# The Verge on The No Agenda Show

The Verge comes up in 19 chapters across 19 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2013 to June 2026.

- **Chapters:** 19
- **Episodes:** 19
- **Discussed:** February 2013 – June 2026
- **Related topics:** [Nilay Patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nilay-patel.md), [Content Moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md), [Podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [Artificial Intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [Elon Musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [Facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [Google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [Mark Zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [Adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

## Chapters 1–19 of 19

### Elon Musk, Trillionaire Status, and The Verge Allegations

- **Episode:** [1877: Flim Flam](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1877-flim-flam.md)
- **Published:** 2026-06-14
- **Time:** 40:23–45:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1877-flim-flam/chapter/elon-musk-trillionaire-status-and-the-verge-allegations.md

Elon Musk is identified as the world's first trillionaire following a successful SpaceX IPO. The Verge publishes a highly critical article accusing Musk of being responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths due to USAID cuts, a claim dismissed as "pathetic" by the hosts. Media figures like Thomas Friedman debate the morality of singular wealth accrual of this magnitude while global suffering continues.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [spacex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spacex.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [wealth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth.md), trillionaire

### Nilay Patel Interview, Substack Content Moderation

- **Episode:** [1547: A Sally](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1547-a-sally.md)
- **Published:** 2023-04-16
- **Time:** 1:34:55–1:42:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1547-a-sally/chapter/nilay-patel-interview-substack-content-moderation.md

Nilay Patel of The Verge interviewed Substack CEO Chris Best, pressuring him on whether the platform would censor "overt racism" on its new Notes feature. Best's refusal to engage in "gotcha" moderation questions was criticized as a poor PR response, while Patel was mocked for his aggressive stance on censorship. The exchange highlights the ongoing tension between "free speech" platforms and mainstream tech journalists.

Keywords: [nilay patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nilay-patel.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [substack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/substack.md), chris best, [content moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md)

### Podcast Creation Decline, Spotify, Anchor Platform

- **Episode:** [1523: Tank Talk](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1523-tank-talk.md)
- **Published:** 2023-01-22
- **Time:** 1:27:21–1:32:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1523-tank-talk/chapter/podcast-creation-decline-spotify-anchor-platform.md

New podcast creation has reportedly dropped by 80% since 2020, according to data published in The Verge. Much of the previous surge was attributed to Spotify's Anchor platform, which allowed users to easily create low-quality or "test" episodes. The decline is also linked to the end of "free money" for ESG-focused content and a realization that podcast discovery remains a significant hurdle for new creators.

Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [anchor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchor.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), ariel shapiro, [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md)

### Twitter Content Moderation, The Sink Meme

- **Episode:** [1499: Wack o' Wibs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1499-wack-o-wibs.md)
- **Published:** 2022-11-20
- **Time:** 1:04:59–1:09:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1499-wack-o-wibs/chapter/twitter-content-moderation-the-sink-meme.md

Media outlets express concern that Musk’s "free speech" agenda will lead to a surge in misinformation and the reinstatement of banned accounts like Donald Trump's. Elizabeth Lopato of The Verge explains the "let that sink in" pun and the history of Musk's friction with Twitter's previous board. The hosts debate whether Musk's actions are a calculated business move or a personal grudge against the former leadership.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [content moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), elizabeth lopato

### Gas Stove Health Risks, The Verge "Native Ad"

- **Episode:** [1321: Doctored Evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1321-doctored-evidence.md)
- **Published:** 2021-02-14
- **Time:** 3:16:35–3:21:23
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1321-doctored-evidence/chapter/gas-stove-health-risks-the-verge-native-ad.md

The Verge published an article claiming that gas stoves unleash indoor air pollutants like soot, formaldehyde, and carbon monoxide. The hosts characterize the piece as a "native ad" designed to push consumers toward electric appliances. They argue that clean-burning natural gas is efficient and that the health risks are being exaggerated to serve a "green energy" agenda.

Keywords: [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [gas stoves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-stoves.md), [fossil fuels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fossil-fuels.md), indoor air pollutants, [formaldehyde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formaldehyde.md)

### Section 230 and The Verge's Coverage of Twitter

- **Episode:** [1289: Post Orange](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1289-post-orange.md)
- **Published:** 2020-10-25
- **Time:** 1:03:28–1:07:41
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1289-post-orange/chapter/section-230-and-the-verge-s-coverage-of-twitter.md

The hosts critique "The Vergecast" for its dismissive coverage of the Section 230 debate following Twitter's blocking of the New York Post. They discuss the FCC's potential moves to clarify Section 230 and the upcoming Senate subpoenas for Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg. The segment also highlights the technical "bloat" and tracking cookies found on The Verge's website.

Keywords: [section 230](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-230.md), [jack dorsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-dorsey.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md)

### Away Luggage CEO Steph Corey, Slack Workplace Toxicity

- **Episode:** [1198: Self Certified](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1198-self-certified.md)
- **Published:** 2019-12-15
- **Time:** 1:55:06–2:06:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1198-self-certified/chapter/away-luggage-ceo-steph-corey-slack-workplace-toxicity.md

The Verge published an exposé on the luggage company "Away," leading to the resignation of CEO Steph Corey over allegations of a "toxic" workplace culture. The report detailed Corey's use of public Slack channels to berate employees, which the hosts argue is a result of a "text-based" culture lacking vocal context. They suggest that millennial employees are being "enslaved" by 24-hour digital communication and "cheap trinkets" like office dogs and free food.

Keywords: steph corey, away luggage, [slack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slack.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), millennial workforce, toxic culture

### Elizabeth Warren, Silicon Valley Breakup Proposal

- **Episode:** [1178: Snakes and Spikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1178-snakes-and-spikes.md)
- **Published:** 2019-10-06
- **Time:** 31:35–39:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1178-snakes-and-spikes/chapter/elizabeth-warren-silicon-valley-breakup-proposal.md

Leaked audio published by The Verge features Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg discussing the potential legal challenges of an Elizabeth Warren presidency, specifically her proposal to break up big tech companies. Some analysts speculate the leak may be a coordinated effort to bolster Warren's image as a tough regulator while maintaining her underlying ties to Democratic donors in Silicon Valley. The discussion questions whether the proposed antitrust actions are politically motivated theater.

Keywords: [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [antitrust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antitrust.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md)

### Facebook Content Moderators, The Verge Investigation

- **Episode:** [1117: Composting People](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1117-composting-people.md)
- **Published:** 2019-03-03
- **Time:** 2:02:35–2:08:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1117-composting-people/chapter/facebook-content-moderators-the-verge-investigation.md

An investigation by The Verge's Casey Newton reveals the harrowing conditions for Facebook content moderators in Phoenix, Arizona. These contractors earn $15 an hour to review hundreds of violent or sexually explicit posts daily. The report suggests these workers are treated as "cogs" and temporary placeholders until AI can perform the task.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [content moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), casey newton, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

### Google Gmail AI, TensorFlow Spam Filtering Issues

- **Episode:** [1112: El Valvador](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1112-el-valvador.md)
- **Published:** 2019-02-15
- **Time:** 3:41–8:00
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1112-el-valvador/chapter/google-gmail-ai-tensorflow-spam-filtering-issues.md

Google has implemented the TensorFlow machine learning platform into Gmail to block an additional 100 million spam messages daily. Users report that the AI is erroneously flagging legitimate security emails from PayPal and other services as spam. Concerns exist regarding Gmail's ranking system and its refusal to pass non-encrypted SMTP traffic.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [gmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmail.md), [tensorflow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tensorflow.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [spam filters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spam-filters.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md)

### Sarah Jeong, New York Times Editorial Board Controversy

- **Episode:** [1057: Heckler's Veto](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1057-heckler-s-veto.md)
- **Published:** 2018-08-09
- **Time:** 3:30–11:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1057-heckler-s-veto/chapter/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-editorial-board-controversy.md

Sarah Jeong's appointment to the New York Times editorial board is examined following the resurfacing of her past tweets regarding white men. Her background in technology journalism at The Verge and her speech at Harvard Law School are analyzed, with focus on her views that the internet is "implicitly organized around how white men see the world."

Keywords: sarah jeong, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), harvard law school, [james woods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-woods.md)

### Al Gore Climate Deadlines and Miami Submersion Predictions

- **Episode:** [787: Climate Deaths](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/787-climate-deaths.md)
- **Published:** 2016-01-03
- **Time:** 30:01–36:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/787-climate-deaths/chapter/al-gore-climate-deadlines-and-miami-submersion-predictions.md

A 2006 prediction by Al Gore regarding a ten-year "point of no return" for climate change is revisited as the deadline arrives in 2016. Media outlets like The Verge continue to publish dire warnings about Miami being submerged by rising sea levels within 100 years. The reporting is criticized for using pop culture figures like Pitbull to sensationalize environmental data.

Keywords: [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), pitbull, [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md)

### South by Southwest Panel Cancellations, Gaming Harassment

- **Episode:** [769: Electile Dysfuntion](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/769-electile-dysfuntion.md)
- **Published:** 2015-10-29
- **Time:** 1:48:58–1:50:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/769-electile-dysfuntion/chapter/south-by-southwest-panel-cancellations-gaming-harassment.md

South by Southwest (SXSW) canceled two panels related to sexual harassment in the gaming industry following threats of violence. Media outlets like BuzzFeed and The Verge threatened to boycott the festival in response, leading the hosts to speculate if the controversy was a promotional stunt to drive ticket sales.

Keywords: [south by southwest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-by-southwest.md), [sxsw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sxsw.md), [gamergate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gamergate.md), [harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harassment.md), [buzzfeed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buzzfeed.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md)

### Nilay Patel, Apple Watch, and Fashion Industry Vocal Fry

- **Episode:** [712: Kalette](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/712-kalette.md)
- **Published:** 2015-04-12
- **Time:** 23:52–27:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/712-kalette/chapter/nilay-patel-apple-watch-and-fashion-industry-vocal-fry.md

Nilay Patel of Vox Media is featured in a clip discussing the Apple Watch with fashion editors from The Rack. The segment highlights the prevalence of vocal fry and uptalk among fashion industry professionals. The editors express skepticism about the Apple Watch's status as a design object while acknowledging its appeal to those who want to feel important.

Keywords: [nilay patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nilay-patel.md), [apple watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [vox media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vox-media.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md)

### Net Neutrality Skepticism, The Vergecast and Domestic Updates

- **Episode:** [695: Democritate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/695-democritate.md)
- **Published:** 2015-02-12
- **Time:** 1:36:38–1:42:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/695-democritate/chapter/net-neutrality-skepticism-the-vergecast-and-domestic-updates.md

A donor expresses skepticism toward the mainstream "net neutrality" narrative promoted by tech outlets like The Verge. Meanwhile, a new "Domestic Update" CD is announced as a companion to previous international updates. The segment concludes with a reminder of the upcoming Sunday broadcast and the "propagate the formula" call to action.

Keywords: [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [nilay patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nilay-patel.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

### Tech Freedom and the Net Neutrality "Hoax"

- **Episode:** [619: Droves of Jihadis](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/619-droves-of-jihadis.md)
- **Published:** 2014-05-26
- **Time:** 1:18:58–1:25:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/619-droves-of-jihadis/chapter/tech-freedom-and-the-net-neutrality-hoax.md

John C. Dvorak discusses a debate on the "This Week in Law" podcast featuring Berin Szoka of Tech Freedom and Nilay Patel of The Verge. Szoka characterized the net neutrality debate as a "hoax." Dvorak investigates Tech Freedom's funding, noting its status as a small non-profit likely supported by Google's "Big Tent" initiative.

Keywords: tech freedom, berin szoka, [nilay patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nilay-patel.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

### Whistleblower Awards, Salon Magazine and Digital Media Economics

- **Episode:** [548: Mournful Mortician](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/548-mournful-mortician.md)
- **Published:** 2013-09-15
- **Time:** 6:51–10:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/548-mournful-mortician/chapter/whistleblower-awards-salon-magazine-and-digital-media-economics.md

Edward Snowden received a Whistleblower of the Year award in Germany, with Jacob Appelbaum accepting on his behalf. Discussion turns to Salon Magazine's financial backing by the chairman of Adobe and its recent hit piece on New York Times columnist David Brooks. The economic viability of digital media outlets like The Verge and Boing Boing is questioned as venture capital and advertising models struggle.

Keywords: [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [jacob appelbaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-appelbaum.md), [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [salon magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salon-magazine.md), [adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md)

### Independent Media and Advertising Skepticism

- **Episode:** [493: Snowquestration](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration.md)
- **Published:** 2013-03-07
- **Time:** 1:02:28–1:05:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/independent-media-and-advertising-skepticism.md

The show is highlighted in an article as a top independent podcast that avoids the compromises inherent in advertising-supported media. By refusing corporate sponsorships, the hosts claim they maintain the freedom to criticize any industry, from gold to emergency preparedness gear. This independence is contrasted with other tech media outlets that may be influenced by their advertisers.

Keywords: [independent media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-media.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

### Cybersecurity Executive Order, Media Embargo Criticism

- **Episode:** [487: Red Bag of Poop](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/487-red-bag-of-poop.md)
- **Published:** 2013-02-15
- **Time:** 33:20–34:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/487-red-bag-of-poop/chapter/cybersecurity-executive-order-media-embargo-criticism.md

The hosts criticize alternative media outlets, specifically naming The Verge, for adhering to a White House embargo on the Cybersecurity Executive Order. They argue that holding the document until after the State of the Union address allowed the administration to bury significant policy changes under the cover of the speech.

Keywords: [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), media embargo

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