# Weather Models on The No Agenda Show Weather Models comes up in 9 chapters across 9 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from June 2008 to May 2020. - **Chapters:** 9 - **Episodes:** 9 - **Discussed:** June 2008 – May 2020 - **Related topics:** [Meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md), [Weather Forecasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-forecasting.md), [Climate Change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [Climate Models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-models.md), [Computer Models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md), [Algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md), [Bahamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahamas.md), [East Bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/east-bay.md), [Electric Scooters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-scooters.md), [Florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md) ## Chapters 1–9 of 9 ### Hurricane Tracking Models, Climate Change Parallels - **Episode:** [1240: Meat Must Flow](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow.md) - **Published:** 2020-05-10 - **Time:** 29:26–31:50 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/hurricane-tracking-models-climate-change-parallels.md The proliferation of coronavirus models is compared to modern hurricane forecasting, where meteorologists now present dozens of different "tracks" rather than a single prediction. This shift is viewed as a way for experts to avoid responsibility by claiming "one of the models" was correct regardless of the outcome. The hosts suggest this methodology is also used in climate change discourse to maintain specific policy trajectories without accountability for accuracy. Keywords: hurricane tracking, [mit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mit.md), [weather forecasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-forecasting.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), predictive modeling ### San Francisco Power Disparity, PG&E Political Rift - **Episode:** [1180: ISIS in Oz](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1180-isis-in-oz.md) - **Published:** 2019-10-13 - **Time:** 15:46–18:32 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1180-isis-in-oz/chapter/san-francisco-power-disparity-pg-e-political-rift.md Reports from Mill Valley indicate power was cut despite calm weather, while the City of San Francisco remained fully powered. This disparity fuels theories that the shutoffs are part of a commercial or political rift between the utility provider and local governments. Keywords: [mill valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mill-valley.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [pg&e](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pg-e.md), [east bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/east-bay.md), [weather models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-models.md) ### Hurricane Dorian Forecast, Scooter-nado Satire - **Episode:** [1169: Hockeystick Hoax](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax.md) - **Published:** 2019-09-05 - **Time:** 1:36:51–1:39:49 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/hurricane-dorian-forecast-scooter-nado-satire.md Hurricane Dorian, a Category 4 storm, is projected to hit the Bahamas with 150 mph winds before potentially skirting the Florida coast. The hosts mock the inaccuracy of "spaghetti" weather models and joke about a "Scooter-nado" occurring if the storm hits Austin, Texas, and lofts thousands of dockless electric scooters into the air. Keywords: [hurricane dorian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-dorian.md), [bahamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahamas.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [weather models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-models.md), [electric scooters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-scooters.md), [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md) ### Vermont Weather Report, Climate Model Inaccuracy - **Episode:** [1164: Jacked-up Joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1164-jacked-up-joe.md) - **Published:** 2019-08-18 - **Time:** 1:07:05–1:08:33 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1164-jacked-up-joe/chapter/vermont-weather-report-climate-model-inaccuracy.md A local weather report from the Fairbanks Museum in Vermont highlights the inability of sophisticated computer models to agree on short-term rain chances for the upcoming week. This local uncertainty is used to question the reliability of long-term climate models that predict environmental conditions decades into the future. Keywords: [vermont](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vermont.md), [weather forecasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-forecasting.md), [computer models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md), fairbanks museum, [meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md) ### Meteorological Supercomputers, European vs American Weather Models - **Episode:** [962: Service Pony](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony.md) - **Published:** 2017-09-07 - **Time:** 4:47–6:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/meteorological-supercomputers-european-vs-american-weather-models.md A comparison of weather forecasting technology reveals that the European model is often considered superior to American models due to higher resolution and better supercomputing power. The hosts question why American meteorological technology has seemingly lagged behind since the 1980s. The segment concludes with a brief critique of how news algorithms and supercomputers are used to influence public opinion and maintain a state of fear. Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [supercomputers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supercomputers.md), [weather models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-models.md), european model, meteorological data, [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md) ### KTVU Weather Forecast Inaccuracy and Orographic Lifting - **Episode:** [872: Kinetic Kill](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/872-kinetic-kill.md) - **Published:** 2016-10-27 - **Time:** 2:20–6:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/872-kinetic-kill/chapter/ktvu-weather-forecast-inaccuracy-and-orographic-lifting.md John C. Dvorak criticizes a KTVU weather reporter for ignoring official government weather models to make a personal prediction of heavy rain that failed to materialize. The reporter described subtropical moisture as "jet fuel" for storms and utilized the term "orographic lifting" to explain the predicted precipitation. Despite the forecast for a wet morning commute in Northern California, conditions remained dry. Keywords: [ktvu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ktvu.md), weather model, orographic lifting, [jet fuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jet-fuel.md), moisture, [meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md) ### Global Warming Weather Models, Computer Model Accuracy - **Episode:** [658: It's a Glitch!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/658-it-s-a-glitch.md) - **Published:** 2014-10-05 - **Time:** 2:51:56–2:55:05 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/658-it-s-a-glitch/chapter/global-warming-weather-models-computer-model-accuracy.md Oxford University scientists are developing a new model to link extreme weather events to man-made global warming within three days. The hosts express skepticism toward computer models, noting their inability to accurately predict short-term weather. They argue that these models are often tweaked to support specific climate change narratives. Keywords: [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [oxford university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-university.md), [computer models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md), weather prediction ### John Coleman, Weather Channel Founder, Global Warming Skepticism - **Episode:** [600: Seven Proxies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/600-seven-proxies.md) - **Published:** 2014-03-20 - **Time:** 2:50:42–2:56:16 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/600-seven-proxies/chapter/john-coleman-weather-channel-founder-global-warming-skepticism.md John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, presents a case against the theory of significant man-made global warming. He cites his 60 years of experience as a meteorologist and criticizes the American Meteorological Society for politicizing science. Coleman highlights the discrepancy between atmospheric warming models and actual measured temperatures, which he claims have shown no warming since 1998. Keywords: [john coleman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-coleman.md), [weather channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-channel.md), ams, [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [climate models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-models.md), [meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md) ### Weather Prediction Skepticism and Public Debate - **Episode:** [36: Yahoo+Microsoft=Britney Spears](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/36-yahoo-microsoft-britney-spears.md) - **Published:** 2008-06-22 - **Time:** 18:57–21:05 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/36-yahoo-microsoft-britney-spears/chapter/weather-prediction-skepticism-and-public-debate.md The reliability of long-term climate models is questioned given the difficulty of predicting local weather more than a few hours in advance. Critics of mainstream climate science are often demonized or shouted down in public forums. 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