# Underwear Bomber on The No Agenda Show Underwear Bomber comes up in 12 chapters across 12 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from January 2010 to January 2015. - **Chapters:** 12 - **Episodes:** 12 - **Discussed:** January 2010 – January 2015 - **Related topics:** [Tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [Detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [Fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [Security Theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), [Al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [Ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [Schiphol Airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md), [9-11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [Abc News](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [Abdulmutallab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abdulmutallab.md) ## Chapters 1–12 of 12 ### Al-Qaeda Technology and the Adaptive Enemy Narrative - **Episode:** [688: Threat Stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/688-threat-stream.md) - **Published:** 2015-01-18 - **Time:** 44:05–49:01 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/688-threat-stream/chapter/al-qaeda-technology-and-the-adaptive-enemy-narrative.md Bob Baer warns of Al-Qaeda's advancing technology, specifically the use of PETN explosives in toner cartridges and the "hygroscopic" nature of the failed underwear bomber's device. Lieutenant General Mark Hartley describes the threat as an "adaptive enemy" capable of stealing police uniforms to infiltrate secure locations, emphasizing that individual "lone wolf" attacks are relatively easy to execute in the United States. Keywords: [bob baer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-baer.md), [khorasan group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/khorasan-group.md), [petn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petn.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), mark hartley, [aviation security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-security.md) ### Intelligence Failures, Imagination and the Underwear Bomber - **Episode:** [646: Boundless Barbarity](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/646-boundless-barbarity.md) - **Published:** 2014-08-30 - **Time:** 1:48:02–1:51:41 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/646-boundless-barbarity/chapter/intelligence-failures-imagination-and-the-underwear-bomber.md The "lack of imagination" cited by intelligence officials regarding 9/11 is contrasted with the allegedly "imaginative" plot of the 2009 "Underwear Bomber" over Detroit. Critics suggest that the ability of a Nigerian national to board a plane at Schiphol Airport without a passport indicates either extreme incompetence or a staged event. Current rhetoric focuses on "disabling offense" to keep the "right people" off aircraft. Keywords: [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [aqap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aqap.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [schiphol airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md) ### Aspen Security Conference, TSA Administrator Underwear Bomber Joke - **Episode:** [638: Parliment Update](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/638-parliment-update.md) - **Published:** 2014-07-27 - **Time:** 49:34–52:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/638-parliment-update/chapter/aspen-security-conference-tsa-administrator-underwear-bomber-joke.md At the Aspen Security Conference, TSA Administrator John Pistole discussed the 2009 "underwear bomber" incident with a cavalier tone. Pistole suggested the device failed because it had been worn for two weeks and its "efficacy was degraded" by poor hygiene. Critics found the joking manner of the discussion offensive given the invasive security measures implemented nationwide as a result of the attempt. Keywords: aspen security conference, john pistola, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security.md) ### Underwear Bomber Simulation and Security Theater - **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos.md) - **Published:** 2014-05-15 - **Time:** 44:30–47:22 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos/chapter/underwear-bomber-simulation-and-security-theater.md The hosts critique a 15-second FBI simulation video showing the potential impact of the "underwear bomber" device. They argue that the video is designed to frighten the public rather than reflect the reality of the failed 2009 plot, which was thwarted by passengers rather than government security. The discussion emphasizes the reliance on "imagined" catastrophes to justify invasive security protocols. Keywords: [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), abdel muttallib, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), explosive device ### Underwear Bomber Simulation and Public Intervention - **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2.md) - **Published:** 2014-05-15 - **Time:** 44:30–47:22 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/underwear-bomber-simulation-and-public-intervention.md Adam plays a clip of John Pistole showing an FBI simulation of what the "underwear bomber's" device would have done to an aircraft. The hosts point out that the actual 2009 attempt failed due to the device malfunctioning and the intervention of passengers, rather than government security measures. They argue the TSA uses these simulations to maintain a climate of fear. Keywords: abdel muttallib, [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md) ### Schiphol Airport Security, Opting Out of Body Scanners - **Episode:** [427: Huma-Gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/427-huma-gate.md) - **Published:** 2012-07-19 - **Time:** 14:46–17:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/427-huma-gate/chapter/schiphol-airport-security-opting-out-of-body-scanners.md Adam Curry discusses the presence of a hidden No Agenda Wi-Fi access point at Schiphol Airport. He details his experience opting out of the "Gitmo" body scanners at the gate, noting that security allowed him and Miss Mickey to use a simple magnetometer instead. Curry argues this proves airport security is largely "theater," especially at the airport where the 2009 underwear bomber originated. Keywords: [schiphol airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md) ### Underwear Bomber C-SPAN Call-in and Handler Allegations - **Episode:** [385: CIA vs DIA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/385-cia-vs-dia.md) - **Published:** 2012-02-23 - **Time:** 2:15:50–2:19:46 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/385-cia-vs-dia/chapter/underwear-bomber-c-span-call-in-and-handler-allegations.md A C-SPAN segment featuring the editor of Homeland Security Magazine was disrupted by callers citing attorney Kurt Haskell's testimony regarding the 2009 underwear bomber. Callers alleged that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was escorted onto the plane by men in suits despite lacking a passport, suggesting government complicity. Keywords: [abdulmutallab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abdulmutallab.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), kurt haskell, [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md) ### TSA Security, Public Intervention, Domestic Terrorism Fears - **Episode:** [350: Lady McDeath](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/350-lady-mcdeath.md) - **Published:** 2011-10-23 - **Time:** 23:19–27:57 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/350-lady-mcdeath/chapter/tsa-security-public-intervention-domestic-terrorism-fears.md A personal anecdote describes a conversation with a successful professional who views George W. Bush and Ayaan Hirsi Ali as heroes for their stance on national security. The discussion contrasts the perceived necessity of the TSA with the fact that passengers, not security agencies, stopped the shoe and underwear bombers. The narrative criticizes the "Gitmo nation" mentality of relying on government experts rather than armed citizens. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [al qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [shoe bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shoe-bomber.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [9-11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md) ### Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab, Underwear Bomber Trial and Video Evidence - **Episode:** [343: ZomBin Laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/343-zombin-laden.md) - **Published:** 2011-09-29 - **Time:** 16:21–19:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/343-zombin-laden/chapter/umar-farooq-abdulmutallab-underwear-bomber-trial-and-video-evidence.md The trial of Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab, known as the underwear bomber, involves the use of model demonstrations and "martyr videos" produced by Al-Qaeda. Legal concerns are raised regarding the use of simulation videos to show what "might have happened" to influence a jury, drawing parallels to fictionalized media. Keywords: umar farooq abdulmutallab, [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), martyr video, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [judge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judge.md) ### Underwear Bomber Trial and Government Escort Theory - **Episode:** [274: GaGa vs Bieber](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/274-gaga-vs-bieber.md) - **Published:** 2011-01-30 - **Time:** 58:26–1:01:36 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/274-gaga-vs-bieber/chapter/underwear-bomber-trial-and-government-escort-theory.md Attorneys Kurt and Lori Haskell, who were passengers on the 2009 Christmas Day flight, claim the U.S. government escorted Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab onto the plane without a passport. They allege the "Underwear Bomber" was part of a staged event to justify TSA body scanners and the renewal of the Patriot Act. The hosts agree that the official narrative contains numerous unexplained inconsistencies. Keywords: umar farooq abdulmutallab, [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), kurt haskell, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [patriot act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-act.md) ### Pierre Thomas and ABC News Terror Warning Deconstruction - **Episode:** [263: Don't Ask, Don't Yell](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell.md) - **Published:** 2010-12-23 - **Time:** 34:49–46:01 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/pierre-thomas-and-abc-news-terror-warning-deconstruction.md An ABC News article by Pierre Thomas and Jack Cloherty is analyzed for its use of "chilling" details and urgent language to predispose the audience to fear. The discussion questions the validity of the "alarming rise" in domestic terrorism and suggests the FBI plays a role in radicalizing the individuals it later arrests. Keywords: [pierre thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-thomas.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [homegrown terror](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homegrown-terror.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md) ### Waterboarding Promotion, Bill O'Reilly, and the Underwear Bomber - **Episode:** [164: Waterboarding For Everyone!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone.md) - **Published:** 2010-01-10 - **Time:** 9:54–13:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/waterboarding-promotion-bill-o-reilly-and-the-underwear-bomber.md The media is reportedly seeing a resurgence in the promotion of waterboarding as an effective interrogation tool following the attempted bombing by a Nigerian national. 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