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00:01 You know, at this point you might as well watch the Kardashians. It's less harmful. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, September 23rd, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 237. This is no agenda. With my de-spaced glasses firmly in place here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, following the autumnal equinox. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! The autumnal equinox you say? Last night. Yeah, but what is that? Is that any good? When the world shifts to autumn. Oh, that's right. Happy fall. Where it's stonehenge, it would have marked a celebration and probably an orgy.

00:54 Yay! You can't get the Stonehenge anymore. There's a fence around it now. Yeah, you know, when I was a kid... Yeah, I sat on the stones at Stonehenge! I sat on the stones! Yeah, you can't sit there. They got a fence around it now because it's like, you know, maybe the magical rub-off on the slaves. Yeah, no, I remember sitting on the stones. The place was empty, you know, but I mean people would go there, but it was just, you know, people, I don't know. Druids, druids and other folks. And there's a bunch of cows roaming around. I remember that too. Hey, in the morning to everybody, all ships at sea and of course our human resources in the chat room. Hope you're all nice and charged up and you've taken your meds. Your government needs you.

01:35 You're talking about government needs you. My God, I've been spending too much time this week on analyzing the new fall schedule. That's right, people over 50 are the only ones watching TV, so... There's a lot going on though, John. I got some good stuff. I've actually done some dot connecting and some real media assassination that I'm quite proud of. But first, I want you to know that two and a half years ago, when we started this show, it was two and a half years ago today, JCD bought the band to play. I was propagating the buy gold now meme

02:22 At the time gold was what about $850 an ounce I think? Maybe a little more. Getting around. Yeah. It will probably hit $1,300 today. It could. And I will predict, get out the prediction book John. Well your last prediction was what? $1,500 by the end of the year. Yeah. Yeah. So it's gonna happen. It's just unbelievable. It is unbelievable. I'm still wondering how long it's gonna be. Well you know yeah I'm not gonna comment on this. You're not down with it? No, I'm not really. I think... Because you've been saying this for two and a half years and you know it's been going up and up and up every single time so... No, I've never been... No, I'm just... I'm only not down with the 1500 or the 3000 or the 5000 that some other people are predicting. No, I think that if you take everything into account it's actually probably right now the real value is probably closer to 5000 an ounce and we could see 11,000 if everything falls apart. Well, I don't know. That's just me.

03:26 I don't know. That's only because it's an artificial construct. Gold has no intrinsic value. Yeah, okay, John, it's fine. Except industrial use. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine. And for teeth. It's good for teeth. It's good for jewelry. No intrinsic value I tell you. Somehow it's always kind of been used. I mean, you know, people have used sticks for money. People have used salt for money. Yeah, they've used shells. It was a big deal for a long time. Yeah, seeds. All kinds of stuff has been used for money. Seeds. Yeah. That'll be again, that will return. I'm convinced of this. Well, I got my heirloom seeds. You know I do.

04:02 There's a place up in Petaluma, as a matter of fact, called the Seed Bank. And they sell only heirloom seeds and they're making more money on these seeds. I think if you actually weighed the seeds they're selling for the prices they're selling... It's worth more than their weight in gold, I tell you. Totally. Absolutely worth more than the weight in gold. I read two books, John, which I want to propagate. So, knowagentabookclub.com, Alert Alert, and all the other website folks who tracks this stuff. I read two books in a row. I think one of our producers recommended it to me, to us, both by Daniel Suarez. And you have to read them in order. The first one is Daemon, or as us old school Unix folks would say, Daymon, spelled D-A-E-M-O-N. And the follow up to that, which you really have to read right after it, is Freedom. Have you read either of these books, John? No. This, I would have to say, is the modern day version of Atlas Shrugged.

04:57 it has nothing to do with the vibe of objectivism, etc. But it is so incredibly right on the money. And this guy research, he even thanks like Tony Perkins, is it Tony Perkins? No, John Perkins, confessor of economic hitman. He really got all of his information from the kind of the same sources that we have Garnered a lot of info from and the whole idea is that this crazy Game developer Matthew Sobol who dies who was already dead when the when the first book starts? created a demon to take over the world

05:43 And it's kind of based on gameplay like a World of Warcraft. And everyone walks around with these glasses on and they have D-space, so it's kind of augmented reality with stuff overlaid. But it's like this huge kind of worm, this virus that takes over all corporations and starts running the world in a really interesting manner. And it's fascinating. And when you look at the news today, It might have already happened, it might be real, it might not be a work of fiction when you see the things that are taking place. It's just really, really, really good. So I take it you like the book? Oh man, just loving it. Loving it. You should read them John, I think you'd like it. And all the technical stuff is correct and it's good. When you're done, send me the copies. I got them on my iBook. I didn't get hard copies. I purchased them in iBooks from... So there's not going to be any record in the historical... in the archaeological dig?

06:37 You've ever read these books except for this show if somebody manages to keep a transcript. I shall order them I've put links to the hard copy books in the show notes at no agenda show calm and Actually, hey there it is. It's the 9-11 right on time So on so kind of on the heels of this in the cyber wars that we're tracking John I'm sure you've heard of the Stuxnet worm. I know really I Oh this is great! I haven't heard of the Stuxnet worm. This is fantastic and this goes right along with the book. This is why I'm tripping out over him. The Stuxnet worm, this is from Bruce Schreiner. Schneier. What is his name? Schneier. He's a real security guy, right?

07:24 As far as I remember... Bruce. Bruce Schneier. The Bruce we call him. The Stuxnet worm is a quote groundbreaking piece of malware so devious in its use of unpatched vulnerability, so sophisticated in its multi-pronged approach that the security researchers who tore it apart believe it may be the work of state-backed professionals. And this thing is here, by August researchers have found something disturbing. Stuxnet, which is a great name, appeared to be able to take control of the automated factory control systems it had infected and do whatever it was programmed to do with them. That was mischievous and dangerous, but it gets worse since reverse engineering chunks of Stuxnet's massive code, which I'm sure will be distributed, we just haven't heard that yet,

08:09 Senior US cybersecurity experts confirmed that Mr. Langer, the German researcher, told the Monitor, Stuxnet is essentially a precision military-grade cyber-missile deployed early last year to seek out and destroy one real-world target of high importance. A target still unknown. The article speculates that the target is Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant. This has false flag written all over it, doesn't it? What a bunch of bull crap. But for the Bruce to propagate this, this is a big deal. I can't believe that you haven't read about this. Everyone's talking about this thing. For some unknown reason it's alluded to. Stuxnet. S-T-U-X-N-E-T.

08:53 You know and of course this comes out right about the time that the EU has presented the Internet Governance Forum. They did that in Lithuania last week where they outlined the 12 principles of Internet governance. It's a total takedown of the Internet. This Stuxnet thing is like oh it's just let's just call it the demon or what do they call it in the book they call it I guess they'd call it the demon. Don't start referring to the book info until people get a chance to read it. Most people have read Atlas Shrugged. I tell you that a lot of people have already read this because it's not brand new Stuxnet sting It has so there's been around since July or earlier Yeah, but but now everyone's saying oh, it's a it's gonna mess up Iran's nuclear facility. Yeah, right

09:44 Perfect. Holy crap and the Iran nuclear facility just blew up. Yeah, I mean how can you trust the Bruce if he's propagating this stuff? I never met the guy. But isn't he on the twit? Isn't he on Leo's network? Maybe I'm wrong. I'm thinking of somebody else. Microsoft missed the 2009 published article on the Stuxnet attack. 2009, we're going back. See, even the Microsofters didn't know about this. Yeah, well I think it attacks... I think it attacks mainframe type computers and not like Windows machines. Everything's a Windows machine. Consider the following. What's this? Digitalbomb.com. The Boucher plant has been delayed from its schedule August commissioning due to quote severe hot weather. Mmm, yes, very fishy.

10:43 Oh here it is. It's a Siemens PLCs are used and that's apparently what it's what is it PLC? I don't know. It's some kind of computer some kind of Siemens computer. So Siemens apparently is gonna get out of the game. Or Siemens as it should be pronounced. Out of the game of what computers? Yeah data. They're gonna stick to high-speed rail or something. Keep it all in the trains. It should be pronounced Siemens. I like Siemens better, but then again I would. Apparently this thing, it looks like this Stuxnet will affect the Microsoft Windows print spooler too. Oh no, my printer's gone crazy! Program Logic Controller. That's a PLC. Thank you, chatroom. Anyway, so either this is the demon taking over the world or it's a complete false flag to take down the internet and shut us all up, sleeves. Here's the best headline for the thing.

11:49 from Fergal Ladley. It stucks to be you. And how did they come up with his name? No one has given us the etymology of the name, which I really want. Well, you know, these names are generally designated by the people who discover the virus in the wild. Like stars. It's like finding a new star. You get to name it. That's great. And every so often when two or three of these antivirus companies discover the thing around the same time, they all kind of want to name it themselves. And so that you have these contradictory names and you have the same exact virus. I get the feeling that this one was named by Symantec, mainly because of the way the articles are falling out here on the search. So Symantec, so we're long on Symantec then, I guess. We got to buy some stock.

12:40 Well, let's take a look. Are they taking up? This is what we do here folks for the and we do have some newbies in the chat room in the morning to y'all. Some fresh meat as it were. This is what we do. We pull apart the media. We help you understand the world around you. We are your de-scape glasses. You just put the show on and all of a sudden everything becomes crystal clear to you. It's a beautiful thing. Totally beautiful. We just sit here goofing around. Where the hell is the stock here? Come on. One more second. Yeah one you done we got to get to some producers man because if I learn how to spell semantic was 14 bucks a share at the moment and

13:29 with a range of... it hasn't done much. It's been dropping. Oh well there you go, now it's time. Time to get in there. It actually bounced back up around the first of September or so and it went from like twelve and a half to fifteen. So maybe there's something up with this Stuxnet thing. Keep your eye on the Stuxnet. We found a solution! Yes. That'll be the announcement. And we got some producers this week. Good. I guess we had a good show last week. People liked it, right? Uh, no, everybody says you guys suck, so here's some money, maybe you can improve. Okay, good. Thank you. That really helps. Paul Couture, of course, came in with some donations from the second generation coins. Well, this is a little different. Yeah, well, in this case, apparently, today is his wedding anniversary. Yes, Dame Adriana K. Kane, although she will be a dame today. She's been given the damehood.

14:25 and he's driving back from Drupal camp. I have to ask him, because I've always wondered, and this has been open to debate, is it Drupal or Drupal? I think it's Drupal. I always call it Drupal. I think it's Drupal. Can I just read that note, because I really love the note that he sent to us. So he says, this is for Um, soon to be Dame Adriana K. Cain Couture's Damehood. Today, September 23rd, is our wedding anniversary. And driving back from Drupal camp, listening to the show, she seemed awful eager to kneel before you two as you whipped out your swords. Not sure how I should feel about that. But what she wants, she gets.

15:06 Could you at least remind her that her husband Sir Paul loves her very much in the morning? Well, of course Sir Paul Lord of the Rings we expected no less and he does have a coin update for the of the 42 10 10 10 coin as of 3 a.m. Central Time 472 of the 500 coins have been sold and and and by the way, he has a challenge for us John to pronounce pronounce Adriana's Real full name. In other words, what does the K stand for? Well, no, I guess she's uh She's American Indian. So her full name is Winsicala Wadaduga Adriana K. Kane Couture. Well, you just did it. Yeah, pretty good. Or as he says Polly Wally doodle all day couture. All right Well, congratulations guys on your wedding anniversary. I'm sure the Dame is just

16:09 Chuffed chuffed by now. He never told us what the number of years were we could have sent him a gift reflecting that type of Anniversary it was yeah, we could have could have been anything could have been gold That would be 50. I'd somehow I doubt Paul Couture has been married for 50 years. I thought gold was 5. No man, no. Gold is 50. 25 is silver. 12 and a half is plastic. And uh... Plastic? How far back in history does that go? Alright, so we appreciate of course Sir Paul Couture, Lord of the Rings, who was bestowed damehood on his bride. We shall dame her later. Who else do we have on the list?

16:52 We have Mitch Bidron who is in Long Beach, California. John Adam first of all is desperate, desperate he says, in need of a de-douching. Might as well do that right off the bat. You've been de-douched. Listen for a long time and never donated other than the 10 10 10 coin also I need some karmic assistance so we can put the vibe out my wife has been sick for 18 months Which is why I gave us said it was 540 days and he donated $540 We're looking for any help we can get it's not fun to watch my beautiful human resource suffer

17:29 That's Jill by the way, and we wish her all kinds of car. Oh, man She has he doesn't go in any details all kinds of karma I know that the rest of the human resources will be wishing her good karma as well And we're hoping for a change there Mitch Larry Lee in Granite Shoals, Texas 3 3 3 3 3 I'm a big fan regular listener of X radio on Lake LBJ which I suspect is one of those pirate radio stations you mentioned on no agenda must be. Hope so. Although you never know, we have a commercial station plays our show, we don't care. Nope. I need something to add to my resume, which means he's an executive producer and good karma as well.

18:10 and then another new knight Timothy Cavanaugh from Lawton Michigan 333 333 John and Adam final installment towards knighthood also like to congratulate Charlie McKinney and Valerie Williams on the birth of their first slave. Alden McKinney, slave Alden as it were. Is it Alden or Aiden? I think it's Aiden. Aiden? Oh, Aiden, yeah. It'd be Aiden. Even though his parents claim he was born in the evening, could you throw out an in the morning to him? Hello, Sleave. Welcome to the world. We've brought an in the morning to anybody who wants one. Hell yeah. And who else do we have? We got a couple of associates. Okay. Cole Candler in Lynchburg, Virginia. Very famous town.

19:07 Why is it famous? Why is it famous? I forgot for some reason. It's got a school or something. It just keeps coming up in the conversation. This is not Greg, this is Rory. This next one. And Rory, yes. Rapid City, South Dakota 225. This is Rory Stone. Rapid City, South Dakota gentleman has been too long coming. I've met him wait a minute. This is from last week Yeah, how did this get in here? Yeah, Eric sent me a note. This is from last week does he have anything to promote though? at the bottom there? Yeah, he wants something, he's got, take a look on that. DakotaBisonFurniture.com. That's his family's business. Handmade buffalo leather furniture. Oh yeah, that's what we didn't mention. Yeah. Dakota Bison Furniture, apparently he makes handmade buffalo leather stuff, including iPad cases. Yeah, I need to get me one of those. They look beautiful. And it's just kind of cool. What's that? Is it buffalo?

20:01 It's Buffalo, baby. We don't miss around. Mainly because I was buffaloed into buying one of these suckers. Don't say that. Yeah. It's from our night, man. It's from one of our nights. It's a night. That's fine. He's a good night. I'm glad that he's deconstructed the whole Apple model. Yeah. Okay, Alan. And then we have one more? Not on my list. Do you have one? Don't we have... What's Alan Cavito III? No, he's not at the $200 level where that begins to associate executives. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know there was a level. I never pay attention to that. You always handle all this stuff. It's on the website. It's pretty clear. Oops. We've only been doing this for two and a half years. What the hell do I know?

20:49 Okay, before we continue. I do have a couple of PR shoutouts some very interesting ones first of all We had a nice little write-up John on the spy report. Are you familiar with this website media spy? Yeah, I didn't know we were mentioned. Yeah, so this is Out today over the past and this is what I like about it because it's about our model. This is really nice Why the future of media has no agenda? great headline over the past few months have become an avid listener of the no agenda podcast not just for the scintillating, no scintillating repartee between the hosts but as a bit of a look into the future of the new media industry and in particular how content will be funded and promoted. Listen up everybody this is working. For those of you who do not know what No Agenda is all about it's a bi-weekly two-hour podcast presented by XMTV personality and tech entrepreneur Adam Curry and veteran technologist John C. Dvorak focusing on issues generally not covered by the mainstream media from a largely independent libertarian perspective. Well that's not entirely true but

21:45 Now I don't agree with a lot of what they say. I love it how people always do that. Yeah, I don't agree with everything they say. Why would anyone agree with anything you say? That's the whole point. Especially the New World Order argument. Okay slave. But it certainly provides a different angle on many of the ongoing news stories of forthcoming technologies which is what any media player in any form should be doing. Now, but the more interesting side of the show comes from how the show is funded and promoted. Crackpot and the Buzzkill, as the jingle goes, promote the concept of open source media. That is, they allow fans, well we call them producers but close enough, to take the show and do what they want with it

22:21 All with the aim of giving the show exposure in the wider online world and in order to keep the show independent from commercial influences. The show carries no advertising aside from the various fundraising initiatives such as subscriptions of various amounts from $5 a month to $1,000 night hoods and related merchandise including coins and medallions. While many of the old media revert Reverts to pay walls and litigation to secure diminishing revenue streams this venture might prove to be an example of How to do things right in the new media world in the morning to you all Well, there's a guy who gets it. Yeah, who wrote this big Dan big Dan wrote it sounds like he sounds like a shill for us doesn't he? big Dan

23:03 Alright nice though. I really appreciate that. That's a that's a nice little shout out then we have no agenda dice calm Which is a brand new initiative speaking of fantastic products, and these are beautiful. Yeah, they do look good They'd be on the the one it's got no agenda show calm in the morning and on the six where the six would be There's a no agenda. That's kind of our media assassination logo It's just beautiful so you can check those out and of course that link goes into the show notes at no agenda show calm Craig Human resource Craig says the he's working on this working with the site called get glue get glue calm apparently These glue stickers are a big hit everyone from HBO to Showtime to o NPR and Nova are sponsoring stickers and he talked to the VP of business development and apparently they're going to Set up some no agenda get glue stickers for free for us

24:02 And I'm not quite sure what this is, but apparently these Get Glue stickers are a big deal. So... I'm not familiar with it. I mean, how's it different than No Agenda stickers? I have no idea. I have no idea. You know what it is? I don't have an idea either. So Ben, I don't like doing this, but I'm going to just mouth off thinking what it might be. because it sounds like what it might be. You know, over the years and the reason we're doing noagendastickers.com is that underground bands and other kind of sketchy organizations have made these little stickers and they stick them all over everything around town. It's almost like littering. Oh, I get it. I know what it is. I know what it is.

24:43 Here get glue is a social network for entertainment with more than 8 million new unique ratings and check-ins for TV shows and maybe it's a It's a sticker that has oh, yeah, you use a mobile app and then you check in on the stickers or something like that It's like one of these like four square. Yeah, like a check-in thing. I don't know. Look it's an initiative. We'll do it. Hey, we're in hell. Yeah. Hell. Yeah Shout out to Valen or Valon who gave me a screen grab of the sales trend chart for the No Agenda iPhone game, which is just too hilarious for words. Find it in the links that rock in the show notes. So he'll be sending us some money, he says. Thank you very much. Jay Gothier, or Goat-yay, says, and this is just the PR meme amongst the youngins, every time my eldest hears you're in the morning jingle, she ends up repeating it all day long.

25:39 Seriously though, thanks for opening my eyes in the process. My progeny as well. Now I feel they have a fighting chance at least. Indoctrinating them young to see the truth. And here is, here she is. This is young Liv. Yeah, that's a good one. That's awesome. Main heard our uh... That one we should just use that every week. There's always something about a little kid's voice. I've always thought that the... It's awesome. A chorus of little kids saying things is just great, great material. Because it just sounds... Oh, sorry. They're off, you know, because they just have that voice. Yeah, they do. Hey Adam and John, it's morning!

26:25 Always good for always good. Thank you. Hey Livvy our friend Maynard who works down there and get mo nation down under For the mainstream media wrote an an accompanying article to go with a piece he did on atheists And his tagline there on the website, which you can read for yourself, there are some anti-atheists in the UNAS, but Brett agrees that there's not a lot of point in going out and hitting people in the mouth with your beliefs just for the sake of it. Nice one Maynard, nice to slip that in, our memes are always welcome. And then finally John Thompson says, hey guys my mom has now started calling her laundry room Gitmo Nation stain removal.

27:10 All right, mom fantastic. We love it so many many thanks to Adriana couture Mitch Brown Larry Lee and Timothy Kavanaugh our executive producers for episode 237 of the no agenda show associate executive producers Cole Oops, is it Chandler? I miss it. I can't lose my lose. I close it to hold on Just want to make sure I get it, right No, Candler. It's Candler. I had it right Cole Candler and Rory Stone by now, you know the deal This is an official credit You can put it on anything where a credit would be appropriate with the big difference Between us and Hollywood if you need someone to vouch for you will actually call you We didn't just take the check and cash it and tell you to go screw yourself We're actually here for you. Everybody else out there. You've got to do one important thing go out and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

28:09 Nice to have a young little slave with us. Okay, that all said So, uh... What you got, Johnny boy? I'm telling you what I got. I mean, it's just like a rundown of these crappy shows. I mean, my whole week was wasted. Why? You know, I want to get... So now you want to waste everyone else's time with a rundown of the crappy shows? Yeah, I'm telling you, I got good insight. This is not wasting anybody's time and I think our donations should go up because I'm going to save people lots of time. Ah, you're going to spoil the 2010 fall season.

28:55 I'm telling you. So here's the big... Why don't you play the real news theme? Because that's basically what we're talking about here. What happened? Something got really confused. What is wrong with you? Hey, it's real news everybody. All right, so here's the here's the there's a bunch of their shows There's gonna be a second version of this little rundown because there's more shows You're not gonna bore us once you're gonna bore us twice exactly now I didn't get it I'm gonna mention that did like the defenders I didn't get to see but the shows I did get to see that are just the worst ever

29:36 Let's begin with the chase. Did you get to watch this piece of crap? No, I... When they made fun of it... I was too busy watching C-SPAN! All they do is chase! It starts with some woman running after some guy. They run and they run and they run and some other guy runs and they stop. It's not false advertising. At least they're true to their word. There he is! They run and they run and they run! It's the chase, that's what it is. It's unbelievable! And so it's a piece of crap, totally. And then there's another one that NBC rolled out called The Event. The event? Oh, wait, this is an out there UFO thing? I don't know. Here's the point. This brings up a pet peeve of mine. And it's getting worse by the minute, and I was very annoyed by the way to see it implemented by Scorsese in the Boardwalk Show. Hey, I like the Boardwalk Show!

30:25 I have a bitch about that too, but I like it too and I'm gonna watch it, but I'm gonna bitch about something very important about the Boardwalk show. Alright, alright. And we're listening. So the event is about, I don't know, something that happened. It starts like this. Three weeks earlier. Five minutes earlier. Six days earlier. Oh no, I know what this is. This is supposed to fill in the 24 slot that is now open. They're trying to make a 24 like show where it's all in time and you're confused I can't keep track of where we are two minutes earlier seven minutes earlier It's like these comic there's a bunch of comedies that came out with this one minute earlier. You know and there's like the You go back to these I think get shorty had a you know five days earlier I'm getting sick of this two days earlier five days earlier six days earlier it can't you just tell the story It's a television show for God's sake you know

31:19 I think it qualifies. Anyway, the point is five days earlier, three days earlier, I'm sick of it. So anyway, so that show sucks. Don't watch it. Okay. Now I have high hopes for JJ Abrams, our friend. You know, did Alias, he did Lost, he did Star Trek, the movie. he does a show called undercover i have a clip this is the worst show he's ever done he should quit it just take his money and retire okay this is about to a let me give you a set up the clip is there it's it's about to xc i a guys that run a catering business are there as a black couple very uh... yuppie black couple that are a

32:06 it interesting is shot like you do you know it's it's it's not a like a blight a soap operas and this guy comes in some x's and cia guide comes in to try to get them to rejoin the agency that they quit five years ago united leader real life and then he'd be rates them for not taking the assignment of course they eventually take the assignment and then the guy talks to superiors said do they really know what they're doing he says we didn't tell him the truth and it does all things just a crappy spied pieces junk It's not even remotely funny.

33:01 I'll tell my office you declined No surprise there. Hold on a second. I don't like your tongue. Well, you're not wrong. Mr. Bloom. I am having trouble putting on a game face I had a personal jolly over that one for you. I knew coming here would be a waste of my time Why would you to come back to assist an agency you abandoned? This guy's trying to do a Jack Nicholson in

33:46 What is it you can't handle the truth? Maybe anyway back it up a little bit I didn't notice this because of me watching it on TV. You don't notice the Patriotism thing they got the black guy Mike apparently was something from Radio Shack And this other guys in a booth. It's a realistic wireless microphone Gonna give us the speech of our patriotism. If not me perhaps someone should I read your file, how you never worked together but you had difficulty maintaining a relationship while remaining separate field agents. My heart broke for you. You deserted the rest of us and so now it's the job of a career agent to beg two caterers to help with national security. Well you know what? I've got difficulty with that.

34:36 I'm telling you, Jack Nicholson should get residuals for this. You know, actually, you know who it really represents to me when I'm listening to this? I wish I had a clip of it someplace because I love this clip. It's a clip from the Seinfeld show where there's the librarian cop. There's a cop in the library that's chewing out Kramer and... Oh, he's a library cop, right, right, right, right. For not turning in the book. But I did it, didn't I? Alright, now please tell me this is the end of this segment. Yeah, I mean this is all I'm gonna do. Well wait, no wait, I got one more. Boardwalk Empire, you want to talk about that? No, first I gotta mention one more horrible piece of crap don't watch. I was hoping it was gonna be good. Hawaii Five-0. Hey, I thought that was gonna be great. It's terrible!

35:27 It's beyond terrible and they shoot everybody with a one inch away from your face close up and everybody talks with high drama. Oh no. It is a piece of crap. I had high hopes for that. Oh, it's really bad. I had really, really high hopes. Yeah everybody! Zoom in close on my face because this is a Hawaii Five-O! Adam Curry, John T. Dvorak, we are Five-O! See, we could do a good job. We can talk about Rubicon later.

36:07 Rubicon? Okay. I'm not, by the way Rubicon's the good one. Boardwalk, we can talk about boardwalk later. Hey John, I've connected some dots that I wanted to talk with you about. So what's our hypothesis regarding the president, his re-election and Hillary Clinton? The hypothesis is basically, there's actually two, it's forked a little bit, but the basic hypothesis is that Obama's going to resign uh... because he was a spend more time with his family and uh... they've been also because he doesn't seem to like the job and we're getting a lot of feedback from the media syndicated that michelle hates being the first lady in his office this is all being set up for the public not to be too upset if obama bails out and then let's hillary takeover cuz i guess she was these pre-assigned uh... presidential candidate so a couple things uh... came out in succession

37:02 Which, uh, hold on, I have to get them all lined up here. So first of all, Forbes came out, so I agree, you know, we've got to get Obama out and we've got to work in a coordinated effort to do so. So Forbes comes out with this article which just, I mean, ties a chain around Obama's leg, attaches a huge cement block to it and drags him down to 20,000 leagues under the sea. It's a five page article which you have to read I mean just and a lot of stuff that we've talked about is in there So, you know for you know, it's not just the he's an anti business president. This is like the guy sucks That's basically I can sum up the whole article for you right there. You have to read that as a backgrounder but then there's three clips I want to play for you and Whenever Donald Trump appears on the scene then the fix is in would you agree? Oh, yes stooge so

37:59 They roll out Trump on Wolf Blitzer. It's not even in the Situation Room. Wait, let's back up a second. Think about it. Why would you bring Trump on as an analyst of anything except maybe structural cement? Of course. Well, that's exactly what it is. He's a block that's going to be tied around Obama's leg. So now you've got to play a couple of other clips to pull it all together. But you know whenever Trump shows up, then that's it, right? It's like, okay, Ministry of Truth speaking. So listen to him with Wolf Blitzer. As you remember, Jimmy Carter, the final year of his presidency when he lost his bid for re-election was very tense. The interest rates were really high. The 444 days of Americans held hostage in Iran. Are you saying what you feel and see right now is as bad

38:48 in the country is that I think it was really bad and I think it's really bad now but I'd see the head of Iran making all sorts of very strong statements if you remember with Jimmy Carter they had the hostages is the head of Iran because he can't remember the guy's name this is the smoke coming out of his ears. Yeah he cannot pronounce it. He's like the head of Iran you know that guy. Alright now listen very closely to what he's saying. Jimmy Carter they had the hostages and Ronald Reagan said they won't be in there for one minute and before ronald reagan took office they released everybody out this was the uh... october surprise was not john uh... when uh... there was a there what no they released him after the election of the but no it was like right they would they got on the plane they went there they got the hostages like this the second after he was president of the trumpeting is a little incorrect in his younger but he will after his president was in october was in november

39:44 Let's listen to what Trump says. I thought it was called the October surprise. I think it was the Iranian hostages. Yeah, it was the Iranian hostages. No, the hostages were in there for over a year. No, no, but they released them. They got them out. as Reagan was becoming president. You look that up and I'll play this again. Before Ronald Reagan took office they released everybody, alright? We need somebody that knows how to speak to other countries and we need somebody that knows how to speak to our enemies. Oh, okay, so here's what Trump is calling for. He's saying we've got a hostage in Iran. Now of course we know we've got some hostages in Iran. How interesting is that?

40:25 This is just we're opening up the playbook again. We need somebody who knows how to speak to foreigners. We know somebody who now who could that be John? Who do you think knows how to speak to? Well, let me think guys. Who's out speaking to foreigners constantly? I think it's just a woman. Yeah, well, let's listen to more of a Trump. I think President Obama can. Well, something's wrong. We're not respected throughout the world. We used to be respected. If you look at the Reagan years, we really were respected. Let's go back to Reagan again. Let's just remind you, we're not respected like back then when Reagan was president. We're not respected anymore as a country. Yeah, I get no respect. Those are tough words. We're getting more respect with Obama. Now we're getting less respect. How does this work? Listen, he said tough words. Listen, Trump has a great comeback line though. Well, I don't know if they're tough words. I think they're accurate words.

41:13 I love that. He's great at that. They're accurate words. We can use that a lot. That's great. If you listen to Obama and his supporters, there's greater respect now for the United States as opposed to during the Bush administration. Absolutely. Well, I'm not a fan of Bush, and you know that better than anybody. I thought Bush was a horrible president. This is his protecting himself. He was absolutely atrocious. And certainly this whole mess started toward the end of his reign. Now stay tuned. But Obama has not taken us to that level that we have to be. I watched yesterday as a woman very eloquently stated that, you know, she's middle income, middle this, middle that. She was looking for the American dream. I mean, she stated it so beautifully. And this was a supporter of his. Yeah, yeah. She stated it so beautifully because she was a shill.

42:00 Totally now for those of you who haven't heard that I do want to bring that clip out for a second. Yeah, we have it This is the woman who said she was exhausted of defending the president's question right here Thank you very much and quite frankly good. Good afternoon President Obama I am deeply honored to finally be in this forum and so grateful for CNBC making the form available If you can speak to American citizens just like myself, well, it's so perfect and thank you CNBC and thank you Jeffrey Immelt and thank you everybody who is paying me to stand here before you. I am and she's from Washington. She's she's she's fed listen. I am a chief financial officer for a veteran service organization and veteran service or fed fed

42:42 That's here in Washington. I'm also a mother. I'm a wife. I'm an American veteran and I'm one of your middle-class Americans and quite frankly I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that I've... Now we know that wherever the president goes, no matter what forum he's in, there is never ever ever anyone allowed anywhere near a microphone who is not on board with the program. Ever! This is not like all of a sudden, oh, how did she get through? How did she breach our security? How could she say that she's exhausted with the president and change not coming? Please! You agree? I have to agree because we've seen this in the past in the way that especially with Obama how they have managed to really vet to an extreme these questioning people.

43:42 Nobody, by the way, has picked up on the fact that the possibility... because everyone... I was listening to the Ed show and some of these other left-wing talk shows during the week, in between watching crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Passes for entertainment. Anyway, so... and one of the things that they're all saying, in fact, I remember... and the Shills are calling into the right-wing shows too, because I remember Hannity getting a call where the guy says, and the guys posing as a democrat and hannity's oh yeah well you're full of crap oh you think everything's like that but the but the meme is is that uh... this woman was planted by the republicans by her friend

44:20 friend Richard Steele right no way everybody hates it was a black guy yeah and Richard Steele somehow arranged this whole nefarious of the situation well he may have but that's only because the Democrats and the Republicans are the same thing doesn't make any difference this is to get Obama out and the true now here comes the kicker here comes the kicker when you hear this it all comes together it's just beautiful so Bill Clinton held his Clinton Global Initiative, better known as CGI, which I find hilarious by the way, because of course CGI is computer graphic imagery.

44:58 uh... which uh... isn't mainly fake so his cgi in new york you too gets to do an interview uh... with uh... the former president and uh... and these questions were posed by normal regularly regular everyday people who all happen to be able to uh... record for eighty p in high definition and put it on you to with great sound not a webcam in the bunch that's me and by the way at the cameras are all handheld You can see them all, you know, like this hand held over the shoulder stuff. But it's beautiful. It's beautifully done. And go ahead and look on YouTube and tell me anything looks like that.

45:36 and here comes a question from friends of the hostages in iran and billy boy brings it all together for us let's move from haiti for a moment to iran and one of the top of the question they came in had to do with the three american hikers or um... fighters there for over a year for just recently uh... sarah shore one of the three actors was released but josh the call and shame our still there uh... this question comes from some friends of josh Hello, President Clinton. My name is Dallar Ryan. I'm Rachel Watson. And I'm Rosie Korenczuk. This is our bike show. Something Josh Vitale, who is one of the three hikers unjustly detained in Iran, built and named the Center for Appropriate Transportation. Hey, YouTube. You know, ever heard of a fricking mixer?

46:27 idiots if you can't do it in a fake it you might as well like put the sound input into the board it sounds like auto tune yes stupid is a course of action for free history apparent inappropriate espionage charges and bring them home and then by the way everyone who's asking questions will come back to this later is all reading you can see any of course three last year with the other journalists uh... what do you think about the situation around well first of all The young woman who was held has been released and I think that's a good sign. The Iranians use them for publicity value. They know that these young people are not in any way involved in espionage.

47:11 John you and I ran down the list of these people. They're total spooks. Oh, yeah, total spooks But at least two of them. And they all came out of University of California by the way, which I'm now convinced is kind of where they're being trained I mean that's where Ling Ling and Lam Lam came from. Yeah, they're all spooks. And I was just over there with my wife the other day like yesterday looking across from the campus and looking at all the new buildings going up. They're supposedly losing money. This place is being built. It's looking like a government facility more and more the get the buildings that are going up for government looking buildings in the whole places like it was taken over I don't know when these hikers had had worked and lived in what Syria in Iraq and they lived all over the gathers graduated from school with some crazy degree and went right to Syria and they've been bouncing around the world and the one guy this the third guy he's been

48:00 everywhere. I mean when you see somebody who's in their 20s who has lived everywhere, not just everywhere but Somalia. I mean come on. Spook, spook. Spooking to Somalia under any circumstance. Alright so here comes Billy Boyd to bring it all together for us. And I know that this is a question that my wife could more properly handle than me because Hillary worked very hard on this issue and they won't stop working just because she's been released. The two, Josh and the other young man who are there, Shane, they're clearly innocent of any espionage and I believe that. Clearly innocent? What proof do you have of that Billy boy? Clearly innocent because it's all the script here listen. If we just keep working at it and the United States continues to

48:55 He's really searching because he's reviewing the script in his head right now. You can actually see his brain, which is a little bit slower than it used to be, working, trying to... What was I supposed to say? Oh yeah, I remember. Everything that was done to get the young woman released, Sarah, I think that eventually they'll be released. We just have to keep working at it. It's a... Unfortunately, they're political footballs. There may come a time when the Iranians, if they decide they want to talk to us about all these other issues. will ask for some high-level representative of the government to go there and bring them home. Oh, John, who could that high-level representative of the government be to bring them home? Hmm. Huh, I wonder. Hmm, I'm trying to think who could that be? Who could we, who could we, hmm, could it be... I've got it! What? Hillary! Oh no, you can't be serious! Hot pockets! But that's a... Jesus. Wait, let's back up a minute. Listen to that.

50:00 It's like a frickin' Blackhawk. One, two, three, four Blackhawks just went over the watchtower. nice well if you have a i can take care of the show oh my god it's a whole formation is crazy showing off to the public yeah well good job look what we can do so let's summarize what's going on here well first of all i want to mention i want to just get one little factoid in play because you know she's they're clearly not according to clinton clearly not uh... uh... spies espionage agents So so what we're what we're saying here is that they went through apparently a no man's land called Iraq the area that is completely filled with landmines All land mines where they went through and then they creep into Iran because hey who's gonna know we got the gear here They're not gonna kick you who's gonna think anyone's gonna come through this part to get into Iran? Proof

51:00 And so then they get into the country, they're immediately nabbed and the next thing you know this is going on but it's just oh there's no espionage involved, kids are always walking through land mine fields. They're hiking! They're hiking! They're hiking! They're hikers! They're just hikers. They came from Berkeley, they've got to be good. Yeah, they're wearing Birkenstocks from Berkeley, they're hikers. Alright, so but you can see the script coming together you get Trump on the scenes like so the deal is it's a it's back to the Reagan playbook the Hillary's gonna be the big hero whether it's right during the election or what it's it's gonna happen She will be the one that clearly can speak to the Iranians and by the way the war with Iran is over in case you didn't know as It was actually Max Kaiser who? Who broke this

51:51 As now Goldman Sachs and Citibank have opened up, have received permission and have opened up offices in Iran. Sold! Done! Exactly! So it's all over. Forget about it. It's not a problem anymore. I win a bet by the way. Somebody did bet me that we're gonna bomb them. No way! No way! I know that guy owes me a hundred bucks. I lost track of the bet. I rarely do that. I think I'm getting old. Yeah, I think so. But he's listening. So yeah, and of course the way this works is Goldman Sachs and Citibank move in there and then Iran has to borrow a hundred billion dollars from them and pay them back. You know, that's what it's all about. Yes, it's economic. Yeah, they're in the program. It's all done. It's all taken care of. Yeehaw! War is over. It's all over people. No worries. All right, let's back up a second so just to get your facts straight.

52:41 The October surprise referred to something done by the Nixon administration, which was declaring the end of the Vietnam War prematurely in October. And everything that happens in October since then was based on that. There was no October surprise with the 444-day hostage crisis. They were released, as a matter of fact, in January, just a day or two after Carter was out of office. Right. Okay, that's it. And it was actually if I remember right the Canadians were actually largely responsible for getting a few of them out because none of the other The other countries would help us douchebags. They weren't in the script. They they weren't sag so they couldn't participate

53:26 So, okay. I think that's I think this is all part of the hit the Clinton run up and they're just they're just rolling Yeah, they're just rolling out the whole script again. They even using the same guy. They called up the a Iran Whoever you talked over in Iran, right? Some guy Iran is that guy from Iran? Hey, remember what we did in the 70s, you know when we got to Take care of it. Don't worry about it. Hey Hey, we're gonna send Hillary over. She's a good gal. She's a good gal. No problem. You know, and then you give our spot, I mean, our hikers back. it's a it's all you have to scramble to figure out what to do about the clinton library which is some corrupt operation no you don't that has been a funding from nobody knows is mostly from middle eastern sources we believe and uh... and then they also have to deal with the clinton uh... this haiti fund that he had there was a guy a year or two years to straighten up the books put the window dressing up make everything look good it's gonna take that long

54:23 I'm still waiting for the Clinton Foundation 2009 annual report to come out. Now they have their propaganda piece up there for 2009. How's this for a thought? It's delayed because they have to have consultants looking at the numbers to make sure they won't hurt Hillary sometime two years from now. Totally right on the money, John, because they have audited financials for 2008 and 2009. You think that as we close in on 2011 maybe it's time to put 2009 up? Either they haven't filed or they certainly haven't posted their numbers. And we know that the Clinton Foundation

55:09 Spends over 30 million dollars a year in salaries alone let alone what they're what they're spending on Jets and stuff like that 30 million dollars, but they bring in a quarter of a billion dollars a year at least they did in 2008 Yeah, so so I will give you just a parallel to that from the Express in the United Kingdom get more nation East News that came out today, Singer Bono's AIDS charity is under fire for spending more on its staff wages than it does on its own cause. Oh really? How surprising. What a stunner! Holy crap Adam, where did you find such information? How could it? It can't be true! It can't be true! No, this can't be true! According to the report, the US charity took in

55:55 9.6 million pounds in public donations in 2008, the latest year for which US public tax records are available, so even these guys aren't reporting. A meager 118,000 pounds was split between three charities while more than 5 million was spent on executive and employee salaries. Oh my goodness! Oh Bono, wow, you've disappointed us Bono! So this is for the One campaign. This is really great. They have 120 people worldwide. That's how you get to your 5.1 million pounds. That's about 8 million dollars in salaries.

56:33 and uh... really they're really funny bid here about what they're doing in the UK uh... the ten million dollar one campaign to wipe out aids and poverty bombarded New York newspapers with freebies this week John would you like to know what these freebies are? Corruption! Here it comes packed in four shoe boxes by staff from the charity the gifts included a ten pound bag of Starbucks coffee a 10 pound moleskin leather notebook, a 13 pound water bottle and a plastic ruler. Also included was a small tin of band-aid band-aids with two syringe style pens. That's good for the kids to get used to heroin. Along with a letter urging President Obama to give almost 4 billion pounds to the United Nations Swiss-based Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria in Africa.

57:27 Another container held an oversized cookie and water bottle with a letter calling for funds for clean water and sustainable sources of food skies of What an elitist prick? Sending people band-aids. It's a freebie take a band-aid Yeah, and by the way the people they really like they left out the bag of Starbucks ones Yeah, because they're there exactly some guys will get it. I hear you I Anyway, so yeah, so I think you're right John. I think we will not see numbers from the Clinton Foundation Because there are people like us who are on it. Yeah, the numbers have got to be scrubbed There's gonna be some kind of confusion and Hillary's gonna get in and you can just see it happening. It's it's so Yeah, you know that she's still defeatable

58:11 By... Unfortunately by who? Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin versus Hillary. We lose no matter what happens. It's the battle of the bitches. Yeah, we do lose big time. Because they're both MKUltra. You know they are. I don't know. Palin certainly is. He has Monarch, Project Monarch written all over her. I have to agree with that. Christine O'Donnell went in there or Rachel Ray. Who's that guy? That's right, Christine O'Donnell. She looks like Rachel Ray. Well, that was a good run. I liked that analysis. I think you nailed it. Can I just do one more? And I agree with the fact that that woman planted... I mean, we've never seen that with Obama before. And my favorite line, though, is the one that he delivered. Well, you know, you have credit cards and blah, blah, blah. She says, no. And it stopped him. Right. I know. Keep going. She says, keep going. Keep going.

59:02 So one more thing about this, and we could play the whole 25 minute YouTube Clinton interview and we would just crack up throughout the whole thing but that would be like a separate show. But there's one more thing I wanted to play. So the news came out Wyclef Jean has dropped his Haiti presidential bid. And I'm not sure if this was a screw-up in timing or if the idea is to have some kind of She'll government elected and then immediately overthrown and why clef will come in Because here's what Billy boy had to say the first question right off the bat by the way in this YouTube thing was about Haiti So what yes is it possible that when Wycliffe gets in the Gulf Stream? He leaves a note for Clinton who uses it the next time I

59:54 Well, listen to what Clinton's... so he's gonna go through some bullshit which we'll laugh about but then listen to... what is the problem with Wyclef? The reason why they have rejected his presidential bid is because he hasn't lived in Haiti for five years or some bullcrap like that, right? So basically not a citizen or whatever it is. Now listen to Billy Boyle. And a lot of the questioners that submitted questions today had questions about those challenges. By the way, who is this jabroni interviewing the president? YouTube, YouTube please. And they have like a sign on an easel in the background that says YouTube. Great guys, nice set dressing. So let's get started. Our first question is from Romain who is from Haiti. Romain in Haiti who is reading his entire question in 480p high def.

1:00:42 First of all, my name is Romain Vernet. I'm from Leogane, Haiti. Well, Haiti has a plethora of issues and problems. As you also know, it has great potential. He sounds really Haitian too, doesn't he? Oh yeah! Trash, sanitation, health, environment... The guy's got a saxophone hanging on the wall in the background. It's like... It's code. It is, of course. Lack of jobs and lack of energy production are among the nuisances that plague... Lack of energy production? They sold off half the island for energy production. Like the island and its people. How can small businesses

1:01:19 with the base abroad get funding to grow in Haiti. Thank you. Now this is just going to be funny so we won't analyze this part but we have to stop and laugh. Thank you for your time and have a great meeting. Thank you Romain. Well first of all he's right there are a lot of challenges and you know I'm the co-chair of this international commission to rebuild Haiti. Half the members are Haitian, half the members are foreign donors, an international organization and it's working very well. But the government money that will be going to Haiti will be used mostly for rubble removal, housing, road building, you know, these big infrastructure projects. People are still in tents! What big infrastructure projects? People are starving, they're getting washed away! How about some food? How about a place for them to stay? No, we need big infrastructure because I gotta get my hotel up.

1:02:15 He's hit on a very important problem Which is that there's there's really not a small business loan facility in Haiti and when small businesses try to borrow money from existing banks they face astronomical interest rates 40 50 percent so we really like that plan of astronomical interest rates so we came up with our own plan with my friend down in Mexico so I have been doing quite a bit of work on this. Because I saw the opportunity. And two people who work with me around the world, Carlos Slim from... Oh, Carlos Slim, yeah, he's a good guy. He's a real good guy. Carlos Slim, yeah, he's my buddy. I mean, even the name Carlos Slim... Which, by the way, in German and in Dutch means smart.

1:02:59 Slim you're smart. You're you're you're kind of like Sleek smart like slimy smart almost Frank juicer from Canada have set up a 20 million dollar facility 20 million dollars we can turn that into 200 million dollars you just watch To make loans to small and medium-sized businesses so we can enslave them right now and I'm gonna try to get more money put into this fund as more loan applications come in. Now let's get back to Wyclef Jean. I think it's really important that the Haitian diaspora participate in this. What is diaspora except a Facebook? I mean a large group of people who have left and become citizens in some other areas. Okay, right, this is it. So what would Wyclef Jean be? Would he be a diaspora? He'd be a member of it. Okay. And the other thing you should know Romain is that

1:03:51 I was pushing long before the earthquake when I was working. I was pushing the button long before the earthquake machine actually was connected to the button but then I pushed it and then it went off. And therefore the United Nations for dual citizenship for members of the. Oh dual citizenship how convenient. Are you with me John? Well isn't he still a citizen? No but the whole problem is that because he has not lived there, I mean along with the dual citizenship comes the whole possibility for him to come back in. What do you think the chances are we can get a dual citizenship with Haiti? You and me. Americans cannot have a dual citizenship anymore. No, that's bullshit. That ended 25 years ago. You cannot. Go ahead and try it. Look it up. I know three people with dual citizenship. Go ahead. I've looked at it, you know, and I actually called the State Department. You know what they said to me?

1:04:46 What, in 1980? No, in 99. You can get dual citizenships in this country. In fact, there's a whole web, there's websites loaded with how to do it and where to do it and how you can get one and how much you have to pay for it. It's been, that's over. Okay. You're living in the past. I'm gonna get me a dual citizenship to Haiti then. We're both doing that, John. We're gonna go run that bitch. We can do it. We can rent a hotel. Yeah. And they aren't allowed to have dual citizenship. They can't now, but under the Haitian constitution, two successive parliaments have to vote for it.

1:05:25 Very important. So they've already had one now they get the second one then they then they assassinate him and then Wyclef can come in. This is Parliament, the one that's going out of existence because we've got elections coming up. They have to go through all this work to get that guy in. Just put him in. Well you know they've been trying to do this for years and years and years and they've never really successfully done it under international law. It's almost over, 30 seconds. So as soon as these elections are held, when the next parliament convenes, it's going to be my first priority with them to ask them to vote to grant dual citizenship because there's an enormous interest among Haitians in the United States and Canada and France and elsewhere in coming back home, investing, participating in the future. Yes, there you go. So it's total set up. You can wait for it. These things always take time though.

1:06:16 They always take a little bit of time, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. I think they're making it too complicated. Well, but Clinton and Bush, they all were trying for so many years, you know, and they've taken guys out, they've threatened guys, they've thrown them in the middle of Africa, and it's never quite worked, you know. It's very close to the Western world, this Haiti place. So, you know, it is too much scrutiny and they want, they need to set it up in a legal way and with illegal means. And I think that's what's taking place right now. You watch. You sound like my dad who listens. Ah, you theories. It's too complicated. That's not how it works. It's too complicated. Why don't they just shoot somebody in the head and put the other guy in? What? It's a one-step process.

1:07:00 Yeah, but they've already tried that a million times. They shoot the guy and they get him out. I'm not going to argue the point. You're right, because they keep trying to put their stooges in and then when they get them in, they either get rousted by the public or hung or run out of town. Right. Because the Haitians, you know, they don't take no crap from nobody. He said now, you know, now they're not stupid, they're highly educated in fact. Yeah but what would prevent Wycliffe John from just running and winning? I mean it's because they rejected his bid because of his citizenship status so they need to change that so they've already had one parliament now the second parliament comes in they vote for the change and then all of a sudden it's like oh I'm sorry the government has fallen let's do another election and in comes Wycliffe.

1:07:43 They gotta do it this way. That's why Billy Boy is holding back all the money. We'll see. We'll be watching. It's gonna happen within the next year. You would hope. I would hope. Cause otherwise, well, you know. Probably better off without a government in that place. Alright, here we go. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda. In the morning. Before we get started with our list of donors, John, I got a note from Greg Noblin. Says, guys, my girlfriend is not bipolar but has had a lifetime of sleeplessness. We've been together for almost six years and she's been on Seroquel ever since I've known her. This is the same drug as Amplify that we talked about on Thursday. Ambilify. Ambilify, right.

1:08:40 I never really looked up the drug as I always thought it was for sleep issues. I thought it was a sleep aid at the very most. So you guys go over this and I'm blown away with the similarities to the side effects she experiences. When she sleeps she twitches a lot. She always has stiff muscles and aches and some dizziness and some minor motor skills that aren't much more than a normal person other than she trips over stuff more often than anyone else I know. Fuck this, I'm donating. I can't do much right now as I'm fresh out of college after a career change. But it's a little for everything you two do so you can de-douche this ass hat. You've been de-douched.

1:09:22 Your show is truly a service in the morning. And he wants me to plug his site as well, gregnoblinblog.squarespace.com. I sent him a note back and said, dude, just get your girlfriend off this crap. He says, yeah, they're definitely working on that. and i have a once you realize is it's a probably for bipolar disorder given to us is a lot of extremely powerful drugs for like bipolar disorder if you give them to just the general public they probably do you know various things to you that are that are saleable well i was going to wait for this but let me just read this anonymous hey john and adam i'm a nurse working in a psychiatric hospital for the past six years i was listening to your show on sunday wanted to share with

1:10:03 in regards to the Abilify and Seroquel ads you played. It is very common to see a psych patient on Seroquel, Abilify, Ambien or some other sleep medication and Prozac or Effexor all at the same time. Wow. The amount of medic... Wow. Yeah, it gets better. The amount of medications these doctors prescribe is ridiculous at times. I often see patients come into the hospital with one or two medications and leave with five to seven new medications on average. Also, these ads make people look like normal people taking those meds, especially with Abilify. Have you ever seen what someone who has been taking Abilify for a long period of time looks like? I'm talking years here. Of all the patients who have been taking Abilify for a long period of time or high doses, I've noticed they all got one thing in common. They all look fucked up.

1:10:47 This is a nurse talking. They got this bulging eye look, many are overweight and got this crazy look to them. Think of the crazy fat old neurotic lady at the grocery store. The best I can explain is they got this spent, used or burnt out look about them. It's so bad when patients get admitted, I try to guess if they are on Abilify or Seroquel, I found that I'm correct usually about 90% of the time. The most jacked up people I've seen are usually on Abilify, high doses of Seroquel and Xanax. Bye darling, I love you. who have all come and gone have all complained of a very common side effect of Seroquel. This is a side effect by the way not mentioned in the ads, John. They have a hard time getting it up or simply cannot get it up at all and the lucky ones can get it up but cannot finish. Often they will pass up on their morning dose of Seroquel so they can be able to rub one out then afterwards they take their dose as sex is not permitted in the hospital. And the most common drugs Marines are on is this, in order

1:11:52 You want to write this down John break prays osin abilify siriquel effects or treza done ambien and Claritin I think something happens to these Marines after they've come back from Iraq as a lot of them suffer from allergies and sinus problems explaining the high amount of Claritin prescribed. Oh, and don't think these Marines are on just one of those drug mentions. It's very common they are prescribed all of them, bye darling, at the same time. Sometimes with other medications included or changed. That's just a report from a hospital I work at and what I've seen. Thought you guys might find that interesting. Have a good day.

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1:20:41 That's why I'm drinking it now. Like this has got to be the right beer. This is good. So, um, I have to disappoint, uh, the plethora of people who... said, oh look, Reuters reports! US nuclear weapons have been compromised by unidentified aerial objects. Okay, so let's have a little lesson in how Reuters works. This is not Reuters the news agency. This is Reuters the PR news wire. Okay, it says it right there, PR news wire. This is to promote a book. Now I'm not saying I disagree with the concept that UFOs have disabled our nuclear armament.

1:21:21 But the book is called UFOs and Nukes Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapon Sites written by F.E. Warren No, I'm sorry. Written by, what is this guy's name? Robert Hastings. And this is about an event where he's going to be promoting the book. So when you read Reuters don't get all excited that all of a sudden it's mainstream news and that it's true. I mean it may be true but it's, this is an exercise in Great marketing bring you into buying a book an $80 book no less. Whoa. Yeah, we're in the wrong business I don't think so. We got a right $80 books So yeah as much as I wish something like that it would be true. It's really not I have a little clip here Johnny boy About get more nation jewelry about the by corporation which this is actually a clip from two months ago

1:22:23 They opened up a center in Pennsylvania and of course what we've been talking about is the proliferation of bracelets, armbands, all kinds of different things that will enslave you very much like slaves. with shackles, except these are electronic versions of shackles, and they're used to essentially make the racket of enslaving people and prisoners more profitable. Because what's more profitable than charging someone to enslave them, which by the way, not only do they get some government money, but the slave also has to pay for it, which is great, great model, and you don't have to go through the hassle of feeding the slaves, which is fantastic.

1:23:08 So the BI Corporation celebrated the opening of a new center in Pennsylvania just about six weeks ago. John, I'd like you to share in these celebrations. Are you ready for this? Sure. This is Newswatch 16 at 5.30. A new facility was unveiled today in Luzerne County and county leaders say that new day reporting center will help ease jail overcrowding. Newswatch 16's Sarah Banowski live in the newsroom to explain. Sarah. Well Norm, starting today people considered low-level criminals have another option other than lockup. They can now report to the BI Incorporated Center in Wilkes-Barre. Report to the center, slave, you low-level criminal!

1:23:47 Wait until you hear what the low-level criminals are. It's really funny. Oh yes, they've got blue and white balloons on the wall. Yes, oh it's open! They've snipped the ribbon to the new slave center! This is the new Dave Reporting Center for Luzerne County run by a company called BI Incorporated. Soon up to 150 clients as they're called will be... Clients! John, I'm a client of BI Incorporated. Are you a client? I'm not only a member. Can you put that on your resume? Yes, you can. It's an official IMDB credit. I'm a client of BI Incorporated. ...able to get treatment and training programs here. The clients are non-violent criminals who are referred by either court, jail, or probation officials. When they first start, they check in six days a week. They have to report six days a week.

1:24:36 and as they progress successfully through the program, the number of reporting days reduces. This is Luzerne County's solution for jail overcrowding. Right now there are about 750 inmates at the county correctional facility and no money to build a new one. We have no money to build a new one. It's not a profitable business. Yeah, right. If we can reduce the enrollment in the prison, that will certainly help us. I love enrollment. It's like school. Enrollment in the prison. These guys are amazing! I can't believe these news readers can live with themselves, making these sorts of reports without question. They're MKUltra'd, man. They don't care. They're on board. They're taking the drugs. No, they're stupid. That's the real problem. That will certainly help us.

1:25:21 limp along until we have the means to build a new prison. County officials say they're not sure how much the Day Reporting Center will save the county. They hope to have a better idea in about... It's all about saving your tax dollars. They should have all this stuff in a spreadsheet. already worked out they should know exactly how much it's going to save the county. It's bull crap. Wait, it gets better. I want you to hear about- It can't get better. Yes it can get better. I want you to hear the low level criminal that they slapped a bracelet on. It's coming up. But for now they're happy to have this solution to keep some people out of cells. For example I had a 92 year old inmate who served three days because he took out the coupons out of a newspaper in a convenient mart next to the hotel he was living in.

1:26:05 You stole coupons! You must go into jail! What? He stole- 92 year old guy- A 92 year old man took a coupon from what, a shopper that was in a news- Yes! Yes! What? You can play that again. He got three days! Took out the coupons out of a newspaper in a convenient mart next to the hotel he was living in. That cost me $90 a day to incarcerate that guy, plus all the time and wear on staff for something that could have been taken care of rather smoothly. I'm gonna commit harakiri right now. Can you believe that?

1:26:46 Did whatever happened to actually policing and going up say hey old man stop doing that okay? I mean that would work to 92 year old the guy's just trying to get some cute walk. He just needs to eat Let me get this coupon. Oh, it says I didn't know but you know if I days in jail $90 a day man. We could have slapped the bracelet on that mofo. I would have been much cheaper much better more better more better more better Now prison officials insist the Day Reporting Center is not about being soft on crime. They say it's about helping low-level criminals change their lives and stop getting in trouble. So let's put one of these on Timothy Geithner for lying about his taxes. Let's throw one of these bracelets on him. Unbelievable. It's not about being soft on crime. They don't think that a 90 year old man getting, what, getting, oh he only got three days. We should have thrown the book at him.

1:27:44 This is how pathetic, you know we had a thing on the blog, Dvorak.org slash blog that was a, about this cop in Orlando, some 85 year old drunk, they brought, you know, he's having his car towed and he comes wandering out saying, hey you can't tow my car, you know, I'm legally parked. And it probably was, I looked at, they showed a picture of the area that seemed like, I don't know how can you tow a car from there. But anyway, so the cop says, go away slave, shut up. and so the old man apparently touches he pushes he's about to fall over so he's got his two hands up then he catches I guess he pushes the touches the cop on the top of his shoulders and they tase him

1:28:21 stop touching me or anything like that he flips the guy over drops him on his head breaks his neck. Oh no! So anyway so the guy's gonna die probably nobody says anything about it so that I read the comments I'm always fascinated by the comments to these kinds of stories which are disgusting stories police you know they're just completely out of control in some areas and nobody seems to give a crap And this goes, well they shouldn't have touched the cop. And you know all these people that make excuses for this old man having his neck broken for doing relatively nothing. And you know, what is the cop afraid of an 82 year old guy? Oh this old man's gonna kick my ass. I mean the whole thing is ridiculous and the public is completely shot on this. I mean it's hopeless.

1:29:07 Hopeless. We haven't got a prayer. We're just doing this show, as a matter of fact, as a futile effort. It's just like, it really is. And now they're showing off flying the Blackhawks over the house. I mean, it's so obvious. Shut up, Slave Curry. Just so you know we're here. It's not for your benefit. It's to show the public, the huge, massive number of people down below, that the Blackhawks could be there in a moment. Any second now, it can nuke your ass. Because if they knew you were there, they would have already shot your shot stick in the ground. No, no, no, no, no, no, they won't do that. That's just one blast in the front. Just an accidental one bullet. Take out all those windows you got. It would cost you a fortune to fix them. No, no, no. UFOs exist. They're real. UFOs exist. They're real. UFOs are great. Aliens are coming. We're going to be saved October 13th. See when I... Now I'm safe. Oh, he's just a crackpot. He'd hit no mind. October 13th. Hey, we got some real corruption going on in the... in California.

1:30:05 John, I'm sure you've been following this. That's stunning. Corruption in California. Hold on. This was the, what is it, Bell County, I think? Did you follow this story at all? Oh, we followed from the beginning. I was going to bring it up on the show. It seemed like a localized thing, but it's typical of what's going on. There's a couple guys, the city manager of Bell... I got a clip if you want, maybe that's a little more fun to listen to the explanation. Well, play that, I think my background would probably be better than the clip. Somehow I don't doubt that at all. Taxpayer outrage and one answer. Police in Bell, California fanned out today arresting the mayor and seven other city officials charged with bilking struggling taxpayers. Salaries in the stratosphere.

1:30:47 It started with anger and now criminal charges. Here's Michael and friend. A raucous crowd gathered outside City Hall as word spread that officials were being rounded up and arrested. One even had his door broken down by a police battering ram. They used the tax dollars collected from the hard-working citizens of Bell as their own piggy bank, which they then looted at will. Former city manager Robert Rizzo made nearly $800,000 a year, almost twice what the president makes. We are struggling with five dollar a month donations. Douchebags are making 800 grand a year. Nice. City council members were paid nearly eight thousand dollars a month for attending meetings that either never took place or lasted only minutes. That's my kind of meeting by the way. Oh yeah, I think they're onto something here. That's great, now I've got respect for these guys. The district attorney said that is fraud.

1:31:45 Corruption on steroids. The 40,000 residents of Bell had been paying enormous property taxes and sewer fees. And today we're thrilled to see those in charge thrown in jail. I'm ecstatic. I'm glad it's about time they caught them. They were not arrested for simply making enormous amounts of money. Getting paid a zillion dollars. a year is not illegal in the state of California unless you do it by illicit and illegal means. Officials say private citizens need to do a better job of being their own watchdogs. These officials thought they could get away with it and they did get away with it for a number of years and now finally people are looking at it and saying enough is enough. The district attorney says the eight arrested today face significant jail sentences. This is the biggest corruption scandal

1:32:31 to be prosecuted in California in three decades. What do they get the battering ram for? This is a showcase arrest because people are so pissed off about what happened that they had to do something. These guys aren't going to spend one day, I'll predict this, put it on the list of predictions, these guys aren't going to spend one day in jail. Here's the way this deal worked to begin with. The guy Rizzo, who looks like a guy named Rizzo if you know what I'm saying, got into the city management business and he found a loophole in the California retirement system. And it wasn't that they were paying themselves all this kind of money. It was a retirement fund?

1:33:22 The idea that what he discovered was the following in California, and they have not corrected this by the way, and this is what this is really all about. This guy Rizzo and his buddy who is the head of the police department, then they did essentially up the ante on what the city council was getting for their meetings to the point where he could give himself, his buddy, and some other people I guess these extremely high salaries. Because in and and the police chief is the best example of this the police chiefs only been working in Bell for a year Or two as far as I remember, but the point is is that in California your retirement? Benefits are based on the last salary you had So that's an interesting and and and

1:34:07 If you worked in one place for 20 years and another place in 10 years and one place for one year, you were proportionately responsible for that big payment at the end in terms of retirement. In other words, if I made $100,000, say I made $10,000 a year working in Los Angeles County for 20 years and then I made $200,000 a year for one day at Bell County and Bell, the city of Bell, and then I retired. LA has to pick up the retirement. So in other words, so this guy, I thought the guy was a genius because he found out that if you could get him just rack your salary up for the, just before you retire, push it up to 900,000, you will get something like $850,000 a year for the rest of your life that your city isn't really paying for. It's these other boneheads who had you working for 4,000 a year. This is great. So John, can't we get,

1:35:02 some of our listeners somewhere, I'm sure someone at Goldman Sachs is listening, they can put us on the payroll for a million dollars for like a week, right? And then we, well you can retire, no yeah, neither of us can retire, can we? Well we could shortly. Speak for yourself. I don't think it works anyplace but in California, but whatever the case, that is the basis for the scam. From what I can tell and I've looked into this, I don't think these guys actually did anything wrong except pay themselves too much money. But I don't know where this where's the corruption right so this is just to keep the slaves happy

1:35:38 This is a showcase, this is just a theater. That's why they do the whole battering ram. Don't worry, everything's fine now. We got a... We rammed... Wait a minute, look, we're gonna ram down his door with a battery. We got him, we got him now! Mission accomplished. So they'll get off scot-free. Nice. Bullcrap. They'll be living in Paraguay with Ken Lay and Bernie Madoff. This will be swept under the rug and that'll be the end of it. Great. Or if they, you know, they may be able to find some way of getting him a little prison time, like a few days. But I don't think it's going to, I'm not sure. Somebody has to give me some more on California law on this. But I'm not sure that even if you're a convicted felon that you don't collect on your retirement. Right on.

1:36:20 I'll go shut down this phone while you continue. Okay, so I will bring up an article that I'd like everyone to read and you know, I read these things so you don't have to. This is HR 3534, better known as the CLEAR Act. This is thinly disguised as a roadblock to American energy which drives American companies out of the Gulf. But what it really is, is handing over our water to the United Nations. We talked about this probably about a year ago where the United Nations... We talk about this every so often. Yeah. But so now, and it looks like this is a slam dunk, it has to go through the Senate now, but this is H.R. 3534, where all water rights are essentially handed over to the United Nations.

1:37:11 So wait a minute, let me get this straight. You're telling me that as a sovereign nation, the United States of America, we're handing our water to an international body for them to control? Yes. Why don't we just give them the whole country? Like we haven't? Please. Well who's the sponsor of this bill? There'll be some Republican and some... Boehner. John Boehner. John Boehner? Uh-huh. The head of the Senate?

1:37:48 The Republican head of the Senate John Boehner, Boner as we like to call him? Hold on, let me look at the bill. It's a house bill. No, that can't be right. Hold on. No, I'm sorry. It's Nick Rahal, Democrat. Who the hell is Nick Rahal? I don't know. From West Virginia. R-A-H-A-L-L. Nick Rahal born 1949 American politician been a Democrat member of the so the Democrats are giving the United Nations the country I'm looking at him looks like a drunk He does look like a drunk he's got that goofy big red nose like Clinton wait a minute I have a there's a video of it here. Oh, this is cool on the floor Well this may not be what is this? No no he is a drunk. It's a committee on natural resources from Raleigh County, West Virginia

1:38:42 Subcommittee on aviation subcommittees on highways and transit. Yeah screw him this guy should be voted out He should be recalled you can't do this So I've put some background information in the show notes the law of the sea treaty, which is the United Nations Treaty that we've discussed previously and so all oceans and coasts and pretty much all other water will now be under control of the United Nations and And of course that enables the total control of deep water drilling, but also you know like control of what is it? Oh yeah, our water. It's the water we drink. Yeah, our water. The key to success here, analyzing this guy, you know we said he looks like a drunk, occupation broadcast executive. He's a suit. Yeah, totally. He's a suit. He's great.

1:39:32 He's great. Hey man, you got a whole bunch of clips. Anything interesting we should hit? You know, the clips are pretty mediocre today, but let me go back and... You made me go off my page. I got a funny one though. I got a funny one about Louisiana and dead fish. Have you seen those pictures? It looks like an asphalt road, but it's actually a waterway with dead fish. This report is hilarious though, because they can't figure out what killed the fish in the Gulf Coast. Huh. What could have killed the fish? I have no idea. Concerns are mounting tonight in Plaquemines Parish where officials are becoming increasingly worried about sea life kills in waters previously impacted. This is an interesting new term though. A kill. It's a fish kill. So it's not like they're not saying a pool of dead fish. No, it's a fish kill. That term's been around for a while. Doesn't that imply that someone went out and killed the fish?

1:40:30 No, sometimes it's referred to as a natural phenomenon. You have a kill. I've never heard this. I never heard this. There were two major fish kills last week and yesterday a dead whale was discovered and brought in for testing. So what's causing the die-off? Maya Rodriguez has that story. I have no idea what could be causing dead fish off the Gulf. John, I can't remember because I'm too occupied with Chase. I can't remember. What's the kill off? It's been a rough summer in some of the waters around Plaquemines Parish. First hit by the oil spill. Now hit with fish kills. They're not related, of course. This is an extremely large fish kill and there's many species in there. It's not just one.

1:41:17 No, this is a fat guy. I'm just saying, go on. This is a fat guy. A group of fish, there's redfish and trout and flounder. All species have been identified in this fish kill. Plaquemines Parish officials spotted this massive fish kill on Friday. Hundreds of thousands of dead fish just west of the Mississippi in Bayou Cheland. It came several days after the discovery of a starfish kill in nearby Barataria Bay. And then on Monday, they found this. A dead baby whale. It's a fish fail, I tell you. Whether any of those incidents are related to the oil spill, though, remains a big question.

1:41:54 It's a big question if it's related to the oil spill. I guess unless the fish washes up on shore and says, the oil is killing me. How about the Corexit? Do you think that that has anything to do with it? That could have something to do with it. So what they actually will say is it's oxygen depletion. They couldn't breathe. Yeah, that's the big thing now is we got oxygen depletion up in the Hood Canal. Yeah. We couldn't breathe. couldn't breathe. The thing that local officials say could lead to some answers is more testing. We're talking about the long-term testing of the quality of the water, the fish and the environment. And we don't see a collective group really wanting to know what's going on and we need to demand that happens. The State Department of Wildlife and Fisheries sent biologists to Friday's fish kill to try and determine what may have caused it.

1:42:39 it just goes on and on i can play anymore is i don't think you should they can't figure it out that john i and it's a mystery it's totally baffling stuff what could be killing the damage to three shots to the head suicide so uh... so i got a t at tape i've been mentioning this on the day on the devore corowitz uh... the age unplugged show about this guy that you brought up goals b all the uh... the new uh... economic dude Yeah, Goolsby. Who's replacing Christie. Because you just played a bunch of goofy voices. I have to play this clip because I have a clip of Goolsby on the Ed show which is one of the worst pieces of crap on the air. Isn't that scripted? Angry Democrat. Yeah. Who screams at everybody. Wait, Goolsby's on? These Republicans are horrible. Wait, Goolsby's on the show? He's on the show. Apparently, if you listen to him, he's been on the show a lot. And him and Ed are

1:43:33 They are good buddies, but they go talking, hey Ed, how you doing, let's go have a drink. I mentioned this on the Horrible Show, but I want to play it for people out there who are actually, who have listened to Monday Night Football or Sunday Night Football where John Gruden actually speaks. He used to be a coach, he's a football coach. Goolsby sounds just like him. I'll do a side-by-side, but listen to this repartee between Goolsby and Ed. middle class. I mean, this is the soft underbelly politically for the Republicans, no doubt about it. They're not doing anything for the middle class and they haven't. But what is 30, tell our audience tonight, what is $30 billion in lending going to do for this economy? What are your expectations? Well, I think, I think he can do two things that are that are important. One, you should be proud, Ed, this is kind of the son of the old Ed. I'm telling you, Shaq is great for this team. He's fantastic. Plan. You know, I told you to

1:44:29 it's great is back in the end of the day and i think you're at in washington said what you have to get money to small businesses yeah i'm not you know i'm i'm glad as you know as you know small business is more dependent on bank credit than any other kind of business no doubt large business a go to capital markets and anybody who's been dependent on banks has really been suffering but what is the credit crunch you know we don't know if i should about it i don't want to expand the the correct What a couple of dingbats. Oh my goodness. What jabronis? So but this this this guy this this Goolsby doesn't look big enough to have that booming voice. He looks like a little twerp. It's just that you right yeah. Hey that's a good that's the word of the day twerp. Twerp. Do you remember that word? Oh yeah. My parents used to use that word.

1:45:21 Twerp is a good word. It's a good word. It's a guy's a twerp. I think twerp should now replace jabroni. It's t-w-e-r-p, twerp. What is the etymology of twerp? I don't know. That'd take a little work. Take an Oxford English Dictionary. Noagenderwordoftheday.com will share twerp. So this is the guy that replaced Christie Romer. And this is another guy. I hate this guy too. He's never had a day of real life experience in his life. Right, never worked for a living. Another academic who's now gonna fix it. Oh by the way, we had another 450,000 jobs lost. Whoops! Just came out today. Yeah, oh yeah. And it was like 12,000 more than expected or whatever.

1:46:07 You know, which of course is slamming Obama even more, but let me... I should have brought this clip up earlier when we went through your Obama deconstruction of Hillary running for office. Because I think actually now I think about it, this ran on Fox. And I was going to use it on the last show, but I didn't. But it was just a slam of the Obama administration in a very humorous way, I thought. But it was done on one of the regular news shows, Brett Beier or whoever it is. They have this real, kind of a standardized news show. And there was a rundown of all the money and where it went and how many jobs it created in reality. And it's pretty funny. It's called the Money and Jobs Clip.

1:46:46 Oh, hold on a second, it misfired. I already had it up and it misfired. I'm so sorry. York Harbor, $32 million for electric vehicles made in Kansas City where the president visited back in July. And $13.7 million used to upgrade Grand Canyon Park. But in Los Angeles, an audit by the city controller reveals $111 million in stimulus spending has only created about 55 jobs so far. The audit reveals the city's Department of Public Works has received $70.65 million and created or retained 45 and a half jobs. The city's Department of Transportation

1:47:23 has been awarded $40.8 million and created or retained nine jobs. With unemployment in LA at 12%, the comptroller says the city must do a better job of cutting red tape. One problem was the delay in getting these dollars out. The jobs that we wanted to see created weren't created as quickly as we would like. And additionally, the other major problem was ensuring that the money was separated. We were using it properly under the federal guidelines. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. We got jobs, jobs, jobs everywhere. So what, with 40 million they got nine jobs? Why don't you just give the public the money?

1:48:18 It's unbelievable. You know, cis-admins of the world, it's time to propagate the virus. It's time to let the demon in and bring down everything. Come on, cis-admins. Time to get that mesh network together. What was the name of that damn virus? The Stuck-on-You virus. Stuck-on-You. That was the name of the virus, man. Hey, I wanted to go off topic for a second. Stuxnet. Yeah. Off topic. I've been harping on this for years and years. I wrote about it in Market Watch. You can check it out. Go look up Dvorak columns and read about Sarbanes-Oxley.

1:48:54 I have the Home Depot CEO, the guy who founded the Home Depot on one of the stations, I think it was CNBC, or with Cavuto or somebody. And I want you to listen carefully to what he has to say about growing business in this country which is stagnant. Ever since the day that Sarbanes-Oxley was passed, we have gone into the tank and we're stuck there. future, what you to do for someone else to do? Neil, I'm going to write a book. I'm really thinking about writing a book and that's the story of Home Depot in a different kind of context. If we started the Home Depot today in 2010 as opposed to 1978,

1:49:37 We could never ever achieve what we did. You couldn't do it. In 1978, in the early 80s, we didn't have the regulations. We didn't have the trial laws, the power of the trial laws. It started when Jimmy Carter was president. We didn't have Sir Baines Oxley. Sir Baines Oxley is the killer of all times for companies. Remember, the Home Depot started. This started because we had four stores. We did $25 million in volume. That was nothing. $25 million. We went public at $25 million with no history, with a very small history. If we could not go public today, we couldn't. Just the accounting fees and the lawyer fees would be $2-3 million. It's impossible to raise capital.

1:50:22 Capital, the capital market is what grew the Home Depot. We were able to go to the capital, we opened four more stores. We went back to the market, we opened four more stores. We kept going back to the market and as they... So what I like about this is that Sarbanes-Oxley was implemented under Clinton if I'm not mistaken. Nope, Bush. Really? There's the Bush to protect all his accounting company buddies. Oh right right right right, right? This came after Enron and some other bullcrap went down in MCI. Yeah, good job. Good job! No, it's essentially sunk in. Nobody wants to talk about Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody wants to talk about this because you can just see it on the charts. Ever since Sarbanes-Oxley, there's been no IPOs. There was one, but there was all these huge companies. Oh no, General Motors.

1:51:21 Well, General Motors is such a huge company they can afford to go public. Right. You can't, but he's talking about like you can't bring out a ten million dollar company. You can't go public with a twenty five million dollar company. I was told by one of, Tim Draper over at Draper Fisher. Who's kind of wacky. He was a wacky guy but he's not a dummy. No. He says they've done the calculations you can't go public. You can't go public. And make it worthwhile unless you're doing four hundred and forty four million dollars a year. Well, they basically killed the market for small companies. So the economy's in the tank because of this and nobody's paying any attention to it except one or two guys. I'm done when I, you know, I kind of, you know, got excited when this guy brought it up, which... Yeah, because I heard the conversation on Twit, I believe.

1:52:06 And no one on the panel understood what you were talking about, which was kind of disappointing. And in fact they were mocking you a little bit. Yeah, you know, they're all Boba, you're crazy. And what's even funnier is that they're like, oh that's another curry thing. It's like you get blamed for my shit when you're actually talking sense. Yeah, well that's the irony of life. It's kind of sad. It's funny because I was looking at a company, this is the Aqua Bounty Company. Aqua Bounty is the company that is producing these genetically modified salmon which eat half as much and grow twice as big and are healthy to eat. And they went public for $28 million. So how did they do it? Their revenues are $28 million? No, no, they raised $28 million which is nothing. That's nothing. That's a minor, minor, minor, mini, minor IPO.

1:53:07 That's a small company. How the hell did they do it? There's probably some back story that we could probably look into that instead of having to deal with all the expense of being a public company at a low level of sales. You don't think maybe they have some backing from their friends at San Antonio? Yeah, obviously. Do you want to just hear that clip for a second of the salmon? over there or that bogey aqua bounty technologies for bounty great name and this is a Russia today clip which is screw Russia today they're just there the biggest shills ever they don't even list the guy's name is like

1:53:45 Genetically engineered, by the way it's now GE, it's not GM, it's GE. This is a new thing, an interesting change in name. Ooh, I didn't catch that. It's nice, right? It's genetically engineered food. And so they have one of these shills for aqua bounty talking and his chiron, his lower third, his title is genetically engineered salmon supporter. And then they've got some woman who looks like a crazy freak and she's against it and she's genetically engineered salmon opposer. That's the way you do it. You get the weirdest looking ones that take the side that you don't want. Alright, listen to the report. You'll hate this. Salmon. It's popular with diners the world over and increasingly it's in danger of becoming fished to extinction.

1:54:28 A company from the American state of Massachusetts says it's turning to science to keep salmon stocks plentiful. Why can't they just say Aqua Bounty? Why is it American company from the state of Massachusetts? I hate you Russia today, you're ministry of truth. Namely, by using genetic engineering. You can feed less to the fish and you can still produce the protein that makes a very healthy product for the population to be consuming. The process is twofold. First, a gene from another fish is inserted in the salmon to induce it to grow year-round.

1:55:05 Then the salmon is given a dose of growth hormone. Yay! The result? Bigger fish, ready for market in half the time. Half the food? Wait a minute. Twice as big? I thought they genetically engineered the fish to be bigger. They know they jolted it with growth hormone, which gets into the general public, because you eat this crap, you eat the growth hormone, and it screws you up. It's good for you, John. Shut up, slave. 17 months instead of 30. Imagine your kid being full grown at 10. Take that parallel for a second. The US Food and Drug Administration said the GE salmon doesn't pose any reasonable risk to people who eat it. Hey, it's good for you. That's our Food and Drug Administration saying it's not a problem. Not a problem. Not a problem. Critics have lined up in hopes of blocking its sale to the public. They had a chance on Monday to tell their side to federal regulators.

1:56:05 Oops. who only talks about allergic reactions not about messing up the genetic code of our DNA and she's got the glasses on, she's got the stupid hair. She might even be an actress because she uses the term GE right off the bat which is like you just pointed out is a new word, new term. Oh let's roll that back, good catch John. The actions that people may have to this fish and many other GE foods

1:56:54 have caused severe allergic reactions. The critics other fear that one of these modified fish will escape into the wild and either crowd out or breed with non-modified salmon. The company says escape is unlikely and that its fish will be sterile. These fish will not escape. We have the tracking devices on them they will not escape they cannot fuck other fish this will not happen the critics have another fear that a decision to allow salmon sales will lead one day to the sale of genetically engineered beef and pork and there's nothing in US law requiring those products to be labeled as such already some consumers say they will

1:57:41 won't knowingly eat modified foods. That presents another problem for a company that's been working on this for nearly two decades and believes there's big money in big salmon. But we're not going to mention the name of that company because we are Russia today. However, on no agenda, we mentioned the name of the company. Rosalind Jordan. So they've been working on it for two decades. So how long did it take them to figure out if you shoot some growth hormone into the fish that it bulks up? Two decades, it took you that long? But more important... By the way, I want to mention a little side story. So the Weimer Reiner dog was bred by a German breeder as a super dog. Best nose, best this, best that, and it was all, you had to buy a license to buy the dog, and they were all, there was no way it was going to get into the wild because it was going to cost this guy a lot of money, so they had all the dogs neutered. And so the dog never could, you know, just be, you had to buy it from the Weimer Reiner company.

1:58:42 So of course somebody busted into the place and stole a couple of Weimer Reiners and then they bred them and then they're all over the place. That's the end of the story. That's how safe this idea is. Oh don't worry, they're never gonna get out into the wild. That fish can't, salmon can't jump can they? They can't jump over barriers. It's what they do! They swim upstream! Who knows what a big fat one could do? He could probably get 30 feet in the air. These fish are amazing! They swim upstream! Oh, they'll never escape. We've got them contained and confined. They'll never escape, damn it. Anyway, the whole point of this story is not to scare you about genetically engineered products. It's to show you how the media is infiltrated and propagating bull crap on you 24 hours a day. You know, at this point you might as well watch the Kardashians. It's less harmful.

1:59:31 It really is. It's less harmful than this other crap. That's one of the reasons I'm watching all these shows though. I'm watching for the propaganda. And by the way, there is some floating. I haven't caught it all yet because apparently every season, I think every season is almost like the way I write columns. I kind of dream up themes for the year and I try to revisit them on and off again. And this year I think the theme is going to be based on the only show that's worth a crap that seems to be on network TV in terms of popular and not annoying, which is NCIS. And NCIS's theme in the first show right off the bat is the corruption of the Mexican government. Ooh, nice. Do you think they're corrupt? I think Mexico is just basically a corrupt state. Really?

2:00:18 You know, in every way, so uh... There were some good memes in Family Guy. I caught a rerun the other day. There's one of our older memes in there. No, no, no! He ran a good campaign, but the people of America have spoken and they're saying they want four more years of douchebag! Douchebag! Douchebag! Douchebag! Douchebag! I love that family guy. Yeah, that's about it. So we have our piece of propaganda we were gonna run on the last show, we might as well run it this time I think. As an end of show clip? Which is the Drug Survey 2010. What's happening in the world of drugs, Adam? I don't know, John! What's going on? Let's find out what's happening in the world of drugs with the Drug Survey 2010 brought to you by No Agenda and by Monsanto. Dead.

2:01:07 For nearly 40 years, the federal government has asked people in every state if and how much they use illegal drugs. Well this year, the National Survey on Drug Use and Health isn't the worst researchers have seen, but it is worse than last year. CNN's Gene Meserve reports that drug use is up. Illegal drug use is higher than it has been in a decade. According to a new government survey, usage among Americans 12 and over rose from 8% in 2008 to 8.7% in 2009, with an upswing in the use of ecstasy, methamphetamines, and particularly marijuana.

2:01:47 Among teenagers, marijuana use jumped from 6.7% in 2008 to 7.3% in 2009, though it is still less than it was in 2002. Young, heavy marijuana users are much more likely to report getting D's and F's than A's and B's. Are more likely to be in trouble with the law for crimes like theft. The survey shows a change in teens attitudes towards using marijuana. Marijuana has a very low risk compared to other things I'd say. Like? Like alcohol for example. The nation's drug czar says fewer teens see marijuana as dangerous because of media coverage of current policy debates. I absolutely cannot rule out that this constant discussion of so-called medical marijuana

2:02:37 marijuana legalization and the downplaying of marijuana harms that is prevalent in the media. With California voting in November on a ballot measure legalizing marijuana, that debate has picked up tempo. Earlier this week, former heads of the Drug Enforcement Administration urged the Obama administration to take a strong stand against the measure. Reporters of legalized marijuana say the new survey numbers illustrate the failure of current government policy criminalizing marijuana. We need a legal regulated marijuana market. And that will lead to less teen use of marijuana? It has for alcohol, it has for tobacco.

2:03:16 In fact, the rate of teen alcohol and tobacco use stayed essentially the same during the past year. Other trends? The abuse of prescription drugs is up, but the use of cocaine has declined 30% since 2006. Oh wow, 30% since 2006? In the 80s and 90s, cocaine was a drug. It was raging, especially on Wall Street when people were doing well. So then what's the reason behind the drop in cocaine use? Could it be money? The economy? Well, at this press conference, officials said what they thought the reason was was education, was simply that people had become more aware of the hazards, particularly of crack cocaine, and that was leading more people to stay away from it.

2:03:55 from it. I found two things in that story that included that. There was zero. Zero about heroin. Zero mention of heroin. I guess there's no problem. And the other thing was they were talking to this drug czar, and he slipped in an interesting little propaganda piece in there. You missed it. Yeah, I missed it. When they're saying, well, you know, it's one of the problems is a lot of publicity over so-called medical marijuana.

2:04:30 Oh, I did miss this. So-called? What the hell was that supposed to mean? I want to say something because I've heard a lot of people talking about something and I don't know a lot about much but I do know a lot about marijuana. I was a decade-long, 20-hour-a-day smoker of marijuana. Sometimes I get up in the middle of the night and take a hit. I'm honest. A decade? For a decade, yeah. More than a decade. Maybe 12 years. And what you hear a lot of people say is, well, you know, marijuana these days, that ain't like what we had in the 60s or 70s. This shit will knock you on the head. This is so strong, this is almost a hard drug. Let me tell you something. Bull crap. Bull crap, bull crap, bull crap.

2:05:10 It's not. It's just not. You got good weed and bad weed. And it's no stronger or less strong. That is not scientifically proven. It's the same process. It's still a weed. Unless it's laced with something, it is just nicer. But it's not like a hard drug all of a sudden. And I hear people, this is a meme that has propagated that has to be stopped. It is absolutely a falsehood. Well, there's more THC per ounce. So you just smoke less? Wait a minute, but let me continue. But the logic would be that you don't use as much and so it's probably a better deal. Yeah, it's a much better deal. And by the way, the more you smoke, the less you need to get high. It's one of those weird things about marijuana. It's like if you smoke a lot, then all of a sudden the effects just don't start to not work that well, no matter how strong the stuff is.

2:06:09 And then if you only take one token, leave it, then you get a lot higher from the weed. And this is just the way it is. I mean, you can think I'm a crazy guy about a lot of things, but I know my weed. Okay? I know my weed. And I've been smoking it up until a year and a half ago. And if it got stronger, so be it. You can only do so much. But it's not going to drive you nuts like Ambilify and all this other crap. And Soquel and all the... What are the shit? That's the bad stuff. Oh, how come they didn't include that in the survey? You were a melloward before. Yeah, I was. No doubt about that. Some say I was more fun to be with. No. Screw them. No? Thank you, John.

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