# Timothy Mcveigh on The No Agenda Show

Timothy Mcveigh comes up in 10 chapters across 10 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2010 to October 2017.

- **Chapters:** 10
- **Episodes:** 10
- **Discussed:** April 2010 – October 2017
- **Related topics:** [Drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [Fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [Oklahoma City Bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city-bombing.md), [Afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [Anders Breivik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anders-breivik.md), [Barack Obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [Bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), [Chris Hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [David Gregory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-gregory.md), [Debate Strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate-strategy.md)

## Chapters 1–10 of 10

### Redefining Terrorism, Expansion of Police State

- **Episode:** [971: MADCOM](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/971-madcom.md)
- **Published:** 2017-10-08
- **Time:** 1:09:18–1:12:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/971-madcom/chapter/redefining-terrorism-expansion-of-police-state.md

The hosts argue that existing laws are sufficient to punish mass killers and that the push to redefine "terrorism" is a move toward a more pervasive police state. They express concern that broadening the definition could eventually include minor offenses like bullying or domestic disputes.

Keywords: [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [police state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-state.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [dylann roof](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dylann-roof.md), [legal definitions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-definitions.md)

### Keith Ellison, Ted Cruz and Muslim Neighborhood Patrols

- **Episode:** [811: Dead Men Can't Sue](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/811-dead-men-can-t-sue.md)
- **Published:** 2016-03-27
- **Time:** 1:30:09–1:37:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/811-dead-men-can-t-sue/chapter/keith-ellison-ted-cruz-and-muslim-neighborhood-patrols.md

Congressman Keith Ellison appeared on MSNBC with Chris Hayes to criticize Ted Cruz's proposal to patrol Muslim neighborhoods. Ellison argued that "panic and scapegoating" do not make the country safer and pointed out that many domestic terror attacks are committed by non-Muslims, citing Timothy McVeigh. The discussion touches on the shift in political rhetoric from Donald Trump to Ted Cruz regarding the monitoring of religious communities.

Keywords: [keith ellison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-ellison.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [chris hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [profiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profiling.md)

### General Spider Marks, Domestic Drones, and Timothy McVeigh

- **Episode:** [591: Mipster Intercept](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/591-mipster-intercept.md)
- **Published:** 2014-02-13
- **Time:** 41:32–44:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/591-mipster-intercept/chapter/general-spider-marks-domestic-drones-and-timothy-mcveigh.md

Retired General "Spider" Marks argued on CNN that drone strikes against American citizens should be considered intellectually consistent whether the target is overseas or on U.S. soil. He used the hypothetical example of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, suggesting that if drone technology had existed, it would have been preferable to use a drone against Timothy McVeigh's truck. This rhetoric is viewed as a precursor to normalizing the use of lethal drone technology within the United States.

Keywords: spider marks, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [oklahoma city bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city-bombing.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md)

### Oklahoma City Bombing and FBI Sting Allegations

- **Episode:** [366: Fools & Knaves](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/366-fools-knaves.md)
- **Published:** 2011-12-18
- **Time:** 2:32:30–2:35:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/366-fools-knaves/chapter/oklahoma-city-bombing-and-fbi-sting-allegations.md

Attorney Jesse Trentadue has obtained FOIA documents suggesting the Oklahoma City bombing was an FBI sting operation that went out of control. The allegations claim that Eric Holder authorized the FBI to provide explosives to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols but lost track of them. The hosts discuss the ongoing legal battle in Salt Lake City to release more documents related to the 1995 bombing.

Keywords: [oklahoma city bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city-bombing.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), jesse trentadue, [foia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foia.md)

### Ron Paul Timothy McVeigh Reference and Debate Rigging Allegations

- **Episode:** [359: First Buddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/359-first-buddy.md)
- **Published:** 2011-11-24
- **Time:** 18:46–21:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/359-first-buddy/chapter/ron-paul-timothy-mcveigh-reference-and-debate-rigging-allegations.md

The hosts examine a specific exchange where Ron Paul referenced Timothy McVeigh, which allowed Newt Gingrich to deliver a prepared one-liner. They speculate that the debate was "rigged" or that there was a mole in the Paul camp, as the moderator, Wolf Blitzer, immediately returned to Gingrich for a rebuttal despite Paul not mentioning him by name. They suggest the script was designed to favor the "hawks" on stage.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [debate strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate-strategy.md)

### David Gregory, Beth Wilkinson, Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest

- **Episode:** [358: Bogative Charity](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/358-bogative-charity.md)
- **Published:** 2011-11-20
- **Time:** 1:53:37–1:58:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/358-bogative-charity/chapter/david-gregory-beth-wilkinson-fannie-mae-conflict-of-interest.md

"Meet the Press" host David Gregory is criticized for a conflict of interest regarding his wife, Beth Wilkinson, who served as a top executive at Fannie Mae. Wilkinson, a former prosecutor who argued for the execution of Timothy McVeigh, resigned from Fannie Mae in 2008 with a significant undisclosed compensation package. The hosts argue that Gregory's reporting on financial regulation and Newt Gingrich's ties to Fannie Mae is compromised by his family's direct involvement with the agency.

Keywords: [david gregory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-gregory.md), beth wilkinson, [fannie mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [meet the press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meet-the-press.md)

### Norway Attacks, Lone Wolf and Right-Wing Terror Memes

- **Episode:** [325: Axis of Abuse](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/325-axis-of-abuse.md)
- **Published:** 2011-07-28
- **Time:** 1:20:03–1:23:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/325-axis-of-abuse/chapter/norway-attacks-lone-wolf-and-right-wing-terror-memes.md

Following the mass murder in Oslo and Utoya, media outlets and politicians emphasize the threat of "lone wolf" right-wing terrorism. Comparisons are drawn between Anders Breivik and Timothy McVeigh, with calls for increased internet surveillance and "more democracy" to counter extremist ideologies.

Keywords: [anders breivik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anders-breivik.md), [oslo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oslo.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [lone wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-wolf.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md)

### Obama Absence and MKUltra Government Theories

- **Episode:** [324: Cut, Cap, Duck & Cover](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/324-cut-cap-duck-cover.md)
- **Published:** 2011-07-24
- **Time:** 42:42–45:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/324-cut-cap-duck-cover/chapter/obama-absence-and-mkultra-government-theories.md

The hosts question President Obama's lack of a major public response to the Norway attacks. They suggest the perpetrator could be a product of MKUltra-style programming, comparing the situation to Timothy McVeigh.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [nobel peace prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-peace-prize.md), [mkultra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mkultra.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md)

### We Stopped The War Organization, Timothy McVeigh Research

- **Episode:** [246: Code for Biodiversity!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/246-code-for-biodiversity.md)
- **Published:** 2010-10-24
- **Time:** 15:21–18:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/246-code-for-biodiversity/chapter/we-stopped-the-war-organization-timothy-mcveigh-research.md

The hosts mention a website called We Stopped The War, which features No Agenda content in its news section. One host describes researching Timothy McVeigh's truck bomb diagrams for a segment on Law & Order, jokingly expressing concern that such searches might attract FBI surveillance.

Keywords: we stopped the war, [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [law and order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-and-order.md)

### Timothy McVeigh Tapes, Bullying Narrative, MSNBC Special

- **Episode:** [193: Goldman Sachs and the Pedo Bear](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/193-goldman-sachs-and-the-pedo-bear.md)
- **Published:** 2010-04-22
- **Time:** 1:06:14–1:10:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/193-goldman-sachs-and-the-pedo-bear/chapter/timothy-mcveigh-tapes-bullying-narrative-msnbc-special.md

MSNBC aired a special featuring tapes of Timothy McVeigh, narrated by Rachel Maddow, which focuses on McVeigh's childhood and experiences being bullied. The hosts criticize the program for attempting to humanize the bomber through a "bullying" narrative. They identify this as a recurring media meme used to explain radicalization and social deviance.

Keywords: [timothy mcveigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-mcveigh.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), [oklahoma city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city.md)

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