Yeah, so I would consider you then more like a 90s Democrat. I mean, yeah, if you told me, like, you know, to pick the person you align with most, it probably would have been like, you know, Clinton or something, like balance the budget.

51:22 You know, if you want to have gay marriage, I'm not like super opposed to live and let live. You do what you wouldn't do on your ranch. I do what I want to do. And we don't need to talk about it, right? Kind of situation. It's kind of how like you live and let live in Brooklyn in Texas, what you do on your ranch, your business, what I do on my ranch. Just, you know, if the cattle come over the fence, you bring them back and you fix the fence together. I kind of like that aesthetic, but in California, it really went kind of wild just watching the number of homeless people, which were really just junkies. Watching that, you know, you're going to get kind of red-pilled. I watched all my friends get red-pilled by that, the taxes, and then just the outward contempt and hate of entrepreneurs and anybody who owned a business.

52:03 And it was like, we're in California. This was like the place where you started the business, Silicon Valley. And they're like, oh, you're a venture capitalist, you invest in business. Oh, you go start businesses? F you. Like, you're the problem. And you're like, what are you talking about? We employ 90% of the people here. Do you remember, Jason? It was weird. Do you remember when there was a moment, actually, I think before I went out to San Francisco to start Pod Show, when all the venture capital guys, they were like passing around Ayn Rand books and they were all super not libertarian. They were, you know, they were more like hunting and oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. And then Obama came into office and it was probably

52:45 Kleiner. What's his name? John Dore. John Dore. It was like the Ted Conference in John Dore, that whole constituent got vocal. Oh, man. And, you know, their wives were ranching llamas and alpaca and knitting alpaca wool. And then the one guy at Kleiner was Ray Lane, who came from Oracle, and he was hardcore Republican. And they gave him like an office on the other side of the building. Like, you go sit over there. I mean, don't those guys just go with the wind wherever it's going?

53:22 You know, this is when I was, when you played that clip earlier, I say business people play the game on the field when, and the ultimate weather vein to see this manifested is Mark Zuckerberg. Like, he was the first guy. Like, okay, we got to ban Trump. Yeah, Trump's going to tweet something again. It's going to be another January 6th. We got to give him a ban. And, you know, we got to donate to this cause, that cause, whatever. And then, oh. And cut to him water skiing with the American flag. Yeah. And his PR people are like, it would be great if like Dana, if Dana White was on your board and you were doing MMA and you had an American flag. So then he's like, okay, yeah, that's what I need to do to not be pulled in front of Carlos. You really think so? You really think that that's all PR?

54:03 He does so. Really? He does. Wall crafted. Really? I mean, how do you explain it? I mean, which one's the real one? Is he based or did he become a based like MAGA guy in three years? Well, you don't have to be. Two years later, you're at the White House, right? So it's a game on the field. No, it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be happening. Jason, what are you? Was it you that was talking about Andreessen? Was that you this week? Last week on all in? Was that somebody talking about this? Yeah. Yeah. So the idea that he does a flip-flop every four to eight years, right?

54:45 I mean, I think the whole notion of what is going on, the reality of thou get closer to them, get closer to that, and then the business that will spur off of it. And then that's just a lot of fun. Yeah, of course. But I think that's the new politics. I think it was just shocking for people, Andrew, that the tech industry would embrace Trump so quickly. And, you know, it was kind of like, if you're going to put Kamalama ding-dong into office and we're not in the middle of the day. Come along, what? Come along and ding-dong. I mean, she was so dumb. It was like, and there's no primary. People were looking at that and they're like, okay, this is idiotic. Jokings. Yeah. And then it's like, and this guy wants to invite you to the White House, wants to hear,

55:27 wants to bring MA back. People don't even think about what impact putting Lena Khan in, this 30-year-old who was like, I can predict which MA deals are going to result in less competition in the future. It's like, okay, pre-cog, like, this is like some, you know, weird concept to just adjudicate the law, balls and strikes is what the tech industry wanted. And Trump's like, yeah, absolutely. You guys want to buy companies and merge? That sounds great to me. Awesome. Yeah, let's go. Let's win. And then the deals. We got to do deals, deals. And I got to tell you, you know, for my business, the amount of MA activity going on now, mergers and acquisitions, like it's 100x during the Biden era. It's just, you know, it's for

56:13 Horowitz, where do you stand? You seem more liberal. A lot of people say that, by the way, I'm kind of right in the middle of the road. I am not liberal. I'm moderate. I would consider moderate, which I guess most people would say that, oh, that's liberal. But no, I'm totally, well, free enterprise, no question about that. Regulation to a degree, as long as, you know, because if you don't allow it in my industry, regulation, it just is going to go haywire. I've seen it. I've been doing this 40 years. In terms of the tech industry, I have no problem. Innovate, create, merge. As long as there's a betterment of it after the fact, fine.

56:49 If it's not, it crashes and burns. That's fine too. Yeah, well, there needs to be some regulation on everything within reason, but that's the point. It always ends up going way too far, way beyond. Yeah. I mean, and on the when you send your kids to school in California and they start asking them, like, what's your gender? And you're like, they're like, I'm six. And they're like, no, no, you're gender. And they're like, I'm six years old and I'm a girl. And they're like, are you sure? And it's like, guys, I didn't send them to the school to make a political statement, like just some history, some math. Can they have recess? They're like, yeah, well, they can't play tag anymore because somebody has to lose in tag.

57:31 I'm like, like life? Well, here's like when the tiger chases you and catches you, like that's the whole point of tag is to learn how to survive. Since we seem to have some form of very queer roundtable, I'm going to ask some questions. Hello. No, I meant queer, queer, queer. No, no, queer. By the way, you're all getting canceled. I'm no longer near the bathrooms, just to be clear. All right. Okay. So we look at France right now. We look at Italy. We look at Belgium. There's chaos. And my assessment is that this is because they've lost their national identity, love of country. And I've been talking to Tina about this a lot. Do we still have that? Can we bring that back in America?

58:14 Should we bring it back? Where are we headed? And the room fell silent. I have a lot of thought. I don't want to monopolize, but go ahead, Bernane. No, no, go ahead. I mean, I wasn't listening. Yeah, no, he's coming just hit. There's your title. There's a potential title for the show. The gummy just hit. 20 years ago, I heard Rupert Murdoch talk about unmitigated immigration to these countries. And you can only... And I was talking to Toby from Shopify last night at a party. Name dropped here. Hey, did you hear that, Adam? Oh, yes. Oh, you say, whatever, whatever.

58:59 He's like an incredible entrepreneur. He's like the great, you know, he's the Elon Musk of Canada, right? Like, he's got this incredible. incredible company, yada, yada. And like, they import, he told me that, like, the immigration was kind of not very thoughtful. And they got 35 million people is the denominator. And I think they brought in three or four million people in the last 10 years. It's not sustainable. And really, immigration should be a competition to get into the great countries of the world. But that's not my question. My question is. Well, that's why these cities are burning. Okay. That's why this is the same thing. Yeah, but the French issue is not. You gotta give immigration again, Adam. Okay, it's not just, it's the French. I mean, I see all the kids being interviewed by Nick Shirley and all these different people.

59:41 The question is: have we lost the love of country? Have we lost the idea that America is great? Yeah, and that's, I think, what Jason was getting at. It's from the immigration. They're coming here not to assimilate. They're coming here for the advantages and things that we provide to them, but they're not coming here for any love of the country. They're coming here wanting us to bend to them. Jason, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's all about immigration and having people come here, but doing it legally and for us bringing in the people that benefit the country and have love of the country.

1:00:22 100% correct. You don't need to have 10% of the country hate the country and be only there because of the services there are better than the services at their country. That's kind of what happened to Europe: they had this massive migration of people who have no connection to French culture, no connection to Italian culture. They're there because they want some free services. They want a better job. Okay, fair enough. But if you let too many of those people in, then it tips over. I think the United States, if you look at the average Mexican who came to the United States to work, they assimilated very nicely. They were very happy to be here. They became Americans within one generation, one and a half generations.

1:01:02 If you look at some of the other people who've integrated and they make their own community and then they never integrate, that's the challenge. But I think America could rebound. Yes. I think there are some people who believe in socialism right now. There's a generation that believes that doesn't believe in the American dream. And the reason they don't believe in the American dream is the three things I talk about all the time. They can't afford a home. The college education doesn't make sense. You spend $100,000, $200,000, $300,000, but you get a job for $50,000 or you can't get a job. And then obviously healthcare. And people are like, I'm just scared to get sick because I'm going to go bankrupt. Yeah, but there's so many alternatives that people aren't told about, like, you know, crowd health.

1:01:43 There's all kinds of alternatives to that that you actually can afford it. And also, everything you're talking about, Jason, is socialism. And that doesn't seem to be working out very well for France. It doesn't. And if you have too many people run to the socialism side, then it kind of mutes the capitalism side and you have less jobs. What you have to look at is the actual economic situation in the United States. And we have the lowest unemployment of our lifetimes for the people on the podcast who are 50 and above, which I think is all of us. And so the housing issue is the one that really opened my eyes. When I lived in New York, they consistently built some housing, you know, high rises, et cetera.

1:02:24 So it wasn't super painful. It came up once in a while. Then I moved to California and it was the overwhelming discussion for my 20 years in California: housing is out of control, housing is out of control. These limousine liberals would basically stop any development of anything. If you lived in Brentwood or Pacific Palisades, any of these places, you wanted to build four townhomes on a former lot with one home, they would fight you like they were fighting against the Nazi invasion, right? Like these liberals would just fight any new inventory. So the housing prices went crazy and everybody was suffering. Then I moved to Texas and they're like, here in Austin, we've had housing prices go down four years in a row.

1:03:07 Everybody's chill. Nobody talks about the price of homes. If you can't own a home, that breaks the American dream. If you feel that acute pressure, can't find a job, can't find a home, scared of healthcare. Then you look for another solution. And obviously the solution is free shit from the government. Problem with that is you have to charge 60% taxes like Denmark does or 55% like France. And once you do that, then the entrepreneurs are like, why am I going to work if I'm giving 60 cents on the dollar? I'm going to go find a place where I can't do that. But Adam, can I ask you something? Is the question really about the love of the country or is an understanding of what the country is, right? We have people come to the country. They don't understand what it is, what it's all about, what we've built up, what we've come from.

1:03:47 And it's not, you can't have the love until you have the understanding of what it is. And I think that's what's really lost in a lot of this. We become a country that we have the haves and then everybody else is getting just on for the ride. Well, good question. question. And I want to welcome to the chicken coop. We have a full set. Please say hello to Rob Dewser, Ducefer, and Matt Long, who have now joined us, gentlemen. Oh, we got the whole gang is in. Wow. It's a podcast orgy. Everybody's driving into dips, though, so I might be lost every now and then. Matt, you there? Yes, sir, I am in the morning. So happy to join you. So we're talking about the. I was told we had to be driving in our trucks while we were doing this. I'm not driving. I'm sitting still.

1:04:32 You misread. Or near a public bathroom. Somewhere near a public bathroom. Yeah, so we got J. Cal, Brunetti. J. Cal is in the bedroom. Brunetti is in the truck. Horowitz is in the airport. Doucefer is driving. Matt Long, where are you? I'm sitting in my office. All right. So we're talking about. It's a fucking storage container. No, not right now. Well, Matt, you're actually the guy to weigh in on this. Since this is a mess anyway on the show, we're just talking about stuff. Love of country, love of America. Clearly, France, UK. Well, the UK actually probably still has a hardcore love of their country, but that's failing.

1:05:13 Can we continue to be Americans the way in America that we grew up in? J. Cal says it's all related to housing. How about just love of country, Matt? What do you see? You are Mr. America, in my opinion. Well, I don't see love of country going away. I see it maybe shrinking to less people that feel that way. But the love of country that I see and the love of the state of Texas is overwhelming. And I think the rest of this is just noise. Docefer. By the way, he sounds like America. Well, yeah, Matt. Yeah, I was waiting for J Cal to do an imitation of his voice. Yeah, yes, sir.

1:05:57 Texas. Me, Texas. I wish I was in Dixie. Hooray. Hooray. Doce. I was in Dixie. Deuce. Hey. Doucefer. Ducefer. Let's talk about the importance of the media at this point, since you work in arguably one of the most influential alternative media outfits with Alex Jones. Mainstream media doesn't matter. Definitely not as much. And I could see the whole, with no agenda of where it's going in the future, it's going to change because are people really watching the media anymore? I think the only people watching it now are boomers older than you, Harry.

1:06:39 They're stuck to it. Wow, those old people. They're that old. People my age, I don't think, really watch the media anymore. I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched like the nightly news or anything like that. The only time I've watched the media is trying to put clips together when I'm hosting the show. Well, this is interesting. So the show is basically a boomer itself. Well, I've told you that that's why I'm so angry when I get on the show when I'm putting together clips because I'm then watching the news for the first time and watching this stuff to try to get clips. And it just roused me up. And I realized this is why I don't watch the news and why I love listening to the shows because you distilled it down. You were the condom for me. Right. And you do have to analyze it, though. You have to analyze what's being said out in the place.

1:07:23 So a lot of what is the news doing now? It's getting quotes from people. And that's mostly what we're analyzing. We're not analyzing what the broadcaster is saying as much anymore. It's what is Trump saying? What is Musk saying? What are all the... And I was actually listening to the show, Thursday show, with you and Bernetti. And y'all are deep into AI. And at one point, you go, we got to stop talking about AI because people are going to get bored. That's kind of where the news is just so full of itself and what they're pushing, which is blatant propaganda. People are tired of it. So they just tune out to it. I think more, even beyond tired of it for the reason that they're starting to be able to see it for what it is.

1:08:08 And because we have access to things like X and social media, that gives us a lot of different perspectives and not just what legacy media always told us. They're able to really start to see and read between the lines. But wouldn't you say that the agenda for all talking points, the way I see it is it's the clips. So something will be put out on X. It's a clip of someone saying something odd or stupid or great doing this. It still sets the agenda for the general message, doesn't it? I think it's less, I think it's less driven and it's more powered by

1:08:49 the citizens, for lack of a better word, the audience, as opposed to the guy in the control room. No, it's not. It's driven by algorithms. No way. Algorithms. Algorithms. Algorithms. I mean, look at my business, the financial business. For years, it's been people talking about their books. You know about this. I mean, they come on the show. What are they talking about? They're lying through their teeth about owning a stock or not. If the stock is down for some miracle, they sold it last week. If it's up, they bought it last week. You know, this is the same thing. I think people have realized this is not, this is not groundbreaking, what I'm about to say here. But, you know, we went from

1:09:25 news and we went through straight to opinion and then realized that you say whatever you want, you shape the audience, shape the psyche, and make money from it. Well, there's gambling going on there. This is very upsetting. Update, update, update. Here's the thing: this is probably why No Agenda carved an interesting niche for itself and resonated with a lot of people: is for our generation, we're the last generation, the Gen Xers, who had appointment and a strategy for like consuming the news. You would listen to the Sunday shows, you would read the newspaper in the morning. When you went to work, you had the newspaper on the train, whatever it was.

1:10:07 You watched the nightly news. You had a habit. And, you know, the majority of the country had a news consumption habit. And then when these algorithms come out, now it's okay, here's a bunch of videos, and they've been clipped to all heck. They're now being created and constructed in order to go viral. So the media has become fictional producers of clips. So they're working backwards from clips, just like the, you know, Johnny Carson was an appointment for people. Then now these nighttime shows are just clip machines. They're like, I'm going to make this clip that goes viral. Yeah, it's appointment viewing is dead, dead. And like everyone would sit down at 6 p.m.

1:10:51 to watch the nightly news, the local and then the national news. And the algorithm is so powerful that, you know, whatever you click on 1.5 times in whatever platform you're using, it's like, okay, let's give you the next thing now, that Robert Hood next thing. It's like, okay, now I'm listening to Alex Jones and a bunch of no agenda to Alex Jones. And now I believe I got the tinfoil hat on. And it literally just spirals you to the end state, whatever the end state is. If the end state is Nick Fuentes and anti-Semitism, you know, you start with like, oh, here's a reasonable criticism of the state of Israel and Netanyahu, and you won't wind up at Nick Fuentes. You're like, oh, wow, maybe there was something amiss on 9-11, or maybe there was some kind of conspiracy with COVID, and all of a sudden you're on Alex Jones.

1:11:34 You just immediately go to the end state because that increases listening. The only thing YouTube or any of the algorithms care about is did we extend the session time? That's literally what they're designed for. How do we extend this session? And then people get psychosis and their brains melt and they're doom scrolling all night. And that's why you need to accept Jesus, Dana. Amen. Amen. There it is. There it is. This kind of reminds me of the. Did you see the guy on X of a couple weeks ago who was complaining about X giving him all of the half-naked girls and girls in bikinis? Yeah, and he was like, bruh. What did you like? He was getting in trouble from his wife and he's like, I don't need to see this stuff.

1:12:15 I don't want to see this stuff. And Elon came along and was basically like, dude, it goes off of what you're looking at. The guy's like, oh, he just cell phoned. All I'm thinking is to credit Adam. I'm just thinking all these men with their shirts off on my algo. Adam was doing that in the group chat. He's like, I don't know why I'm seeing so many buff men. I don't think so. Why are we seeing so many buff men in your feed? They're very handsome men. So I think I never look at a man's butt, but I have to say, this is incredibly tired. Jason, I think you're still on the Zequila, man. Yeah. He's unbelievable. But you know, most of us have young kids, except Matt, I think.

1:12:57 We have kids. And, you know, kids just want to belong to something. And that is what I see as the biggest problem is what, and the algos play into this. It's like, you know, if you want, you're weird, you're awkward, you know, we all were when we were teenagers, and you want to belong somewhere, and whatever group is going to be nice to you, that's where this comes into play. And that was the hijack of our children: the LGBTQQIAP, you know, the socialism. They just want to belong, you know, and I obviously think there's an alternative, which, yes, Jason is Jesus.

1:13:37 And we're seeing more. Matt could probably talk about this because you track this stuff, Matt. And Matt is way into politics here in Texas. So who do you see showing up and where do they want to belong? You know, I think. I think you said kids want to belong, adults want to belong too. I don't think that changes. I think that's a desire that just goes through our life. And so that's kind of where I stand on that. All of us want to be a part of something. I don't think any of us want to just stand alone on the rock and shout at the world. And so, yeah, I'm always looking for people to go along with me. I don't want to be alone. I'll tell you something here. Comment from the Jew in the group.

1:14:21 Let's talk about this because I do have an opinion on this. It's very rarely heard from Horowitz, okay? All right, here we go. All right, everyone. Yeah, I do think that the destruction of organized religion, which I believe was the greatest invention of all time to corral the masses. And I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm truly saying it in a positive manner. But the lack of religion and the family unit religion that has pretty much disappeared or at least has degraded over the years is a big reason for the fact that people are longing to belong to something because they don't have it. If they were taught about this from the beginning and they had, whether it's Jesus or whether it's someone else or somebody or whatever it may be, that is a good

1:15:05 direction for the religion, for the base of what you do every day and how you believe in the basis of all the good that happens in life. I think a lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening as much. And I think, truly, sorry for all of you that have investments in social media. Social media is not doing any favors for this whole thing. No, definitely not. Definitely not. And the common denominator across Europe, with the exception of the UK, actually, with the Church of England, is that all the churches are pretty much, they've been burned down, they've been turned into WeWork, Airbnb, regular offices. It's completely gone in Europe. I know from first-hand experience, it's just gone.

1:15:48 It's not there anymore. So that is a take. I got to believe a lot of moss popping up. Well, and this is a problem. Absolutely. Because, oh, well, here's something I can believe. And look, everyone's peaceful and calm. And maybe I'll go hang out with these people. Well, yes. Yes. Matt? Well, I was just thinking the other day, someone between leaving the studio, leaving my shipping container, and letting the next crew in, I said something to the next person. I said, man, I'm all jacked up today. I'm all jacked up. And we'd had a local silliness happen that had gotten me all fired up.

1:16:27 And this person, this friend, looked at me and said, well, you need to get off the social media. And I have not been on social media ever since I got banned from FakeBook in 2020 for speaking truth about the COVID. And then I got myself in the X trap for a while. And I'm telling you, it burned my time like a vampire. And it took me a while to figure that out, but it sucked the time out of my life, all of it. So, no, I don't do any social media anymore. And that's not what gets me jacked up. It's what happens in the real world that gets me jacked up. You hear that, Brunetti? You're on X way too much.

1:17:10 Is this why you're always yelling at me to get off of X? Yes, you're such a productive man. You could be doing so much good for the world. All right. You've said this to me. Jason said this to me about that. I have all the time on my hands. I need to find. Let's workshop this. What is it that I'm supposed to be doing? Oh, I got it. Oh, I got it. I got it. Oh, no. What is it? Podcast, the movie. Did you see the whole thing designed already? Oh, no, I got this whole thing designed. Yeah, I got the poster board and stuff. I got the whole thing. We're doing this. It's kind of like Lego the movie, but podcasters, you know? So from the producer of the social network comes podcasts.

1:17:51 The movie. Congratulations. You figured out to have the lowest-grossing movie of all time. In the world, we're funny as movie. What would have the lowest ticket sales possible? It's literally the producers. How can we lose $10 million producing a movie to get a tax credit? Everybody keeps coming at me about how you got to go back. We need movies like you used to make. It's a different business. It's a different time. It's not going to happen. Curry, doing your movie and your documentary, that's easy. That'll be one and done, and we'll get it done. I'm just like, you keep saying I need to be more productive. How? What? I'm a steward of my land here. And maybe I figure out a way to, I don't know, generate something here.

1:18:35 I got to turn into a wildlife preserve like this. No, no, but I'm not saying you need to be productive for the world. I'm just a little concerned because my timeline, and I only have X on how. don't have any other social media. My timeline is literally filled with you and JCAL. That's all that it is. There's nothing. I'm a venture capitalist. It's my job to be on Twitter. Yeah. And by the way, how do you have a ramble rail? It's my job. I have nothing else that comes across my Twitter feed any longer, either, besides either JCAL giving away money, which I want in on, by the way. Or Bernetti or Bernetti doing something on Grokbot, which is like, you know, revolutionary. Hey, did you figure out? Hey, we have Jason on. We can ask him since he was like number three in Uber.

1:19:18 Uber works with Grokbot, but Lyft doesn't. Why is that, Jason? You know, anybody who I think the bot's a really good discussion because we showed that robot before, the Unitree. These bots are getting highly capable. And so anybody who has a service that you could shop around and get a better deal on is incredibly threatened. So if you own a bank, the banks this past week were like, oh my God, this is so unsafe. These bots, if you use these bots, they're going to drain your bank account. It's like, okay, no, no, no. It's read-only mode. It's just reading through it, looking for what you're subscribed to. It's read-only mode. You're not giving it access to like transfer money.

1:20:02 It's all through Plaid. So it's all through Plaid, which is a third-party service. It's super safe to just say, hey, unsubscribe me. Look at my email for my subscriptions, cross-reference. But it makes it super easy for customers to transfer. The next step is it says, hey, by the way, you're using Bank A. There's a neobank, these new banks, like New Bank, Mercury, whatever. And you would be saving based on your last 10 years with whatever bank, Legacy Bank, you were spending $300 a year on their fees and services. That's $3,000. If you use this bank, you would have actually made $3,000. Would you like me to switch you? You'd be like, yeah. And it's like, okay, it's switched to you. And now you go to Amazon, you say to Amazon, I towed my Amazon bot.

1:20:44 If you can find me a deal that's 20%. Hold on, hold on. You have a bot that still can connect to Amazon. It will connect. You can put it in a cart. And puts it in the cart. And it says, you want to send it to the ranch or the ski house? Do you want to put it on personal cart? I thought it was a beach. No, no, no. I never send stuff to the beach house. I never send it to the corridor. I send it to the estate manager who lives next to the beach house. And then do you want it at the FBO for the plane? And do you want to put it on the plane anyway? There's like six different stories. I'm just trying to simplify for the storytelling. Anyway, I tell it, if you can find this watch at one of my trusted dealers, friends.

1:21:25 I just told it, if you could find something for 20% less, give me the option or whatever. Just make sure I'm not getting ripped off. I don't mind Amazon charging me 10% more for the convenience and everything in one place, but I don't want to get price gouged. And it did this for me where I wanted this anchor device. And it's like, by the way, if you're a first-time buyer on Anchor, they give you 20% off. And this is a $400 device. So that'd be $80 and their shipping's the same. And I was like, sure, buy it there. You have my credit card, whatever. I tease it all up. I buy it direct from them. And it's like, yeah, you're a first-time buyer. I'm like, wait a second. Can I be a first-time buyer all the time? So Uber is a technology company. They understand if they make the API available, you still have to have your credentials.

1:22:08 So if you have your credentials and you go to Uber, they have the best network. They have the most liquidity, which is the shortest wait times. People are always going to use Uber. People are always going to use DoorDash. Why? They have the most liquidity. DoorDash has the most restaurants. Uber has the most drivers. They're not going to lose their products. Amazon has the most product. But Jason, when I was logging in, aren't I going in essentially in my own instance through the Grokbot to log in? Not to be able to do it. Here's the difference. No, no. They can go through the API or they can go through what's called a virtual machine, which is like, here's your little popped-up, essentially, here's your little machine that you log into. They know at Amazon, they're sophisticated enough to know that's the IP addresses, and that's the browser signature of a Grokbot.

1:22:51 The only way to get around that is to have your Grokbot, your Claude code, whatever, use your desktop so it really looks like you. And that's what we'll eventually get to. Adam's talked about it a lot. I've talked about it a lot. You'll have a local model. Your agent will be running on your local computer when your local computer gets to 128 to 256 gigs of RAM. And then it's game over for everybody because you'll do sovereignty. Can't you do that now, though, with Grokbot or these models when you give them screen access? Yes, you can. Yeah, they don't all support it yet because it's too dangerous. There's a lot of liability issues. So they use their own. Grokbot can control my computer. Not the virtual computer, but my actual computer. Is that Rob Dew getting in his car?

1:23:37 Jesus. Somebody's getting out of the keys. Getting out of that car. We lost Matt Long and Rob. Matt's guy. Well, no, Matt. No, Matt actually is a new Muse guy, I think, aren't you, Matt? Yes, I am, and I love it. And it has saved me a tremendous amount of time. Prepared a speech for me that I have to deliver in a couple of weeks. And I've just had to gone through it and give a good speech, Matt. At the Bandera Veterans, yeah, not the rodeo on the Veterans Parade in Bandera. And I have the keynote speech on the courthouse lawn, and then I'll be the whoever rides in the front trailer in the parade, whatever they are.

1:24:21 What are these vets? What wars did they? These are like old vets, these are young vets. All vets? All wars? Yeah, all vets. What's the topic of your speech? Vets or animal doctors? Animal doctors or veterans. Veterans. What's the topic, Matt? What are you going to deliver in your keynote to these vets? What's the speech? The keynote, the keynote is from Ben Franklin, and I am getting a horrible echo. The keynote is from Ben Franklin, and it's his look at how he dealt with veterans and the fighters and how he raised money. And even though he was a Quaker and didn't believe in bearing arms, what he did for those who did bear arms.

1:25:03 And that was... Welcome, everybody, today to our capital. My name is Matt Long, and I would like to let you know that Benjamin Franklin said, Well done is better than well said. But today I'm going to try to achieve both. Goodness gracious. Now, dost thou love life? Then do not squander your time. Well, that is the stuff that life is made of. Mercury, I'm not your talents. They for use were made. Oh, we're totally off the rails now. I know this Ben Franklin people get really weird. You got merch? You got Ben Franklin as revival merch or anything? Bro, have you seen this dude?

1:25:45 His photo? He looks exactly like Ben Franklin. It's uncanny. I do have a bobblehead that was custom made for me by my wife. So I have my own. Was it just a Ben Franklin bobblehead that she gave me and said she had made for you? Oh, yeah, but she's my picture. In fact, when they were working on it, she had to remove the tattoo on my ring finger because she didn't want it showing up on the bobblehead. How do you get your microphone to actually broadcast in half speed? Are you hearing him? It's a joke. Well, here's what happens.

1:26:27 Great question. I have an AI, so when I speak at regular speed, hey, Matt, Matt, Matt, tell us more about Muse. What did it write? What did it do for you that you couldn't have done? It did a lot of searches that would have taken me a long time. I put in, oh, I'm trying to think of an example, but I was looking for a faucet for one of our group homes for folks with disabilities. And I put in all the requirements, and Muse came up with some good options.

1:27:07 All right. This is a great question, Brunetti. I had a leak in my outdoor sink by my smoker, and I went under the sink. I took a picture. I gave it to Muse right then. It did it. Oh, my God. Rough. That was so great. I guess we know who everybody's going. This is the great thing, Matt. You never have to worry about a Halloween outfit. You know you're going as Ben Franklin. It's just defaulted. I can tell you what, though, if it ever comes to where we've got to live off the land, well, they're out by you, so you're lucky there. You don't have to worry about you got Rob Dew. Oh, yeah, Matt that will come out and take off.

1:27:48 I'm taking Matt as my, like, yeah, he'll be my, he'll start the new legal democracy system over there we go at the J Ranch. Hey, did was something like that happening there? We have Seda Jefferson where I live. Seda who? Nothing, nothing like that here. Do you know, do you know about the state of the fire union? Hold on. Hold on. Wait, what is going on? Doceford. Doceford's coming in. Yeah, Texas has talked about seceding several. Is he in the room with you? No, no, no. He's still in the truck. Go ahead. What's going on? I'm in the office. I'm on AirPods. Does it not sound good? No. No. Incredibly professional, bro. Incredibly professional. It's worse than me.

1:28:30 I mean, listen, I got the first time. I'm on speakerphone. Is that okay? Jason, I don't understand how you can be so quiet during the all-in pod, but you literally, it's like you just. You're the moderator here. Here, I'm a guest. The thing is, Jason's a lot smarter than all of us, but he's not as smart as all those other guys. Oh, that's what it is. Okay, yeah, that's why that's why he said this is the all-in pod for losers. He's the smartest guy in the room. I said this. Hey, speaking of charge maxing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, speaking of smartest guy in the room and X, I see Gibney is coming after you. Who? Alex Gibney, the guy who directed Musk, the Dr.

1:29:13 Documentarian. He's just bitter, like Karen Smisher is. The interesting thing is like this Nathan Fielder, who is like a true talent. I think you would agree, Bernetti. And I think this film is the top three documentary of all time. I'll ask Bernetti because he's an expert here. But for me, it's like Grizzly Man, Hoop Dreams, and you can see everything. Those are my top three docs of all time. But Gibney was an accomplished documentary film. He now made a half million dollars off of his best documentary. Let me finish. You're 100% right. He got TDS and EDS. And unfortunately, it's now hurting him because he's now

1:29:59 the Enron movie, Smartest Guys in a Room, which I thought was really good. That was a good movie. That was great. He did exceptional. And then he did a couple others, but with this one, it's four hours to begin with. It clearly was a total hit piece. And now he just seems a bit deranged and is going kind of nuts on Twitter. And it was just pulled out of the theaters. It only made a half a million dollars. And he kind of seems to be losing his shit a little bit. Well, this is what I'm talking about because you guys are interacting with him on X. You're actually platforming him with the movie. Yeah, but you have 40,000 followers. So? But that's nothing.

1:30:40 True. You're no disco. I posted a picture, a live picture of me in the airport next to the all-gender bathroom on X Just Now, by the way, just seriously. So you want to take a look at that. We got steers and queers and then no gender bathrooms. I can't make it up to you. Dude, I'm afraid Horowitz. Man, you got to lay off the GLP1, man. You got O-Face. This is not good. That's not what's happening. I'm working out five days a week, my friend. Hey, are you in LA? Don't need me. Wait, and Jay Cal, where are you? I'm in Hill Country at the ranch. Oh, I thought for what you said, where were you hanging out with Toby?

1:31:23 It's F1 weekend in Austin. So he came to F1. I thought you were out here. I was going to say, we should all get together up here on the ranch. Is the race today? The race is today. I got invited by like 17 people, but man, it is a S show getting in. How many people did you get invited by, Adam? I love that. I got invited by like 17 people. You know, the thing with Formula One, it's always on a Sunday. And every year, the Dutch helicopter detachment from Fort Hood always invites me to fly with them in the Chinooks to do the flyover. And I've never been able to do it. The Chinooks, the Chinooks. The Chinooks, man. Never been able to do it. Helicopter. The only way to do it is the one with the two rotors, which famously,

1:32:07 the Pan Am building had the ability to land these in the 50s and 60s into the 70s. And you could get a ride. You'd go to the Pan Am Club. Then you would, if you're for business class or whatever, first class, then you go to the roof of the Pan America building, and they would take you to JFK in a Chinook. And then one time, you probably know about this aviation disaster, it landed and the strut broke. It flips over, it kills three people waiting to get on the thing. And it's like, why are these people on the roof? They should be downstairs until the, you know, all clear is given. Anyway, and then a blade goes off the building and kills somebody in the street. After that, no more helicopters in Manhattan. Game over. You can do it at like three heliports, right, Adam?

1:32:51 Yes. Yeah, with the rivers. Yeah, but this is you can't land on buildings. This is going to happen with the EV talls, too. There's going to be so many people dying in these things. We're all all jacked up about, oh, yeah, we'll go to the airport. It's going to be a little bit more. You got to break it down. EV tolls, you mean the flying cars? EV tolls. Vertical takeoff and landing. Look up Joby. Look up Archer. Essentially, like your quadcopter or your drone. Imagine that human size. You can fit two people, four people, six people, basically. And it has like eight rotors. Actually, they'll be much safer than helicopters. Oh, please. You lose a rotor or two. Bull crown. Why do we need that? Bull crime. Why do we need that? Don't we have the Tesla car and the flying car? What are you talking about?

1:33:34 That flies for 12 seconds. It'll lay out a second every year, but it's not going to take you from Manhattan to JFK. No. But these will be coming. This is the hopping car. It's the hopping car. It doesn't. That's exactly what it is. It's a preview of where we'll be in the scene of flying and hop. Well, yeah, I heard this last week. Yeah. But anyway, I think here's the thing about Gidney. And Kevin. Are you the guy on You Are On X? You're the guy hassling me on X about the definition of flying and hop. Probably so. My Grockbop blocked Matt Long a long time ago. It was just way too much. Homo erotic replies. Dude, it has a

1:34:20 homoerotic. Jason, the only person talking about gay stuff is you. I just want to point that out. I am by the all-gender bathroom. All gender bathrooms. I'm not the guy in Stall 14. Anyway, he brought this thing from Stall 14. He who smells it is who dealt it. So that's pretty easy. We know where that's coming from. By the way, did Ben Franklin say that, actually? Yeah, I think he did. He did write a whole story up on farting and actually had this idea that we might be able to change the smell of our farts with the proper eating. And he used to feel into the filter.

1:35:05 I didn't know Ben Franklin was into flatulence. Continue. You really know a lot about Ben Franklin if this is real. Oh, yeah. This is absolutely real. So anyway, he took the idea that when you eat asparagus and your pea smells like asparagus, he figured there ought to be something we can eat that would do the same thing for our poop. He never did find anything. But boo. There you go. Why is Asparago working on this? This asparagus thing. You guys know the stats on the asparagus thing, right? Yeah, like 50% of the people smell it and don't smell it. I have friends. Here's a crazy story. I have friends that you go out to dinner with them on a Saturday evening. These are, I guess, they just do it on Saturday nights after they get home.

1:35:48 It's their sexy time night. And she is forbidden from eating asparagus on a Saturday evening. I'm going to go ahead. I'm calling it auto. I'm calling it Audible Air Adam. Yes, please do. We're stopping the asparagus discussion. But I will say, a letter to the Royal Academy was written by Penn, in fact, by Ben Franklin. And it's commonly referred to as a letter to the Royal Academy about farting. Or fart proudly. The name of the essay about flatulence in 1781. They had flatulence even back then. This is extraordinary. It's universally well known that in digesting our common food, there is created or produced in the bowels of human creatures a great quantity of wind.

1:36:35 I mean, so eloquent. He doesn't even seem like he's talking about farting. You stop the asparagus discussion for that? Yeah, right. I'm just putting any of this. We got to move on to the next media deconstruction. Immediate take control of this. This is Wheeler. We lost Rob Dana. He's the only classy one. This is probably a good moment to let everybody know that this coming Thursday, so this is the 19th anniversary of No Agenda, 19 years, 18 and a half of which were with JCD. Unfortunately, he didn't get to finish it out. Thursday will be the last, not just my last episode, but it will be the last episode of No Agenda.

1:37:18 I've been in long discussions, some degree negotiations with the Dvorak family, and we have all collectively agreed that the show is not the show without John and Adam. And I have to agree. It's a perfect example. This show. Well, this is, yes, this is quite a good example. And after that, the Dvoraks actually are going to produce a new show, which will be Party Line. And they have a whole format, and they've been working on that. Partylineshow.com, I think, is the website. I will continue with We Get to Do This. We're actually resurrecting Curry and the Keeper.

1:38:02 And so I think the troll room will stay for a long time. That's up to void zero. But I want everyone to know that the show actually will be stopping. Wait, how's the troll room going to work, though? It's going to continue on just as an open room for those shows. Maybe for the. It was an open room. room before we even started using it as the troll room. So it's always been there, and I don't think that'll close. So you can always go to the troll room. And of course, there's the stream. I think that will continue. We have to talk about some heart, some infrastructure stuff.

1:38:41 But we decided that's probably the best. So we don't. To quote you, Brunetti, it's like the last thing we want is Noah Gen to become something like the Scott Adams school of whatever it was with all the. Hold on, take us behind the negotiation here because as best you can. Oh, here we go. What is going on in this negotiation? Did they want the brand name and you said no? Did you both agree, be honest? Like, because the No Agenda would start them on third base and maybe you just gift it to them or they do an earn out or something. Did that come up as a possible option? We talked about a lot of that. And, you know, the bottom line is it was a, it's a 50, there's a business agreement.

1:39:25 There's an LLC. It's 50-50, John and Adam. And of course, you know, Mimi is the successor to his share. And the problem with a show like this is if I said, okay, Rob Dew, let's you be the new John. Well, you know, in fact, he would literally be the crackpot and I would be the buzzkill in his case. But I would never be able to give him 50%. And neither the Dvoraks or the Curries have enough money to buy the other one out. I mean, for any promise. Let me get in here as a dealmaker.

1:40:00 Okay. I'm going to make the assets, since they're going away, I'm going to put a value of $100,000 on them and give the family the asset on a four-year earnout every month. $2,000 in the donations go to you or whatever they want, 10%, 20% until that's paid off. And then they own 100% of the asset. But the asset sticks around. But they don't really want to do a Noah James show. All right, well, then in that case, it's got to be a good idea. What they're going to do is it's going to be a new format. Fair enough. That's going to be different. I hear it's created by Dana Brunetti. Exactly. Produced by Brunetti. It is. Okay, Brunetti. Wait a second. You got your pause in this?

1:40:45 Yes. Apparently, the idea came up from a conversation. It's becoming a tell-all now. Wait a second. Hold on. Let me see how I can spice this up. No, John and I talked about doing a we talked many times when I was on Gummies about potentially doing a podcast because the conversations were kind of like this, where it was just like, what? And then he came around and said, he said, no, he said, this would be great. Don't say anymore. We've got to do this on a podcast, right? No, because we didn't do a podcast. No, no, but in your private conversation, that's how I got the show with John. We spend an hour a week talking on this. It's all convoluted. And then all of a sudden, Brunetti went behind Adam's back to do a show with JC D. And Adam went behind JC D's back to do a show with Pastor Jim.

1:41:31 And then the family is doing a show with the ghost of Scott Adams. Why don't we just take everybody who dies, make an AI out of them, and put them on a show together. Play the clip of this interview between the... That's not a bad idea. I sent you a podcast. So John and I always talk about doing this, but neither one of us were ever. We talk about, there was one day we talked about the wine idiot because he was going to tell me a bottle of wine to get. And then he and then I would talk about it like the idiot. And then he would tell me how I was an idiot and give me all those details on the wine. And then that was never going to happen. That was never going to happen. John, how did you hold up? How did you feel when Bernetti went behind your back and then tried to steal your co-host?

1:42:12 No. How did you actually feel? How did you feel? No, that might have been done by Andrew. And Lew already stolen his own. No, hold on. Listen, this is the problem with John. Because it's a problem. Throughout the years, I came up with many good, solid ideas. The best one, well, we had two. The podcast awards, because I'm uniquely qualified to be the face of a real podcast awards. We're still doing that. The microphone. It's an incredible MC. The microphone company. This is the one that I'm actually kind of irked about because he sent me a mic that came from, I'm using it right now, that came from China.

1:42:55 And because, you know, here's all the freshmen you can get. It's all about the cap. It's all about the cap, the capsule. And it's true. This is in Shenzhen. It's as good as anything made on this. And I looked at the numbers and said, you know, this could be a business because we could sell the Curry One microphone for $120. There'd be enough margin. $2,500. No, no, no. That would be the Curry 10 signature microphone. model. Yes, Jason. Okay, here we go. Now we're going up scale. This is a good product. It's, I mean, it's perfect. And he could, and he's doing it. So I get 20% for a wait a second. You're going rogue, Adam? There's a problem with the show. Ever since you got into Christ, you're going rogue, okay?

1:43:39 Bernetti, we got to box out Adam because everything with him is just Christ forward stuff. And that doesn't fly with the audience. This audience wants media deconstruction and conspiracy theories and to dunk on the Mac people. That's what we got to get back to May Shit. And Adam is trying to get 80% of the royalties on this goddamn microphone. Were you guys in a standoff? What was going on? Tell the truth here. It's the end of the end of the link. No, there was no. It was just a discussion. There was no conflict. No. Oh, no. With me, John and I? No. The only reason we had an LLC is because the IRS said, what is it with all these checks, you guys? You guys are getting $888.88 from this guy, Jay Cow, which was in the Middle East.

1:44:21 What's up with the checks? What's going on here? So that was the problem, but we had a handshake deal. I never, never asked for numbers. I never said, hey, let's do an audit because John did everything. He did all the money and the newsletter, and I did all the production. That was the deal. And it didn't matter how he did his part or I did my part. We both delivered. And that was it. Dude, we literally never talked except on the show. Never. That's incredible. It was like on air or non-existent. It was part of our relationship. It's part of what it's worked. I agree. Yes. It's critical. But we both wanted that. So anyway, so really, there is no just- Who's the Yoko-Ono in this?

1:45:03 No, this is. Is Brunetti your Yoko Ono? Is Brunetti the Yoko? No, I'm Sean. I'm Sean Lennon. No, no. It was really difficult because, well, for two reasons. One, just like Horowitz, just like Brunetti, John and I didn't set out to do a podcast. We were talking for months on Skype when I was in London. And, you know, he would read the Sunday Times. I would read The Times of London. And we would just be talking about it and concluding stories. When you say you would read those, you would read them to each other. Yeah, we were talking about, oh, here's what they're reporting here.

1:45:44 Oh, that's interesting. The story here is that, and the internet was, it was obviously there, but still it was more proposal. May I make a proposal? This proposal number two. Please. Okay, here's my idea. I sent you the AI Scott Adams. Did you? I did. Adam. This is critical. Interesting. Okay. Let me see. Scott, I was on Scott Adams' show once. Scott and I had a little like. Yeah, it was about the January Sixers, right? Yeah, yeah. He tried to convince me because he's very convincing that like the January 6 people were there on a peaceful mission despite like beating cops. Anyway, we had a lot of fun with it. We had great discussions. And I really admired Scott, obviously, for his work.

1:46:26 And then as a broadcaster, you couldn't help but admire the guy doing 365, 7 a.m. He never missed a show. It was every single day. He became a great broadcaster. Now, he had said at one point, I want to be preserved as an AI and I want to keep doing the show when I'm gone. And I thought, wow, this is a very interesting concept. So some fans made this AI coffee with Scott Adams. It's at AI Scott Adams. And the people who are really good. And, well, here's the thing. I sometimes miss Scott Adams at 7 a.m. because I would be somewhere in the world. I'd get the alert. I'd listen to it. He always had an interesting take. I didn't listen to it every day, but it was, you know, he always had a good take.

1:47:08 And so now the family's like, but then he kind of rescinded that he wanted that. And the people who do this like Scott Adams school, which, you know, God love him, whatever. It's awesome. But it's not, it doesn't hit like Scott Adams did. And people miss him. They're very upset at me because I retweeted it or I had the guy on who makes it. They're doing it as a nonprofit experiment to see, like, and they believe as fans of Scott Adams that they should keep doing this. I think doing a new, having two AIs, play the two of you every week and doing an AI slot version of it would be exactly what JCD wants. He would think it's hilarious. And then just, you guys just collect the money on it, do the value for value, and just see if AI can redo this.

1:47:50 You can have your boss write everything and pull all of it. It's hilarious. It would be hilarious. And then I believe John C. Dvorak would think it's hilarious that a whole nother generation of people listened to him in the afterlife as an AI. He would think that was fun, I think. And I think Scott Adams would love AI Scott Adams. Now, they're going to get a lot of fun. Yeah, the family doesn't agree, though. They don't agree, which I understand. I have sympathy for them. And they make it to. I think they get to make the decision, obviously. But how about this? How about this? Okay. Why don't we take a bathroom break? I'm going to play the squeaky chair because everyone has been talking about it for the past two hours. Then we'll come back and we'll say our goodbyes. And then I'll bring

1:48:33 Tina. I'll bring Tina in. It's Horowitz in the bathroom. All right. I'm actually on the plane, guys. I got to go. I'm taking off. Thank you so much for the opportunity here to do whatever we just played. Thank you very much. Whatever this was. Whatever this was. Jason, read your email. I'd like to get you back on the show. Your last time on the Invested Podcast in 2008 was the last appearance. And will you please, Andrew, stop doing that thing with the nuts and you shake them and then you pop them in. Join Andrew. It's very annoying. It's wonderful. Guys, love you. Thank you very much. I love you too, Andrew. I'll see you on Thursday. All right, everybody. Stand by. We'll be right back. In the morning.

1:49:25 I took into hear the best media deconstruction while the Vorass Chair gently squeaks. Stories of lies and of worldwide destruction while the Vorax chair gently squeaks. I don't know why nobody told him

1:50:08 how to crease that thing. And I recall one had to scold him. Now who controls him? I look at the world and I can see it is burning while the Vorax chair gently squeaks.

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1:51:51 that thing? And if you mention it then he'll start to whore it He can make it singing I look at the world and see the people sleeping While the Vorax chair gently squeeze No chanda is needed To keep the lies

1:52:34 from creeping Still the Vorax chair gently squeeze Still the Vorax chair gently squeeze Squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak Sweet!

1:53:43 Well, since everything's off the rails anyway, we might as well welcome in Tina the Keeper. Hey, who's all on now? We got J Cal, we got Brunetti, we got Matt Long, Ser Ducifer, Horowitz has just taken off. He was on the plane. He's on a plane. The whole gang is here. Gang's all here. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, so. How have you done anything? Hey, Tina, how are you? I'm doing well. Have you done any media deconstruction? Zero. Zero. Zero. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Jason, did you just send me $420? I just sent you 420. I said, Adam, 888. What? 88.

1:54:27 Give it to Jason. Split at 50-50. How does this work, Jason? Do you just have unlimited money and you just okay? Here's what's happening. He's got a Somali daycare. You wouldn't believe it. I'm running 12 Somali daycares and I got 12 cookaroos, too. No, here's what's happening. These crypto guys created like a Jason Coin or something like years ago. Am I going to have to pay tax on this? Yeah, I have no idea how this works. I think if it's under $700, it's a gift. It's a gift I get. Yeah, it's a gift. It's a gift. And then every month I get like, I don't know, $5,000 to $15,000 in revenue share from

1:55:06 the, because I have a lot of followers on my Twitter. They have this ad share, like an advertising share they do, creator program that I'm in. And so every month, like $5,000, $10,000 shows up from this crypto project, $5,000, $10,000 shows up with this. And I'm just like, I just give it away on Twitter when I'm talking about it. Is the idea that if because of its fraud, you're not going to, you're going to be like, I give it away. I don't want this money. I'm giving it away. I mean, I'm going to have to pay taxes on it as well. But then I just give random money to like high-profile people because I think it's funny. So I just gave the guy like from Entourage Doug Allen. Not Doug Allen, Jeremy Pivot. Adrian. I did Jeremy Pitt with Adrian, actually. But I just said Philly David. There we go. I mean, it is what it is, guys. I mean, I also know John C. Dvorak. And Adam Curry.

1:55:51 Here's a problem with Jay Cal. He's just with our life and it's kind of weird baunting pattern. Here's the thing. Jason Bernetti. Jason has just dominated this whole two hours. He can't be quiet. I'm high among goodness. Can we make an answer? Hold on, Matt Long. Matt Long has something to say. It might be poor form, but I want to go back and tell Mr. Brunetti that all of these Yahoos on here are jealous and envious. And everything that all of us are working towards a ranch with horses. And well, I wouldn't put mine in Southern California or wherever you are. You're in Southern California.

1:56:34 Oh, you're not. Okay. I'm in California, though, but I'm in Northern California. I'm in a very conservative area. Okay, but I'm telling you, you do, man, you got the life there, Mr. Brunetti. Don't let anybody give you any flack for that. And you enjoy it. You deserve it. Even though I've never seen any of your dirty movies, I think you have a good guy to cover. I haven't seen any of your Satan-loving trans content, Bernetti. And I'm not making any judgments on this homosexual characters. And you would call that guy who reached for Jason Shuttle. So if he reached for it with you,

1:57:19 Matt, I appreciate it, but you're missing out. Check them out. You know, don't watch the, you don't have to watch the 50 Shades one, but the others are pretty good. I did. You've probably seen some of my movies. Just don't realize it. Oh, I have. I actually have. But Shades of Gray is the only one. No, that's not on my list. You're going straight to hell, Bernetti. No, Adam. Apparently, Adam and you are going to save me and prevent that. Matt and Matt were going in on that too. Absolutely. Well, Matt and I, we have a plan. We just want to bring Brunetti into the kingdom and have him produce a whole bunch of great movies. There's this book I hear I can option. And there's a whole Bible? Yeah, exactly.

1:58:03 It's public dope. domain. I've heard of it. There's some pretty good stories in there. We can make some movies out of them. Everyone else seems to be doing it. And they're being successful at it these days. That's what's so exciting that Christian movies are actually coming out and they're high quality and they're being successful. And man, that's a great place to be. Yeah. You hear that, Brunetti? You heard it from me? If we can do it, and I don't have to have meetings with they, thems, and boxes and make it all about. I might reignite my fire. My pronouns are Jesus and Christ.

1:58:48 Hey, actually, no, Jason, we are going to start our AI studio, me, you, and Adam. Oh. What? You are? What are we doing? We got another thing going? Yeah, yeah. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Well, the whole idea was we would rope J Cal in to bring in Elon's secret AI that he has. He's going to be the dealmaker in this. Yeah, so that we could then create Christian movies with AI. No, I didn't know that. I thought actually Katzenberg is who you need to talk to. Katzenberg's got the new AI studio. We don't want any part of the wise. Is there going to be another Quibi, though? Yeah, Quibby, exactly. We don't want to.

1:59:30 No, I think it could be a Lion King, the most profitable movie of all time. But he's doing, it's animated that he's doing, right? He's going to do an animation studio like he did with Dreamworks. Listen, the whole. Me and Adam have Scaramonga. Okay. So here's the idea. Scott Adams, AI Scott Adams is Jesus. AI JCD is Moses. I'm telling you, it'd be fantastic. You don't like that plan? No. Hey, Ducefer, unmute and get in here before I kick everybody off. He's left. No, he's still here. He's here. I know, but he's here, but he's not.

2:00:11 No, he's like muting and unmuting. Man, once he turned off the AirPods, he doesn't know how to hook it up. It's not working. I have to say, I really enjoyed meeting Sir Ducefer, quite a handsome fella. I didn't get to meet his wife, but I made sure my wife stayed away from him. He was all right. Let's do some parting words from everybody. And then Tina has been kind enough to join me to go through copious notes which people sent in for this 19th anniversary, which are really quite lovely.

2:00:47 But for me to do all the notes and get the jingles and everything all set up, it's kind of like I literally was on my knees on Thursday coming out of the studio. Tina is your bot today. Yeah. Well, a bot? No, I'm real. No, she's rich. Yeah, last time I said you could have a bot help you do this. Yes. No, I got the reality. Your memory is going, Adam. I draw the line with these bots, man. We all saw Jack Dorsey's talking AI. I think that's one of the worst things he could have put in the marketplace, if he ever does. I think it's a horrible idea. Okay, are we going to get to some clips? No, we're not.

2:01:34 Wow. No. J Cal, J. Calf, final word from you. JCD was an inspiration, all seriousness. I know he broke my chops or whatever. But when I was a kid, I would run home to rip open PC Magazine and I would go right to JCD's column. And he really set a standard in podcasting. And as an opinion columnist, that many generations of tech writers and commentators were inspired by. And, you know, it did hit me when he passed, like many of us in the community.

2:02:13 And it's been an honor to come on the program and remember him and break some chops. And it's all in great fun. What a great community you guys built. And my final pitch, I'm going to three pitches deep here. Here's what I think. Value for value is also a huge innovation that you created, Adam. I think just for the fans, you should set it up that everybody can still donate because you got JCD's family, everything. It's good. And Adam could use a little extra chatter on the margins. I think you should just set it up. Every 10K in donations that come in, you just do an ad hoc show and you just leave the thing up. The counter's there. If the fans want to hear another show, when it hits 10,000, you can't.

2:02:55 I think that's a cool idea. We could all jump in and do something. Maybe not. And then it just goes to the last. legacy or whatever. You guys chop it up. It's like we all want to see it kind of, you know, we don't want to see it go away 100%. We understand people got to go do their other projects. But I should note that we will continue to honor people who want to finish their knighthoods. Rings will go out. JCD challenge coins will still go out. We're going to honor all that for as long as people want. So we're going to keep that going. Hey, send me a coin, will you, Adam? Send me a coin. Come pick it up. Come pick it up. I'll come to Old Man Chess. Come pick it up. Come to Bridge Church on Sunday. I'll give it to you. I'd love to. I haven't been to church in a while. I'd love to come.

2:03:37 Yeah. Well, we'll be waiting for you. Come as you are. We'll be waiting for you. That's every church. It says, come as you are. It'll be fun. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, Brunetti. What are we doing? Tip of the day or this year in history. No, we're just like, this is you can. Just trying to get you to hang up. Yeah, this is the goal. Goodbye. This is the goodbye. Goodbye. This is the hook. You got the hook. Okay. Well, you want to say anything? Oh, thanks for everything. It's been eye-opening. It was good chatting with everybody. This was fun doing it with everybody. I really respect everybody that's on this call right now and everybody that's been involved in the show.

2:04:17 Definitely people that in my previous circles wouldn't have ever interacted with, but these are you guys are more my people. So it's been a blast. And the No Agenda community is awesome. I'd love interacting with them on X. I know you think that I probably shouldn't. I'm crazy that I spent too much time on there, but they are really good people. A lot of them are kind of crazy, but crazy's good. And I appreciate you guys letting me be a part of this. Matt Long. Man, this has been great. It's been a real honor. I've only found out about No Agenda. Adam hit me in the mouth only three years ago, and I haven't missed a show since then.

2:05:02 And I'm going to really miss it. And so I just want to thank all of y'all for all the years y'all put into it. And thank you for welcoming me in at the last minute. Thank you, brother. Doocifer disconnected. So, well, we know that we know he was a fan of the show and also contributed a lot in these past few months. Hey, gentlemen, thank you all so much. We might do this again. I don't know why, but it was as train wrecky as it was, it was kind of fun. I have to do it today. Yeah, I know you were. I'm here. I got nothing else to do. I got nothing but time.

2:05:40 I got to work out this six-picture deal. And now that I'm free, I'm doing the Adam Curry story and I'm doing the JCD animated anime series on Disney Plus. All right, everybody. Thank you so much. I love you guys. And Tina and I will be right back with the donations and your lovely notes after this. We'll be right back. You lost the kettle on a quarter past two. A blue cup cooling by the window. I asked the neighbor what he knew. He folded the paper, said he didn't know.

2:06:22 Every answer changes shame. Every doorway keeps its name. Nobody knows nothing. That's what everybody says. And it's clean, eyes are open. Still the rule won't rest. Nobody knows nothing. If there's a truth beneath the table, nobody's letting it in. Maybe silence is a witness. Maybe fear can learn a grand

2:07:20 footstep, every promise, every secret they won't tell. Nobody knows nothing if there's a truth beneath the table. I can feel it breathing in. Rocket Boy333, thank you very much. very much. And thank you to our esteemed guests who showed up here today: Jason Calacanis, Dana Brunetti,

2:08:03 Matt Long, Andrew Horowitz, and Rob Dews or Ducephur. Here with me now is Tina the Keeper to help me go through the donations because, man, it is actually hard to read all of these by myself. I know. You're exhausted by the time the show is done and posted. There's also an emotional part to it because the things that people are saying is just lovely. I don't know if you, well, you rarely listen to the show. I listen to clips. Clips. I do not listen to a full podcast anymore. I'm sorry. I told everybody what the future is and about the Dvorak's new show and about We Get to Do This and Corinne the Keeper resurrecting. And this, why are we doing that? You just told me we're resurrecting it. It was put on my heart.

2:08:47 God put it on my heart that we need to do it. There you go. You need your one hour a week to completely belittle me, which is great. It's a good time. It's a good time. It is a good time. So value for value, we still are value for value, which means anytime you get value from the show, all you have to do is put a number to it and send it back. Your time, your talent, or your treasure. Time and talent, man. I'm going to have a lot of people to thank on Thursday's show. I'm writing down the list. It's like one of those award-winning moments where I'm sure I'm forgetting people. Well, no one's going to cut the music, so you have all the time. Yeah, but I mean, my brain doesn't even go back

2:09:28 20 years. You can do it. I don't know. I'll help you. Well, definitely want to thank the artists who have always been here. From early on, we were doing different album art for every single show. Even though I think Apple supported it, but Apple actually put it in their spec, but they never really showed it until a few years ago. But all the modern podcast apps, thank you to those guys, podcastapps.com, where you can still get an alert when a show goes live. And Scaramanga did the art for us on the previous episode, which was perfect. It was Brunetti's hopping truck with his farting dog in the back.

2:10:07 And he himself had just turned into a weed gummy. It was amazing. That was for episode 1914, titled Thrust Package. Now let's thank the people who supported us with their treasure, kicking it off with Mahingis Silver from Bombay, New York, comes in with $1,988.18 and says, Thank you, JCD, Adam, and families. Blessings on your continued journeys. Beautiful work. And we thank you so much, Mohingis. And then the next one is Laura Hartman Frizelle from Greenville, South Carolina with $1,000 and no notes. No notes. So, well, we should probably give her a double up karma while we're at it doing that. You've got.

2:10:49 Karma. And then flying in straight from Tokyo, Japan, are Day Master and Sir Mark, $770, $77.77. Well, there's an angel, beautiful, heavenly number for you. And she says, or they say, Dear Adam and the dearest Dvorak family, congratulations on an incredible No Agenda journey. From the very first show until today, it's an absolute proof of what true authenticity with a twinge of wit can achieve. We're so proud to be part of the truly global No Agenda Nation, which I have a feeling No Agenda Nation will continue. I think the meetups will stay, and we'll certainly go to the meetups if they're here in Fredericksburg. It's impossible to say or calculate the immeasurable difference John and you made in our lives every day for 19 years.

2:11:34 Thank you for all your hard work in keeping our amygdala small over the years. We live better for it. John will stay very dear in our memory and No Agenda will certainly live on. Adam, we've always trusted your judgment. We'll keep listening to you. We will never leave home without those awesome JCD challenge coins in our pockets, ants on our lapels, and ITM rings on our fingers from Day Mastery and Sir Mark. They are, of course, the Archduchess and Archduke of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. The next one is Brian Taylor from Houston, Texas, $579.33. He says, in the morning, Adam, Brian Taylor from Katie, Texas here. This $579.33 makes me a knight.

2:12:13 I'd like to be Sir Speed Skater, Knight of the Addicts, Barker Reservoir, and Katie Park. That's a mouthful. It was great to see you again in person at the fifth semi-annual Fredericksburg meetup at the Full Moon Inn. I'm glad you got to meet my wife, Karen, and our son, Logan. He's the love child of the Bass Drop Meetup. Oh, yes. Yeah, I remember them. So, in a way, he's a true No Agenda product. And now he's officially been introduced to the man himself. He's a good-looking kid with awesome blue eyes, bilingual E-S-E-N. What is that? E-S-E-N. He will be on a Linux box shortly. Yeah. I know. Happy 19th anniversary. And thank you for your courage and service. Headbangers, Ball, and Top 20.

2:12:57 It's been a minute. Now for the important part. We've been trying to give Logan a sibling. And after a miscarriage last year, we could really use some No Agenda love. Please hit us with some triple X baby-making karma. Include a Resist, We Much, and Clippity Clop for Nostalgia. Please have some Magenta Symphony 2. I'm killing this. Tequila at the roundtable. Okay, here we go. Magenta Symphony Dos Reprosado tequila. Sir, Speed Skater, Knight of the Addicts, Barker, Reservoir, and Katie Park from Brian Taylor. It's Clippity Club. The message is clear.

2:13:42 But resist, we must. We must. And we will much about that. Be committed. You've got. There it is. Karma. We aim to please Joel Cox from Indianola, Pennsylvania, 575.40. In the morning, Adam and Dvorak family. With this donation of $575.40, I'm finally making my way to the roundtable after 19 years of listening. For my knighthood, I'd like to be known as Sir Engineer of Most, Master of None.

2:14:21 For the roundtable, I would like a Porterhouse steak and fritz. Adam, John, the Dvoraks and Gitmo Nation, thank you for 19 years of entertainment, insight, and countless hours of conspiracy analysis. You've been an amazing conspiracy therapist. Because of No Agenda, I didn't spiral because of COVID. I genuinely missed the debates back and forth between you and John. That chemistry was something special, and it's what kept me coming back year after year. The one quote I always remembered hearing from you is: There are no secrets, only information you don't yet have. True. I will forever miss John's stories and insights. I always wished he'd written a book about his experiences. Adam, I'll miss your MTV stories and the experiences you've shared over the year. Wait for the book.

2:15:03 I will cherish my JCD challenge coin after 19 years of listening. It'll mean more to me than just a collectible. It will be something tangible to remember John by and a reminder of all the years of entertainment, wisdom, and laughter you both provided. I wish you and the Dvorak family all the best in whatever comes next. Thank you for your courage. For my jingles, I want if you say you see something, say something, smoking hot wife jingle, the one John always hated, and John's Spooky Donate. I think I have all of those. Let me see. What was the one? Oh, Boogity. Yeah, okay. Let me see. Hold on. This is always the challenge. Boogity, boogity, boogity. There we go.

2:15:54 You've got. John Age. Johnny. John Nate. Karma. There you go. Next comes in Brent Stricker from Newport, Rhode Island, $555. He says, I can't afford a rubberizer, so here's a triple nickel. Is this the last No Agenda show? I hope it's great. Thank you for your courage. Can I get a mac and cheese? And little girl, yay. Adam, God bless. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, but mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and sheep chatter melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.

2:16:35 Woo! Anonymous, Westminster, Maryland, Knighting. Please pronounce the Kate Miss Sir, a frothy mix, Knight of the Maryland Piedmont. At the roundtable, pulled pork and a PBR. Perhaps we were nothing like it. Jingles, I got ants and F Cancer. To the fellow producers of No Agenda Nation, we are all fortunate and blessed to have been introduced to John and Adam and the No Agenda way of thinking. I found out about this community by way of John as a guest on this week in tech and was enamored by his dry humor and direct no BS attitude. Little did I know, 1,603 episodes later, I would be submitting my thesis and receiving a PhD in media deconstruction. We should give the value for value model the celebration it deserves by continuing to support Adam in his season of change.

2:17:20 Listen to his podcast with Pastor Jimmy and give it the full consideration you have given No Agenda over the years, and I guarantee you will find a lifetime of value above and beyond that of No Agenda. Every one of you have gained the tools of deconstruction and discernment to apply thoughtfully and carry you forward throughout the years. As a truck driver by trade, I have an above average amount of time to listen to all the great podcasts out there, but I would like to shout out this week in Bitcoin. Bitcoin by Chris from Jupiter Broadcasting, who produces Linux Unplugged. For a No Agenda perspective, shout out to the Millennium. I think it's funny. I think I already read this one. Did you? Feels like it. For a No Agenda perspective, shout out to the Millennial Media Offensive. Both podcasts have adopted the value for value model and seem to be thriving.

2:18:03 I know I've read this one. This is, I'm not sure how this happened. Adam, might we hear from Mo of MoFax someday soon? I don't know. Maybe a guest when we get to do this. I don't know. Could I get me one of them sweet JCD challenge coins? It's a pulled pork and PBR at the roundtable. All the love to Mimi and the family, Noah, the Nation, especially my fellow truck drivers. And yes, we have the Ant Song Nef Cancer for you. I got ants. I got ants.

2:18:50 You've got karma. Next up is Ed Crow from Parts Unknown, and he says, Dear Adam and Dvorak family, in the morning, thank you for your courage. What a year 2026 has proven to be, especially with the loss of our beloved JCD and now the threat of an exit strategy coming true. As a first episode listener, I realize at this point I've been listening to John and Adam for most of my adult life, keeping me informed, shaping my thinking, and always providing an entertaining time. I cannot help but mark the end of an era with a bang of a donation. Thank you, Adam and Dvorak family, for your years of service, sacrifices, and immeasurable goodness brought to the world by John and Adam and all that supported you.

2:19:33 I would ask to be dubbed Sir Ed the Crowbar of Lakewood Ranch. Jingle, you've got prayers. I've got ants. I will miss you all. Yours in Christ, Ed Crow. Well, we already did the ants just a second ago, so we'll give you the prayers. Prayers. $500 from Kynerd Coleman, I think, Santa Rosa Beach, Florida. Hi, Adam. I retired this year after a 40-year career as a software developer. I have actually had Nerd in my name since birth. That's right. KyNerd. Oh, decades ago, it was a PC magazine subscriber. John's column is the only thing I still remember about that publication. It was a must-read. I really liked watching him hosting Silicon Spin 2.

2:20:15 He was, I was a daily source code listener enjoying the tales of your bio-diesel Mercedes. When the two of you paired to launch No Agenda, you absolutely captured lightning in a bottle. There's nothing else like it. It has been a great run. Thank you for opening my eyes via your media deconstruction. Next up, $500 from Gary Barnick. This donation finishes my knighthood accounting attached. I started listening to No Agenda after hearing JCD on Twitter sometime around episode 180. Thanks for all the years of great entertainment and info. I'll keep up with you on We Get to Do This and greatly miss John. I'd like Sir Gary of the Dive as my title. Ethan Falk, New Durham, New Hampshire, $444.44.

2:21:00 Here for the coin, he says. Thanks for the show. Cynthia Schottie from Vienna, Virginia, $444.38. Thank you, John. And No Agenda Nation for your courage. Please grant me baby-making karma as my husband and I are starting our new adventure. Also, please dame me Dane Cynthia of the Lowlands. Heart-like. Heart to look. Is that Dutch? Yeah. I can't. I will kill that. Cynthia Scolta. You got it, Cynthia. You've got. Karma. Brandon Ellsbury, Karen Crow, Louisiana, I believe, $4.21 and a dime.

2:21:45 Well, we knew the data would come at some point. Brandon says, but it's never when you want and you can never be ready. I remember nearly 10 years ago listening to the 10th anniversary show in college and laughing at all the various jingle combos and such over nearly seven hours and the special contraption and the looping song you made for the nighting segment. It's a journey and experience that I will truly cherish. To the entire front and back office of No Agenda, and regardless of what happens in the future, know that you all have contributed to the knowledge and awareness of the BS of the media at all levels. You have spawned many friendships, marriages, children named John and Adam. Not a lot named John and Adam, to be honest. And podcasts who share in the vision of the truth being not the wizard that loomed before us, but in fact, the man behind the curtain.

2:22:30 While I will always love the show, I also share in the same sentiment: No Agenda is all of us, but is anchored in Adam and John. Rest in peace, JCD. You were taken taken to. too early, and we all miss you dearly. With this donation of $421, along with various other donations and promotions, and along with the JCD Challenge Coin, I finally achieved knighthood after all this time. Please knight me, sir, homebound. Thank you for your courage, and Godspeed in your future endeavors in Christ, says Brandon Ellsbury. Next up is Glenn DeSantos of the Land of Soft Bank from Lucasville, Ohio. And he says, Hope all is well in the Hill Country and with the Dvorak family. With my latest donation, I have reached knighthood. Accounting should be attached. I would like to forego knighthood and instead have you to either save the knighthood for a deserving producer,

2:23:16 or bestow it as you see fit to who or even a cause you deem worthy. I do not possess the vocabulary to adequately express my gratitude for what you and John have done and what you continue to do. You've both made a great impact in so many people's lives and you'll continue to do the same. May the best of days lie ahead for you. Yours and the Dvoraks. That's really nice. Alexa Delgado, no stranger to the spreadsheet from Opta Aptos, California, 402.89. Dear Adam Dvorak family and special guest co-hosts, I'm donating $388.83 plus fees today in honor of the late and great John C. Dvorak. I also would like to have my very own super sick challenge coin to remember John and the best podcasts in the universe by.

2:23:59 I started listening to No Agenda in 2016 and never looked back. Started donating in October of 2017 as a $50 a month night layaway. A nightway planned donor. And upon doing the math, I am now a Viscountess. I do not require any additional lands. I'm honestly just happy to be here and be part of this community. This podcast has had such a deep impact on me. I'm so grateful for all the time and effort you and John put into the show twice a week for 19 years. I did not expect John's passing to hit me so hard. I felt as if I'd lost a family member. You know, how many times have we heard that? So many people say that. But this show has been like family to me. Everyone involved from producers like Linda Liu, Gigawatt Coffee, and the producer that loves America and boobs.

2:24:43 Yeah, the Archduke of Luna, Ken McLaughlin. To all the other folks that help out on the back end keeping the show running, to Mimi and the Dvorak family, and to you, Adam, thank you everyone for making my days twice a week a bit brighter, lighter, and full of laughter. Can I please request John calling Raven and Bambi to the stage? Also, John's spooky donate jingle. I would also like to request Nancy Pelosi Jobs Karma and also request some baby-making karma just in case this is my last opportunity to do so. Love always from Alex Delgado. Yes, I think we have just about everything. Up next, Bambi. Bambi up to the stage. You've got.

2:25:30 Karma. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got. Jonate. Johnny. Johnny. Karma. A lot of baby making. A lot of people are. I like it. More babies. We need more people. Third. Dynonymous here. Just donated $388.83 plus the fees. I could not miss out on the opportunity to get my hands on one of the JCD challenge coins.

2:26:07 I regret missing out on the order of the heart and couldn't let this slip by. I also couldn't miss the opportunity to wish Adam well with his future endeavors. No Agenda has been a massive part of my life. When John passed, it was a massive blow to No Agenda Nation and must have been impossible for Adam. Despite no JCD, no JCD, I have really enjoyed the episode since. Darren and Larry did a fine job, and Dana, Rob, Andrew, JK, and Matt have been excellent co-hosts to Adam and each brought something different to the show while still being unmistakably No Agenda. I also quite like the musical interludes too. Without No Agenda and without both of you, I would not be where I am today. I would not have started Pot Herd and would not have interacted with so many amazing people.

2:26:49 I don't know what the future has in store, but it's been an amazing ride up until now. Thank you for your years of entertainment and thank you for your courage. And PodHurd is Sir DeNonymous. That is the engine that powers Bingit.io. And any podcast can sign up for it. So you can get the same amazing search results, clipability, et cetera, from PodHurd. Justin Gadbury, $400.91. That is a challenge coin plus fees. I started listening after the first Rogan appearance. Haven't missed an episode since. No Agenda has become a cherished part of my life and I'll certainly miss the twice weekly M5M Deconstruction. Adam, thank you for the countless hours of insight, humor, and perspective John is deeply missed. And while it's hard to see this chapter come to an end, I wish you nothing but the best.

2:27:34 best as you embark on your next chapter in serving the Lord. Thank you for your service and God bless in the morning. Sincerely, Justin from North Idaho. P.S. If it's not too much trouble, can we get a belated happy birthday to my daughter Cameron, who officially became a teenager this month? She's on the list. Next up is Edward Sheldrake, who donated $388.83 plus fees for the JCD Challenge Coin. All right. Sir J-Mo, Black Baron of North Idaho, Challenge Coin donation. ITM, sorry in advance for the lengthy note. They always start off that way. As I approach my 51st birthday on October 23rd, I'm thankful for the nearly six years I've actively been listening to the show. The amygdala shrinkage has been a godsend. I actually tuned into episode one when it came out.

2:28:19 Being a dude named Ben who truly loves tech, I saw a squirrel and my podcast intake limits were filled with a certain netcast network for a while. Episodes featuring John were always my favorite. 2026 has been a hell of a year with the passing of JCD and a couple of my family members. I deeply appreciate the work that you, John, and all the guest hosts have done. Well, no one can ever replace the BuzzKid himself, but I'm sure he's upstairs listening and enjoying the show. I also started listening to you too and thoroughly enjoying your podcast with Pastor Jimmy. And I've enjoyed your journey finding Jesus. I'd like to give a shout out to Scott and Paul at the No ID podcast. I've traveled the two hours for a few Sanity Brigade No Agenda meetups with these guys.

2:29:00 They are the real deal, indeed. If any producers haven't taken the time to listen, it's definitely worth checking out. The content is Idaho-based, but there are takeaways that affect all of us. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Curry and Dvorak clans, all of the extended family, and the hardworking producers. Can I please send, can you please send me some jobs, Karma? I've been working with Linda Liu on securing my future endeavors. For jingles, I'd love to hear fisting nuts and a sharpening of your choice. Thank you for your courage, Sir J-Mo, Black Baron of North Idaho. Why, yes, we have that. Of course. Just go for it, John. Tell us your peeve about the fisting method.

2:29:37 Might as well do it again. I've done this on the airplane, and it's very annoying, and I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand, and then he makes a fist around the nuts. Around the nuts, and then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop. And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist. Then he does it again. He shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell to watch.

2:30:21 R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought karma. Do you remember when I made that jingle? Yes, I do. I told the story. Where was it? Oh, was it the Cluedio? Were you in the Cluedio? No, I think it was at the penitentiary. Oh, was it? Remember, I was in bed. Do you remember that? We were in bed, and I said, watch me. Watch me make this. Watch me produce. I was like, watch me produce this, baby. I'm so cool. You don't remember that? Nope. I remember. Next up is Robert P. 388.83 plus fees. Thank you, Adam and John, for your education bestowed to No Agenda Nation and Media Deconstruction.

2:31:02 May you and the Dvorak family be blessed forever. Robert P. Dame Bouleysteed, Challenge Coin. I wouldn't think of showing up to an NA meetup without proper bullcrap detector certification. Challenge Coin. Godspeed. Fair wins to the NA family. The community has been the wind beneath your wings, says Dame Bouleysteed. Thank you, Dame Bouleysteed. Dame Karen and Knight Bradley Selsor, again, Challenge Coin. John, we miss you. Adam, we wish you the best on your further adventures. We have truly enjoyed and appreciated the show for 19 years. I also want to wish Dame Karen a 56th happy birthday. Best wishes always from Dame Karen and Knight Bradley Selzor. JCV, Challenge Coin, says, good luck in retirement. Yeah, good luck with that.

2:31:46 There's no retirement here. You've got many spins. We got to eat. Yeah, exactly. You've got to get a job. Justin Palmer, Challenge Coin, No Jingles, No Karma. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe, Justin Palmer. Sean Fitch, Challenge Coin. In the morning to you, Adam, and the rest of Gipmon. I'm writing in from Katie, Texas. Been listening for over three years. This is my first donation, so please deduce. You've been dedouched. My deepest condolences on John's passing for 19 years. You two made a whole lot of us feel like family. And Adam, I wish you nothing but the best in your next chapter. You've earned it. Last year, I got tired of accepting below baseline as normal and decided to take my health back from Big Pharma.

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2:33:04 That's abovebaseline.us. Request site access and enter ITM15 as your referral for 15% off your first order. No jingles or karma, just love and respect. Thank you so much for your courage, Sean. William Mountney, Challenge Coin, we miss your words of wisdom, JCD. None like you shall pass this way again. And I think Bill actually did the final end of show mix song for today, which is a banger. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Everybody should be. You know him as Bill, not William. Yes, I know him as Bill. Hey, there's Sir Daddy Cast, Baron of the Center of the Universe, with a Challenge Coin donation. Adam, I cannot say I look forward to a future without No Agenda Show, but I have that I've known and loved.

2:33:48 But I understand for all things, there's a season and all good things must come to an end. The passing of John was a huge impact, and thoughts and prayers continue to go out to his family, the No Agenda family, and of course, you, Adam, and the keeper. As an OG producer, you may recall I used to send you homemade intros to the daily source code long before AI was available to improve them. I sure do. I will keep listening as your involvement in other shows and efforts continue. And I hope someone in the Dvorak family is getting to wear the Washington and Lee University sweatshirt we sent John years ago. Or perhaps his collection of university clothing is now being donned by the San Francisco unhouse. That would be a nice update. If it can fit into the last couple of shows, what is has been done with John's collections?

2:34:32 I'm imagining a museum of sorts, perhaps even better, a virtual visit option. We did talk about this. We thought we should spray the whole thing with Lucite. So it's just, this is Calacanis' idea. So it's all plastified. Preserved. It's preserved. And it's an Airbnb for $1,000 a night. John would love it. Anyway, too long already. Peace as you move on to the next chapter. And adios, Mofos, says Sir Daddy Cast. Next is Plum Tucker, another challenge coin. Adam and John, you both have had a huge and positive impact on my life in ways that I'll never be able to put into words. Thank you so much. Anonymous with a challenge coin donation from Greenville, South Carolina.

2:35:11 Thanks, JCD and Adam, for 19 years of teaching us how to deconstruct the M5M and so many other forces of ignorance in our world. That said, my motto is have fun. What is this? Sir, no PIs. No PIs? I think. Oh, okay. Sir, no PIs, challenge coin, RIP, JCD, and the show. While he unfortunately passed away on my birthday, it will also be my way of remembering the show and all you've done. Love and lit, and good luck with the future endeavors. I will follow. Long live NA Nation. No jingles, no karma. Oh, that's it. MJNK. Okay. Yes. And Jay wanted me to rind it. Remind everybody, please submit your address at noagendarings.com for the challenge coin.

2:35:56 That's the best way to do it, the easiest for her. And seeing the amount of challenge coins that'll be going out, it's much appreciated. Sir Egghead, challenge coin donation. Please call me Sir Egghead, Knight of the Long Shadows of Trash Mountain. Why, yes, indeed. Jingles, I love my truck and smoking hot wife. Hold on a second. I got it. These were boogity. The AI couldn't figure out what these were. And love my truck. Okay, there we go. Donating to say thank you to Adam and JCD for the lessons and humor on how to view the media and the world around us.

2:36:36 Thanks for introducing us to the guest hosts as well, Dana and Dew for the Win. I can't pass up the challenge coin. And while I thought I'd have a bit more time to do it, I'd like to make this donation, along with the others I've made beyond my knighthood, a switcheroo to dame my smoking hot wife, PJ Golden. She's the best thing a fellow could ask for, and the only fight we've ever had is over Thanksgiving dinner. Thanks for No Agenda. It'll be interesting to see what happens next. Much love, Sir Egghead, Knight of the Long Shadows of Trash Mountain. I love my truck and I love what I do. Hold on, thank you for the smoking hot wild. Sir Michael, Protector of the Peas.

2:37:19 ITM from Sir Michael, Protectors of the Peas. Laura here. Thank you, ACD Challenge Coin. Thank you, ACD, JCD, for the last 19 years of media deconstruction. Also, for teaching us how to deconstruct the news we receive, wishing both the Curry and Dvorak families nothing but the best in the future. And then Robert Dietrich, Challenge Coin, and there was no note. Dylan, Challenge Coin, thank you for everything over the years from listening to No Agenda, driving to university and four kids later, enjoying every moment. God bless. No jingles, no karma. Dylan from Niverville, MB. Where's MB? Manitoba. Oh, and I'll take a dedouching. You've been dedouched. Glenn Polk from Tyler, Texas.

2:38:03 In the morning, after looking back and totaling up my monthly payments, adding of this donation of $388.83 for the challenge coin, I find that pushes me over the line to be a knight. Accounting below. I'd like to be known as Sir CAD Manager. You think it's CAD or CAD? No, CAD. CAD Manager. Can I get an official dedouching? Hold on, dedouching. You've been dedouched. Have you ever listened to the donation statement? Clearly not. Thanks for listening, babe. And some R2D2 karma. Do I stop? No, you don't stop there. It comes at the end. I'm glad that I'm able to get this in so I can still be knighted by the podfather. Having a show you've been listening to for years go through a big change is sad, but still look forward to what is to come.

2:38:46 I wish the Curry and Dvorak families the best, keeping this short the way John would like it. RIP JCD. You've got karma. Seth Donnelly, challenge coin, rest in power, JCD. May the Lord grant you eternal respite from your struggle against those six-legged marauders from the lower realms. And may your loved ones, Adam and the NA crew, use this remuneration to enjoy a Junipero gin and tonic in your honor. Thank you. Sir Roger of the Borough of Hats. Adam, thank you for your 19 years of service to Gitmo Nation. We'll miss you, but so happy you found your exit strategy. Love and light and long live JCD.

2:39:29 Sir Roger of the Borough of Hats, no jingles, no karma. The Cyber Sik Seek Organization, the Cyber Seek Organization. First time, like others, I wished I had donated before we lost JCD. Dedouche me, please. You've been dedouched. And that's a challenge coin donation. Enjoy your retirement. Why do people think I can retire? Oh my gosh, you have a million plates spinning in the middle. Looking forward to your book. Yes, that is coming. And maybe a new pod. Ooh. A new pod. A pod. Yes, indeed. Okay. Burn. Um, next is John Lips with the challenge coin. No note. No note. Double up, karma. You've got

2:40:11 karma. Will from South Carolina challenge coin donation. After listening to John as the best part of Twit for a couple of years, I finally started listening to No Agenda after Adam was on in 2012. I haven't missed an episode since and have never been disappointed. John's death hit me harder than one might expect for a man I've never met. My deepest condolences to the Dvorak family and Adam. Thank you for all the years of No Agenda, Adam. I wish you the best on your future adventures. It has been inspiring listening to your journey to and with Christ. After years of a monthly $11.11 subscription, I'm overdue for my knighting. Please knight me, Sir William of the South Carolina Midlands. Consider it done.

2:40:51 Nice. Christian Saunders, Challenge Coin. Godspeed, gentlemen. Adam, I had to get this in before you moved on to your next endeavors. I would like to be Sir Chris Knight of the referees. I finally got around to claiming this, so I will be Baronet Chris of the Northland, R-I-P, JCD, Muse Accounting Below, Jingles, Reverend Al, F35, and Prayers, Karma. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got Karma. You've got prayers.

2:41:35 Sir Zuki of Enoshima. Challenge Coin. No jingles, no karma, but much love from Sir Zuki of Enoshima. There's no name on this next one, but a long note. Do you have a name? Interesting. It's a $400 donation. That's weird, isn't it? Well, we'll just call them anonymous for now. Okay, dear Curry and Dvorak families. It is truly the end of an era, something that has been a big part of my life for the entire 19 years. Adam, it was great meeting you in Boise. When were you in Boise? Oh, that was PT. Oh, okay, Christina. Yes. And I hope you put the knighting sword I gave you to good use.

2:42:17 I will always regret it. It's still here somewhere. Somewhere. I will always regret never getting to meet John. For jingles, can I get a new CEO Goat Karma from my CEO Mike and the old school we told you so on No Agenda? Because over 19 years you told me a lot. MP3 attached in case you can't find it. Oh, that was nice. Sorry for the long note, but the info below about our startup is something I would know will be of interest to the NA family. One flag, that jingle sentence was the hardest to clean up since CEO Goat Karma is ambiguous in the original. Check that version before you send it. I don't even know if I have this, unfortunately.

2:42:54 I don't think that came through with it, but I'm looking forward to it. I'll go on. No Agenda listeners. Baron Idaho and Mike from Maine, along with some industry expert friends, founded a startup that the people demanded. Fully transparent public funds and a government contract procurement system where everyone sees where every penny goes with permanent forensic accountability. Wow. No Agenda Universe. We proudly present to you Civic Chain. Towns, counties, state, or federal programs put out bids for work. Road repair, plowing, construction, grants, missiles, you name it. Civic Chain can make it fully public with no private citizen information ever visible. Imagine a public works truck pulls up to the pump to get diesel, uses their Civic Chain MasterCard visa, Google or Apple Pay,

2:43:40 and everyone in town can see before tires hit pavement. Logged on a public ledger. Natural disaster emergency, no problem. Okay. Yes, there's more. Oh, there is more? I don't have it. Oh, Bob's Bacco Company can be hired, awarded to do the work and be paid nearly instantly and independently verifiable. It's an ad, babe. Oh, I don't care. All protected by a verified know-your-business vendor network so you can pay your contractors or find work with confidence. Parented advisory voting technology allows citizens a voice before contract procurement is decided by town councils. Wow, this sounds like something that's amazing. Did they have a website for this thing?

2:44:21 What was it? I only have half the note. With the U.S. Genius Act stable coins, we can offer new revenue streams without a penny of local or state taxation. Money that used to sit idle could now earn real U.S. Treasury yields, shiny new town trucks, and more potholes filled thanks to the Genius Act stable coins. What is the name of this? Oh, CivicChain. Civich-Chain.com. There you go. Civic-chain.com. I couldn't find the jingle, unfortunately. It didn't get attached. So I will give you a service goat karma and, of course, a classic jingle. You've got karma. See why I'm so tired? Yes, I'll do the next one since you finish that up.

2:45:08 Alexander S. Tuck, Challenge Coin. No note. Jacob Wicklund's challenge coin. Please see the email, a note I just sent to Adam at Curry.com titled The Great Feminization. Wow. Okay. Hold on a second. Feminization. No, no. It's, you know, you shouldn't send it to me. You need to. No, I don't have it. Feminization. No, sorry. Didn't come through. Sir Quill Scout Challenge Coin. Please officially deduce Sir Quill Scout. You've been deduced. R.I.P., JCDA. AJ Boland, Northfield, Minnesota, 388.83 for the challenge coin.

2:45:52 Thank you for your courage, Adam and the Dvorak family. With this, I achieve my dame status and secure the JCD challenge coin. May he rest in peace. I request Hatsake and Unagi at the roundtable. I will henceforth be known as Dame Siren Sabotage Saboteur of Subterfuge. Glad you got that one. This show has been a companion since 2016, keeping my Migdla small and my sense of community intact. Connection is truly protection. Love is lit. Good luck in all future endeavors. And also, how dare you quit? I'll be super salty in the troll room. Thank you for your attention to this matter. A millennial girl, AJ, and Millennial Girl wants some karma.

2:46:34 Happy to oblige. You've got karma. And William Bracken comes in with a challenge coin and no note. John always loved getting those. Yeah, look at the nice. You're getting long ones. Sir Brian, Black Knight of the Royal Wooten Bassett. He's been around for a while. He's from Swindon and Wiltshire in the UK. Challenge coin. First, my condolences to the Dvorak family and everyone coming to terms with the loss of John C. Dvorak. I've been a fan of John since the 80s when I was developing an interest in computers and computing. I loved his analysis and his clear and direct punchy writing. John was almost certainly the reason why I started listening to Twit during long commutes because.

2:47:14 because his was a name I recognized. For a long while, it was one of the few podcasts I listened to, but definitely the best of the bunch. Second, Adam, I'm really sorry you're leaving, but at the same time, I'm really happy for you as you move on to the next stage of your life when you became an infrequent guest on Twit. I didn't know who you were or about your MTV career. I liked your take on things, particularly on the business side of tech, so always looked forward to your appearances. I didn't immediately start listening to No Agenda and said I joined somewhere in the 40s or 50s. No Agenda became my solo podcast listen once. Twit became this week in Twitter, and I realized the best parts of Twit had their own podcast. I've been listening to No Agenda ever since and haven't missed the show, even if I've been a few episodes behind from time to time.

2:47:57 Third, thanks to everyone who has kept the show going over these past few months, from those on the microphone to everyone behind the scenes, to the producers and other supporters, VoidZero, Sir Bemrose, Jay, Dreb, the Clip Custodian, Steve, and Neil, and Dave. Keep going at this time. Keeping going at this time must have been hard. So I appreciate all you've done. I especially want to thank Darren and Larry for their time filling in. Me too. I think they did a brilliant job. Also, Mimi, who we all finally got to meet at a difficult time. She was outstanding. Finally, congratulations on the arrival of the newest members of the Dvorak and Curry clans, Nora and Cleo. This is such good news for both families, and I'm sure they will keep you busy.

2:48:41 I'll continue to listen to the show and keep on working towards becoming a Duke. I've been saving towards my Rubber Lyzer donation because I'm about that far away from that. I'm about that far away at this moment. Best wishes to all for the future from Brian. Very nice. David Bauker from Mount Juliet, Tennessee, 38883. And he says, Hi, Adam. We want to say thank you for your courage and many years of service to No Agenda Nation. You and JCD brought many years of sanity, entertainment, and insight to us over the years, and we will be forever grateful. We are saddened to see it come to an end, but we are looking forward to following your journey as you commit your life to your walk with Christ.

2:49:18 We send our condolences and love to Mimi and the entire Dvorak family. This donation for the challenge coin and our past donations and monthly contributions bring my wife and I to the level of knight and dame. We would like to be what is this word? Pronounce the pronounced. Pronounce? That's not even a word. Thank you for listening to the past thousand episodes of No Agenda. Pronounced the Kated. Wow. This is what I'm talking about. It's a word. You'll hear it again. No Agenda words. I will pronounce the Ked. Wow. Oh, wow. You just listen to the intro, like, oh, I got something better to do. Let me finish the note. Dame Jessica of Smashville and the Commodore Lowlands. Sir David of Smashville and the Commodore Lowlands.

2:50:00 Accounting attached and below with love, David and Jessica Bauker. P.S. I use my robots to spin up a live loop of the No Agenda Archives, plus a random episode player for anyone who needs to plug in for a little sanity or comfort at NoAndon. NA Radio. Or NA RadioArchives.com. That's cool. Oh, that is cool. NARACHIVE.com. Okay. Got it. Surprise, Knight of Astonishment comes in with a challenge coin donation. Farewell, No Agenda. Farewell, Adam Curry and Keeper. Farewell, Dvorak clan. I do, I do, I do plan to continue to listen to whatever reincarnation of the best podcast in the universe comes after this, and we get to do this as well.

2:50:42 Godspeed, surprise, the night of astonishment. I'm so happy to read this next note. Baron Tony in Chicago and Dame not a serial killer, Kate. Yes. 38883. RIP JCD. Adam, the show has been a pillar for my wife and I since the beginning. Thank you so much for the deconstruction. Baron Tony in Chicago and Dame not a serial killer, Kate. Just think about how many people we actually have come to meet. I know, I know. I know. I know both of them very well. Nicholas Ficklin, Challenge Coin, ITM, and congratulations on 19 years. After missing the order of the ant, I knew I could not let the JCD challenge coin pass me by.

2:51:21 This donation also more than satisfies my promise to donate all sales of the limited JCD bottles, including the few that have yet to sell. For any producers looking to get one of those or simply looking to add some excitement to mealtime, visit sklazen.com, S-C-L-A-Z-I-N, sklazen.com/slash JCD. I'll be back to complete my knighthood before Adam's departure. Prayer, Jingo, please. Thank you for your courage. Future knight, Sir Sklazen, Shepherd of the Sauce. There we go. You've got prayers. Dr. Sir Commodore Mike, 38883, ITM, Dr. Sir Commodore Mike from Las Vegas, checking in.

2:52:07 I've been here most of the 19 years. What a long, strange trip it's been. With this donation, I claim the title of Viscount, accounting below. You've been a part of my commutes, hikes, and bike rides for a long time. I even listened while on the that's the German word: Reyenfeetzruta through Germany. And the Netherlands is April. Europe sure has some great bike routes. Can I get a Don't Eat Me, Joe Biden, and some jobs karma for my human resources? Adam, enjoy your news season. Sir, Mike in Vegas. Don't eat me, Bull Jet, and you're scary. So skidding. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's go for jobs. You saw karma.

2:52:52 There's Craig P with a challenge coin donation. I never wrote in after a donation, but I wanted to send something this time. I was hitting the mouth the summer of 2008, looking for news, entertainment on my 45-minute walk to work every morning in Dublin. I download the feed from BT Pod Show and Cranky Geeks and loaded it into my Nokia N810. Oh man, it's classic. You guys rooted yourselves into my routine, a friendly and insightful presence that got me to question the media and look for my own answers. The camaraderie and the love between you two. It was easy to think we were all in the same room with you guys, listening to the friendly banter, sometimes argued, but never held a grudge.

2:53:32 I look forward to every episode. Over the years, no agenda was always there, always making me laugh to think to escape the daily grind just for a couple of hours. I never thought it would end. With all things, there is change. Respect to you guys for providing countless hours of entertainment, news, discussions, and many laughs. There honestly is no comparison to what you, Adam, and John have provided. All the best, Adam, in your future ventures. As was said in the last show, you're a doer, and we need more people like you. Love to the Dvorak family for sharing him with us all these years, says Craig P. Very nice. Michael Fair comes in with a challenge coin donation. Thank you for your courage. I'm a longtime douchebag, first-time donor. Well, it needs a dedouche. You've been dedouched. Good cue.

2:54:16 Visual cue. Very good, Ben. Very good. I've been a listener since double digits. Crackpot and Buzzkill have kept me sane in my amygdala small for all these years. I thank you both for that. I'm going to say the same thing that thousands of other people have said, and I mean it just as much as they have: that the loss of JCD hit me harder than any sane person thinks it should have. I was planning on my first donation to be a Rubelizer donation so I could have the challenge coin. Then JCD decided on his exit strategy. So here we are. Adam, thank you for trying to keep the show going forward as it has, but it can't. And you moving on is the only sane thing for you to do. The show has its own soul.

2:54:55 You and JCD have the chemistry and to make your conversations worth listening to. When he said people would want to listen to what you were talking about all those years ago, he was right. Those conversations are gone now. You have new conversations that people will want to listen to. R.I.P. JCD, Michael Fair. Don Moroda, Challenge Coin, 38883. And Jonathan Chow? Choo. Yeah, Chow. Chow, I think. 38883. Sir Brian with an I. Oh, there he is. We actually played his little I caught COVID from a sailor. Yes, he was in Seattle. He asked me if we played it during the show, nonetheless. Rarely if he was thanked, and I said no.

2:55:38 Challenge Coin, ITM, in honor of our beloved John C. Dvorak. Please allow me to receive a challenge coin. Not owning the coin would be nothing less than bullcrap. Speaking of bullcrap, I purchased that'sbullcrap.com, the setup memorial site for John. If anyone has a favorite JCD clip, please send it to me and I will add it to the site. You can contact me at sirbrianwithaney.com or sirbrianwithaney.wtf. And I'm happy to announce this donation of 388.83 upgrades me to Baron. Wow. No title change requested, though. I'm looking forward to many years of listening to Adam and Pastor Jimmy on WGTDT and would like to float the idea that maybe, just maybe, Adam would consider using one hour a week, maybe on Wednesdays, to do a podcast with his lovely roommates in the morning, y'all.

2:56:24 Why, yes, yes, yes. It's happening. The next one just says strike. 388.41. Yeah, Bitcoin donation. Okay. Yes. Sir Bilo, St. Joseph, Missouri. It's been a rough few months since John's passing. Challenge coin. Oh, 388. I guess they'll get a challenge coin. It's been a few, a rough few months since John's passing, which I took way harder than I would have figured. I'm also not at all happy hearing you're moving on as well, but I certainly understand it. Regardless, I'm very happy that you'll still be the one upgrading me to Baron, finally, and that I'll have a challenge coin to always remember JCD. Might make for a lucky card cover at the poker table. And I'm finally going to order my ring.

2:57:05 Please give me the shaking of the nuts on the plane thing. We already did that a couple times. We did it like five times this year. They like it. It's what the people want. Okay. Give them what they want. Shaking of the nuts. All right, we got that. Shaking the plane thing. I always felt attacked by it, but also, oh, I guess he's a nut fister. Oh. But I think it's hilarious. Listen to that show live. Love to everyone in the No Agenda world. God bless you all. Sir, below. Just go for it, John. Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying. And I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch.

2:57:46 Guy takes his bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand, and then he makes a fist around the nuts. Around the nuts. And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop. And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist. Then he does it again. He shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell to watch. All the way to the end. Yeah, Jonathan Staples from Pierre, South Dakota comes in with $350.

2:58:27 I would like to ask for prayers in my effort to escape apartment living and find a place in the country. You've got prayers. Kent George, Santa Monica, California, 343.75, and says, in memory of JCD and in deep gratitude to Adam and the rest of Noah Nation for many years of deconstruction-induced amygla shrinkage and laughter. Love and support to Adam in the next phase of life, and we'll be with you. Sir James P. Reed Smith, do you say Nepian? Nepion, Ottawa, Ontario. Ontario, Canada, requesting a Baron title, accounting below for Ottawa, Canada. Longtime listener from the daily source code DAZE.

2:59:09 Subscribed to it because I thought it would be about programming, but stayed for the great audio talents, Adam. Thank you for the great times with JCD. The show will be missed. It really helped me grow into adulthood. Best wishes to John's family. 333 and a penny. Thank you. 306 from the Future Knight of Brasilia, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. In the morning from Future Night of Brasilia, a step closer to Knighthood. Who do you think will win the Brazilian election? Lula or Bolsonaro? Well, Bolsonaro is my guest idea. Yeah, trust me, Bolsonaro. Drone Dork Will from Cedar Park, Texas, with $280.

2:59:46 He says, I've been listening since Rogan won appearance and No Agenda trained me to question everything the media says and to just figure out everyone is a spook. I've been missing JCD a lot since he pulled through with his exit strategy and hearing Adam become the grouse boomer in his stead has been entertaining. As with all good things, they don't last forever. I'm glad you have a plan, a calling, something that will satisfy you in the podcasting realm post-No Agenda. I will pop in to hear what you and Pastor Jimmy are doing. This last donation will put me over the line for my knighthood. I'd like to be known as Sir Drone Will of the big, beautiful skies. I want Barks, Red Cream, Tacos de Boyo, and Ohio Buckeyes, the candy at the round table.

3:00:26 I like those. I want my drops to be R2D2 Karma, any of the Rev Alclips. One last thing: I'd like to get a cancer prayer for my mom who's doing so well right now. She doesn't need the karma. She needs the prayers. Much love, Drone Dork Will. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got Karma. All right, so you've got to mark it down, babe. Where's mom? Drone Dork Will put her on the list. Sarah Nielsen, Valmorin, Quebec. She's a Quebecian, Canada, 277.77, which actually might make her an executive producer.

3:01:11 Yes, it is. It's a challenge coin. It's Dollarettes, Canadian Dollarettes. We honor those, which has always been a very bad thing for the PL. We have always honored the Dollarettes from Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Two coins is better than one. Here's another 388.83 JCD Challenge Coin donation in Canadian pesos. And that brings me just over the Damehood Nights, Damehood status. Thank you, Adam JCD, and the Vorak Clantina, guest hosts, and all producers for all that you've done and for all that will come. I've worked in no particular order as a stewardess on a double-decker bus going from Copenhagen to Barcelona twice a week.

3:01:48 This was glorious in 98-99. Bricklayer for one week, follow spot on Phantom of the Opera, traveled for seven years around the world with a circus, handwork teacher, ran a farm for. for a minute, had horses, and so much more. But now I get to run a weaving shop for adults with special needs. And this is by far the most rewarding job I've ever had. If any of you would like to see what we do, please check out BitFrost Fibers on Instagram. Since I love what I do, I would like to be known as Dame Sarah, Slayer of Reeds, and Protector of Looms. At the roundtable, I would like smoke, but no herring. Jingle, I love my truck, and I'll be imagining that this says, I love my looms and I love what I do.

3:02:35 Okay. ITM Carmen All from Sarah Kring in the Laurentides, Quebec, soon to be Dame Sarah, Slayer of Reeds and Protector of Looms. And here's your truck and looms. I love my truck and I love what I do. Yes. Nice. Sergey Robb from Colorado Springs comes in with $269.69. Howdy, it's Sergey Robb, protector of the Branch Circuits, owner of ENJ Electric here in Colorado Springs. Anybody in or around the area looking for a good electrician, find us on Google Maps, shoot us an ITM, and we'll get you hooked up. I'm thinking that it was 2010 when a Mexican named Mike introduced me to the show while driving around.

3:03:14 I'm a Mexican named Mike. Right. While driving around for work, I was listening to a bunch of Alex Jones and a morning show out of Denver called Lewis and Florwax. It was around that time. Lewis. Lewis and Florwax in the morning, everybody. It was around that time that our local radio stations stopped playing Lewis and Florwax. So Lewis became Adam and Florwax became John. I don't know what any of you all looked like, so that mental imagery was weird for a while, but it worked for 16, but it worked out. 16 years later, the very same Mexican named Mike and I are still working together and listening to No Agenda in the Truck. Thanks for everything, Adam. What you and John did was that's really nice. Hey, there's Manuka Gold, the family from Hudson, Florida, $250.

3:03:58 The best cream. And they say from the Manuka Gold family, we wanted to stop in and say thank you for 19 amazing years. And Adam, we're excited to follow your journey over to WGTDT.com. Listeners, of course, can still get 20% off all our premium Manuka Honey products over at ManukaGold.com. Adam20 will stay active for all our ITM family with infinite gratitude. Royce Kokami from Hawaii comes in with $233.99. I'm sad to see things come to a close, but it's understandable. Ever since Adam helped Steve Jobs get podcasts onto iTunes, I jumped on the bandwagon, started listening to dozens of shows over the years.

3:04:37 But there were only a finite of shows that kept rising to the top: No Agenda, Cranky Greeks, DH Unplug, and a few others. Also, happy birthday to my friend Chris and his cousin Hillary Clinton. Oh, just joking. They're not cousins, but I always like to poke fun since they were both born on October 26th. She's about 100 now, right? I think so. And can I get a karma shot for Bonnie and John on their recent move and their wedding? And for Bonnie's business as well, Bonnie's Bullets and Barrels. Check her out if you need firearms training. I still follow DH Unplug, and I just recently started We Get to Do This. And I'm looking forward to whatever other endeavors you guys have.

3:05:16 The same things make us laugh, make us cry. God bless and take care of Royce. Oh, lovely. Yeah, that was nice. You've got karma. Ah, he sent me an email to Baron Anonymous Cop. This is a lovely guy. Green Brake, California, 225. Just wanted to toss some shekels your way for some extraordinary shows, both on No Agenda and We Get to Do This, especially this last episode with Dana. As we all maneuver this earthly life of constant change, keeping our faith and sharing it with others must be kept a lot kept alive, not just for our own sanity, but for the sake of mankind. I hope that makes sense. I'm coming off a few days of graveyard shift. I know time doesn't completely heal all wounds.

3:06:00 I sincerely hope things are going well as they possibly can be. Just wanted to check in. If you happen to come back up to the Bay Area for a meetup in the future, I can finally say hi in person. I still kick myself for not being able to get time off to see JD at any of the meetups over the whole history of the show. As we say at the police station, keep on doing God's work. And you too, brother. That is God's work. Cheers. Baron Anonymous Cop. And thank you also for all the boots on the ground over the years. Barb Coons comes in from Parts Unknown with 224.69 and no note. Skies Window Cleaning, 21060. From Bello Fair, Washington. If you've got dirty windows, check out Skies Window Cleaning. I wish you were in Fredericksburg. Eli the coffee guy comes up from Bensonville, Illinois with 210.25.

3:06:45 And he says, The 19th anniversary of the No Agenda and the Pen Ultimate Show is the perfect occasion to update my peerage status. According to the accounting, I'm a Grand Duke. Woo! Congrats. To celebrate at the roundtable, I would like a Costco Bordeaux and a coffee-rubbed ribeye. That's Tina. That's Tina Spray. I do coffee-rubbed tri-tip. Yep, with their spreadsheets. Yes, exactly. I would also like to use the remainder of my donations to bestow knighthoods on my sons, Ethan and Miles, as one day this show will be part of their homeschool curriculum. That's cool. And for them at the roundtable, their favorite foods, breast milk, and blueberries. It's a breakfast of champions, people. I can't say how much the show has meant to me over the years.

3:07:28 Adam, I'm very thankful for you, John, the Dvorak family, and all the producers who helped make the show the best podcast in the universe. Could you hail a taxi at the end of the show for old time's sake? Godspeed. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy. Gosh, I don't remember hailing a taxi. It's like, taxi! I think it was just something John did. I think he just did that live. He did it live. Hailing a taxi. You don't have it? No, I think it was just the thing that he did from time to time. Thank you, Eli. And thank you, Linda Lupatkin, Castle Rock, Colorado, another staunch supporter of the No Agenda Show. $200. She just wants job karma. And as always, she says, hey, you know, AI can write your resume.

3:08:11 The problem is he can write everyone else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a resume that gets results. Go to imagemakersinc.com. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And Linda Liu, Dutchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes, because it takes more than a good-looking resume. All the best from Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Can I just say it's freezing in the studio? My hands are like ice.

3:08:49 Really? That's how I like it, babe. Yeah. Brian Peele, Lewisburg, Tennessee, comes in with $200 and he says, for a parking lot that no longer looks like a landfill with stripes on it, go to garbagegoatstn.com for all your parking lot sweeping, litter removal, and property cleanup needs. That's garbagegoatstn.com. And work with Brian Peele and his licensed and insured Garbus Goats, chief picker-uppers of southern Middle Tennessee. And some goat karma for the herd, please. Brian Peele, Lewisburg, Tennessee. P.S. Credit, credit where due. This note was put together with some help from Muse. Oh. Yeah. Adam recommended it strongly. Muse

3:09:32 regrets it. Cannot take your call on the bake light phone. Bake a light phone. You've got karma. Hey, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers. You're not done yet. For episode 1915 of the best podcast in the universe, our 19th anniversary celebration, which has been nothing but a train wreck from beginning to end, but it's been so lovely. Of course, these credits will always be recognized and useful anywhere Hollywood credits are used. So LinkedIn, LinkedIn, any of your social media profiles. And of course, at imdb.com, where you will find thousands of similar producers, some of them with Hollywood resumes.

3:10:16 Thank you again for your courage and for supporting the No Agenda Show. Our formula is this: We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And we continue all the way to the 50s. Michael Eager from North Bethesda. Oh, wait, no, you missed. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Sergei. Well, why don't you do that one? Sergei Timotin from Burlington, Ontario, Canada. 191. Hold on, I got to get my cursor up here because I wasn't prepared to read that one. Hold on. 191.40. Hi, guys. I was really sad when I found John C. Dvorak passed away.

3:11:01 Please accept this donation and dedouch me. You've been dedouched. Well done. While it is not too late and No Agenda is still aired. Sergei from Burlington, Ontario. There's Michael Eager from North Bethesda. Bethesda. That's a tough one. Massachusetts, $190.30. Adam and friends, this donation brings to knighthood. I wish to be called Sir Eager of the Outer Swamp, DMV, host of Eager to Be Healthy. I wish to have Dosa. It goes well with the mutton, Linda Tager, and cooch kush at the table. I have no idea what that is, but they ordered it. I'm glad you're reading it. It smells horrible. I wish I had done this when John was alive.

3:11:43 When he got sick, I increased my donations. He always sounded happy on NA. He kept his mind sharp, and most of all, we want those. those we care about to be healthy. Listening to No Agenda made me a better podcaster. It validated converting to a cheap, low editing style, focused on content I wanted to hear myself, Adam. You have always impressed me on the amount of informational bandwidth you can handle while staying present in the conversation. Regarding a question you raised in Podcasting 2.0 on video podcasts, for most of us, the video feed is just a result of using Meet, Skype, or in my case, Riverside to record a podcast. Little or no effort to package and have it on YouTube for discovery. Those who use 4K cameras and custom studios are the exception.

3:12:24 I would love to explain my agentic editing system to Comic Strip blogger one day. Hit him up on X. I will continue to follow Friends of NA with Podcasting 2.0 being my favorite so far. No jingles, no karma, but with gratitude, Sir Eager of the Outer Swamp, hosts of Eager to Be Healthy. Next up, Nathan Roka from Adelaide, South Australia with 13607. Hail, comrades. This donation is what is Heil. Heil. Heil, comrades. Heil. This donation is well overdue and pales. You don't know. I don't. So back in, this is PT. Okay. Obama would always say, Hi, and we went, Heil. Oh,

3:13:05 Hil, Obama. Hi, comrades. Okay, this donation is well overdue and pales in comparison to the value I received over the years. I wish I could have sent more treasure, but thanks to Elmer Fudd, solo dad life in this flailing economy of the land down under has kept things on a tight budget for a while now. Despite the hard times, I simply could not live with myself if I remained an internal douchebag. Keep reading. Oh, and with your pending exit strategy, I need to rectify this immediately. Please deduce. You've been deep. It's harder than it looks, right? It is. I mean, I'm telling you. It's a talent. It's a talent. It's a skill you develop over the years.

3:13:45 And you develop a rhythm, too. So, anyway, the No Agenda show has been a regular part of my life since the COVID scam, and I'm truly going to miss listening to you and JCD touting your unique perspectives on all the happenings around the world. It was so refreshing to hear the global news from a realistic, grounded point of view, and to know that there was an entire No Agenda nation of people who saw things with similar sanity. It's bizarre to feel like I'm losing two friends despite having never met either of you in person, which truly speaks to value you have both provided. There will forever be a No Agenda-shaped hole in my life. To see me through the post-podcast times, please dose me up with a healthy serve of goat karma.

3:14:26 Thank you for your courage. May you forever be in the morning. Nathan Roca from Adelaide, South Australia. You've got Karma. Lassie Jensen, I think Lassa Jensen from Denmark, $100. In the morning, this donation brings me to knighthood. All good things must come to an end, and endings are just new beginnings. How true it is. Before the mic drops, I'd like to be knighted Sir Raffen Raffen, Bane of Goblin Ingratiators and Protector of Eurasia. At the roundtable, I'd like apples and milk. For jingles, Canageda, you pigs in human clothing. Regards and well wishes. Thank you for your courage. Fear is freedom.

3:15:10 Subjugation is liberation. Contradiction is truth. Those are the facts of this world. And you will all surrender to them. You pigs in human clothing. Another classic. Classic. Where did that come from? That's from a cartoon. And then I mix the marching things underneath it. Next is Rianne Kaczynski from Carslan. Is that Alberta? Yep. Okay. And she gives 88.88 plus fees in honor of our great owl and favorite camrudgeon. 136.77 Canadian Buckaroos. Congratulations on the grandbabies.

3:15:51 Birthday shout out to myself, October 26th, turning 43. Thank you so much for your years of dedication and courage. Missing John so much. I can't lose you too, Adam. I will see you at WGTDT. RIP JCD and long live No Agenda in our community. Cheers to 19 years, Rianne. Joseph Hatch, Melbourne, Florida, 9289. I'm going to miss my twice-weekly dose of sanity. Adam, I pray you find peace and happiness with all your new endeavors. Please anoint me today as Baron Servant, protector of the space coast and neighboring sand. Also, please throw in some goat karma. Thank you for 20 amazing years. Very nice.

3:16:31 You've got karma. Here you go. Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, lover of boobs, 8008. It says 1915 BOOB donation. PFA. PSA, Boob Cancer Awareness Month. Big or small, we love them all. That's right. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Caleb from Cross Plains, Wisconsin, 7344. All I want is the Dvorak mac and cheese jingle. One last time. Well, since you ask, that is melted cheese and cheap cheddar. There we go. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, macaroni, and cheap cheddar melted together.

3:17:16 Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Everybody. Tanya Wyman. Oh, Dame Tanya. Yes, I connect with her on Instagram, New York, New York, 6969. A final swazzlenuff ahead of Adam's final bow. I can't possibly express how much this show has meant to me. So I'll just say thank you so much, Adam and John, for everything and all the fish. Love to you all. Do you know the reference? No, I think it's Monty Python. Okay. Thank you for the fish. Stephen Tesler, West Orange, New Jersey, my old stomping grounds, 5272. Adam, thank you for 19 years. He says, you and John have kept me company when I needed it most.

3:17:58 I found you because of John. Learned to appreciate you very much. I'll miss you. All the best, Stephen Tesler. And then next comes in Brant Wessel from West Salem, Wisconsin. And he donated $50, and all he says is, I am gay. You know, Brian. Woo, Stephen. Oh, this is the last one. Stephen Reganold, Reginald, Collierville, Tennessee. Lit, love, and light, Adam. Cannot thank you enough. You are loved. Christ be with you. And thank you all very much. And thank you for everyone who donated under $50. As you know, we never do anything under $50 for reasons of anonymity. And there's good reasons for it. But of course, everybody can support the show by going to noagendadonations.com.

3:18:42 Again, we will continue to honor everybody's challenge coin donations. You want to finish up your knighthood, your damehood. We'll get the ring out to you. That is going to continue for as long as it takes, as far as I'm aware. And I think that's really nice. And of course, we still have a final show on Thursday. And Andrew Horowitz will be joining me. I promise you not to bring in those other hoodlums. We'll have an actual show with Media Deconstruction. I'm sure a couple of look backs at everything that took place over the past 19 years because Andrew has been a big part of it throughout all those years. Noagendadonations.com. You can always set up a recurring donation if you want. You can still do it. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com. Thank you, everybody. It's your birthday.

3:19:30 Well, we finally have somewhat of a resemblance of a list. Sir J-Mo, Black Baron of North Idaho, turned 54 on the 23rd. Royce Kokami wishes Chris a happy birthday. That is tomorrow. Rianne Kosinski turns 43 tomorrow and the 26th. Knight Bradley Selzer wishes Dame Karen a very happy birthday. She turns 56. And Justin Gadbury wishes his daughter Cameron a happy birthday. And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday. Title changes. Turn and face the slaves. Don't want to be introduced to me.

3:20:10 Sir Rick Haskins becomes Baron of Stephen City. Dame Jam in a Jar becomes a Baronetus. Sir Chris, Knight of the Refugees, becomes Baronet. Chris of the Northland. Dr. Sir Commodore Mike will be a Viscount. Sir Brian with an I finally becomes a Baron. Sir Bilo will also be a Baron. And Baron Hood also for Sir James P. Reed Smith. Congratulations, all of you, and thank you for your additional support to the best podcast in the universe for the amount of $1,000 or more. And now we have the challenge coins. The following producers will be receiving of Challenge Coin, Mahanga Silver, Laura Hartman, Frizzell, Dame Astridge, Sir Mark, Joel Cox, Brent Strico, Anonymous, Ed Crowe, Kainer Coleman, Gary Barnick, Ethan Falk.

3:20:58 Well, we still got the birthday thing going on there. Hold on a second. So much happening at the same time. Gary Barnick, Ethan Falk, Cynthia Sholta, Brian Ellsbury, Glenn DeSantos of the Land of Soft Bank, Alex Delgado, Sir Deanonymous, Justin Gadbury, Edward Sheldrake, Sir J-Mo, Black Baron of North Idaho, Robert P. Dame Booley Steed, Knight Bradley, Selser, JCV, Justin Palmer, Sean Fitch, William Montana, Bill, Sir Daddy Cass Baron of the Center of the Universe, Plum Tucker Anonymous, Sir No Plus, Sir No PI, Sir Egghead, Sir Michael, Protector of the Peas, Laura here, here,

3:21:37 Robert Dietrich, Dylan, Glenn Pope, Seth Donnelly, Donnelly, Sir Roger of the Borough of Hats, the CyberSeek organization, John Lips, Will from South Carolina, Christian Saunders, Sir Zuki of Enoshima, Alexander Estalk, Jacob Wickland, Sir Quill Scout, AJ Bolin, William Bracken, Sir Brian Black Knight of the Royal Wooten Bassett, David Bauker, Surprise Knight of Astonishment, Baron Tony in Chicago, and Dame Not a Serial Killer, Kate, Nicholas Ficklin, Dr. Sir Commodore Mike Craig P, Michael Fair, Don Moroda, Jonathan Chu, Chow, Sir Brian with an eye, Sir Bilo, Sarah Nielsen, and Brian Taylor.

3:22:16 All of you head over to NoAgendarings.com. There's a link right there for you to let us know where to send your JCD challenge coin. Whatever you do, don't just send a random address to the email. Please do it through the form. It'll make everything a lot easier for Jay in the back office. She just had a baby. Make it easy on her. Thank you all for supporting the No Agenda Show, and I hope you enjoy your JCD challenge coin. See how much work this is? Yes. And they had a lot. That's a lot of coins. We have a number of layaway knights. Sir, son of a jack. Let's see. This is from Greg from Indian Trail, North Carolina. I've listened to No Agenda.

3:22:59 These are people who've been on 11-11 or 12-12 for years. I've listened to No Agenda since almost the beginning, pre-show 100. Have been a $5 a month contributor for almost as long. I realized sometime earlier this year, I had reached knighthood, but I kept putting off formalizing the deal. When John died, I knew I had to make this happen. And now, well, I can't miss the opportunity to have at least Adam night me. Tina the Keepro has her sword here as well. So you do. I admit that's the one that I got in Boise. Yes. Yes, I see. I miss my grumpy friend John. I'll miss you, Adam. I cried when I read of John's passing, and I cried maybe even more when I heard you profess your faith in Christ because it was truly an answered prayer. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. So many things to say, but I'll wrap up by asking you to knight me, sir, son of a jack.

3:23:44 Please serve your darkest imperial stout at the roundtable. If it's not too much to ask, it's been a while since we heard fluoride in your cup and maybe a WTC7. You know, actually, I can do those. Let me see. Fluoride. Fluoride in my cup. Where is that thing? Oh, man. Fluoride. I thought it was fluoride. Fluoride. Well, that's spelling it right. Yeah. Here it is. And the WTC7. Okay. Yes, we have both of those. Is fluoride in my cup? WTC7 won't go away.

3:24:29 Mark Dunford, also layaway knight, has achieved $1,000 level as required by the Peerage Committee of the No Agenda Show. I've been contributing off and on since the Streamlined Camper Days. I love the show throughout the years. Can't wait for the Pod Father's Future products. Hear ye, hear ye. Let it be known throughout the Central Texas Basin and beyond that this worthy petitioner seeks recognition among the noble knights of the No Agenda Show in recognition of their allegiance to the cause, their appreciation of the art of deconstruction, and their willingness to serve the greater good of the kingdom of value for value. The requested title shall be Knight of the Central Basin, Defender of the Basin, Servant of the Producers, Guardian of the Show.

3:25:08 Thank you for your courage, says Mark Dunford. Seth, ITM, began my No Agenda journey sometime in 2020 after hearing on Rogan, episode 1436, March of 2020, which led me to Mo Fax and eventually to No Agenda. One day, while listening to episode 1364, I got some fast food and my order number was the same as the episode. And I knew then the universe was telling me I needed to donate, so I set up a monthly subscription and I've reached baronet status. Over the years, I've meant to request my knighting, but always thought I'd do it later. With John's passing and now your confirmed exit strategy, I knew I could not wait any longer. I appreciate all that you and John have done over the years and wish you the best in your new endeavors. As I like to say, don't be sad that it's over.

3:25:50 Be happy that it happened. I'm requesting the title of Sir Seth, Silent Knight of the Uptown, Protector of the Elder Force. And he'd like a dedouch. You've been deduced. For the roundtable, I request a Jungling Lager and a medium rare sirloin. Godspeed. Thank you for your service. Alex Mandel, he wants to be Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley at the roundtable. Protein powder white Russian. Bowl of Texas Red Chili Mix from Green Bay, Wisconsin. Thank you, Alex Mandel. Sir Daviator and Dame Mama Sita. Hello, Adam, and also Layaway Knight. I've been a listener since the daily source code days, the first episode of the No Agenda Show. I'm 50 now. I feel like I've spent most of my adult years listening to Adam and John.

3:26:34 I've finished a basement, put in a yard, built various pieces of furniture, and driven about 3,800 hours while listening and being educated and entertained by the two of you. I came as a fan of Adam's wit and fastidiousness for supreme, superb audio quality, but learned to love John too. He was truly a giant of a man with an endless well of wisdom. When I first heard about John's passing, I mourned for him and his family, then hoped Adam would find a way to keep the show going. Deep down, I knew that wasn't possible. The show would never have been the same without JCD. I became a sustaining producer in April of 2017 when I started a monthly $20.17.

3:27:14 I know I received more value from your news deconstruction perspective on the world than I've returned, but I feel honored nonetheless to be considered part of the No Agenda Roundtable. Never claim my knighthood, but I've reached it twice because I felt I never had anything profound to contribute. Didn't want to clutter up the show with another note. So I'm doing it now. I also wanted to share my knighting ceremony with my keeper. I'd like to be knighted Sir Daviator, Dave Eator, like Dave with Aviator. I got it. And I'd like my wife to be named Dame Mama Sita. Our best wishes to the Vorak family and the future version of the No Agenda show, however, they may look. I started to listen to We Get to Do This, and I've been very interested and encouraged by Adam's journey to a discipleship of Jesus Christ.

3:27:55 I'd love to hear your enthusiasm for helping others find salvation. Thank you for everything. A hearty in the morning, your brother in Christ, the Sir Daviator. Yes, sorry for the long note. No, you're not. It's literally my first in 19 years. Ross Reynolds, in the morning, it's with great joy and sadness I send this email claiming my knighthood and protectorate. I've been a $4 show donator since February of 2019. After John's passing, I checked my accounting. I'm at $1,655.55. You see how that adds up? Yeah. I was hit in the mouth by the Grimericans around the time that I punched many people in the mouth since then. When I first heard of Value for Value, I took it to heart by noting a couple of cases of beer to Adam directly from my old employer, Austin Beer Works.

3:28:37 I remember I had a lot of those in the fridge for a long time. I dropped it off at Adam's condo in Austin, then organized the first Austin meetup at Austin Beer Works later that month. You remember there was like 200 people there. You were there. The knowledge I've gained about media deconstruction from the best podcast in the universe is invaluable and will live on with myself and all the producers well beyond the life of the show. Condolences to the Dvorak family. Ross Reynolds of Unconsolidated Hayes County, Texas, for my title and protectorate, I'd like to humbly claim, if available, what it doesn't say. Oh, Ross Reynolds of the Unconsolidated Hayes County, Texas. At the roundtable, I'd like homemade pizza, Flavor County country, flavor country, pale ale, and Traveler's Whiskey.

3:29:20 And then the final layaway note from Jeff. Adam, been listening since high school. I'm 33 now, and what stands out is how steadily the show has been there. From high school study hall, closing a movie theater after a long shift, high school heartbreaks and college hangovers, late-night exam study sessions, traveling alone abroad, marrying my smoking hot wife, starting my first job after graduation, and the jobs that came after. COVID, when the world felt sideways and their familiar show was something to hold on to. The births of my two awesome sons, saying goodbye to my mom after her fight with cancer, and a year later, the heartbreak of losing JCD. Through all of that, No Agenda wasn't background noise. It was a steady hand.

3:30:02 Funny when I needed a laugh, clear when the news was a mess, and somehow always waiting when life got loud. I'm most grateful the show kept showing up alongside those moments week after week for so many years. Saying goodbye isn't easy. I'll miss it deeply. Thank you truly for the years of Value for Value for the company on hard days and ordinary ones for a show that felt like a constant while everything else kept changing. It meant more to me than any donation could ever capture. Please knight me Sir Jeff of the Closed Loop and put Jimmy John's number nine on the round table for me, Jeff from Cincinnati. Okay. Well, are you ready? Let me see. Do I have them all here? Oh my goodness. We've got a bunch of knights and dames. You got your sword? Yes. Pull it out. Okay.

3:30:48 Spiffy. Well done, lady. Well done. Yes, there's mine. All right, Mrs. Jensen, Cynthia Scalter, PJ, AJ Bolin, Jessica, Sarah Nielsen, Eli the Coffee Guy, along with Brian Taylor, Joel Cox, Anonymous, Ed Crow, Gary Barnick, Brandon Ellsbury, Glenn Pope, William, Christian Saunders, David Bauker, Drone Dork, Will, Sir Ethan, Sir Miles, Michael Eager, Lessa Janssen, Joseph Hatch, Greg, Matt L., Mark Dunford, Joe Markgraff, Alex Mandel, Seth, David Jansen, Jeff, and Ross Reynolds. All of you, get ready. It is time for me to pronounce the KB.

3:31:29 with the following titles. Dame Mama Sita, Dame Cynthia of the Lowlands, Dame DJP Golden, Dame Siren Sabotage of Saboteur of Subterfuge, Dame Jessica of Smashville and the Commodore Lowlands, Dame Sarah, Slayer of Reeds and Protector of Looms, Grand Duke, of course, Eli the Coffee Guy. Sir Speed Skater, Knight of the Attics, Barker Reservoir and Katie Park, Sir Engineer of Most, Master of None, Sarah Frothy Mix, Knight of the Maryland Piedmont, Sir Ed Crowbar of the Lakewood Ranch, Sir Gary of the Dive, Sir Homebound, Sir CAD Manager, Sir William of the South

3:32:09 Carolina Midlands, Sir Chris Knight of the Referees, Sir David of Smashville and the Commodore Lowlands, Sir Drone Will of the Big Beautiful Skies, Sir Ethan, Sir Miles, Sir Eager of the Outer Swamp, Host of Eager to Be Healthy, Lassa Jensen, Sir Raphan Roth, Bane of Goblin, Ingratiators, the Protector of Eurasia, Baron Sir Vaughan, Protector of the Space Coast and Neighboring Sands, Sir Son of a Jack, Sir Matt, Knight of the Central Texas Basin, Mark Dunford, Sir Dude Named Joe, Knight of the Drizzle, Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley, Sir Seth, Silent Knight of the Uptown Protector of the Elder Forest, Sir Daviator, Sir Jeff of the Clothes

3:32:49 Loop, and Sir Ross Reynolds of Unconsolidated Hay Texas. For you, gentlemen and dames, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. Along with that, we have Mienta Symphony 2 reposado tequila. We have Porterhouse Steak and Fries, Pulled Pork and PBR, Hot Sake and Unagi, Barbecues, Red Cream, Tacos de Pollo, and Ohio Buckeyes, the candy. Schmarsborns, but no herring. Costco Bordeaux and a coffee rub ribeye, breast milk and blueberries, dosa, apples and milk, bowls of red chili, Texas red chili mix from Green Bay, and white protein powder and protein powder, white Russian, darkest imperial stout, yungling lager and a medium rare

3:33:31 sirloin, Jimmy John's number nine. And we have homemade pizza flavor, country pale ale, and traveler's whiskey. Along with that, as always, we have the geishes and sake, the Ruben, Swoon, and Rose, the vodka, vanilla, bungets, and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablo, and of course at the round table, the mutton and the mead. Are you impressed? Adam. I just want to hear. That's a lot of work, babe. I'm so proud of you. That's what I'm telling you. I know. I know people think it's just like you burp in the microphone. Actually, you make it look so easy. This is the mistake we've always made. We're making it look way too easy. Go to noagendarings.com, and that is where you can size your fingers for the ring.

3:34:11 We have a ring sizing guide there. Make it nice and easy for you. And please give us an address where we can send it all off to, and we will get you your dame and night ring in as soon as possible. And thank you all so much for supporting the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe. We have one meter purport from Fort Wayne, the October Surprise Meetup. Adam, John, whoever the guest host is for the week, this is Fort Wayne getting together. We had seven in attendance. Passing around the phone. Michelle Beam here.

3:34:53 Sir, PBR Street Gang, wishing everyone. Yeah. Wow. Nice editing. Having a wonderful time in Fort Wayne. Thank you for your courage. Hey, it's Shelly from Fort Wayne. Jared from Cole Axe. Love AI. There's Michael and Michelle. Keep those kids safe on Halloween. And I'm just curious, are we going to have 50 Shades of Gemini or 50 Shades of Dr. Money? What's his name? Horowitz. Dr. Money. In the morning. All right, in the morning. Thank you all over. Dr. Money. Dr. Money. We have meetups coming up this Tuesday. The Shanghai Meetup, which I think is the first ever in Shanghai.

3:35:38 It'd be great if you show up at 8 o'clock at the Hilton Shanghai Greater Hong Chow in Shanghai, China. Our Dutch disaster savior, Sir Avered Bop, the Avord Bop, will be organizing that. We have Saturday, the Halloween lunch in Cooper Country, 2 o'clock at the Ford Foodsmith in Hancock, Michigan. On Sunday, the WDAWKT meetup. That's We Drink and We Know Things. Oyster Saints and Bloody Marys, 3 o'clock in New York and New Jersey. I'm sorry, at the 3BR, New Jersey. Wednesday, Raleigh, November to Remember meetup, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina.

3:36:20 On Thursday, our next show day, and final show day. We don't like this Axis strategy. Meetup 6 o'clock at the parlor in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Also on Saturday, the Northern Silicon Valley in memory of John Meetup 2.0333 at Club Mallard in Albany. Go say hi to baby Nora. There's a couple on Saturday, actually. The Flight of the No Agendas number 82, Leo Bravo, organizing everybody on the 22nd Street landing in San Pedro, California. Let's say Connected and Protected 5 o'clock in what is this, Pamster Dam? Oh, so this is in the Netherlands. You got an RSVP at NoAgendameetups.com for that. The end of an era meetup, 6 o'clock. Also, well, it's Central European time, but this time in Zurich, Switzerland.

3:37:05 Black Knight Sir Suisse Senna, who has organized many there at the Rooftop Bar. Go say hi to him. Sunday, November 8th, the TMI Evac Zone Price is Right Meetup 3:30 at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. The North Idaho Sanity Brigade Thanksgiving meetup on November 14th. That's a Saturday. That'll be in Post Falls, Idaho. Sir Scott the Jew organizing. You got to email for details. Get all that from NoAgendaMeetups.com. Also on November 15th, the Indie No Agenda Autumn Departure Meetup, 3 o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. Of course, Sir Mark and Dane Marie of the Greenwood hosting that forever. Thursday, the 19th of November, the North Georgia Odd Month Meetup, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

3:37:51 Charlotte's 33rd Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. And then we have November 21st, the Resist We Much meetup, 1:30 at the Pizza Factory in Dos Palos, California. Wow. That's a long one. Noagendametups.com. Go there to find out exactly where meetups are taking place near you. Remember, every single meetup will give you connection that brings you protection. These people will be your first responders in any emergency. If you can't find one near you for the future, many, many years beyond, you can always organize one yourself.

3:38:26 Go to noagendametups.com. It's very easy to do and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You to be where you want me. Triggered on hell aim. Kind of. You to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. And that concludes our 19th anniversary special thanks to Jason Calacanis, to Dana Brunetti, to Sir Rob Dewsphor, to Matt Long, and Andrew Horowitz, who will be joining me for the very last No Agenda show on

3:39:08 Thursday. I hope you all will join us then. Be on the lookout for a new episode of We Get to Do This on Wednesday, WGTDT.com, and we'll be sending out a newsletter about the new Dvorak Klan podcast, which will be partylineshow.com. Thank you, Tina, for being here, for helping with the donations. Oh, you're so welcome. I'm going to have Andrew do it on Thursday. We'll make him work a little bit. Dr. Money. Yes, Dr. Money. Dr. Money, as you know. Happy to help. End of show mixes from Mellow D. We've got Sir Jeremy Johnson. I think you'll really love Bill Montenay's end of show mix.

3:39:48 Some classic JCD bits in there. Until then, looking forward to seeing you all again on Thursday from Fredericksburg, Texas, the capital of the Hill Country, the center of the Hill Country. Adios, mofos, a hooey-hoo-eye, and such. This is the best podcast.

3:40:40 19 years will come to a close. We're sad to see Adam go go. Brother in Christ, we will follow him too. Wherever he goes, goes. It's the No Agenda Show. We never could have known. Without the best of rides and ever will be. Adam and JCD and the Dorbach family. It's the now agenda show. It'll certainly be missed. JCD and Adam forever are the best. Make sure to check out, we get to do this. It is something very special you don't want to miss. Adam and Jimmy, every single Wednesday, God calling Adam over his way.

3:41:30 But before this is over, there's still one more show: more media deconstruction, more things for us to know. It's the No Agenda Show. We never could have known without the best, there isn't ever will be. Adam and JCD and the Dorok family. It's the now agenda show. It'll certainly be missed. JCD and Adam forever off the best. And Adam forever off the best.

3:42:13 From the best podcast in the universe, a little farewell for our favorite media assassin. Thanks for the memories. The Thursdays and the shows. The jingles and the trolling and the stories no one knows. The media deconstruction. The clips that made us grow. And every time you told us to think things through our own.

3:42:54 Thanks for the memories. The knights and dames we knew. The value for value. And the producers coming through. For 19 years of madness. The laughter and the spin. We came for all the headlines, but stayed for you and John. So thanks for all the memories. The truth, the laughs, the fun. The best podcast in the universe. A most remarkable run.

3:43:36 And somewhere in the ether, we hear that old refrain: The world may keep on spinning, but it won't sound quite the same to Adam and John. Thanks for the memories in the morning. When we found ourselves in times of trouble, John would always help us see.

3:44:41 Speaking words of wisdom, JCD. And in our hour of darkness, he would cut right through the lunacy. Barking words of wisdom, JCD. JCD, JCD. Now it's so clear to me. I miss your words of wisdom, JCD. I think the broken-hearted people listening to the show agree. We loved his snarky answers, JCD.

3:45:27 And though he is departed, his sardonic perspicacity will live with us forever, JCD JCD, JCD. I think we all agree. We miss you in the morning, JCD. JCD, JCD. I know we all agree. We miss your words of wisdom, JCD.

3:46:15 Yeah, there's some dead dead, some dangerously good tips. Most people that will supervise you throughout your careers are full of crap. I can look at a guy and tell he's had a missector. 20-50 Mojolais are the best since the 1940s. I'll just say it's auternal get you late. You can get a neat coat on Craig's List for like a hundred bucks. The bugs eat the poisoned plants, we eat the bugs, and the little boys' dicks start to fall off. JCD, JCD, I just can't let it be. I miss your words of wisdom, JCD.

3:46:59 If Adam had a new idea that bordered on insanity, then crap, I've got the buzzkill, JCD Tell upon the M5M and run them through the 3x3 Barking words of wisdom, JCD JCD, JCD, RIP, JCD. We thank you for your courage, JCD JCD, JCD, R-I-P,

3:47:43 JCD. We miss you in the morning, JCD, JCD, JCD, R-I-P, JCD. We miss your words of wisdom, JCD. But here's the Zephyr coming. I have my gong and I'm on my way. Adios, Mofos.

3:48:24 The best podcast in the universe. Adios, Mofo. I call Bullcrap.