# Ture on The No Agenda Show

Ture comes up in 13 chapters across 12 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from September 2013 to September 2026.

- **Chapters:** 13
- **Episodes:** 12
- **Discussed:** September 2013 – September 2026
- **Related topics:** [Turing Test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [Msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [Ai Safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-safety.md), [Neural Networks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neural-networks.md), [Rachel Maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [Addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), [Agentic Ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agentic-ai.md), [Agi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agi.md), [Ai Slop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-slop.md), [Angela Merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md)

## Chapters 1–13 of 13

### Jaron Lanier on AI Religion and China

- **Episode:** [1906: Name Drop](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1906-name-drop.md)
- **Published:** 2026-09-24
- **Time:** 55:59–1:06:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1906-name-drop/chapter/jaron-lanier-on-ai-religion-and-china.md

Visionary Jaron Lanier spoke at a conference about the "pseudo-religion" surrounding AI and the drive to create a digital god. He argues that the industry's focus on passing the Turing Test with human-like voices is an expensive "parlor trick" that creates addiction and political distortion. Lanier notes that Chinese AI models are often cheaper because they focus on utility rather than human-like personality illusions.

Keywords: [jaron lanier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jaron-lanier.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [ai safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-safety.md), [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [virtual reality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virtual-reality.md)

### AI Slop Stream Launch and Music Submission Guidelines

- **Episode:** [1813: Lunchbox](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1813-lunchbox.md)
- **Published:** 2025-11-02
- **Time:** 6:56–8:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1813-lunchbox/chapter/ai-slop-stream-launch-and-music-submission-guidelines.md

A new 24/7 streaming service dedicated to "AI slop" music has been launched, featuring a rotation of algorithmically generated tracks and show jingles. The stream includes categories such as "Gitmo Jams," "Emo Algo," and "Turing Test Tunes." Producers are invited to submit their own AI-generated music with a strict maximum duration of 90 seconds per track.

Keywords: [ai slop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-slop.md), [gitmo jams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-jams.md), turing test tunes, [streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

### Agentic AI Testing, Dvorak Weed Whacker Turing Test

- **Episode:** [1755: Rat Poop](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1755-rat-poop.md)
- **Published:** 2025-04-13
- **Time:** 1:24:28–1:30:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1755-rat-poop/chapter/agentic-ai-testing-dvorak-weed-whacker-turing-test.md

A test of "agentic AI" using the service manis.im was conducted to find the best weed whacker, resulting in a detailed but "parlor trick" website that took over an hour to generate and cost $10. The results are dismissed as an inefficient abuse of compute power compared to traditional search. The discussion also touches on how Google's AI-integrated search results are destroying traditional SEO and creating barriers for website owners.

Keywords: manis.im, [agentic ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agentic-ai.md), [weed whacker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weed-whacker.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [seo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seo.md)

### Geoffrey Hinton Google Resignation, Superintelligence Risks

- **Episode:** [1553: Ample Bosom](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1553-ample-bosom.md)
- **Published:** 2023-05-07
- **Time:** 1:18:52–1:25:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1553-ample-bosom/chapter/geoffrey-hinton-google-resignation-superintelligence-risks.md

Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, known as the "Godfather of AI," resigned from Google to speak freely about the dangers of the technology. In a PBS interview, he warns about the risks of fake news, job displacement, and the potential for superintelligent AI to take control from humans. The hosts are dismissive of his warnings, characterizing them as vague and potentially part of a broader "scam" or communist-leaning ideology.

Keywords: geoffrey hinton, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [ai safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-safety.md), [neural networks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neural-networks.md), turing award, [fake news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-news.md)

### Neural Networks History, Back Propagation Algorithm

- **Episode:** [1553: Ample Bosom](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1553-ample-bosom.md)
- **Published:** 2023-05-07
- **Time:** 1:25:34–1:28:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1553-ample-bosom/chapter/neural-networks-history-back-propagation-algorithm.md

A technical deep dive into Geoffrey Hinton's career reveals his work on neural networks and the back propagation algorithm, for which he won the Turing Award in 2018. The hosts examine his academic background and his personal website at the University of Toronto, noting its dated design. They clarify that his work focused on "deep learning" rather than general AI.

Keywords: geoffrey hinton, [neural networks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neural-networks.md), turing award, back propagation, [google brain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-brain.md), [lisp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisp.md), toronto university

### Turing Test Misconceptions, AI Language Mastery

- **Episode:** [1547: A Sally](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1547-a-sally.md)
- **Published:** 2023-04-16
- **Time:** 1:50:22–1:54:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1547-a-sally/chapter/turing-test-misconceptions-ai-language-mastery.md

MIT professor Max Tegmark is criticized for misdefining the Turing Test as simply "being able to talk like a human." The actual test requires a machine to be indistinguishable from a human in a blind exchange. Skeptics argue that ChatGPT's "flowery" and repetitive sentences do not yet pass this threshold and that the technology still struggles with basic factual correctness and multi-language translation.

Keywords: [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), alan turing, max tegmark, [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), [machine learning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/machine-learning.md)

### AI Voice Mimicry and the AGI Turing Test

- **Episode:** [1544: Trusted Flaggers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1544-trusted-flaggers.md)
- **Published:** 2023-04-06
- **Time:** 1:00:28–1:05:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1544-trusted-flaggers/chapter/ai-voice-mimicry-and-the-agi-turing-test.md

The hosts debate the current state of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and its ability to perfectly replicate human voices. They test an AI-generated clip of Donald Trump, which they ultimately find unconvincing due to failures in cadence and content. They compare the AI's performance to Jamie Foxx's human impersonation of Trump, concluding that while voice synthesis is improving, it still lacks the nuance required to fool a discerning listener.

Keywords: [agi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agi.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [jamie foxx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-foxx.md), [voice synthesis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voice-synthesis.md), [deepfake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepfake.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md)

### Automated Helper Bots and Cold Turkey Addiction Breaks

- **Episode:** [1039: Bot Cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops.md)
- **Published:** 2018-06-04
- **Time:** 2:52:43–2:54:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops/chapter/automated-helper-bots-and-cold-turkey-addiction-breaks.md

The hosts discuss their interactions with automated "helper" bots and the difficulty of enforcing bot-labeling laws. They conclude that the only effective way to break smartphone addiction is to go "cold turkey" and move "off the grid" (OTG) by using devices that do not provide constant notifications and updates.

Keywords: [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), [smartphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphone.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md)

### Facial Recognition Technology and Final Sign-off

- **Episode:** [913: Toxic Chat](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/913-toxic-chat.md)
- **Published:** 2017-03-19
- **Time:** 2:30:59–2:43:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/913-toxic-chat/chapter/facial-recognition-technology-and-final-sign-off.md

The show concludes with a discussion on the rapid advancement of facial recognition technology being tested by Eurostar and the FBI. John Dvorak recounts a personal experience in Portugal where he was unable to "beat" a facial recognition system despite making faces and wearing hats. The hosts propose a "Turing test" for the software using old photos of Rachel Maddow before signing off from Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [eurostar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurostar.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

### Rachel Maddow and Gang Alliances in Baltimore

- **Episode:** [717: Juice Jacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/717-juice-jacking.md)
- **Published:** 2015-04-30
- **Time:** 47:11–50:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/717-juice-jacking/chapter/rachel-maddow-and-gang-alliances-in-baltimore.md

MSNBC coverage features Rachel Maddow criticizing police tactics and contributor Touré interviewing gang members. A member of the Bloods claims that an alliance with the Crips was formed through "political connections" to ensure peace, which the hosts interpret as evidence of local corruption.

Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), bloods, crips, gang alliance, [ture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ture.md)

### Healthcare.gov Data Leak, Ford Active Noise Control and The Imitation Game

- **Episode:** [690: Win by a Gyp](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/690-win-by-a-gyp.md)
- **Published:** 2015-01-25
- **Time:** 2:56:13–2:59:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/690-win-by-a-gyp/chapter/healthcare-gov-data-leak-ford-active-noise-control-and-the-imitation-game.md

The hosts cover three tech news items: the Obama administration's reversal on sharing consumer data from Healthcare.gov with private advertisers, Ford's use of "active noise control" to play fake engine sounds through car speakers, and historical inaccuracies in the film "The Imitation Game." They note the movie ignores the Polish cryptologists who first broke the Enigma code.

Keywords: [healthcare.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-gov.md), [hipaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipaa.md), ford mustang, the imitation game, alan turing

### Ture Media Commentary, European Spying Reactions

- **Episode:** [560: Hornet's Nest](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/560-hornet-s-nest.md)
- **Published:** 2013-10-27
- **Time:** 1:44:38–1:49:30
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/560-hornet-s-nest/chapter/ture-media-commentary-european-spying-reactions.md

Media personality Ture defends government spying on allies as a necessary duty to understand private beliefs versus public statements, particularly regarding the Eurozone. The hosts counter that the systematic nature of the spying suggests motives of blackmail and insider trading.

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### Ture's Geography Error and Kenya's President

- **Episode:** [551: The Tolerance Podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/551-the-tolerance-podcast.md)
- **Published:** 2013-09-26
- **Time:** 2:16:57–2:18:37
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/551-the-tolerance-podcast/chapter/ture-s-geography-error-and-kenya-s-president.md

MSNBC contributor Ture incorrectly identified Kenya as being on the "northern coast" of Africa during a report on the Westgate mall attack. The hosts mock the error, noting Kenya is on the east coast. Additionally, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta is heard stating that the attackers have been "ashamed and defeated," a phrasing the hosts find unusual.

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