# Just Hiking > Cyber warfare strikes Iranian nuclear infrastructure while the Clinton Global Initiative faces scrutiny over staged media events and opaque foundation spending in the wake of Haitian reconstruction. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 237 - **Published:** 2010-09-23 - **Length:** 2h 8m - **Topics:** [Stuxnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuxnet.md), [Clinton Foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), Gold prices, Haiti reconstruction, [CLEAR Act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clear-act.md), Seroquel, Staged media - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking ## About this episode The Stuxnet worm has emerged as a military-grade cyber-missile targeting the Bushehr nuclear power plant in Iran, according to security researcher Bruce Schneier. This sophisticated malware, which exploits Siemens Programmable Logic Controllers and Windows print spooler vulnerabilities, coincides with the European Union's push for twelve new internet governance principles in Lithuania. The timing suggests a potential false flag operation designed to justify aggressive global internet regulation and boost the stock of antivirus firms like Symantec. Bill Clinton and the Clinton Global Initiative are under fire for staging YouTube interviews with high production values to simulate grassroots engagement. While the Clinton Foundation delays its 2009 annual report, Bill Clinton and Carlos Slim have established a $20 million loan facility in Haiti that critics argue facilitates the installation of political stooges. Meanwhile, the Obama administration faces a coordinated media assault from Donald Trump and Forbes, as stimulus audits in Los Angeles reveal that $111 million in federal spending produced only 55 jobs. Sir Timothy Kavanaugh and Dame Adriana K. Cain-Couture join the ranks of the No Agenda knighthood as the show's open-source funding model gains traction in Media Spy. Adam Curry reflects on his decade of heavy marijuana use to debunk government claims about modern potency, while John C. Dvorak tracks the rise of gold toward the $1,300 mark. The episode concludes with a warning about the CLEAR Act and its potential to surrender American water rights to the United Nations. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/transcript.md. ### 1. Stonehenge Fencing and Autumnal Equinox Introduction (0:01–1:32) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 237 of the No Agenda show on September 23, 2010. They discuss the recent autumnal equinox and reminisce about a time when visitors could sit on the stones at Stonehenge before fences were installed. The hosts welcome the "human resources" in the chat room and set the stage for the media assassination to follow. Keywords: [stonehenge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stonehenge.md), autumnal equinox, [druids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/druids.md), [hilltop watchtower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hilltop-watchtower.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Gold Price Predictions and Intrinsic Value Debate (1:35–4:02) The hosts review their long-standing prediction that gold would reach $1,300 an ounce, noting it is currently near that mark. While one host predicts gold could reach $5,000 or even $11,000 if the economy collapses, the other argues that gold has no intrinsic value outside of industrial use and dentistry. They briefly compare gold to other historical forms of currency like salt, shells, and seeds. Keywords: [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), commodity prices, intrinsic value, [heirloom seeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heirloom-seeds.md), [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Daniel Suarez Novels, Daemon and Freedom (4:02–6:37) A recommendation is made for two techno-thriller novels by Daniel Suarez titled Daemon and Freedom. The books are described as a modern-day version of Atlas Shrugged, involving a computer virus created by a deceased game developer to take over global corporations. The discussion highlights the concept of "D-space" and augmented reality as depicted in the fiction. Keywords: [daniel suarez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-suarez.md), daemon, [freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom.md), [augmented reality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/augmented-reality.md), [atlas shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Stuxnet Worm and Iranian Nuclear Plant Targets (6:37–8:52) Security researcher Bruce Schneier is cited regarding the discovery of the Stuxnet worm, a sophisticated piece of malware designed to infect industrial control systems. Experts speculate the worm is a military-grade cyber-missile targeted at Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant. The hosts question if the narrative surrounding the virus is being used as a false flag to justify internet regulation. Keywords: [stuxnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuxnet.md), [malware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malware.md), [cyber warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), bushehr nuclear plant [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Internet Governance Principles and Symantec Stock (8:53–13:28) The European Union's presentation of twelve principles for internet governance in Lithuania is linked to the emergence of the Stuxnet threat. Technical details regarding Siemens Programmable Logic Controllers (PLCs) and Windows print spooler vulnerabilities are discussed. The hosts look up Symantec's stock price, noting a slight rise in September possibly linked to the antivirus company's role in identifying the worm. Keywords: [internet governance forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-governance-forum.md), [lithuania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lithuania.md), [symantec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symantec.md), [siemens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siemens.md), [plc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Dame Adriana K. Cain-Couture Knighting and Wedding Anniversary (13:29–16:51) Sir Paul Couture donates to the show to celebrate his wedding anniversary and secure a damehood for his wife, Adriana K. Cain-Couture. The hosts discuss the progress of the 10-10-10 No Agenda coin sales, noting that 472 of 500 have been sold. A lighthearted attempt is made to pronounce Adriana's full American Indian name. Keywords: adriana k. cain-couture, [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), drupal camp, 10-10-10 coin [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Producer Donations, Jill's Health, and Buffalo Furniture (16:52–20:48) Several producers are recognized for their financial support, including Mitch Bidron, who requests "karmic assistance" for his wife Jill, and Larry Lee from Texas. Timothy Kavanaugh completes his installment for knighthood, and Rory Stone of Rapid City is mentioned for his business, Dakota Bison Furniture, which produces handmade buffalo leather iPad cases. Keywords: [mitch bidron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitch-bidron.md), [larry lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-lee.md), timothy kavanaugh, dakota bison furniture, [rapid city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rapid-city.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Media Spy Review and No Agenda Funding Model (20:49–23:02) A positive review of the No Agenda show from MediaSpy.org is read, praising the podcast's "open source media" funding model. The article highlights how the show avoids traditional advertising in favor of listener donations, knighthoods, and merchandise. The reviewer suggests this model represents the future of the media industry in an era of failing paywalls. Keywords: media spy, big dan, open source media, [podcast funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-funding.md), [independent media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/8.md) ### 9. No Agenda Dice, Get Glue Stickers, and Listener Feedback (23:03–27:08) New community initiatives are announced, including custom No Agenda dice and potential digital stickers on the social network Get Glue. The hosts share various listener anecdotes, including a report from "Maynard" in Australia and a story about a listener's mother naming her laundry room "Gitmo Nation Stain Removal." Keywords: [no agenda dice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-dice.md), get glue, [hbo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hbo.md), [showtime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/showtime.md), [maynard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maynard.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Executive Producer Credits and Show Formula (27:10–28:54) The hosts officially credit the executive and associate executive producers for episode 237. They emphasize that unlike Hollywood credits, they are willing to vouch for their producers personally. The segment concludes with a call for listeners to "propagate the formula" of media deconstruction. Keywords: [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), cole candler, rory stone, [media assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassination.md), [propagation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propagation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Fall TV Review, The Chase, and The Event (28:55–31:20) A critique of the 2010 fall television season begins with NBC's "The Chase," which is dismissed as repetitive. The hosts also criticize "The Event" for its confusing non-linear storytelling, noting a trend of using frequent time-jumps (e.g., "five minutes earlier") that they find annoying and unnecessary for narrative progression. Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), the chase, the event, boardwalk empire, [martin scorsese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-scorsese.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Undercover and Hawaii Five-0 Television Critiques (31:19–36:06) The hosts review JJ Abrams' new show "Undercover," describing it as a poorly executed spy drama with dialogue reminiscent of a Jack Nicholson parody. They also express disappointment in the "Hawaii Five-0" reboot, criticizing the excessive use of extreme close-ups and high-drama dialogue. Keywords: [jj abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jj-abrams.md), [undercover](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/undercover.md), [hawaii five-0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii-five-0.md), jack nicholson, [seinfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seinfeld.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Obama Resignation Theory and Forbes Critique (36:07–37:59) A hypothesis is presented suggesting that President Barack Obama may resign to spend more time with his family, clearing the way for Hillary Clinton to take over. This theory is supported by a recent five-page Forbes article that harshly criticizes Obama's performance and portrays him as an anti-business president. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [forbes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forbes.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [resignation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resignation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Donald Trump on Wolf Blitzer and Reagan Comparisons (37:59–42:00) Donald Trump appeared on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to discuss the lack of global respect for the United States under the Obama administration. Trump compares the current situation to the Jimmy Carter era and praises Ronald Reagan's handling of the Iranian hostage crisis. The hosts suggest Trump's appearance is part of a coordinated effort to undermine Obama's presidency. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [jimmy carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-carter.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/14.md) ### 15. CNBC Town Hall Plant and Middle-Class Exhaustion (42:00–44:19) A viral clip from a CNBC town hall features a woman claiming to be "exhausted" from defending President Obama. The hosts argue that the woman was a plant, asserting that participants in presidential forums are strictly vetted and that her "spontaneous" criticism was likely scripted to serve a specific political narrative. Keywords: [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [jeffrey immelt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-immelt.md), [town hall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/town-hall.md), [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md), [vetting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vetting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Clinton Global Initiative and YouTube Interview Staging (44:20–45:36) Bill Clinton's "CGI" (Clinton Global Initiative) event in New York featured interviews with questions submitted via YouTube. The hosts mock the high production quality of the "user-submitted" videos, suggesting they were professionally produced rather than recorded by average citizens. They joke that the acronym CGI appropriately stands for "computer-generated imagery" or faked content. Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [clinton global initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-global-initiative.md), [cgi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cgi.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [high definition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-definition.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Iranian Hostage Negotiations and Hillary Clinton's Role (45:36–50:00) Bill Clinton discusses the detention of American hikers in Iran during his YouTube interview. He suggests that a "high-level representative" may eventually need to travel to Iran to bring the remaining detainees home. The hosts interpret this as a scripted setup for Hillary Clinton to act as a diplomatic hero, mirroring the Reagan-era "October Surprise" playbook. Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), american hikers, [sarah shourd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-shourd.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Iran Economic Relations and Goldman Sachs Offices (50:00–54:23) Citing reports from Max Keiser, the hosts discuss the opening of Goldman Sachs and Citibank offices in Iran. They argue that the threat of war with Iran is effectively over because the country is being integrated into the global banking system. They suggest the "hikers" story is merely a theatrical backdrop for these larger economic shifts. Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [citibank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citibank.md), [max keiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-keiser.md), [economic hitman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-hitman.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Clinton Foundation Transparency and Bono's One Campaign (54:23–58:10) The hosts criticize the Clinton Foundation for failing to release its 2009 annual report, suggesting the numbers are being scrubbed to protect Hillary Clinton's future political prospects. They compare this to Bono's "One" campaign, which reportedly spent more on executive salaries and promotional "freebies" (like Starbucks coffee and Moleskine notebooks) than on actual charitable aid in 2008. Keywords: [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [bono](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bono.md), one campaign, charity overhead, [starbucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starbucks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Wyclef Jean Haiti Presidential Bid and Bill Clinton (58:11–1:02:14) Following the rejection of Wyclef Jean's bid for the Haitian presidency due to residency requirements, Bill Clinton discusses the challenges of rebuilding Haiti. Clinton emphasizes the need for large infrastructure projects and small business loans. The hosts remain skeptical, suggesting that the "rebuilding" efforts are focused on profitable construction rather than immediate humanitarian needs. Keywords: [wyclef jean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wyclef-jean.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [presidential election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-election.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Carlos Slim and Dual Citizenship in Haiti (1:02:15–1:06:16) Bill Clinton mentions a $20 million loan facility for Haitian businesses established with Carlos Slim. He also expresses his priority to push for dual citizenship for the Haitian diaspora. The hosts argue this is a legal maneuver to allow Wyclef Jean or other preferred candidates to eventually take power in Haiti despite current residency laws. Keywords: [carlos slim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carlos-slim.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [dual citizenship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dual-citizenship.md), [wyclef jean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wyclef-jean.md), small business loans [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Haitian Political Stability and International Scrutiny (1:06:16–1:07:42) A discussion ensues regarding the difficulty of installing "stooges" in the Haitian government. The hosts argue that while past attempts involved simple coups or assassinations, modern international scrutiny requires a more complex, legalistic approach involving parliamentary votes and constitutional changes to ensure long-term control. Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [political assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-assassination.md), [international law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-law.md), stooges, [parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parliament.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Seroquel Side Effects and Greg Noblin's Story (1:07:43–1:09:21) Listener Greg Noblin shares a story about his girlfriend's long-term use of Seroquel as a sleep aid. He describes side effects such as muscle stiffness, dizziness, and impaired motor skills. The hosts reiterate their concerns about the over-prescription of powerful antipsychotics for minor issues like sleeplessness. Keywords: seroquel, [abilify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abilify.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md), greg noblin, [sleep aids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sleep-aids.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Psychiatric Nurse Report on Abilify and Seroquel (1:09:22–1:12:30) An anonymous psychiatric nurse provides a detailed report on the effects of Abilify and Seroquel. The nurse describes "jacked up" patients with bulging eyes and "burnt out" looks after years of high-dose treatment. The report also highlights the prevalence of these drugs among returning Marines, who are often prescribed a cocktail of five to seven different medications simultaneously. Keywords: [abilify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abilify.md), seroquel, psychiatric hospital, [marines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marines.md), polypharmacy [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Pop Screens and Gold Microphones for Leo Laporte (1:12:30–1:14:59) The hosts discuss technical audio issues, specifically the need for an internal pop screen for the Heil PR40 microphone. They joke about Leo Laporte receiving a gold-colored microphone from Bob Heil, similar to the one used by Rush Limbaugh, and express their own desire for "platinum" equipment. Keywords: [heil pr40](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heil-pr40.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md), pop filter, [microphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microphones.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Madoff Victims and De-Douching Requests (1:14:59–1:16:35) Several listeners are "de-douched" after making donations, including Michael from Palm Beach, who lost money in the Bernie Madoff scandal. Other donors from Sacramento and Ontario are recognized, with one listener requesting a "call out" for a friend who is a Dallas Cowboys fan. Keywords: [bernie madoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-madoff.md), [palm beach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palm-beach.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [dallas cowboys](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas-cowboys.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Knighting Ceremony for Sir Timothy Kavanaugh (1:16:35–1:19:38) Timothy Kavanaugh and Adriana K. Cain-Couture are officially knighted and damed, respectively, for their $1,000 donations. The hosts mention the upcoming "No Agenda Knight Rings" and reiterate that the show's sustainability depends on these high-level producers and monthly subscribers. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), timothy kavanaugh, adriana couture, [knight ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knight-ring.md), media spy [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Rolling Rock 33 and Reuters UFO PR Wire (1:19:39–1:22:22) The significance of the number 33 on Rolling Rock beer bottles is briefly discussed in relation to a predicted UFO event on October 13, 2010. The hosts clarify that a recent Reuters story about UFOs compromising nuclear weapons was actually a paid PR Newswire release promoting an $80 book by Robert Hastings, rather than an independent news report. Keywords: rolling rock, [33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/33.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [ufo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufo.md), [robert hastings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-hastings.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/28.md) ### 29. BI Incorporated and Electronic Shackle Centers (1:22:23–1:25:21) A new "Day Reporting Center" in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, run by BI Incorporated, is highlighted. The facility uses electronic bracelets to monitor "clients" (non-violent criminals) to ease jail overcrowding. The hosts criticize the terminology used by news readers, such as "enrollment" in prison and "clients" for inmates. Keywords: [bi incorporated](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bi-incorporated.md), luzerne county, [electronic monitoring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-monitoring.md), jail overcrowding, day reporting center [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/29.md) ### 30. 92-Year-Old Inmate and Coupon Theft (1:25:21–1:27:41) A news report details the case of a 92-year-old man who was jailed for three days for stealing coupons from a newspaper at a convenience store. The hosts use this as an example of the absurdity of the justice system, suggesting that electronic monitoring by companies like BI Incorporated is being marketed as a "solution" for such trivial offenses. Keywords: coupon theft, [incarceration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incarceration.md), elderly crime, [bi incorporated](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bi-incorporated.md), [timothy geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-geithner.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Orlando Police Brutality and Blackhawk Flyovers (1:27:44–1:30:04) An 85-year-old man in Orlando reportedly had his neck broken by police after a confrontation over a towed car. The hosts discuss the public's tendency to excuse police brutality and link the general atmosphere of intimidation to military Blackhawk helicopters flying over residential areas as a show of force. Keywords: orlando police, [taser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taser.md), [police brutality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-brutality.md), [blackhawks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackhawks.md), [psychological warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychological-warfare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Bell California Corruption Scandal and Salary Loopholes (1:30:05–1:34:06) The mayor and seven officials of Bell, California, were arrested for misappropriating tax funds. Former city manager Robert Rizzo reportedly made $800,000 a year. The hosts explain the "pension spiking" loophole in California law, where officials inflate their final year's salary to secure massive lifetime retirement benefits paid for by other municipalities. Keywords: bell california, robert rizzo, [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), pension spiking, [property taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/property-taxes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Showcase Arrests and Legalized Theft (1:34:07–1:36:18) The hosts characterize the arrests in Bell, California—complete with police battering rams—as "theater" designed to appease angry taxpayers. They predict the officials will serve little to no jail time and may still collect their inflated pensions, as the acts were technically legal maneuvers within a corrupt system. Keywords: bell california, [theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater.md), battering ram, [paraguay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paraguay.md), [bernie madoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-madoff.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/33.md) ### 34. HR 3534 CLEAR Act and UN Water Rights (1:36:20–1:39:33) The CLEAR Act (H.R. 3534), sponsored by Representative Nick Rahall, is described as a move to hand over American water rights to the United Nations under the Law of the Sea Treaty. The hosts argue this legislation will give an international body control over domestic oceans, coasts, and drinking water. Keywords: [clear act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clear-act.md), hr 3534, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [water rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-rights.md), nick rahall [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Gulf Coast Fish Kills and Oxygen Depletion (1:39:32–1:42:39) Massive "fish kills" in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, are reported, involving hundreds of thousands of dead fish and a baby whale. While officials suggest "oxygen depletion" as the cause, the hosts suggest the BP oil spill and the chemical dispersant Corexit are the more likely culprits, despite media attempts to frame the events as a mystery. Keywords: fish kill, [gulf of mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulf-of-mexico.md), plaquemines parish, [corexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corexit.md), oxygen depletion [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Austan Goolsbee and Ed Schultz Interview (1:42:39–1:46:07) Austan Goolsbee, the new chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, is mocked for his appearance on the Ed Schultz show. The hosts compare Goolsbee's voice to football coach John Gruden and criticize his lack of real-world business experience, labeling him another "academic" twerp tasked with fixing the economy. Keywords: [austan goolsbee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austan-goolsbee.md), [ed schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ed-schultz.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md), [christina romer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christina-romer.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Stimulus Spending and LA Job Creation Audit (1:46:07–1:48:54) An audit of stimulus spending in Los Angeles reveals that $111 million in federal funds resulted in the creation of only about 55 jobs. In one instance, $40.8 million given to the Department of Transportation created only nine jobs. The hosts argue that the money would have been more effectively spent if given directly to the public. Keywords: [stimulus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus.md), [job creation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-creation.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [audit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audit.md), [red tape](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-tape.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Home Depot Founder on Sarbanes-Oxley Regulations (1:48:54–1:52:06) The founder of Home Depot states in an interview that the company could not be started today due to the restrictive regulations of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. He argues that the high cost of compliance prevents small companies from going public and raising the capital necessary for growth, effectively killing the IPO market for businesses earning less than $400 million. 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Keywords: aquabounty, ge salmon, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), growth hormone, [russia today](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia-today.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/39.md) ### 40. GE Food Labeling and Weimaraner Sterilization Parallel (1:56:05–1:59:31) The debate over labeling genetically engineered foods is discussed, with critics fearing that GE salmon will escape and breed with wild populations. The hosts compare the company's claims of fish sterility to the history of the Weimaraner dog breed, noting that "contained" species inevitably find a way to propagate in the wild. Keywords: ge food, [labeling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labeling.md), [salmon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salmon.md), weimaraner, [sterilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sterilization.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/40.md) ### 41. NCIS Mexican Corruption Theme and Family Guy (1:59:31–2:01:06) John Dvorak notes that the new season of NCIS appears to be focusing on the corruption of the Mexican government. The segment also references a "Family Guy" clip that uses the "douchebag" meme, which the hosts find reflective of the current political climate in America. Keywords: [ncis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ncis.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [family guy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/family-guy.md), [douchebag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/douchebag.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/41.md) ### 42. 2010 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (2:01:07–2:04:30) A government survey reports that illegal drug use in the U.S. rose to 8.7% in 2009, driven by marijuana and ecstasy. The "drug czar" blames media coverage of medical marijuana for the increase. The hosts point out the survey's omission of heroin and the decline in cocaine use, which officials attribute to education rather than economic factors. Keywords: [drug use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-use.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [drug czar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-czar.md), [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/237-just-hiking/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Marijuana Potency Myths and Personal Experience (2:04:30–2:06:54) Adam Curry debunks the "meme" that modern marijuana is significantly more dangerous or "harder" than the varieties available in the 1960s. 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