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00:00 Oh, Apple. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. And Sunday May 29th 2016 a time once again for your Give My Nation Media Assassination episode 829er! This is no agenda. Monitoring Band Projects And propagation to ensure maximum distribution. And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin, Tejas In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm getting it right the first time...I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot & Bonus Kill In The Mornin'! Yeah alright fine fine fine fine you are-you rock. I do yeah totally rock

00:42 Right off the bat, still raining across the plains. Oh yes! Just get a weather report you're right in the middle of it. Right now we're really at the edge of it so we keep getting big douses rain lots of excitement in the sky lightning thunder hail no hail rolling thunder rolling thunder which is just... It's almost like uh..it sounds like an like a California earthquake can feel You know what I mean? Yeah, so yeah that's the low note. And the low rolling...yeah and of course you know this it's obvious where this comes from we valiantly took to the rain sticks to help our Candanavian friends which at the same night it started raining there but as I already explained when we do the rain sticks it shows up in other places and of course me being in Texas makes nothing but sense

01:36 Well, at least you're not getting the hail. By the way is your Airstream trailer outside or inside? That's a good question It's supposed to be inside at the dealer if it's not and I get a hailstorm And its dented then they're gonna have to deal with that obviously Not all hail causes dents No but If you live in Texas You'll see cars driving around Hey, you know what you do right? You know what you always have handy in case there's a hailstorm. Everybody has a big baseball bat Yes! Bat them back to the sky No everyone has heavy blankets in their car or near the car because just throw the heavy blankets over and then it'll be safe Over the car yeah Not well driving I never heard that not while driving is about idea

02:36 I never heard that. It's interesting. So you were talking about the Greek guy? Yeah, I wanted to get to that before we forgot to talk about it and talked about it before this show. Oh no well... We were just talking about clothing, getting socks for Christmas and ties just before we started the show And I was going to say that Vladimir Vlad showed up in Greece under-reported here in the United States, of course. I'm always looking at the European news to have a little conversation about what could be going on but it was so odd Vladimir Putin shows up he got the full military guard the whole thing Well, this wasn't even covered here. Of course not! Especially the full military guard that looked nice red carpet everyone all decked out gun to the ready but the prime minister is... what's his name? Cyprus? What's the Prime Minister's name? He has a Greek name. Yeah some Greek name that would be correct he was just wearing an open shirt collar

03:32 It was very strange. Did he have gold chains? He should have! Full military honors and a warm welcome for Russian President Vladimir Putin in Athens At a joint news conference with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, Putin said Russian tourist numbers to Greece could jump threefold with improved visa arrangements. He also reiterated his position on Crimea. As for Crimea he says that question we consider to be closed completely it was an historical decision made by the people living in Crimea and Russia will not hold any discussions on this question with anyone

04:12 Vladimir Putin is visiting Greece as it searches for investors willing to help invigorate its ailing economy, while Moscow is looking for allies among EU members who could help lift or at least ease the sanctions imposed on Russia following its involvement in the Ukraine crisis. Now this of course all on the backdrop of a little G7 powwow This is interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting especially because the optics of the big military guard and then the laid-backness of the premier with no time... Hey Vlad, I do mams! Come on hang out. And this must be irking some people in...I don't know. There are a couple things at play here. Well one of them is the Turkey relationship with Russia

05:01 Yeah, because they had a big falling out and Turkey was one of the top spots where Russians used to vacation. Along with Cyprus which of course is right off the coast of Greece. Cyprus major and also... Also the French Riviera Yes, that's where all the Russian oligarchs would go and blow their money on buy bottles of champagne for the whole place. Club Cinq en Cinque baby! Centropay! And they'd go nuts and now that money is lost and it looks like its going to end up in Greece Well they already own half of Greece, some of them own beaches In fact I'm pretty sure they do All that was sold off Well since we're just... let's stick with F-Russia for a moment then couple things going on

05:45 And while we have this backdrop, NATO is about to start on a huge exercise known as... Ah, this is a good one. Operation Anaconda! Or otherwise known as Operation Big Swinging Dick Look at us Vladimir here we are Let's see, June 7 to 17th 31 thousand ground troops and sailors from 24 NATO and partner countries will stage enormous as according to Canadian news. Enormous land sea and air exercises to block a hypothetical Russian incursion from the east Yeah that's always friendly That's the way to do it

06:29 The State Department was questioned, of course they're always questioned about Russia and the sanctions and what has to happen. And I caught something which i didn't understand maybe one of our producers can help me figure it out or maybe it's just not true what the spokesholder is saying? Today, leaders of G7 including the US president adopted a declaration in Japan regarding the issue Ukraine-Russia they stressed that G7 stands ready to take further restrictive measures in order to increase cost of Russia. Could you clarify this point and what circumstances would lead to that step? Well, I think like I'm just going to say that we believe sanctions need to stay in place regarding Russia and regarding its actions in Crimea as well as in eastern Ukraine until it meets

07:20 its Minsk commitments and until it returns, which is a specific set of sanctions as well as returns Crimea for another set of sanctions to its rightful owners which is Ukraine. The path to alleviating sanctions is very clear Russia needs to comply with its Minsk commitments." Now the Minsk commitment which I of course looked at again says nothing about Crimea I don't remember Crimea ever being in play. Crimea doesn't even show up in the agreement, well no it may show up some... let me see I have the actual text here I do not think that it even shows up No! It does not even show up in the points and the points are you know its all about Donetsk and Luhansk That's what is mainly about but there is not something as vague saying you have to

08:15 What do you say, give it back? Yeah. In fact to Ukraine the rightful owners... Well no but the Ukraine you know they said yeah but obviously Russia didn't take it over They had a referendum. No, they didn't march people in there and take it by force. It was the public of...the Crimean public that voted it in even though thats..people are skeptical about that. Yeah well this is...well of course they're skeptical but this uh anyway its not in their so I don't understand maybe its impossible to achieve this He's making up as he goes along yeah And um looking there was a uh I thought I had a clip of Vladimir Putin saying that isn't gonna happen let me see where was that

08:57 Why is that not in my, in the folder? He already played the clip to see where he said it's not going to happen. There was something else... That doesn't matter, there was something else but RT had a very very funny report Which I'm gonna play this. I'm gonna play this RT report first no wait, I'll play it in different sequence We've this is all about the boots on the ground and of course we've been following boots on the ground We've been talking about the term boots on the ground by itself being just a horrible thing to say Because it diminishes the feet and legs and bodies that are in those boots on the ground And we had the you know the big

09:37 a laugh session with Kirby and Matt Lee at the State Department. Said, no no we've never said boots on the ground wouldn't happen which... We never said no boots on the ground! Gee I don't know oh no that was a different kind of boots on the ground so now we have some very irritating pictures from the Agent France Press AFP And you've got to be thinking that this is done on purpose. Who runs AFP, John? This is... You know it's considered to be a legitimate news organization obviously. Yeah I don't know probably French intelligence in cahoots with MI6 and who knows who Well they came out with pictures not just pictures but also video of US boots on the ground on the front line

10:22 with forces that they were supposed to equip, what is it? Train and assist. Equip and assist whatever it is like that not only are the on the front line a pull the trigger with their obviously recognizable hardware but they're wearing insignias of what Turkey believes to be the terrorist and that of course is the PKK or the other operation no it's the...they are The people's protection units, that's the... Yeah. But they have an insignia on their arm which is YPG. Now the Turks consider this to be the premier terrorist group and so we're first going ahead- And we're wearing this little- Our guys are wearing the YPG insignia on the front line. So this comes up in the press corps at the Department of Defense

11:17 at the Pentagon, and I'm playing this for a number of reasons. One so you can hear uh this is the denial that of course came first or the non-denial denial but also listen to the journalist and the things she says and the beliefs she holds about well just facts i guess and truths which is very worrisome if you look at the journalism being practiced today As the Kurds, I'm sorry. The Syrian Democratic Forces continue to push south from towards Raqqa that as they clear an area of ISIS and they quote unquote take that territory back then the forward line continues to move south with them but i think the thing that... Hold on stop stop stopping backing up yeah yeah best stopping backing up RERAC

12:01 quote-unquote take the territory back? Yes. This is all the stuff that is so messed up with, with the media...with the press! What is she talking about quote unquote? Is it just a whole thing of fiction?! She has a lot of these but I can't explain why she's saying this. She drops quote unquote? Yeah So..so I'll be talking to you. I've got a quote on quote clip for ya Adam You could maybe uh quote on quote play it for me Well that would depend if it has to be on the clip wheel let me see Oh, I'm sorry. You lose a turn. I quote unquote lose the term? You totally lose a turn! I quote unquote lose that quote-unquote turn quote-unquote unquote what do you so she's quoting somebody i just don't know who i presume it's the spokeshole well she's either you either quote somebody or you're using it in some sort of facetious or way to indicate that is not true there's a lot of reasons you'd say that but

13:15 I wonder if she did air quotes while doing it. No, because she didn't because i saw her but she kept looking over her shoulder at some other journalist and they're all nodding and when she would make grimacing faces like what? It would be better with video but let's listen again As the Kurds, I'm sorry, the Syrian Democratic Forces continue to push south from towards Raqqa. But as they clear an area of ISIS and they quote unquote take that territory back... I don't know what it means take that territory back. Maybe she said we call it take that territory back but really what you mean is obliterating citizens? Maybe that's it? There are more gems in this than the forward line continues to move south with them. But I think the thing that perhaps Louie and maybe everyone else

13:59 are surprising to us is that we've consistently been told that these 250 or 300 US forces that are there, are back. Now first of all another thing that irritates me is the number of forces...of boots, of troops whatever you want to call it It is either 250 orders 300 order 305 Is it so hard to give an exact number at that level? And when you say its either Pfft. Yeah, 250-300 also unacceptable to me you know that's a large percentage of 50 more or less.

14:45 a towards RACA with the SDF as opposed to staying in one fixed location. And I understand that you can't confirm, but... I understand that you can't confirm okay? She could say please confirm but okay. And I understand that you can't confirm but there's photographic evidence from an esteemed journalistic organization and they take photographic evidence at face value apparently. They find that troubling

15:27 There's so many examples of fake photography in the past decade alone. Journalistic organization that proves it, so you don't even have to confirm it, it's true. No! You don't even have to confirm it? Wow giving him an out... That's not okay Hey here is the issue we have photographic evidence okay that will be proof for you young lady would you please confirm this is happening and she says right there hey you don't even have to confirm Wow, that way to hold feet to the fire. Speaking truth to power baby. You know journalistic organization that proves it, so you don't even have to confirm it. It's true we can see that is true in the photos So I guess that's the question now the US troops they are rather than staying back and doing their training they're moving with the Syrians moving forward with the Syrians towards Raqqa And that seems to be a change from our understanding of what they were doing in the past We haven't talked much about our forces on the ground in Syria for all the reasons I've described

16:30 And I'm not going to get into it further here other than to tell you about their mission, how they've conducted themselves. This is a dangerous situation for them We're not gonna do anything to expose them to greater risk at this point They have been in close communication with the local forces on the ground Those commanders that they've been able to establish relationships with And they're going to continue to do so, carrying out their mission. And again not putting them in the lead of this fight but providing that support role for those forces and they are going to continue doing that. I think it's clear they are not in a leader of the fight but seems like they might be

17:06 bite at this point from the, that's what the photos show. But they're right there forward with the Syrians. I'll leave it for you to characterize fast talking. She's taken one too many Adderall this morning. Yes she has well in discontinued because Then we obviously concluded that these boots were wearing the YPG insignia on their uniform, which I have a funny RT clip about in a second. But first... Oh okay! How do we explain that away? And is this is this a typical behavior? I don't know. Have you ever I mean, i know that in World War II if we were behind enemy lines we might dress up as Nazis to try and do something... ...to trick them. But is this typical behavior?

17:52 That we act as if they want to even get in there. You just thought they're not members of that's probably even some Regulation or maybe even a rule about your funnier rules I'm sure we have a lot of military guys It'll tell us what they are, but yeah you can't just swap uniforms around. Oh, I'm in the Navy now all right So how do we explain this away? Well the Pentagon has answers first of all you know our policy here with regard to our special operations forces That we're not going to talk very much about their activities, where they are and what they're doing for obvious reasons. They're carrying out a mission. They are exposing themselves to significant risk and I'm not going to do anything up here that

18:36 in any way gives anyone the ability to identify where our forces are operating and what they're up to at any moment in time. Hope you would understand that." I do, I appreciate that concern but these are photos that are now publicly available and from the video that I've seen it appeared there wasn't any real reluctance not be filmed, to not be photographed by the Special Operations Forces So here we have something now on the record in the public domain and it's clearly US forces with a YPG insignia. My question is, is it appropriate to have a YPG badge on your shoulder? I'm not going to comment about specific photos what I will say is that Special Operations Forces when they operate in certain areas do what they can

19:29 If you will blend in with the community to enhance their own That huge gun he's carrying really blends in with a community. Hey that camo and then NVGs very your blending right in my friend I didn't notice ya Protection, their own security And it's special operations forces in the past have worked with partners and in the past have conducted themselves in such a way that they might operate in an atmosphere in which they are supportive of that local force, and they're advised to assist role. And they might be again for

20:15 It's the new optics for visual purposes. Our forces need to take the steps that they need to take in order to carry out their mission and protect themselves, and take every available step they can take to try again carry out their mission and be safe in the process of doing so. Okay now this does come due ahead finally but not before Russia today pretty much did a no agenda package on this whole deal?

20:58 It was so no agenda-like that I think we might want to send him an invoice. The pictures were snapped by an agency reporter for AFP. Pictures kind of give it away, the low profile helmets, the unique camouflage, the latest weaponry that doesn't go for export advanced and expensive communications gear these are American troops and they're armed to the teeth yet Washington maintains that they aren't there to fight They are not on the forward line They are providing advice assistance

21:44 Again, I'm not going to get into details but that mission has not changed. Their role has not changed they are not leading this fight they are supporting those forces that are at the leading edge. Funnily enough YPG SDF sorry officials... Now this is a great kicker listen roll that back for second you're gonna love this This is so typical. Funnily enough YPG SDF sorry officials on the ground reportedly saying these guys everywhere. They're on the ground, they're in the air, they are on the front line where the fighting is taking place against ISIS so clearly if you listen to them, they are involved in a fight We've heard for awhile Obama promised there'd be no boots on the ground in Syria

22:27 Well now you have boots on the ground in Syria funny thing is though insignia often the insignia American flags are missing from their uniforms and you have them American special forces with YPG and in this case white PJ That's an all-female unit of Kurdish fighters. This is the best part they don't actually have the ypg Insignias, they have the ypj which is the off female? The women tell you the way so our guys are wearing maybe that's just eat all wait a minute. That must not we got four badges, man Oh my god is this box? And it's good there YPG J whatever I think that's right slap it on have them American Special Forces with ypg and in his case white PJ That's an old female unit of Kurdish fighters with their insignia on instead

23:23 We are so dumb. I can't believe that! It might have been done on purpose just to humiliate the other side. That's possible, also these may be mercenaries it may not be you know enlisted... This is what i'm not fully understanding which is why the defense department guy said we don't know who these people are You say they're an American, the AFP say they are Americans but we have no evidence of that and they're not wearing any American flag or anything. What makes you think they are Americans? Why didn't they go in that direction? Plausible deniability Yeah Well I'd like to bring some more up here

24:00 That goes along with the American line of no boots on the ground, though it's no secret. And Washington in fact has perhaps been taking it as a bit of joke. I mean there is no point arguing the boots on the ground rhetoric. It's absolutely no point at all. I'm not disputing that we have troops on the ground and they're wearing boots! So there you go somebody in Syria is wearing boots So has Turkey reacted? What have they got to say about it? It's no surprise. Turkey is hacked off, really. That's a fine Russian term. The Turkish foreign minister now saying that... Well take a listen for yourself! It is not acceptable for US soldiers to wear YPG terrorist arm badges This is double standards two-faced the YPG has made more progress against Islamic State than anyone else yet Turks consider

24:52 These guys as well as... all Kurdish military units apart from Iraqi ones to be terrorists, blanket. And you now have the United States, a Turkish NATO ally their special forces wearing YPG insignias so you know Turkey's understandably very upset about this one. Somewhere I had a clip of the full statement from the Turkish Prime Minister who said hey they might as well just be wearing ISIS-Boko Haram insignias I can't believe i can't find it because it was a very nice clip. But anyway all of this did result in the following as per the pentagon. The fact of the matter is you know, it's not authorized uh so in this case

25:37 You know, they were directed to remove the patches. As far as any additional reprimands or anything like that I'm not aware but the bottom line and the important thing is that the situation has been corrected and we have communicated to our allies that such conduct was inappropriate. What do you mean to our allies? Turkey. Oh, okay. Our allies that such conduct was inappropriate and it was unauthorized. The Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Coguzoglu vented his country's anger.

26:20 They should also wear Daesh, Al-Nusra and al Qaeda insignia during their operations in other regions of Syria. They can also wear the Boko Haram insignia when they go to Africa." The YPG is the most powerful Kurdish Syrian militia backed by the US currently engaged in fighting ISIL close to the group's de facto capital Raqqa I think that is worth a mention on network news, on the 3x3 if the Turkish Prime Minister says hey you boots in American boots should wear Bokaraman senior when you're near them. You should wear Daesh! There was nothing... No of course not ...on any of the networks about this. They just ignored it they'd rather talk about their riots and San Diego anti-Trump stuff. Yeah. Which i do have one report on which I want to play out. I got a couple things Whatcha got?

27:15 Well, I got a... here we have.. I'm starting to go back and listen to NBC so i can see how Katie Turr is doing. The Trump hater And she's now just basically lying And it's actually, I think it's pretty sad that the way this goes. Let's...I want to discuss this aspect of the phony baloney debate that was supposed to happen between Bernie Sanders and Trump Yes now was this actually set up by Jimmy Kimmel? Was that where came from initially I have the whole genesis and i want everyone to pay careful attention. This was a supposed question left by Bernie on the Kimmel show to ask Trump, and here we go debate clip one. I think it's very unfair what's happening to Bernie Sanders actually and uh...and its system that is not good system. I asked Bernie Sanders because he will be here tomorrow too

28:12 to ask a question. Have you met Bernie? Have you guys ever met before? I've never really had the privilege. I see, okay so here's the question from Bernie he asked Hillary Clinton backed out of an agreement to debate me in California before the June 7th primary right are you prepared to debate the major issues facing our largest state and the country before the California primary, yes or no? He wants to know if you will debate him. Yes I am! How much is he going to pay me? You would do it for a price? What would that price be? Yeah because if I debated him we would have such high ratings and I think I should give take that money and give it to some worthy charity okay So if was done for charity right? If he paid a nice sum toward a charity I'd love to do that

28:59 Now, okay so what do we have established? Bernie's idea. Bernie's concept done on the Kimmel show, clip two reiterated the next night. And on the show last night I asked Bernie Sanders to give me a question to ask Donald Trump and vice versa and Bernie's question was will you debate me before the California primary on June 7th? And Trump said he would if the debate raised a lot of money for charity which it would be very unusual to have a debate like this which made for a lot of chatter today on cable news Can I interrupt for one second with a comment

29:35 about the charity thing and rich people. Back when I was rich, it's very easy when you have a lot of money to say, well do something and give the money to charity. Just wanted to point out that minor observation not really that important but it is very interesting where No matter what you do as a celebrity. You don't have to be rich, but as someone who is famous Everyone's pretty much okay with what you do? But whenever you go and like it's particularly with lawsuits if you fight someone then for your right I mean out of sued many publications for copyright infringement the minute you win money that

30:17 which of course is going to be a public document, the whole... well in this case in the Netherlands. The whole country says, well you really better be giving that charity man! It's really it's an odd thing when you apparently have money and success and fame but if you fight and you win people are always calling for you to give it to charity It's very odd. That should be, we should be able to on this show, we should be able to trace that to something because that is commonplace it's a societal thing and Trump himself when he said how much are you going to pay me then he had to think twice about it.

30:57 And then he came up with the charity thing, because at first he was thinking, yeah I'd pay dad and get some money out of this. Sure i'll do it! Yes yes oh my god I can't even say that... He's thinking to himself and then he says charity and brings up the charity thing. That's exactly how it works. That's at the point where you actually lost interest. Of course! Oh crap screw the charities but so anyway that was a now so we have established what happened Bernie came up with this idea and Trump said well, maybe for charity we could do it And that's the way it is but no and so Trump backs out of the thing and then next thing you know The networks and will start with the worst offender which has terror turn on NBC Yeah, they've reached. They've restructured the story completely and and lie about it She's a lot she is she's an unconscionable liar. She's terrible

31:51 at this report here she is blaming the whole thing on Trump. This clip three Mr. Trump has known to change his mind many times in a day. The presumptive GOP nominee first suggested the debate on Jimmy Kimmel Tuesday night in a bid to diminish Hillary Clinton. Now Sanders is trying to hold Trump to his word, daring him to get back in the ring. He's a bully he's a big tough guy well mr. trump what are you afraid of? It was Trump's idea now. It was Trump's idea and then she plays these negative clips about Bernie calling him out as a coward, the bully and an idiot And she plays this thing full cloth She made this up Okay well let's go back to ABC where this clip played originally This time they clipped from the original... ABC or CBS? I think it is CBS The last one is actually ABC which is where

32:46 this showdown began. So that you think they would get it right, but even ABC cheats! They don't cheat as much as she did she just lied but they cheat and give a kind of false presentation Trump is holding a rally in California there are protesters outside Carter Evans... Stop stop stop You're right this is CBS That's what I was trying to tell ya Yeah yeah you were telling me and I'm looking at the clip your're right Yeah, and this is a by the way. This is Jane Pauly who substitutes? Yeah And she has his unless you when you I didn't know she was doing that haven't seen her in a long time I watch for now She is interesting to listen to because

33:27 When you watch her, she sounds... looks natural. Sounds natural but when you listen to her she's a terrible prompter reader! But anyway go on sorry. Okay we'll start again Trump is holding a rally in California there are protesters outside Carter Evans is on the scene. Carter Jane, inside the San Diego Convention Center Donald Trump addressed thousands of supporters but California is fertile ground for the anti-Trump movement and there are a lot of protesters here as you can see behind me. And as the crowd grew they also got angrier. San Diego police were hoping to keep supporters and opponents apart

34:03 But late this afternoon, riot police intervened making arrests. This protester was beaten with batons but while the protests were mostly peaceful the crowd was hardly calm There is little doubt of where they stand and emotions have boiled over. This rally has also featured a broad array of protesters, not just Latino groups but Muslims union leaders and members from the LGBT community. Members of the LGBT community who live somewhere I think in Maine Well that's not the clip i wanted No Get it. What do you want? Well now I mean, I was just it was a backup to the Katie Tur clip And it was ABC doing the same thing only they they misrepresented this the whole case by re-editing The thing and I don't think you have a clip about that here. I'm looking Because I remember clipping it well no, I don't think so okay well there. I went through a lot of trouble and Do you remember what was on it oh?

35:07 Yeah, I remember exactly what was on it. And it was on ABC just as I had set it up and then... Oh well. Do you want to tell us? Yeah! ABC did the same thing that Katie Turr did only what they did was they took from The Kimmel Show And they left all the part out about Bernie and they had, they started off with Donald when if you listen to that original clip number one where he says yeah I'd be glad. I would like to debate well no when we debate i'd like to do this or like do that as though he had set the whole debate up. They left the actual setup off the clips. Perfect! And it was very well done, if you don't mind the fact that it was misleading and exactly why because I remember clipping it to... Well why don't you look for that? I'm going to give us a little overview from Euroland with Euronews who will give us their take on

36:05 the elections and the world according to Donald Trump, I think. I think it's important to hear what the messaging is in Eurolands. Until now Donald Trump has got to where he is, the Republican presidential nominee and waiting with a mixture of bluster and boasts simplistic formula bluster and boast such as simplistic formulas not bluster and bust times with Americans fed up with the established parties He's been notably policy light but with the nomination sewn-up Trump is now making policy pronouncements and they're sending shivers down the spines of many. America First, this is Credo... They're sending shivers down the spines of many! This is so great. This is all conjecture I'd say. I would think... They're sending shivers down the spines of many Policy pronouncements And they are sending shivers down the spines of many America first this is credo in America that it's rich and great again he wants to run the country like a company his- I don't think he has ever said that

37:00 No. It may be implied, but he's never said that his critics say he will run America and the rest of the world into the ground Yes this sounds gonna do that Well another thing... The clip is not over But another thing that is coming back And it's it's the big meme on the face bags now The most important reason Donald Trump cannot become president because as the President of United States and here it is leader of the free world, you see everyone's concerned. Wait a minute something is wrong here no I just... Everyone is very concerned that he's going to annihilate the universe but the problem and this is mainly from anti-Trumps so I would say people who are not conservatives The problem is the arrogance of saying our president is the leader of the free world Is part of the actual problem in my opinion

37:54 I agree. Who the hell wants to hear that over and over again? And it's quite the opposite, Donald Trump is not saying he wants to be the president or free leader of the world He's uh... He's saying well we should talk everybody figure it out but this isn't- Well Russia in particular Russia China well there's some- I got some of that Everybody freaked out Speaking to the APAC American Jewish gathering he announced a significant change in company policy were the White House to fall under Trump Did he just say company policy Yeah, that's what he said. What does that mean? Well I think he means country policy but now he is considering the United States a company I guess. Let me see... What was that? In Jewish gathering he announced a significant change in company policy were the White House to fall under Trump management We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people Jerusalem

38:46 Until recently these radical positions and others plus the outsider character of Donald Trump meant the Republican establishment Hated him now. It looks like he might win none of that matters Trump says he admires Vladimir Putin He's already squaring up to take on China and says he's ready to talk with North Korea's Kim Jong-un. I would speak to him, I would have no problem speaking to him at the same time i put a lot of pressure in china we have tremendous power over china. China can solve that problem with one meeting or one phone call. Trumps simplistic vision of the world continues into radical Islam and the war on it. Donald Trump calls him a radical Islamic terrorist... While Washington and the checks and balances in the American system ensure much of this will be watered down, on this evidence Trump could be a wrecking ball. A wrecking ball! In terms of foreign policy. Wrecking ball! He'll stop illegal immigration by building a wall in our southern border that Mexico will pay for We will make America great again

39:45 On Thursday he delivered the cherry on the cake promising to build a pipeline cancelled by President Obama on environmental grounds and to ignore yet another international treaty. Also very, very slippery to say that... That he promised to build uh..the pipeline First of all, he's not going to build the pipeline. He asked for the Canadians to resubmit their application very different but this is how...this is how the mainstream operates. So far... Well that's because everybody yeah we got... The scammers have got to stay in office is what the problem is and it's unfortunate that Trump became the guy now they know what to do. Well, I have some info on this. Nor yet another international treaty So foreign bureaucrats are going to be controlling what we're using and what we're doing on our land in our country No way And by the way... One more thing By the way

40:40 Now he's talking about climate change, canceling the TPP. No in that case he is talking about the Paris Climate Agreement. Right and the Paris Climate Agreement but these but he's mainly talking about killing this Trans-Pacific Partnership Yeah The TTIP Now every left-winger and Democrat, everybody is on the same boat on this. We'd like... it's a secret agreement we don't like it which should be stopped immediately so Trump says the same thing and everyone's all oh I can't do that we made these agreements! This is actually what the Democrats in the United States are saying they don't want they don't want it It's the Democrats who don't want TTIP

41:17 Right, actually most of the Republicans won it. It's true! Yeah well there was a... I usually watch The Overtime but i caught uh a little bit more of Bill Maher in the most recent episode and on the show was the guy who is frying a lot of people's brains in United States because everybody loves Dilbert everybody adores Scott Adams everybody does from all walks of life, from all sides of the aisle. But as we know he's been saying Donald Trump will become the president

41:52 for quite a while now. Yeah, he's been in on Trump almost since the beginning And this must confuse people because how can this guy who so understands exactly what it is like to work for an organization like the Trump Organization Why? How can you do this? This is horrible! That's why it is not discussed very much. So he was on Real Time with Bill Maher and he explained exactly how he has come up with his analysis, things I did not know and love this guy! You are really an expert on persuasion so i've been trying to invite people on the show who could explain how we might defeat Donald Pumpkinhead... And tell me your thoughts on that? First of all I'm a trained hypnotist. A trained hypnotist?! Yes Did you know this?

42:41 Well, he's a friend of mine by the way so I might as well mention that. Oh okay and so you did know that? And that...that's why i wanted to mention it because I did not specifically know that Okay So I learned...I used to know him when he was over we he used to be an ISDN expert at Pacific Telephone There's a job that's gone uh gone away Yeah, well he I can tell you a couple of anecdotes. Well maybe after the clip that might be fun. I'm a trained hypnotist and I learned hypnosis in my 20s actually went to school for it And we have a volunteer from the audience Look at all these people walking down the street! And i've been studying persuasion for decades and when I saw Trump last summer displaying the tools of persuasion

43:30 I thought, oh my god he's not a crazy clown. Everything he is doing including his complete ignoring of the facts is persuasion perfection and I called him to be the landslide winner in the general election last year because the tools he's using essentially he's basically taking a flamethrower to a stick fight there's nobody using same tools he's using so his complete ignoring of facts are actually part of the persuasion because he doesn't give you targets, he doesn't give you details of his policies usually. So he's reducing the number of targets while making you feel good and focus on the things that he wants so it is not about facts it is about focus and attention He also seems to be a master at branding You know we see this...He never ever says the word Hillary now without crooked before Crooked Hillary

44:22 Crazy Bernie. I mean this is like sixth grade level stuff, but that's so wrong no so wrong I love this you should see Mars face when he said now You're wrong if you're so wrong it has nothing to do with sixth-grade behavior. You're so wrong. I thought Marwa was gonna bust his gut What but these get six year old behavior the everyone is saying we all know what its boost schoolyard bully for crooked Hillary Crazy Bernie. I mean this is like sixth grade level stuff, but that's so wrong No So wrong That is the best persuasion you'll ever see when I heard low energy I called low energy right yeah? I called the end of Bush that day

45:01 because that is a sticky right insult so these are not random insults I'm not saying they're random. I know, i'm not saying they don't work. I'm just saying he brands people low energy still doesn't understand crazy crooked but there's something else to it He's working on confirmation bias when you see anything come out in the news that looks like maybe Hillary Clinton did something a little bit suspicious You say crooked Hilary So he's setting these up so that you reminded of them really comes into I mean it looked great this week when that report came out. It fed right into the narrative, right? And lying Ted same thing, he's a politician He's gonna say something somebody is gonna call lie and when they do the nickname just pops in your mind Remember when he called dr.. Ben Carson the sheriff of nodding off

45:48 And by the way, he A-B tests this just like software people do. So he says these nicknames in front of people He sees a reaction and then uses them The brilliant thing that he did recently was... ...he came up with this second one for Clinton He said well is she heartless? Is it Heartless Hillary or it's Crooked Hillary? And he actually made people debate whether she was more heartless Or more crooked! And thats all intentional Thank you, Scott Adams. Yeah actually if you had if you've been reading his blog I have of course oh yeah That's where he started bringing this stuff into play I know but it had to wait months for a clip and here It is yeah, I'm surprised yeah I'd had to be mind-boggling because and it was interesting to see how which is unusual To see Bill Maher defer so much yeah And get you know pretty much put in his place

46:42 Yeah, well the whole show was odd. Melissa Harris Perry was on the show. She must have been flat-footed and I'm gonna have a clip she was wearing a T-shirt that just had one big word across her chest which said flawless Oh my god, really? Yeah I guess it's kind of a joke. Probably not! So she is wearing a t-shirt that says Flawless across the chest and it was a T-Shirt but around her neck she had like a Harry Winston diamond array. I'm sure wasn't real but if you were real would have been fifty million dollars so just blinging at you all time

47:29 And this was actually an overtime, this wasn't on the show. This is only on the YouTube video and it has nothing to do with Trump so we'll get back to politics but it was on the show. Melissa Harris Perry as a professor do you find there's a culture of political correctness on college campuses that is stifling debate and learning? I don't, but i do think students are... There's no atmosphere of political correctness on campus? I don't find that. No. And that's her! I teach at Wake Forest University but I do think the students are struggling with this and I feel like... Because lots of comedians won't even play colleges anymore because nothing is funny

48:16 That has not been in my experience. Oh man! I mean, I was telling Wayne that i've got these 22 students and we went to Iowa New Hampshire both South Carolina... And when she talks she continuously makes circle motions in the air and on the desk from the outside-in. I'm not sure what it means but she's always making circle motions with both fingers sometimes We have to go in, we have to do this. Her hand and her body language is phenomenal. The primaries the North Carolina primary they're Democrats and Republicans I would assign them to work for candidates even if they didn't if they're not from that party And they threw themselves into it so I had you know Republicans working for Bernie and you know Democrats working for Rubio You are so radical

49:01 They were very much into it, but they are struggling with it and we don't have good language for talking to each other across... We don't have good language for talking to each other. ...they were very much into it but they are struggling with it and we don't have good language for talking to each other across difference. We-we don't have good language for talking to each other across difference Across difference? Is that what she's saying? Yes! And she says again in a minute. But we don't have good language To what to was it something talking across other across a difference difference I don't think you can use the word difference that way. It's very awkward it's like talking over a river, you know? Or Rubio and they were very much into it but they are struggling with it and we don't have good language for talking to each other across difference And I don't know that we're doing a good job in this country giving our young people Good tools for having conversations across different so I think that's our fault not theirs We need good tools This is a professor

50:03 She's nuts. Just, she is a professor just so you know. The announcer at the Hillary Clinton UFCW I guess that's a union? That was the wrestling group. United Federation of something car workers no that would be auto workers CW. Oh that's UAW. Oh of Hamz United Federation of Ham radio operators who operate on Morse code only He obviously went to college Secretary of the treasure

50:44 Secretary Treasurer? Even, no he said secretary of treasurer was even better. Mark Perot and the future president of United States Secretary of Treasury Hillary Clinton! Secretary of Treasure! Secretary of Treasure We laugh about Trump's anal setup of everything, but he may be playing tiny dancer but at least they don't call him Secretary Treasure. Morons! And then I couldn't find out what party it was there was some elitist party that Gail Oprah's girlfriend on the CBS morning shows there with Charlie and Nora

51:25 that she went to and this shows, I would say she's not a journalist but she does ask poignant questions of guests. And you know it is supposed to be a news crew kind of working in the morning there with new stuff But she was quite unbelievable. Not in spirit or the letter of the law. So John, put it in perspective how big a deal is this really? I was at an event last night and both Democrats and Republicans were quoting Bernie Sanders saying I'm sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails but that was a long time ago he's since changed some of that yeah he has but the people with this party last night haven't so how big is this gonna improve anybody's... But listen! I was with a whole bunch of important people and they said they don't care what I do understand how does that work VA did

52:09 not care. It's a crazy clip you got to put by the way, so United Communications workers are guys who went on against Verizon ride Verizon guys yes start playing that whole clip again and I'm glad you like it not in spirit or the letter of the law. So John put it in perspective how big a deal is this really I was at an event last night and both Democrats and Republicans were quoting Bernie Sanders saying, I'm sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails but that was a long time ago he's since changed some of that yeah yes but the people with this party last night haven't so how big is this gonna improve anybody's... clearly you would those people matter who gives a crap about everyone else that's the people my party.

53:11 test of whether the candidate is shooting straight with them and that's a challenge for any candidate. I have no idea why left all of that on the clip but anyway, that was my point. I actually liked hearing that because this guy John Dickerson kind of fascinates me Because he seems to be extremely neutral, but I just can't believe that's true. But I can't figure out what side he is on and I'm almost tempted to think he is a Republican of some sort or maybe a Libertarian, I can't tell because he's good at hiding it. Was it ABC you said who had turned against Hillary?

53:48 CBS. Oh, how's ABC? That is CBS right there that you listen to No but I'm asking you about ABC. ABC seems to have... they've always been Republican from the beginning with the Jeb Bush period we follow that very closely and i think they kind of just resigned themselves to supporting Trump reluctantly That would be my take away from listening to their stuff. Didn't you have a number of clips on Thursday's show specifically from ABC being anti-hit? What was the hit job, there were hit jobs or was that all Trump hit jobs I can't remember. I don't know what did you have

54:30 They still do a little truck the cat would know those are the way they did it The way they and I didn't have the really good clip another clip. I lost but what was going on with both ABC and CBS is that they were Running what seemed to be kind of neutral to anti-trump material, but right left in all all the Trump memes, Crooked Hillary. There was one where they kept saying Crooked Hillary as Scott Adams discussed Crooked Hillary, crooked Hillary, crooked Hillary constantly in these anti-Trump clips. And it was just like to me no no this is not an anti Trump clip at all! This is pounding home crooked Hillary Tell me what you think about this 40 second blurb from ABC? Hillary Clinton reacting tonight after that harsh report from the State Department about her private email server

55:24 Our team also asking Clinton today what some of her supporters have been asking. After Donald Trump's attacks, is Clinton fighting back hard enough? But tonight questions about whether Clinton is ready to battle a rival like Trump Some of your supporter would say that you have to fight back a lot harder against Donald Trump That his attacks against you and your husband are left unanswered I'm gonna run a campaign about the American people. And she's getting help in Japan President Obama saying world leaders are worried about a possible Trump presidency They are not sure how seriously to take some of his pronouncements

56:02 But they're rattled by him. Ambassador Caroline Kennedy telling ABC News, allies tell her they are concerned about a President Trump Now the way I heard that what they were saying to Hillary is time for more ad buys maybe i just misheard that When they say you need to fight... I would say half of these reports are time for more ad buys. Yeah, that's you know if you need to fight back fight back well fight back means airtime. Take out some ads. You take out some ads exactly now you heard about the world leaders being rattled world leaders are rattled i tell ya they're rattled by Donald Trump this is what our president said

56:43 Ooh, first of all I think it's good if the world leaders are rattled but irrelevant. Let's take it to the task and the idea... And this is Barbara Boxer Please, if you have a chance look at the actual video and this in the Senate Have a look at the actual video She looks insane! And she's acting insane she has that hunched over head forward so she looks like she has no neck Her hair is all like a raccoon It was very very...and what she's trying to do What she's trying to do with the deputy secretary of state, she's trying to get him to say oh ever since Donald Trump came on the scene we can't do our work. It's crazy everyone is rattled about this guy completely rattled. Barbara? What is this set up here in a hearing? In a hearing yes. She's trying to get this guy to say something. Yeah and it's the foreign relations committee make any sense?

57:41 So she's on the Foreign Relations Committee and she obviously wants to have this guy say, yeah Trump is an a-hole because the president out there saying world leaders are rattled. You know that these Senate hearings are PR events so she'll go, this is my opportunity I'm going to slip in again! I'm gonna be good! She forgot one thing She forgot to lead the witness and set him up beforehand. I know it's a tough question for you, i just want you to say what you feel in your heart because we need to know Mexican officials have said on the record that some of the proposal mentioned on the campaign trail... We know who were talking about here

58:18 a candidate who's talking about building a wall, having Mexico do it. Insulting Mexican-Americans here at home... I don't think he insulted Mexican Americans He may have insulted Mexicans who are here illegally but i don't think he insulted Mexican Americans. ...insulting Mexican Americans here at home that some of the proposals would have a cataclysmic effect on our bilateral relations. Cataclysmic? Has this divisive rhetoric affected diplomatic relations with Mexico at this point? Has it impacted the United States' ability to work with the Mexican government to combat drug trafficking, and are you concerned that that type of rhetoric could just completely undermine what we're trying to do here?" Now this is not the way it's done. If you go look... You have to go Lindsey Graham as best guy. John McCain does it pretty well. He does a pretty good job. Would you agree

59:10 Is it not true? Would you agree that your work has been very difficult for you to work with your counterparts in Mexico because of Donald Trump. That's how you set up a witness. No, she says please tell me what is on your mind! More wrong. Amateur. Completely undermine what we're trying to do here Well I will try to strike a balance between answering your question and not entering too deeply into our own domestic politics here. I know it's a tough one but you know what? When people talk, it has real-life impacts. She's doubling down! She's trying to lead him but she doesn't know how to do it! Especially a presumptive nominee... You have all seen some of the reactions from south of the border from our Mexican brothers and sisters you've seen President Vicente Foxx's reactions and others

1:00:07 From the embassy bilateral level to date, we continue to work very closely together. In my personal opinion I do not believe it has gravely affected our ability to do business together Mexico in the last several months has reiterated its commitment to continuing with the Merida initiative Where the populace of Mexico stands on this may be another matter, but we continue to be able to work closely together. Oh no! Bilaterally. She's thinking wait a minute this is not the answer I expected how come this is not causing any problems and hey We had the ex-president saying some oh my god well I better play along So the words haven't had an impact on what is going on at the very top levels in Europe

1:00:57 on the work that you are doing at this point. Not in their dealings with us. Did you hear the very end? You hear the very end what she says. She says, oh that's excellent. The work that you were doing at this point not in their dealings with us is excellent Yeah, that's excellent. We might have just gave up Let me see I think I have a That would do it Okay couple more and then i'm done Oh, I have a question for you Question for you. Question? Question for you regarding water in California. And we're going to solve your water problem, you have a water problem that is so insane it is so ridiculous where they are taking the water and shoving out to sea

1:01:44 And I just met with a lot of the farmers who are great people, and they're saying we don't even understand it. They don't understand nobody understands it and I've heard this from other friends of mine in California where they have farms up here and they don't get water. I said oh that's too bad is there drought? No no we have plenty of water so what's wrong well we shove it out to sea and I said why and nobody even knows why and the environmentalists don't know why now they're trying to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish but So nobody even knows why. And by the way, the environmentalists don't know why and you know I should say this i've received many many environmental rewards you know really rewards and awards that was odd he made a mistake of rewards yeah if he was trying to correct it but i think he said it again later rewards and what kind of reward do you get

1:02:40 Hey, good deal. Here's a reward check from ten bucks Yeah This is something I would latch on to as a journalist gives me could you please give me a list of all the rewards? You receive was this a dead or alive bounty and they don't know what the latch on these guys Oh by the way Barbara boxer did make so much question for me yes is coming It's coming. Just about Barbara Boxer, no wonder she couldn't get laid if that's how she sets it up is it possible that maybe the way I look and the dress I'm wearing and the heels perhaps you would be interested let's say you hadn't had any sexual relations for 15 years That's probably why no one wanted to take her home They took her home Yeah they didn't do her

1:03:19 I don't know. No one talked. I have done very well environmentally, and i'm all for it but you have some people- I have done very well environmentally that's pretty funny! I'm gonna say that myself How you doing? I'm very well environmentally. Thank you, done very well environmentally and i'm all for it but You have some people that really want to just get in the way And I don't know if it's for their ego or what But there are so many things and you know we want jobs We have to bring jobs back and if we can bring this part of the world water That we have

1:04:01 You know, my environmental standard is very simple and I've said it to everybody. I want clean air and I want clean water That's what i want Clean air, clean water Very very simple so anyway, so we're gonna be back up here if I win believe me We're gonna start opening up the water So that you could have your farmers survive All right, so that your job market will get better and the fish think of the fish. Alright now even if we weren't doing this program? I would seek your consult on this and ask you I know you have an answer can Donald Trump turn the water back on in California

1:04:40 I think there's a couple of changes that could be made to get a little more water down to that valley they're talking about. Right now, it's called a flushing issue at the delta and there is this fish, the smelt, a little smelt. Is it like a tilapia version of fish? No, it's just a natural fish we don't eat although might be good But the problem is if they start pushing too much water down the valley, what happens is the baywater from the ocean and where the mudflats are still there. Let me look at it. Oh yeah! Still there? It kind of pushes up the delta and gets kinda too much salt water high in where it shouldn't be, where should be fresh water coming down from the mountains

1:05:36 If you start moving that freshwater from the mountains down to San Joaquin Valley, you end up with or yeah. You end up with the saltwater coming out but it's a real they were working on it take deal with it did lot of water is thrown into the ocean. That's okay so I'm like my question because the way this is being handled this is no reason why play the clip is Oh water scientist Donald Trump Oh, you're talking about the face bags. Yeah I think Trump will just do... he'll jiggle the handle and then we'll flush the water down there won't have enough water seems like yeah so that wasn't a very satisfactory answer now i'm sorry thanks i'm an air pollution expert not a water pollution expert necessarily i thought you would know all about it i know that much uh cleveland ohio is where the republican convention will be held this year

1:06:36 And I caught a clip with the Cleveland chief of police, uh...with a flub which he clearly didn't give two craps about for flubbing. In fact he explained his flub concerning certainly from Ohio. This is Kasich's state, right? It's case a country and it said loaded with voter fraud because of the machines. Yes well there is more this was just more about the optics of what the police chief is saying The city of Cleveland says it is recruiting more police officers and also bringing in additional equipment like more police motorcycles or riot gear but Stephen you say your concerned its not happening fast enough why so Well we're measuring people for

1:07:25 riot gear, politically correct it's protective gear. And what exactly is that? What is politically correct protective gear? Well it's just a term for right we're not allowed to call it riot gear anymore. That's how he got rid of it I was wondering how they get rid of all of that in all of our police force. Remember, oh we're gonna get rid of it! It's all gonna be gone? No it's not gone, in fact they're ordering new ones and they're just calling it protective gear. They changed the name. Yeah this is rebranding everybody okay hey we got a problem with uh with the militaristic police forces. The 13th floor says rebranding

1:08:07 But that's exactly what it is. It's to protect the officers, we have way behind we don't have any of it We don't have a gas mask. We don't have helmets. We don't have protective chest gear They ordered this stuff and now in fact tomorrow they're gonna be measuring people Prior to or after they heard you hoarded at its that sounds good this notion And, um... So we're ordering more gear but we're just ordering willy-nilly. The men and women of the Cleveland Police Department and the officers that are going to come help us are gonna do the absolute best that they can do with the equipment and with the numbers and with the training that they get. The problem is is that we're not getting enough of any of that right now. That's cause for concern for us. Well there you go no riot gear I mean protective gear

1:09:03 Well, it sounds like there's going to be riots. Yeah well MSNBC is learning how to deal with the riots or riots just being I mean it is kind of...I understand for the ratings but this clip and I just caught this by coincidence Chris Hayes is so difficult to watch too right? Right right so he sends a right, right? Right right right So he sends a reporter then of course the reporters walking backwards through the crowd with signs You know dump Trump trump f-trump. There's a whole bunch of different things And just listen to the self-importance of this a-hole, Chris Hayes.

1:10:04 Listen to Hayes. And then we have that, sorry about that Chris and no violence physical at least so far That's the plan and let's hope it stays that way Jacob Rasko outside the venue where Donald Trump is set to speak the top of the hour Jacob thanks Hey America if you see someone who is doing a live shot and you think its funny or smart or clever or disruptive in any way to say what that guy just said It's not grow the hell up thank you alright Grow the hell up everybody! Oh, Jay Slatt. Grow the hell up is not funny we're Red News Media What do you think your doing? This is not how it's supposed to work. Douchebag Yeah that was funny I only got one left but tell me if you want this is former Miss Arkansas Sally Miller It has been around for a while this interview but its popping back up and just not popping up by coincidence You wanna hear what she has to say about Bill and his coke habit

1:10:59 Of course. I was the older woman, you know? I'm seven years older than Bill and that's the reason he confided in me because his mother was the central part of his world, his life and he didn't ever really have a strong father figure How about Hillary? And I think he felt like he could talk to me like he would talk to his mother We laughed alot and we had fun He didn't need it, but I think maybe he had become a habit that he smoked marijuana and that he did coke. Actually, I just realized this is the table. It's funny just sitting here all my furniture collected through the years but this is the couch he sat on and that's the table when he did coke. Coke!

1:11:57 like a woman's cosmetic case. That's the only thing I can describe and he put it down here, pushed everything aside because he was a little bit bigger than me and he rolled it out there was this little mat and he sprinkled this white powder. I was sitting across the way just fascinated because it had a little straw and he leaned over you know in each nostril took a few big snorts It felt better, I guess because he had a big smile on his face. Yeah. And I asked him if he did coke because it was almost like a stimulant? Do you think? He said it just made him feel better, gave him more power and made him feel courageous and uh...I didn't question it because everybody has different ways of getting high. I go running and I got a high but um...if you ever saw pictures of Bill, he didn't run much but he did do coke! He did do coke!

1:13:01 Sounds pretty legit to me. I'm absolutely sure that's she's not lying poor bill is what was well known in the in the In the friend of mine as a consultant and DC Doing political stuff, and it was fairly well known in the whole In the Washington DC area that they did coke probably still does yeah Well, that's he would be a great anti coke ad then just show his picture oh This is what coke does to your kids. That one picture for sure. It can affect your heart, you know? You had a heart issue combined with no exercise and very damning and if you smoke weed smoking weed eating Cheetos doing coke not exercising yeah Yeah he ate at a lot of McDonald's He was a big McDonalds guy as well Then he became a vegan which can't be healthy either that's crazy Well I witnessed the two vegans who died on the mountain

1:13:58 I don't know anything about vegans dying on the mountain. Yeah, there were like four people in a week who died at above second base camp in I think the Himalayas of altitude sickness and it was a husband and wife young beautiful girl and she died of altitude sickness but they weren't going up to prove that vegans can do anything Oh well they... I'll say And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to John C. When the C stands for California Aquatics! See ya at Dvorak. Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all feet on the ground boots in the air subs in the water and subs in the water I said? And all the dames and knights out there I think I mixed it up That's okay In the morning to The Chatroom noagendastream.com In the morning to The Back Office below Mount Vortex Void Zero good to see you guys here of course and uh...in the morning to Mark G

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1:21:01 Dear John and Adam, in close is another article for your review on the upcoming presidential. He said something in the voter participation center came in and I found it strange that its addressed to my mother some background here she's always voted the Democratic ticket every election he this thing you send us pretty funny might discuss later I retired from the army back in 2013, believe my home of record converted from Illinois to Colorado. After my retirement, my mother still lives in LA." He goes on... "...I'm assuming that Colorado is again a swing state for the election..." That's what he's accounting for this phony thing that was sent him as like a ballot has been filled out for him with his mother's name on it

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1:24:21 So here's our chat room. What did I ask the chat room to do? Get a copy of TAPS! What does the chatroom do? They don't get you copies- No, they post links Oh, and you can get it from here You can record it from here Did they realize I'm doing uh...a show?! Yes. So I can then download it from there and then clip it and make it all perfect into an mp3? Yeah, they're not... They're only partially useful. Yeah, I did want to thank you- I would have predicted this! Yeah. I want to thank, I believe is from Sir DH Slammer Did you receive your copy of the Hillary Rodham Clinton's Some Girls Are Born To Lead book? No In hardcover no less? No

1:25:15 It's a thing of beauty. Yes! I'm gonna have to tweet some pictures it is really, it is remarkable and this of course... Yeah my think its collectible. I think it's 100% collectible yeah I actually ordered one copy for myself from Amazon. It is just stunningly beautiful man hey she is she's a saint Saint Hill Then it starts off you see dudes everywhere and in everything in every Assembly a little bit Rita select well actually let's get that wasn't really prepared Telling people to go to Vork org slash na so we can get our numbers up a little bit We had good a good number of people who came as executive producers But when we get to the second part of this you'll see yeah, you'll see it. It drops right off We didn't concern enough to get by another show next month coming up on Thursday Please remember us at vorac dot-org Slash and a

1:26:13 And of course we thank everybody else in our segment, short segment later on. But don't forget the formula! I mean remember it! Our formula is this... We go out and beat people in the mouth. I need a belly-beat 12 stack. Hey citizens Shut up! Shut up! I can read you something from the book Yes read us some of the book Hillary Rodham Clinton Some girls are born to lead Let's see In the 1950s, it was a man's world. This is how the book starts... this is the first page. Oh yeah let's start off right away with this kind of- Only boys could grow up to have powerful jobs! Only boys had no ceilings on their dreams. Girls weren't supposed to act smart tough or ambitious even though deep inside they may have felt that way but in the town of Park Ridge Illinois along came Hillary

1:27:12 wearing thick glasses and a sailor dress, acing tests upstaging boys in class and lining up sport events to raise money for the poor. Take that 1950s! Some girls are born to lead! And some... Wow is that really the text? Yes it continues. And some love politics and public service Through her church, Hillary learned about the troubled world beyond the green lawns and tree-lined streets of her town. Her youth group met with poor black and Latino teenagers in the inner city because they had the best marijuana anywhere! They went to hear a stirring speech by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,

1:27:54 Do the most good you can, Hillary's youth minister taught. Be kind work hard aim high her mother argued They didn't tell her she could only go so far just because she was a girl You want to hear more? Well I think we should go from where...I think this is a good segue First of all let's see what she sounds like today I got it! I saw it earlier We'll play that clip for starters Yes, I got it here Clinton is campaigning in Nevada and California She criticized Trump numerous times during a speech in Las Vegas Donald Trump is an urgent threat to our rights into our country The Democrats will next go head-to-head in Puerto Rico Wow wow wow seems that her voice is off a little bit today But this has been going on for this has been three months. Oh

1:28:49 Yeah, she's got something wrong with her. You think? I don't normally... we used to do this more on the show where we because Jon Stewart used to specialize in this and Conan O'Brien they used to do some work for us They would make these clips of some kind of cliche that every newscaster was using and they would run every one of them over and over again. Oh, I think i have the same clip This is from Saturday Night Live No. Oh, okay I got this from... who did i get this from? I got this from Seth... what's his name that does the late night show Yes, Seth... also a former SNL guy Yes and he does an SNL type show Yeah And actually- I like his whole show actually It's not bad I like his show too Ever since you went to the news format it shows very funny

1:29:43 I always get one big belly laugh. Seth Meyers, yeah and he does this... So i'm thinking when you look for these sorts of things they got this screwy one but who would develop this into a cliche? It's idiotic! It's drip, drip, drip. Ah! I was wondering what it was... Okay? It's yet another drip-drip-drip of a report saying that she didn't follow the rules. The drip-drip-drip of this investigation There is this steady drip-drip-drip Drip-Drip-Drip Drip-Drip-Drip It's just one more drip and it's going to be a big puddle and in one of these days it might just drown her. Nice Yeah

1:30:22 Yeah, well drip-drip. So when someone came up with it and stuck and in 30 years from now children will be sure that they heard drop drop droop And they'll all be freaking out They all have to do with Mandela I have the SNL this was so funny because it was so real It was a spoof but I am quite sure I've heard every single one of these CBS maybe not CBA they made it to be CBS The teaser for the 11 o'clock news. I haven't seen the show, this popped up and i thought it was a share worthy. And now what in God's name is still happening on WCBS 2 News at 11?

1:30:58 High heel self-defense, Tonight at 11. Inside a dog's mind, Tonight at 11. Ghost rest stops, Tonight at 11. Freeze yourself fabulous, Tonight at 11. Big bucks in bags! Younger eyes Text walking The digital breakup Digital amnesia Digital anxiety Digital dentistry Dry drowning Water overdose What's in the water? What's in your wine? What's in the box? Keyless danger Danger danger underground the she shed the man flu dude war patch me pretty summer sadness spike spices sick of food I Think I've heard every single one of those. I don't know guys hurt a few of them. Yeah sure yeah Probably just an easy one for them home game just copy everything that's real and then call it a joke now we have

1:31:50 So there's this guy that showed up, I sent you a thing to put in the show notes from this character. We've been talking about him he is the guy who was the Clinton biographer historian i should say Well he has been researching the Clinton foundation Right but when he's the yeah so your right he's the financial analyst who said it's big scam and numbers don't add up Now, I expected...I have this clip of from there's this kind of it's like some screwball online network but this girl was interviewing the guy and they let him talk forever so he got to bring in a number of factors. And i didn't really want to play any of this stuff because I figured this is going to eventually pop into the mainstream and it hasn't!

1:32:35 the Clinton Foundation material. It's a no-go zone, baby! It's a no go area! No Go Zone Baby! So let's just I want to play some of this you can interrupt this as much as you want and then when you're sick of it Because he just goes on and on and on. I want to play part two, which is the part where he summarizes what everything in fact we might well Let's start let's start with part two as a matter of fact This is the Clinton charity so you get an idea where this guy's coming from by listening to this part So you consider that? Consider this should be charity fraud then Absolutely it is an epic charity fraud. What I would say is it's much bigger than two billion Bill Clinton and others around Bill Clinton have been associated with related charities

1:33:18 And they should have been disclosing their related charity involvements. They haven't been one of them is the American India Foundation that I believe is a billion dollar fraud There's the operation in Haiti, that's about a 12 to 13 billion dollar fraud there's the Operation called The Global Fund which isn't many tens of billions of dollars of fraud involving disgraced convicted felon Rajat Gupta, former head of McKinsey. That's something that started in 2000 I think two or three the piece of the Clinton Foundation that Bill takes a lot of credit for and Hillary and Chelsea distributing HIV AIDS medicines around the world? That's a fraud

1:33:57 And there are serious questions about whether the medicines that have been delivered around the world are actually genuine and lawfully produced and effective medicines or whether they may have been adulterated. There are very serious questions about this fraud that had been raised by some for years, but only recently in really in the last 15 months I've decided to take this kind of effort because I've done the type painstaking work. I've approached government authorities Last year several of them and nothing has happened yet So I decided you know enough is enough people are being harmed here The public has a right to know about this and the public needs to rise up and shut this thing down Oh bad optics. So this is like kind of get your attention He well, we've we have been talking about this on this show for years Years and just for people who want to play along the website for

1:34:57 This guy is charlesortell.com, so and it's a blog thank you! So you could subscribe to feed... It's good guys he's on the money and he probably should avoid hot tubs canoeing in Washington DC. He has already spilled the beans yeah but they're not picking it up and what do you know with this? Oh you didn't remember some online news network right Yeah, it was an online. He's also been here and there but all of it has been fringe. You know what this guy is? This guy is prime material for a John C. Dvorak interview I mean if he's doing shitty web news networks let's get him!

1:35:41 That's a good idea. You should talk to the guy Yeah, he seems very easy to talk to and you start playing part one where do you have to play much of it? You can see that He's not only easy to talk to but he just takes it over which is exactly having done the interview shows Well, you know we got like this It's great know what could do with this with this if I sees four and a half minutes You could just cut it up and insert questions. Old school, remember how we used to do that? You'd just ask the questions and play this interview. Problem solved! All public charities whose revenues exceed a certain number, depend state by state have to provide each year an independent certified set of financial statements that is called a professional audit.

1:36:33 The Clinton Foundation, since inception on October 23rd 1997 has tendered into the public domain documents that purport to be audits but they're not audits. They're not compliant with the actual tough regulations that exist in places like your state California my state New York and around the world then when you start pulling beneath the surface and looking at the actual financial statements and cross-checking them these financial statements can readily be cross-checked. There shouldn't be discrepancies that can be cross checked for the foundation alone and they can be cross check for their disclosures against the disclosures of charities that say they gave amounts to The Clinton Foundation For the last 15 months I've been doing that type of painstaking work and the discrepancies in the numbers that we see run in many hundreds of millions of dollars You and Andrew Horowitz were talking about some, well actually Horowitz was talking about some scam

1:37:29 that just popped into my mind listening to this. And the scam is where your corporation buys medication or pays for a part of the increased price of medication, you get to deduct it as a charitable donation and then you receive the money back by selling it to the people in the first place It's a very poor explanation. Yeah, I'll tell you what it was... It turns out that a lot of the giant drug companies for one thing they jacked the price way up say it's $100 a pill for something that should be a buck or 10 cents

1:38:06 And nobody can afford this, but the insurance companies who do have people that are having insurance they will gouge the insurance companies for it and then the insurance companies will reimburse the drug company. To make it more interesting you create... The drug company itself creates a charity and the charity buys pills for people who can't afford them and then bills it out at $100 dollars in other words you buy a hundred dollar pill or something so you take The pill still gets paid for and then you take a charitable discount from your taxes for the hundred bucks because you paid for the pills supposedly, but even though you got the money. It's just this easy kind of... You make money on the overpriced pills and now you also make money through the tax. Now would with the Clinton Foundation be able to do that with perhaps AIDS medication? I don't see why not maybe who knows i don't know it from the sounds of this guy

1:39:03 This operation is just one giant scam. And I think one of the reasons Hillary wants to get him to be president as fast as she can, so she can party Pardon him. Before the roof falls in. Okay, well let me ask you this first before we even get into the nitty-gritty of the independent audits and what laws they might be breaking there. How do you know? You say that you've been analyzing this for 15 months. What kind of access to records are you looking at to determine this? Alright, well that's a good question. So the starting place for The Clinton Foundation is for people who don't know better is to look at their own website and there they put up

1:39:40 information, financial reports that go back to 1998 but audits that start in 2004. So in the beginning there's a bunch of missing information The versions that they put up on their website are very different materially different from the versions you can find by looking at states where they have operated inside and outside the United States In online databases that are freely accessible The second thing you can cross-check are press releases issued by the Clinton Foundation and others at the time that these major donations and grants are made. The third thing you can check, which I've checked...

1:40:16 are after-action audit reports. The big governments that give money away have had troubles, so for example the government of Norway, the government of Australia, the government of Canada, the government of Ireland, the government of UK each of these organizations and multilateral organizations will do special reports on a country, progress in a country and they contain extensive reports that don't foot But the biggest place to start is with the largest donor. And the largest donor of The Clinton Foundation is a name very few people know, it's called Unitaid out of 2 billion in declared contributions which may or may not and most likely are not the total amount of money sent towards The Clinton Foundation Of that two billion 600 million came from one organization based in Switzerland

1:41:06 Alright, so this lack of independent audits then that the Clinton Foundation almost fudged to make it look like they did conduct. If they didn't conduct them as you found what laws does this violate? Does that violate local law state law federal law charity law what is that violate right? What if the principle law that it violates is charity fraud solicitation law. This is a charity that while we're on this broadcast, is raising money over the internet and maybe using the phones to do it may be using them... Jeez man you could have popped his podcast cherry! The guy's doing podcasts! This is so sad! This really sad! And it's doing this broadly to the public

1:41:51 So when you engage in that type of behavior, your forms all your filings have to be true and accurate. There's special laws that apply to charities. Charities may not get engaged in quote any illegal activity so all these forms have to be accurate they are not accurate they are raising money and worse they're engaged in disaster relief After the various disasters, 9-11 Katrina and the frauds that happened Americans and others are very generous people. We see a disaster money flows towards charity after disasters were exposed starting in 2001 the federal government tightened the sentencing guidelines the FBI did

1:42:29 for disaster relief charity fraud. These people are engaged in disaster relief charity fraud, so the penalties for that and mind you it's not like Peter Schweitzer's book you don't have to prove quid pro quo all you have to show is they are soliciting which they admit and their forms of filings or materially false misleading which I believe they are We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. That's right! Just send your cash for Haiti. Bush should be thrown in the slammer too Yeah it also went into the Busch Foundation, they got a foundation It was called something else but its huge Huge, I tell ya Well this dovetails into...I had some conversations this week In between shows actually You know there is always these kids standing on the corner of 2nd and Lavaca which is right near The W Hotel

1:43:19 It's either Planned Parenthood or Save the Children. Of course, I always want to find out what they're doing and the Planned Parenthood is not actually asking you to donate to Planned Parenthood the organization it's asking you to donate to Planned Parenthood the lobbying organization which of course I don't do. Now, Friday as I was walking to spin class... No! Walking back from spin class there were and I saw them across the street on the other corner they and i was like oh that's interesting these are new I see new T-shirts since I was crossing the street I saw it was Médecins Sans Frontières which is the French version of what is the official version of course The Doctors Without Borders but it was the French t-shirt and both girls are wearing a spiffy white t-shirt

1:44:05 And so I said, hey would you like to help out Doctors Without Borders? Oh that's great. Tell me about Doctors Without Borders. Tell me about what you're doing. What is this money for? Who are you... Doctors Without Borders okay Do you have anything to look at or want to tell me? She had a laminated folder and I said okay yeah this seems right but are you raising money for them yes well then who are you with doctors without borders oh no we're with the grassroots Texas I don't understand. Yeah, no we go out and we raise money for Doctors Without Borders." Oh! Why wouldn't I just give directly to Doctors Without Borders? Well you see were very important grassroots so we support progressive issues and I said oh my... You triggered me! You should have trigger warninged me what are you doing?! No trigger warning me! And the bottom line is

1:44:59 And I talked to Tina about this because she's in the nonprofit world, she knows how it works. Very very very very wrong to be... There are lots of organizations and nonprofits that all they do is just collect money and then they disperse it to other organizations. Nothing wrong with that! It's probably a lot of efficiency in that but to wear the Doctors Without Borders t-shirts and say, do you want to help doctors without borders? Without really disclosing until I dove into it and said hold on a second. Why would...I want to give to you guys! It's like giving to The Red Cross another one of those outfits that doesn't give directly to what even your blood doesn't go to the if you donate blood doesn't go to the people who need it at whatever for whatever emergency is being asked so that's quite a scam

1:45:48 I'm glad you busted him. Did you call the cops? Immediately! Arrest those two!" No, I didn't because there's a second story I want to tell...I finally got some real insight. I got a...I don't wanna disclose too much but let's say there's a domestic worker who works for friend of mine and uh i was speaking with her and we're talking about Trump and here's someone who probably would have some opinions about that and this isn't my opportunity And as we're talking, I realize she's here illegally. So I kind of...I don't really confront her with it but I kind of weasel into it and she says yeah well and I say well look long story short, I get the story out of her

1:46:39 And it is in now I understand why this problem is the way it is. Now, I've always said the issue as you we don't have exit any we have ways of knowing if you left after the fact but that does not go directly into any system that says hold on a second this person didn't leave on time If you try to come back then they'll nail you That's what happened to Mickey when she was deported So she came in on a tourist visa her daughter was born here So her daughter became an American citizen. But she overstayed her visa with her husband, I think she made one other kid at the time and so they just stay. And they didn't go back they just stayed because she can petition them to become American citizens when she reaches the age of 21

1:47:31 So I said, well okay so how do you get around? He said well i have a driver's license but actually he says I can't actually renew it now because now I need to show my social security number and it used to be my TINI number. I said what are you talking about oh well if you overstay illegally...well it is illegal..if you overstay your tourist visa and you want to work You call the IRS and you say hi. I'm here, I've overstayed my visa... ...I want to work and they give you a special tax number. Yeah anything to get the money! Isn't that amazing? And I said, wait a minute. You call up and you say, yeah yes you just called to say that I'm here...I passed my visa but I'm going to be petitioned. She didn't have to mention it was in 20 years from 21 years from then. So that's so I could pay my taxes and with that she could get her driver's license now she can't get that anymore. So the kid turns 21 two years ago again

1:48:28 I guess her husband was in the hospital, but really it wasn't a pressing issue. And now she says now i really want to get it done. I said why because of Trump? She says no the fees are going up Wait a minute. You so I pay taxes and yeah, now the driver's license is is a bummer because they won't accept it just the tax number I have to have an actual social security number says so that's problematic for me. And I think she still drives. I saw her arriving in a car was huge issue and said, well tell me about the fees. And he said well this is what I expected He said it's about $1600 for all of the paperwork and I know all these filings... ...and then another 3000 for the lawyer so in total it's going to be about five thousand dollars You know no wonder this you know if it's not such a big deal and there's not really a huge pushback No wonder this has happened the way it has! Now people still aren't freaked out about it

1:49:26 I just say, well the fees are going to go up. So if you hear everyone's afraid of Donald Trump... No they're not doing it because they think Donald Trump is going to deport them they just want to get it done now before the fees go up. Sounds like something that's real? Yeah yeah The only people upset about Donald Trump are these paid troublemakers that Soros brought into the picture Exactly and when I said Hillary Clinton do you know what she said No. El Diablo! People sending me all kinds of stuff through email you can stop now, thank you That's not Taps? That's Reveille I know Thank You everyone said now i have a lot of taps maybe we should just play them all

1:50:21 One big taps. I like the reveille, you should just keep that at... Just for use occasionally. I have a couple else. I have The Retreat? Oh! Play Retreat. Nice Wow i've got First Call. That's the one you need. Ah some beautiful stuff what else you got

1:51:14 Uh, well my favorite. I don't think they have one of those. What's that one for? That's assembly! I'm surprised you don't know assembly. I don't know assembly. Oh, I thought you would to the colors is this who doesn't recognize it nice Now you got a whole collection. I do I do play a Hillary clip and then play one of those I Well interesting you say that I have a Hillary mix for the end of the show yeah, yeah, yeah alrighty oh Speaking of Hilary just then we can leave it alone have you seen The National Enquirer?

1:52:05 No, what's the latest? Ah they're all over the Hillary lesbian. Oh it's about time and I'll tell you how this popped up and was being done against so here we have well actually when we play one of her clips we need a jimbo. That's right, everybody. It's time for some Whoopie Wisdom concerning Hillary's emails! If the higher-ups knew why did they let it continue?

1:52:42 Well, but because there's a high well you tell me what was there I? What is their time for her right if she? Why wouldn't she comply with exactly why because I know that if they grab an email where she's cussing bill out for some reason cuz he forgot to bring the cutlets home It's gonna appear in the newspaper. Oh, right! I get why she did it...I don't understand why Right, okay because- By the way, Bill is notorious and said so publicly a number of times he never used email One email I believe one one email It's okay because this is ongoing, this meme has all been set up. There was a meeting I guess they brought their broomsticks because Feinstein was on it as well. For more than a year Secretary Clinton has said over and over again that she did not break the rules but this report makes it clear that she never asked for permission for her private email arrangement and if she had quote The State Department did not and would not approve her exclusive reliance on a personal email account to conduct department business

1:53:45 Has she been misleading the public on this for well over a year? No, I don't think so. I think questions are asked and answers are sometimes taken out of context Hillary Clinton broke no law. I read all 42 pages... Oh wow! Did it take you a week?! ...of the report The conclusion of the report does not say that Okay, thank you Finkelstein. Yeah we know the conclusion of the report does not say that because that's not what the report was about another person taking this lie well I'm sorry it's true The report is about what the department should be doing but it had Hillary Clinton's name in there about 75 times very specific to what she was doing

1:54:28 I dislike you, Feinstein. The conclusion of the report does not say that what it says is that the department Does not handle these electronic platform operations well and needs to do better Hillary herself has said yes i made a mistake if i had a chance to do it over again i'd do it differently i mean what do people want This goes on and on and on. We're reaching the final stages of a primary, Hillary Clinton is going to win this primary I say enough is enough let's get to the major problems facing this nation But Mrs. Clinton has said that it was widely known that she was using her personal email but if you look at this report

1:55:17 It says that when State Department staffers expressed concerns about the arrangement, their supervisor quote instructed the staff never to speak of the secretary's personal email system again. That sure sounds like somebody trying to hide something. Oh wait a second I don't believe he is trying to hide anything! I've known Hillary for a quarter-of-a century let me tell you what i do think I think this is a woman who wants a little bit of a private life. She wants to be able to communicate with husband, with daughter, with friends and not have somebody looking over her shoulder into our emails." That's right! Well we know you're right Bill doesn't send email so that certainly aren't true And i love all if you go looking for Hillary Clinton at a laptop computer photo

1:56:15 It's pretty funny. Yeah, she you know every single picture of her with a laptop is her hands kind of you know in the nothingness in the palm rests or fingertips are on the palm rest of the computer not where you rest your palms not fingers on the keyboard or on the trackpad now and beautifully lit backlit Now she could only do it from her BlackBerry I think that was the only device she understood yeah Anyway, so that's why we now have the National Enquirer with the assinuation that a lot of these emails were emails she sent back and forth with her lesbian lovers.

1:57:02 And they even say, although I don't see how they get that in the inquirer that she's going to come out as bi before the election. To clinch the vote? Yeah. I don't think that'll work. That's not gonna work. It will backfire! That's what i would say Because it'll backfire for the reason that why have you been hiding it until the very last second? Yeah, if we'd known you were by since you know. You're a kid in that wrote that book The little book about Hillary that born to lead said born to live on to leave Then no one would care, but if you're putting it off and putting it off and then you got this thing going on with Huma Abedin. You've got the Anthony Weiner thing... It brings up all kinds of issues! No, no. You can't do that ever. I always think its funny. I like it when National Enquirer does that stuff Well they probably, ya know..I don't see anyone suing them under those circumstances Okay should we take a look at Europe?

1:58:10 A little Europe, a little migrants, a little migrant news. We have some updates. Violence has broken out between Afghan and Sudanese migrants at a makeshift refugee camp in Calais. Authorities say 40 people have been injured around 300 were involved in the fighting which broke out around a food distribution point During the disturbance, tents and temporary structures were burned to the ground. Firefighters were called to battle the blaze. Local administrators believe some 4,000 people live in the camp but NGOs suggest that numbers are far higher. French police have launched an investigation. Unbelievable! I think there's probably 10,000 people there... It's just insane No one cares Not really

1:59:00 And if you thought everything had stopped with the Turkey deal, which as far as I can tell is not working at all. I have not heard anything about sending any people back More people just keep coming in from Libya now Hundreds of migrants disembark from an Italian Navy ship in the port of Reggio Calabria The Vega also carried the bodies of 45 people who died when their boat capsized on Thursday. The UNHCR thinks up to 700 may have died last week in sinkings off the coast of Libya, 500 people are said to be missing after leaving the port of Sabratha

1:59:36 Their boat was being towed by another vessel but was cut free when it began to take on water. Police in Italy have arrested four suspected people smugglers, survivors have identified one of them a Sudanese national as the captain of the towing vessel which was also packed with people some managed to swim to the first boat others were rescued from at the sea 100 people are also thought to be missing after their boats sank on Wednesday None of this is good. No, this is horrible! Particularly if you're a refugee...she did say refugees now was there's more refugees than migrants? Now the last clip in this trifecta is from CNN who billed this as an exclusive which to me means someone paid extra and

2:00:26 Since we're coming up on June 23rd, it is my belief this entire report was paid for by the Leave campaign regarding the June 23rd Brexit vote. There are ominous new developments in the migrant crisis... Especially if Brolf starts off with ominous you know that's a paid advertisement! There are ominous new developments in the migrant crisis unfolding in Europe We're now learning that ISIS fighters are hiding among the migrant masses many of them being smuggled through Libya Notice they won't actually say is, they say could be might be presumed to

2:01:10 Police tell us off camera they've caught different other migrants with ISIS links. Off camera... And a top Libyan intelligence official warns us the threat is real. Top official... Among the illegal immigrants on the boats, they travel with their families without weapons as normal illegal immigrants They will wear American dress and have English language papers so they cause no suspicion It is a huge and unpatrollable coastline where smugglers rule We talked to one disguised for his safety who says in the past two months varying ISIS has become part of the trade. About two weeks ago a boat left the ISIS stronghold Sirte, among them were about 40 Isis they were heading to Europe but bad weather turned them back

2:01:55 Ten days later they tried again. I don't know if they got there About a month ago, I got a call from a devout guy who knew about ISIS He wanted a small boat for 25 people and was willing to pay about $40,000 dollars I didn't take the deal Do you and other smugglers feel comfortable moving people who may be ISIS towards Europe? Smugglers are only interested in smuggling ISIS anyone they don't care Melon or watermelon Only money matters There you go. I think that's a paid advertisement. Yeah, how it felt to me Well they gotta do something the bracket they leave group i mean

2:02:32 Whatever the polls say, I think the polls are being used there to manipulate the money too. So you don't know what people are going to do but i just don't see it. I gotta tell ya... I got a letter from somebody let me see if we can find it While your looking while your looking ill say that again by receiving multiple emails from producers in Gitmo Nation East who say wow man this would really not be good I have a bad feeling about leaving. So these are our producers, their thoughts to be known." More people than are saying that we need to get out? Yes, I agree. That's the kind of letters I've been getting but I had one... The guy mentioned it and you can see it in front of me here. The guy mentions he says

2:03:13 You know, Britain is you always keep saying it's one of our producers who was actually a real producer. He's night level plus says when you guys are all for it but the great Britain UK was they used to get by without being in the EU and now why can't they just get by again? And he saw the movie, The Brexit Movie which is a great movie Everyone should watch. And then he mentions, he goes and says Britain was... I don't remember this being true but okay He says in the 70s Britain was called the sick man of Europe. I think i do remember this Okay well that's also possible When I read the email I thought yeah that rings a bell but it could be the Mandela effect

2:04:02 Sick man of you, here's the problem with anything about the 70s. The 70s were a depression decade it was one of the worst we've gone through that whole world did it was a depression and this called something else but it was a depression almost on par with the Great Depression over 30s and we're actually in this similar decade right now so this is nonsense I don't care what was going on in the seventies doesn't matter Well, they had Margaret Thatcher of course close the mines and everyone was riding in the streets. It was a mess It was a mess, but everything was a mess in the 70's. There was a mess in this country with the long gasoline lines so you could only get gas on every other day and if your license plate had an even or odd number... Shut up, slave! So we're not going to use this sort of thing as a comparison And you were rich back in the 70's I was because I was working for the government Yeah, rolling in dough

2:05:01 I was just looking back on it. Yeah, it's above podcasting. Yeah not a podcaster oh well the So the point is is that these this is all propaganda? Mm-hmm yes And if you okay If you want to believe that your helpless mess and your no good in your country they can barely get by on its own Even though you're the financial center there You know that pretty much runs the world In London Fine, stay in the EU and it's still going to...the same thing is going to happen. It's going to be worse because what's gonna end up happening instead of the thing falling apart—this is what I'm thinking anyway—is that there's gonna be a civil war after the EU puts its army together and you're gonna have all kinds of issues here. This not gonna do well. Personally think you're better off destroying this thing before it gets out of control. And maybe it's already out of control and it's too late.

2:05:57 I'm not a big fan of the EU, obviously. No neither am i after having read the Lisbon Treaty and all the protocols it's a bunch of... ah France! It is good for international relations? I don't think it's good for any sort of trade? I don't think it's good for anything unless you're one of the bureaucrats that gets this cushy job. The European Union is basically a trade agreement that's basically in its essence what it is. Yeah, well it's a trade agreement plus. Well it started as a trade agreement this is how all these things always start its slow moving slow moving are the gas lines in Paris and France as the strike which is for to not allow

2:06:46 companies to fire and hire as easily as it has been. Got a lot of notes about that, it is indeed entirely insane and it leads to according to our producers very bad hiring practices for obvious reasons you know? And it's very hard to get hired at all! A lot of discrimination takes place because when a company hires you...it's like a marriage You're in it for life. Yeah, so they're very cautious? Very, very cautious and but from a worker standpoint yeah gravy oh someone did say that I was incorrect and true i'm partially incorrect about the 13th month in the Netherlands It is not a law that everyone has to give that but if you don't want to give it you have to go through quite a process to prove why not And it's only for certain sectors

2:07:37 Anyway, so the fight continues in France. This report was kind of funny how they... How it's being masked as everything is okay we're going to be alright we're getting back to normal but of course the strike is still on. The French transport minister is warning that the country fuel crisis is not yet over Following this Saturday's meeting, Transport Minister Alain Vidalis said the situation at fuel depots is improving. In some regions he says things are back to normal and we can't say the crisis is over. Unions meanwhile are refusing to budge. I've never closed the door to dialogue, he says but to have dialogue there has to be two people. The standoff worsened this week France mobilized strategic oil stocks for the first time in six years Six of the country's eight refineries are blockaded or on a go slow

2:08:31 So the guy says, yeah, the gas lines are getting better. It's all going to be back to normal but the only reason why is because they uncork their six billion... Their huge mountain of oil because there's no transportation of it and we have the UEFA Cup coming up now in what? Seven days? France as a country you kind of need to drive through And a lot of people who are going to go to the UEFA, the matches will be driving. Well... Oh! The National Oceanographic and what are the other two A's for? Atmosphere. Atmospheric Administration or Agency? I think it is an agency. Administration. Now they're the ones that have the numbers to prove global warming

2:09:32 A lot of NASA has it, but the NOAA is always saying warmest year on record. Warmest year on record? Warmest year on record! But I want to make sure it's not a Mandela effect It's warmest year on record that I heard from NOAA correct? Warmest month even last month right? That was the warmest minute Oh that minute?! That was the warmest minu- that would be funny if someone said that Um... I have news here uh NOAA has now confirmed Between 10 and 11 a.m.. Was the warmest hour on record you just wait for it see sea levels rising And seas are getting warmer, and we just want to make sure I'm right I'm not trying to be facetious know what sounds that way but sea levels are Rising and its warmer in the oceans right? Right okay

2:10:23 Explain this clip from them. This year there is strong variability in several key climate factors greater than in past years and so there is uncertainty as to whether these factors will be reinforcing each other... This by the way, is the hurricane season outlook ...or competing with respect to tropical storm formation More specifically, there's uncertainty about whether the high activity era of Atlantic hurricanes has ended. This high activity... Hold on. What high activity era? Didn't we just close out 127 months of no hurricanes in the Atlantic? I think you're talking about that era before

2:11:05 Oh, okay. ...has ended this high activity phase began in 1995 it's associated with an ocean temperature pattern that is called the warm phase of the Atlantic multi-decadal oscillation or AMO The AMO write it down the AMO so when it gets warmer then we get lots more hurricanes A warm phase of the AMO leads to warmer Atlantic Ocean temperatures and a stronger West African monsoon. And these contribute to the formation of hurricanes. However, during the past three years weaker hurricane seasons have been accompanied by a shift towards the cool signature of the AMO... What? ...cooler Atlantic Ocean temperatures... What?! ...and weaker West African monsoon. Whaaat!? I'm confused!

2:11:57 Yeah. If this shift proves to be more than short-lived, if it's not just a temporary blip... Blip? Oh, blip! The new—blip is the new glitch man. Let me tell you, blip is the way to go. Blip! Now she says three years, that's your 127 months right there. Or you know it's in there... Just a temporary blip then it could be signaling the arrival of a low activity era for Atlantic hurricanes possibly that's already begun possibly we're just in a transient

2:12:34 High and low phases tend to run 25-40 years. NOAA's outlook for this season indicates that it is most likely to be a near normal year In the Atlantic, this season will likely produce a range of from 10 to 16 tropical storms. Those are systems with top sustained winds of at least 39 miles an hour. Four to eight of those are expected to become hurricanes with top wind speeds sustained at 74 miles per hour or greater And between one and four of those, of those hurricanes are expected to grow to major strength if category three or higher which translates to wind speeds of at least 111 miles an hour. If that is what she calls normal then what were these past 127 months? Those were...

2:13:25 Well, I don't understand NOAA. No, you don't. You don't get it man! I don't get it man but I'm still in the glitch phase...I don't even know what blips are about my-my-my Well the one thing which I have didn't clip but there's been going around this is a pretty funny one this guy James F Black mm-hmm Is an Exxon engineer from the 70s 1970s and he

2:14:18 wrote a paper saying that there was, I guess he was a research chemist or something at Exxon if they didn't know they did that kind of research. But he did the thing about global warming or supposedly global warming and climate change in the 1970's and so his granddaughters being trotted out and run around holding up a bunch of papers saying what in which he went to the board meeting saying why have nobody you know that you guys knew about the global warming in the 70s and but they seemed to me that everything was just mentioning climate change. And if we remember, the seventies especially 1977 when this guy supposedly came out with this, that was the year or the number one year, the peak of the global cooling

2:15:04 Crazy. Exactly, yes 77 to 78 when did which is the skin? I don't know that I have this find this guy's papers because I want to see if he's talking about global cooling Which is what everyone else was talking about and anyone ever gets all bent out of shape But if they knew this that did the moment it wasn't one article It was like hundreds of articles on we're all gonna die from global cooling was very, was the... It was what we felt at the moment. Yes! What everyone's talking about The meme I remember it. Was the meme? Was the meme of the moment and uh..I just find that this whole thing is... I don't know and everyone is so... I'm almost trying to figure out what is the point of it And I keep tracking back to one thing in one thing only Vegans

2:15:55 They're the only ones who benefit from any of this. Get rid of the cows, stop... because they're farting too much and they're ruining it for everybody. Yeah And we have to stop eating meat We do I don't know It's very annoying Like to thank some people before we do that uh i got the latest New York City Commission on Human Rights pamphlet This is from Bill de Blasio's The Mayor's Office And it's a pamphlet that is being distributed, and it's good because I finally know where I fit in on the spectrum. The gender spectrum. Okay? So just to give you some choice bits from this little pamphlet... It's in the show notes if anyone wants to get it at 829er.knowagentnotes.com In New York City its illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender identity and gender expression in the workplace, public spaces and housing

2:16:48 The NYC Commission on Human Rights is committed to ensuring that transgender and gender non-conforming New Yorkers are treated with dignity and respect, without threat of discrimination or harassment. This means individuals have the right to work and live free from discrimination and harassment due to their gender identity or expression use the bathroom or locker room most consistent with their gender identity and or expression without being required to show proof of gender be addressed with preferred pronouns and name without being required to show proof of gender Follow dress codes and grooming standards consistent with their gender identity slash expression. And then there's two definitions, which I think is important for us. Gender Identity according to the Mayor's Office. Gender identity is one's internal deeply held sense of one's gender as male female or something else entirely a transgender person is someone whose gender identity does not match the sex where they were that they were assigned at birth

2:17:44 Gender expression, external representations of gender as expressed through for example one's name pronouns clothing haircut behavior voice or body characteristics Society identifies these as masculine and feminine, although what is considered masculine and feminine changes over time and varies by culture. True! Many transgender people align their gender expression with their gender identity rather than the sex they were assigned at birth." So are we clear on the identity and expression definitions? Do your own thing Yes That's what... yeah that's what it was Hey man do your own thing It's all groovy baby That was the 70s Good times

2:18:26 Courtesy 101 if you don't know what proud pronouns to use ask be polite and respectful If you use the wrong pronoun apologize and move on Don't go when you see somebody Pat from like Saturday Night Live. Yeah, you go up to me say are you a guy or? You I can't tell you with that hell Are you well Yeah, that's a way to do it. Well that's what he said to do! Respect the terminology a transgender person uses to describe their identity and don't make assumptions about a transgender person sexual orientation Then they have a handy little list of... Wait somebody wait let me get this straight if somebody is a transgender girl looks like a woman man or woman MTF yeah we'll call it that

2:19:22 Yeah, you will. I have to ask them why don't just call him a she? Well that's what they're presenting Is it possible that someone presents themselves as a woman No no its...no you can do this because that would trigger the person You see its better to be safe than sorry and ask up front I'll tell you, there's this big Facebook group. Tina's daughter is in it and she shows me all the stuff... It's the trigger warning content warning group so no matter what you say anything goes but you have to have a TW or CW before your text so people know that you'll be triggered by something it says on there. Content warning? Trigger warning?

2:20:04 And then there's this one thread where this girl is upset and she says, you should have posted a trigger warning on what you said because you said someone was stupid. That is ableism! You're ableist! I had to look it up... You're making this up? No, I'm not making it up and here's how it works If you were to say to me that I am stupid then you would be an ableist Because you discriminated against the fact that I have not had college So you can't call me stupid because then you are- If I call you stupid because you said something dumb. Now, dumb doesn't mean... You did it twice! I'm not kidding this is really the conversation that's going on and why? And you can post it as long as you put CW or TW. Annie. Oh so I could say hold on hold on TWA you're an idiot

2:21:01 Can I do that? Well, the TW would be for someone else who heard it. But the person who you said it to... It would be ableism. Well, boy, I'm in trouble! Yes well we are definitely ableist so for instance if I say hey cripple how ya doing very ableist of me although I find usually the crippled person enjoys that and they'll say hey I got Tourette's whatever welcome to the club Do your own thing man! Here are some handy terms And to see if one fits you, I found one for me. Okay, bi-gendered. Is that for you or me? No. Cross dresser... Drag king! This is new. What's a drag king?! That is a woman who dresses up like a man. Wouldn't that be a bull dyke? No. Bull dyke no it's a drag King wow you are really horrible

2:21:55 Uh, drag queen of course. Femme queen? Not quite sure what that is... Male to male, FTM Gender bender, gender queer, male- It's a gender bender then Well that's we had that artwork already That's Bender wearing a pink tutu Okay Male to male MTF Non op I like that one non op I'm a non op are you a non op Everyone seems to know Most people I know are non op Hizra pangendered? I have no idea. Pangender, there you go. No but it's hizrah... What is the difference between a hizrah and shirzhrah? Uh, I don't know what hijrah is

2:22:33 Then we have transsexual and trans... This is in the book? This in this pamphlet. I'm reading it literally, literally! I gotta get a copy of this pamphlet anyone out there get me one It's in their show notes No, I want a copy of physical copy as a collectible because God knows Oh a physical copy? Oh a physical copy yes okay Now listen to this because you could-I could screw this one up Because I have no problem saying oh just so I notice your uh a transsexual I could bring that up in a conversation like that. However, but if the person is not a trans no and that's not the problem That you can either it specifically has transexual slash Transsexual with one s or with two S's hello so what we have to be trans sexual trans sexual transperson

2:23:28 Woman, oh wait. Wait say I'm still stuck on this back thing so yet transsexual a trans Sexual which would be the two s's or transsexual correct? It could be the one yes And there is a subtle difference in how you pronounce it yeah, yes, I just did it Yeah, I'm very I'm very worried. I don't want to throw out the wrong one that You don't know okay now and now on the list we have man and woman Oh, and but what are they doing on the list? I don't know I'll write that down for myself Okay, then we have oh but here butch you can use butch

2:24:13 What about bull dyke no it's not on there to spirit understand this now? I thought this one would be would adhere to me two-spirit. I like two-spirit Tooth tooth no, not tooth 2 number 22 spirit or a 222 spirits Yeah Like you have two spirits you have a male spirit and female spirit maybe your camera oh Yeah, could be. Then we have trans... Okay that should've been closer to the transexual I feel if i was making the pamphlet but and then here's how about a gender? A gender! Just- I'm a gender. Is that pronounced agender like asexual? Could be but well okay agender yeah I guess you're right agenda agender

2:25:00 Okay, welcome to no agenda everybody you can turn this into a who's on first bit. No problem I think you've been doing that Then we have third sex which is also nice Gender fluid if we've heard in that one We have non-binary transgendered androgyn Non-binary transgender non by What is the pronoun for a non binary? Transgender nibbet I have no idea. Okay, androgyne... Androgyne? Okay. A-N-D-R-O-G-Y-N-E, androgen or andro-, androgyne? Androgyne? I think androgen! Yeah, I think this is the we've been f-, our food supply's been poisoned. Go on. Then here it is! Here is the one that I identify with the most. I think I can safely say I am gender gifted. Gender gifted?! Yep! What the hell does that mean!? Obvious boy!!

2:26:01 Remember? I'm a grower, not a shower. I am gender gifted! That's right. What is it supposed to mean? I don't know that's the Texas interpretation of it. I don't care what its supposed to mean. I'm printing up business cards. Vista print here I come. You can also be and I think this is for you...you may be a gender blender. A female gender gifted and male gender gifted? Yes. So they should have different terms. Yes, you're right. I think your are a gender blender Gender blender. Can you be a, uh... any combination of the above? Well it seems like that because the next one is very- Is it gonna be a butch? No. Gender transexual? Well who am I to question how you identify or express your gender You can do whatever you want These are just suggestions But how about this one Ready for it? Femme person of transgender experience

2:27:02 I notice you're a femme person of transgender experience currently experiencing homelessness. While simultaneously experiencing no money." I mean, i don't know man... Is there more? Or did you go through the whole list? The last one is androgynous which is just not a good kicker You know, I think the femme person of transgender experience is the kicker. You gotta know when to get out And I thought that was uh well there ya'go Well you could have mixed it up Yeah yeah I could've mixed it up Well that's a crock of shit. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda, imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah that'd be fab! On No Agenda morning! Eh we have few people to thank and let's start by thanking them Timothy...

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2:32:54 I'm looking forward to what you got for us, John. Well right away phones! No! Cell phone cancer on ABC Thanks next tonight here to your health and to the debate over cell phones and cancer now reignited a major government study tonight of brain and heart tumors in male rats that had been exposed to radio frequency waves like those from cell phones Here's ABC's Eva Pilgrim. Tonight a new government study reigniting the old debate over whether cell phones could cause cancer researchers exposed rats to high doses of cell phone radiation nine hours a day through their entire lives about six

2:33:31 times the amount of radiation an average person gets during a cell phone call. The early findings show a slight increase in cancerous tumors in the brains and hearts of male rats, but curiously not the females." And so I think that it's important for as a public health issue to at least try to answer that questions to give people guidance as to how they can change or not change their behavior." No human studies have proven a conclusive link between cell phones and cancer. I'm always aware, it's always next to me. There is probably something but i don't care. I need my cell phone. Many of us keep our phones close by all day long even when we sleep. It's not so difficult to put your phone you know few feet away from you when you sleep the FDA says if you are worried cut down

2:34:19 on cell phone use and go with hands-free options. It was, I don't know what the point of it was. All the networks did one now and everybody did this report. It just came out all at the same time. I don't know who is behind or why? So can kind of quite figure out why but I do want to play this another version of this report. This is with they didn't on this. This is Jane Pauly again because Jane Pauly who apparently hasn't been working in the you know she's a substitute. Hold on hold on second book of knowledge how old is Jane Pauly

2:35:10 Sorry, I didn't understand the question. Yeah, that thing's useless so she She dropped a little tidbit at the end that I have...I was stunned because no one ever does this! I have thought about it and i've talked about it but no one ever does this and she drops his little bomb at the end of this report And I just thought this is fantastic somebody finally asks the obvious Folks who spend hours on the cell phone have probably wondered what all that radiation is doing to their health. Tonight, a possible clue. Here's Anna Werner

2:35:49 In one of the biggest studies to date, the National Toxicology Program looked at the potential link between cell phone radiation and cancer. Researchers subjected lab rats to the radiation and found some rats developed tumors in the brain and heart. The report authors said given the widespread use of cell phones even a very small increase in cancers from radiation could have broad implications for public health Findings will likely launch a new debate as to whether cell phone use might cause cancer. Dr Otis Brawley of the American Cancer Society. It is game changing in that it's the first time we've got evidence that radio waves from a cell phone actually can cause cancers

2:36:34 The FDA says the majority of studies so far have not linked cell phones with health problems. Dr Henry Friedman heads the Brain Tumor Center at Duke University. This is just an incomplete presentation of information and when you do that, you raise far more questions about the validity of the results Well, it's worth noting the incidence of brain cancer has not increased in recent years despite the rapid increase in cell phone use. But if you're concerned about potential risks Jane the experts say you can use either a set of headphones keep the phone away from your head or use a Bluetooth

2:37:10 Which sits right next to your head it does all right But beside that she's the only one who's ever mentioned this obvious that bullshit putting stick in the Bluetooth thing right in your ear Which couldn't get any closer to your brain, which has got radiation beaming out of it. I think even you know pretty power What? Which frequency is blue? That's you're so right. Well, another thing what I did and I looked at the study of course and it you know this is all like oh could be maybe present was like the Paris climate. It was bogus but nowhere that I see them take into their control group or any regard for the D...maybe yes we have

2:38:02 an increase of phone usage, but a decrease in actual holding it to your head. People aren't using them to call as much as they did." Yeah more texting than ever! Yes WhatsApp and texting and holding it in front of you to see video so that made this whole study bogartive. It's just behavioral study alongside of it which just wasn't included as far as I could tell Well, I just think it was planned somehow. But I don't know who was benefiting from this story but everyone was running it. Ah that brings me to the next section of our tech news and you just heard the book of knowledge fail because I was asking you to do something. This is the Amazon Echo or Alexa as many people know it

2:38:51 it fails on anything except what it's really, really good at. And that's why this device is genius because only has to listen out for a couple of trigger words and I think they call them phrases in the SDK and the software developers kit so asking what time it is or the weather or my flash briefing or set a timer Or I can do this book of knowledge turn the lights off. Okay see and the lights just went off. So that works because that's integrated, and it knows what to listen for but the minute you want to do something

2:39:30 outside of that realm, like Wikipedia. And it can read Wikipedia if you say Wikipedia and then the name but if the Wikipedia entry does not contain for instance Jane Pauley's age then it doesn't even know how to give a proper response by saying it's not on the wiki page or something but all of that would have to be programmed Well what are you going to see today? If you look around at the tech horny news shows and you're probably already seeing it because now it's like So you don't have to watch any show cuz I'm time down for that one just gave me the show in a heartbeat Here is I'm from the future this is going to fail. There's one way where it might work, but all centralized services are

2:40:24 It's just going to fail because there is no artificial intelligence. There is only skip logic, which is not my term the CTO of America invented that term former CTO Skip Logic and it's simply just listening for trigger words And you see all this oh This is our artificial intelligence and it knows how to grab from that source in that source in that source and you'll notice That it's all transactional These things work in a transaction mode. Of course, really the Amazon Echo is intended for you to order stuff so I can just say Book of Knowledge Order toothpicks

2:41:03 Norpro 360 pack ornate wood toothpicks. It's $5 and 27 cents total should I order it no yes? Fuck you So that's transactional, and it works really well because she understands what I'm looking for has a catalog could match my voice But it's not you know open all do all this great stuff for me." Now, that's why OK Google works kind of because it knows stuff about you. But the reason I'm irked about this is here's IBM because... You seem very irked about this. This isn't good. Yeah.

2:41:42 has Watson. They've been building this brand for a long time and they built it mainly, first it was for the big Jeopardy thing where they beat Ken Jennings and Ken Jennings just told me it was a scam because I know Ken Jennings. See? I know people too! We share love of maps actually, Ken Jennings and I we sit around fire talking about maps And then they started marketing is for health care and it can give you the right diagnosis. But now they're taking it to this level where they bring the CEO of North Face, and he is talking to his Watson because that's their brand of this bogus skip logic. Oops!

2:42:25 All right, here it is. Todd Spoleto president of the North Face we are working on the prototype to match customers to gear Watson let's give it a try say its mid June and I'm backpacking in Yosemite Of our 353 jackets I can recommend nine Watson what if it rains? There is just a 3% chance of rain so I recommend the breathable stretch fleece fuse form Dalamiti jacket A perfect choice Watson no wonder our customer loyalty numbers keep climbing! I believe we can do even better I like the way you think. All right, so this is a... The reason why I think this experience will actually happen although maybe not quite in that conversational mode but that's very possible is because the computer said it! I have 356 items You know? I've cross-referenced It's a small database It's working Got it Boom boom boom boom

2:43:14 Now, so now what Apple is going to try and do, everyone will follow and Google will do it. They want to open up the access to their cloud system It'll never work. I can see Amazon failing already as you now because what leaves the room is the magic, the magic of the Amazon Echo is you could just say here an example a book of knowledge. In Austin it's 83 degrees with clear skies and sun. I think my point is made

2:43:52 So it only done this. Yeah, it's a little package I prepared for you and I stop you right now for a second. Yes sure. I need to breath anyway Nobody, I don't know maybe I'm wrong and maybe the Millennials are different or but I don't think so But the way the world of fashion works is to get you to buy stuff that you like the looks of So, the computer recommending this fleece jacket is yeah okay maybe as a suggestion you could look at it but you might look and say this thing is ugly. It's fugly I don't like it I want something that looks more attractive because I'm spending 100 bucks for this jacket or 200 bucks or 300 bucks and I wanna wear something that's kind of stylish This thing's a piece of crap! How does that ever take into account?

2:44:41 I think the transactional process, that can easily be inserted. And then you...I think that would be a step that you could just put into it. Hey! You know? Take a look at your screen this is what you might look in it and then I can see where that would happen but all of this is based upon transactions not and not something on a thing that you can talk to its not her It's not happening so back to Amazon failure So they open it all up And once you're in their gateway, right? So if you have to use a separate trigger word funny enough. To get into the external processes gateway then you can use some natural language again the example of the blah blah blah weather blah blah blah because it's just looking for certain phrases but the problem is getting into the gateway I can't for the life of me remember how to get into StubHub

2:45:32 You know, you have to say open StubHub or ask StubHub and after three times where it goes wrong. So that's where it breaks down that... It should just understand StubHub but there are reasons for the security reasons and other things I think Amazon won't want to do that or couldn't do it so the only way this might work is decentralized But, you know that would probably drain your battery of your phone or if you wanted to have something running around. There's a lot of information if it was your own and that would be a great app. I'm sure there are apps that have stuff like that but this pipe dream of oh it's going to be so great and of course Apple well if Apple does its gonna...no It's gonna be sad and pathetic like Apple TV? Like the Apple Watch is pathetic and sad! It just can't be done there is no AI

2:46:23 I don't, and at what point John your favorite question will my refrigerator actually order the milk because i'm out of it? It can't. Can't so unless you are going to be making your own if you use a scripting language to create stuff yeah there's some learning that can be done but that's not gonna work on this on a huge basis like that is not gonna work What's your point My point is that it's great to have devices that do very certain, certain things very well. I know it sounds like... Like turn off your lights? Exactly! Exactly. Oh and set the timer and you said multiple timers for cooking and can tell me how many tablespoons in a cup and all this stuff those are interesting handy things but if anyone thinks they're going to be buying into a pipe dream there is no AI only the API

2:47:24 There, now I finished it. Okay well i'm all in with you You got any more? No I think you did... Well no I mean just tech news yeah Oh I just wanted to say that I think you're dead on about that whole thing and you know you've got the.. you bought a thing and didn't work or does work for what its good at It does not work for instance as a reference tool for this podcast Its quite poor actually Well, once in a while it nails something but it's very rare. Your thoughts? I've got one tech news is kind of tech news as the antibiotic story that's going around for some reason nobody...of course this is very interesting because this showed up on a bunch of different news reports nobody

2:48:09 that does network news will discuss the real problem here, which is that the drug companies don't give a crap about developing antibiotics because the whole idea now is to find drugs and ailments. That you have to buy drugs. You have to keep buying forever something. You have to keep taking it. That's why diabetes will never be cured or cancer or cancer will never be cured because they just want to keep giving you some of this expensive and you have to take until you drop dead So forget antibiotics. ABC's Lindsay Davis on the new concern tonight. It's what doctors have dreaded for years, a strain of bacteria so resistant that the toughest antibiotics can't kill it and it's almost here. Tonight the CDC is sounding the alarm revealing that a woman in Pennsylvania has become infected with a bug this country has never seen before. The more we look at drug resistance the more concerned we are over

2:49:20 Overuse of antibiotics has bred superbugs, resistant strains. Two million infections in 2013 alone. Even worse 23 thousand of those infections are fatal This is the first strain ever found to be resistant to colistin an old drug of last resort rarely used because it's harsh side effects The medicine cabinet is empty for some patients It is the end of road for antibiotics unless we act urgently So he says act urgently. Lindsay Davis with us now and we've reported on antibiotics before being overused so what kind of conversation should you have with your doctor after this? Right, don't ask your doctor for an antibiotic you don't always need one if your doctor does prescribe it for you make sure you take it for the entire course even if you start feeling better after a day or two Good advice

2:50:11 Yeah, this tells us nothing. They're not going to do any reporting on the drug companies especially Pfizer who used to be the leader in developing antibiotics they shut down The Division and also they enjoy preventative medicine such as vaccines which gives them complete indemnity and often a free R&D budget Yeah, no. So these network news if you watch any of them and I don't recommend it but if you watch any of them You'll just see it drug ad drug ad drug ad drug add all

2:50:46 for a whole half hour, just a million drug ads. And by the way they never even mentioned the superbugs name or what it is turns out to be a form of E-coli which is nasty anyway if you get the wrong kind of E-coli because everyone knows that E-coli does exist. It's safe. It's a day wrecker But okay and I don't know if this was tech news but it seemed like something...it's a grievance. I would like to ask your opinion on two items And since you are a long time columnist in Silicon Valley, Twitter moving from 140 characters appears it's really going to happen now. I believe this is the biggest mistake they could ever make. I agree! The only difference between Facebook and Twitter is the UI That's it Yeah there are other differences but then you can surface that any way you want To take that away... It's gonna ruin Twitter! I think so too

2:51:47 I think it should be 140 characters and it accomplishes a lot. It makes, it's called micro-blogging that was the point of it to begin with thats why it was invented thats why it took off otherwise its just like a public blog and of course Dorsey or whoever said Oh well, they're doing it anyway because people you can do you can cheat the system by taking a photo of a bunch of text and posting it as a picture and go on forever. And yeah well that's I guess kind of true you could do that but there is a lot of work in most we won't do it And if they do it, they do it rarely. But I don't know... No, this is dumb." Yeah, I agree. That's a big mistake. The other thing that I believe that was just so incredibly stupid is this belief that virtual reality is going to happen. There are certainly applications for it. Certainly! I would say advertising? Advertising is the main...I think will emerge as the number one content provider for virtual reality

2:52:49 Could be. All I see is game demos, you know invest in a 3D game that's a pretty big gamble who's gonna take that gamble? There are also I think there's a lot of people that can't use these devices and I think there's a lot of people they can't use them for more than a few minutes yeah they're very stressful on your perception system You know, the image is like about an inch away from your eyeball and you have to have these crazy lenses so you can see it in focus. So it looks like it's far away. It's just a...it's very sketchy. Yeah! But I think advertising? And then what does that mean? I've not used it but Google Cardboard? Does that work with an iPhone or only with Android? Or does it work with any phone?

2:53:34 I have one, but I've never... I don't know how it works. Any phone that fits in there can be used. Oh okay alright But i think that will be fun people will use that you'll look at products and stuff times That's where the money is going to come from There are tons of money for that Especially if you just get a little cardboard thing You slip your phone in oh thats cool you like it Then military everything else is militaristic so Im just not believing that the hype is gonna pay out And oh yes, so finally lots of notes from dudes named Ben who work with AS400s, iOS 400. The Kobol guys also and all agree with our stance that although there's one point of our producers I'm going to omit all names here because a lot of people want to be anonymous

2:54:25 It said that they use virtual tape drive, so it's no longer floppies etc. but just a solid-state hard disk that mounts as if its floppy. Yeah looks like a disk. Exactly exactly Um, now the software doesn't care. The software says, okay, I can live with this and the software is works at works has been there. It works. It does the job it's not hackable. What I heard from more than one of our bar dude named Ben producers is that these days pretty much everybody outsources the iron itself. So of course to IBM and there's one competitor who would be the competitor with a new Microsoft? Yeah. With COBOL systems

2:55:08 Jeez, I don't know. Well that should know but i don't um well maybe it's a third party vendor but he said very interesting how you can really only buy cloud services from two vendors and every four years they change to the other vendor It was like collusion just going back and this is someone who worked at uh... I believe either IRS so there are all kinds of uh... Right we had our IRS guy yeah Then the one I wanted to read is let me see one of our producers here, anonymous. Now he says right up front he says I am...I want to say that i'm extremely biased here because i'm a consultant specializing in replacing old mainly COBOL systems with newer ones. I'm currently working fairly high up in the hierarchy and will report back if I hear anything juicy." And this is at a government agency like the precious replacement attempts being classified after spending 2.6 billion dollars hey this is interesting would you like to hear more?

2:56:07 I'm currently working a government contract replacing a system for keeping track of slaves who have failed to pay the government or other slaves. Fairly unique governmental institution in Sweden, when someone doesn't pay taxes bills mortgages etc the claimant sends a request and the state takes possession of your belongings takes money from the bank or takes a cut of your salary to pay the claimant that sounds like a cool system you just need to have identification be a microchip This system launched in 1977 is due to be replaced now. This is not the first attempt, it's the third attempt and the other two failed and ran massively over budget The problem with this system and the reason why it has to be replaced

2:56:46 is that it's a sprawling mess, built by cowboys in the 70s and 80s with no real supervision and no good architecture to stand on. The systems are not working as well as a 30-year old program ought to This particular system has bug fixes deployed 300 times a year It starts out small and manageable but thirty years of shoddy additions creates a support nightmare The second problem is that guys who know this system are aging One guy on the current team is 78 years old What? Yeah Spaghetti code Yep And it gets better. And replacements are hard to find, actually they can't be found since the programmers who made the system have been reluctant to teach any new ones the code base and it's currently so large there at least 50% of the code that no living person knows what it does!

2:57:28 Since no one knows the whole picture and since there's no documentation, too much implicit knowledge like restart this service every Thursday. Why? I don't know just restart it every Thursday! It's all been impossible to train new programmers has been tried and it's failed And when the current batch dies No one can keep this mess running So he is a long note He keeps on going he says you know The problem is that when these systems are being replaced Every single agency, all administrations... the government always wants to replace it one-to-one. Not redesign an entirely new system which is understandable from a no one ever got fired for buying from IBM

2:58:11 to design a better system, which of course in turn will have many bugs, many flaws vulnerabilities etc. So there's your counterpoint I guess but it's not just guffawing laughing matter like everyone is like Oh, it runs on floppies! If you're listening to podcasts or watching shows that do that. You need to question yourself and check your privilege. You need to check your privilege is what you need to do. Check your privilege. And then I'm going to leave my Spotify financials for next Sunday because that'll hold. Bottom line, they're still losing hundreds of millions. How could that be? That will probably continue Yeah it's never going to and i can make a prediction right now they will not go public this is going to end very very bad which of course will create

2:59:03 tons of opportunity. Can you read it? Earthquakes. Yes! That is for 200. About 7 million people in the United States live in areas at risk of an earthquake induced by human activity, that's according to a new report by the U.S. Geological Survey which said states including Oklahoma and Kansas are now as high of a risk as earthquake-prone California of a devastating earthquake

2:59:57 The central United States has seen a spike in seismic activity due to the injection of wastewater from oil and gas drilling deep underground. Hail science! All right, and that's how we roll Right? That sounds good to me Have a good Memorial Day everybody in the United States or around the world commemorating our fallen our soldiers Please do not go up to a serviceman and say thank you for your courage and service. It's Memorial Day, you're thinking about people it's kind of rude just letting you know not everyone understands that Yes that is true Yeah So I'm just gonna grab one of the taps so i don't know which one is going to be the right one but we're just gonna Hopefully its not done with a saxophone Ugh

3:00:47 Well, hold on a second. Maybe we should check and see yeah, that's a good one And you have this one that sounds live that may be better more appropriate. Let me see and then I have the military one No, no, it's not good all right coming to you from the skyscraper here get my nation That is FEMA Region 6 in Gitmo Nation. From the Crackpot Condo in Austin, Texas In the morning everybody my name's Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I remain! I'm John C. Dvorak We will return on Thursday remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA we'll be right here on No Agenda Adios mofos

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