# Tamiflu on The No Agenda Show

Tamiflu comes up in 40 chapters across 36 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from July 2008 to February 2026.

- **Chapters:** 40
- **Episodes:** 36
- **Discussed:** July 2008 – February 2026
- **Related topics:** [Cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [Relenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relenza.md), [Swine Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), [Flu Shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [H1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [Pharmaceutical Industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), [Vitamin D3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamin-d3.md), [Roche](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roche.md), [Vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [World Health Organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 40

### 2017 Flu Retrospective, Jerry Pournelle

- **Episode:** [1843: Token Muncher](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1843-token-muncher.md)
- **Published:** 2026-02-15
- **Time:** 2:13:07–2:15:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1843-token-muncher/chapter/2017-flu-retrospective-jerry-pournelle.md

A discussion about the current flu season leads to a retrospective on the severe flu of 2017, which reportedly killed science fiction author Jerry Pournelle and others. The host describes using high doses of Vitamin D3 and Tamiflu to combat the illness. The current "bug" going around is compared to the early, pre-lockdown sickness of late 2019.

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### Livestock Compensation, Bird Flu Testing Incentives

- **Episode:** [1659: ungreen](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1659-ungreen.md)
- **Published:** 2024-05-12
- **Time:** 1:00:47–1:04:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1659-ungreen/chapter/livestock-compensation-bird-flu-testing-incentives.md

The USDA and CDC are developing plans to incentivize bird flu testing among cattle ranchers by offering financial compensation for culled herds. Currently, poultry farmers receive reimbursement for losses while cattle ranchers do not. The move aims to overcome rancher resistance to government testing on private property.

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### CDC Pandemic Preparedness, H5N1 Vaccine Stockpile

- **Episode:** [1649: Stay Alarmed](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1649-stay-alarmed.md)
- **Published:** 2024-04-07
- **Time:** 1:11:11–1:16:10
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1649-stay-alarmed/chapter/cdc-pandemic-preparedness-h5n1-vaccine-stockpile.md

CDC Director Mandy Cohen stated that the U.S. has been preparing for an avian flu outbreak for 20 years and maintains a stockpile of Tamiflu and vaccine candidates. While there is no evidence of human-to-human spread, the agency is working with the USDA to monitor farm workers and cattle. Cohen emphasized that the pasteurization process ensures the commercial milk supply remains safe for consumption.

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### Swine Flu Scandal, Council of Europe Pharmaceutical Investigation

- **Episode:** [1309: Vaxsaline](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1309-vaxsaline.md)
- **Published:** 2024-03-07
- **Time:** 5:17–9:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1309-vaxsaline/chapter/swine-flu-scandal-council-of-europe-pharmaceutical-investigation.md

A 2010 Channel 4 News report details accusations by the Council of Europe's health chief against pharmaceutical companies for inciting a "campaign of panic" during the 2009 swine flu pandemic. The investigation explores how the World Health Organization lowered pandemic thresholds, leading European nations to purchase millions of unwanted vaccine doses. Countries including France, Germany, and the Netherlands attempted to cancel massive contracts for the H1N1 vaccine and Tamiflu following the scandal.

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### Tamiflu and Relenza as Alternatives to Flu Vaccination

- **Episode:** [1625: Call me Bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1625-call-me-bill.md)
- **Published:** 2024-01-14
- **Time:** 1:10:29–1:14:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1625-call-me-bill/chapter/tamiflu-and-relenza-as-alternatives-to-flu-vaccination.md

The discussion shifts to antiviral treatments like Tamiflu and Relenza, which are noted for their effectiveness in stopping flu progression if taken early. It is observed that these treatments are rarely mentioned in mainstream news reports compared to vaccines. The segment also covers the process of how flu strains are selected for vaccines based on data from Australia.

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### Tamiflu Shortages and Non-Human Approved Vaccine Lipids

- **Episode:** [1512: Cash is Criminal](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1512-cash-is-criminal.md)
- **Published:** 2022-12-15
- **Time:** 2:00:45–2:05:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1512-cash-is-criminal/chapter/tamiflu-shortages-and-non-human-approved-vaccine-lipids.md

Pharmacies across the US are reporting severe shortages of Tamiflu and children's Tylenol during a worsening flu season. While Relenza is a viable alternative, it is rarely mentioned in mainstream media reports. Additionally, an industry whistleblower claims that two nano-lipids used in the Pfizer vaccine were never approved for human use and may be accumulating in the livers of recipients.

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### mRNA Vaccine Mechanics, Animal Trial Concerns

- **Episode:** [1315: Food and Drunk Administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1315-food-and-drunk-administration.md)
- **Published:** 2021-01-24
- **Time:** 55:42–1:01:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1315-food-and-drunk-administration/chapter/mrna-vaccine-mechanics-animal-trial-concerns.md

The mechanics of mRNA vaccines are explained as programming the body to produce a spike protein pathogen. Concerns are raised regarding "Antibody-Dependent Enhancement" (ADE), a phenomenon observed in past animal trials with SARS and MERS where vaccinated animals died after being challenged with the wild virus. The segment also touches on the use of Tamiflu as a standard antiviral treatment for influenza.

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### Daniel Dae Kim Treatment and Hydroxychloroquine Success

- **Episode:** [1228: Stunning](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning.md)
- **Published:** 2020-03-29
- **Time:** 2:17:27–2:20:00
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/daniel-dae-kim-treatment-and-hydroxychloroquine-success.md

Actor Daniel Dae Kim shares his recovery story on Instagram, detailing a drug cocktail that included hydroxychloroquine, Tamiflu, and a Z-pack. The hosts question why mainstream media outlets have not interviewed Kim or other high-profile individuals who have reported success with the treatment protocol.

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### Executive Producer Donations and COVID-19 Family Impacts

- **Episode:** [1225: Toilet Preppers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1225-toilet-preppers.md)
- **Published:** 2020-03-19
- **Time:** 1:17:33–1:24:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1225-toilet-preppers/chapter/executive-producer-donations-and-covid-19-family-impacts.md

Executive Producers Matthew Januszewski and Grand Duke Dwayne Melanson provided significant financial support to the show. A donation from "Dame Laura" detailed the personal toll of the pandemic, including the cancellation of SAT exams and varsity sports for her children in Virginia. The segment highlighted the frustration of parents dealing with school closures and the comparison of COVID-19 risks to the more common Influenza B, which her son contracted despite being vaccinated.

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### Measles Outbreaks, Vaccine Immunity and Personal Health Regimens

- **Episode:** [1116: GND-MOU-ROI](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1116-gnd-mou-roi.md)
- **Published:** 2019-03-01
- **Time:** 2:40:22–2:45:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1116-gnd-mou-roi/chapter/measles-outbreaks-vaccine-immunity-and-personal-health-regimens.md

The recent measles outbreaks in Washington State and New York were analyzed through the lens of pharmaceutical industry revenue and legal immunity. The hosts questioned the sudden re-emergence of an "eradicated" disease and shared personal health strategies, including the use of high-dose Vitamin D3 and Tamiflu, to manage viral infections without traditional flu shots.

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### Tamiflu Media Buy, Flu Season Health Reports

- **Episode:** [1003: Doomsday Sandwich](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1003-doomsday-sandwich.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-28
- **Time:** 1:45:01–1:48:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1003-doomsday-sandwich/chapter/tamiflu-media-buy-flu-season-health-reports.md

ABC News aired a segment heavily promoting Tamiflu as a prophylactic and effective treatment even 48 hours after symptoms appear, which the hosts characterized as a potential emergency media buy by Roche. This contrasts with previous reports and a 2009 BBC study suggesting Tamiflu may do more harm than good in children. The discussion highlighted the absence of flu shot recommendations in the recent ABC report in favor of antiviral medication.

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### Tamiflu Side Effects, Hallucinations and Vaccines

- **Episode:** [1001: Sexual Terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1001-sexual-terrorism.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-21
- **Time:** 1:22:21–1:25:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1001-sexual-terrorism/chapter/tamiflu-side-effects-hallucinations-and-vaccines.md

Reports of severe neuropsychiatric events in children taking Tamiflu, including hallucinations of "the devil," have resurfaced. A potential link is suggested between these reactions and the prior administration of the nasal spray flu vaccine.

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### War on Tamiflu, Pharmaceutical Side Effects and Flu Season

- **Episode:** [999: Nein Nein Nein](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/999-nein-nein-nein.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-18
- **Time:** 2:47:31–2:55:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/999-nein-nein-nein/chapter/war-on-tamiflu-pharmaceutical-side-effects-and-flu-season.md

John Dvorak declares a "War on Tamiflu," citing reports of severe side effects in children, including hallucinations and psychosis. He argues that the pharmaceutical industry and the government push flu shots over antiviral treatments for financial reasons. Despite the negative reports, Dvorak defends the efficacy of Tamiflu if taken within the first 48 hours of symptoms, while Curry reads a list of potential allergic reactions.

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### H3N2 Flu Outbreak, Relenza and Tamiflu Recommendations

- **Episode:** [998: Service Burro](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/998-service-burro.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-13
- **Time:** 1:27:23–1:32:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/998-service-burro/chapter/h3n2-flu-outbreak-relenza-and-tamiflu-recommendations.md

The CDC reports a severe H3N2 flu season with hospitalizations doubling in a week. While the flu shot is estimated to be only 30% effective this year, listeners are advised to keep antiviral medications like Relenza or Tamiflu on hand and to practice frequent handwashing as a primary defense.

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### 2017-2018 Flu Season Severity and Vaccine Efficacy

- **Episode:** [997: Competitive Victimhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/997-competitive-victimhood.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-07
- **Time:** 1:25:57–1:29:56
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/997-competitive-victimhood/chapter/2017-2018-flu-season-severity-and-vaccine-efficacy.md

The current flu season is reported to be widespread across 21 states, with the vaccine estimated to be only 10% effective against the dominant H3N2 strain. Despite the low efficacy, doctors continue to recommend the shot to lessen symptom severity. The hosts discuss personal experiences with the flu and the use of antivirals like Tamiflu and Relenza.

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### Host Health Update, Flu Symptoms, Russian Orthodox Christmas Dinner

- **Episode:** [685: Schwack the Nose](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/685-schwack-the-nose.md)
- **Published:** 2015-01-09
- **Time:** 7:04
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/685-schwack-the-nose/chapter/host-health-update-flu-symptoms-russian-orthodox-christmas-dinner.md

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing their recent illnesses, comparing symptoms of a widespread flu strain and the effectiveness of antivirals like Relenza and Tamiflu. Dvorak describes his recovery process, which included attending a traditional Russian Orthodox Christmas dinner at Russian House in Austin with Sir Gene, Earl of Texas. The hosts note the timing of the flu epidemic coinciding with the Consumer Electronics Show (CES).

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### Flu Vaccine Failure, CDC Apology

- **Episode:** [676: #955251](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/676-955251.md)
- **Published:** 2014-12-07
- **Time:** 2:33:17–2:40:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/676-955251/chapter/flu-vaccine-failure-cdc-apology.md

The CDC issued a rare apology, admitting that the 2014-2015 flu vaccine is largely ineffective because the virus mutated. Despite the failure, health officials are urging the use of antiviral drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza, which critics see as a sales pitch for pharmaceutical companies. The hosts discuss the side effects of these drugs and advocate for Vitamin D3 therapy as a more effective preventative measure.

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### H1N1 Flu Shot Promotion, CDC Pandemic Definitions

- **Episode:** [582: Eradicate Misery](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/582-eradicate-misery.md)
- **Published:** 2014-01-15
- **Time:** 2:28:43–2:35:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/582-eradicate-misery/chapter/h1n1-flu-shot-promotion-cdc-pandemic-definitions.md

A massive media push for H1N1 flu vaccinations is underway, with reports of long lines in Canada and "tragic" child deaths in the US. A CDC director appeared on CNN with Jake Tapper to recommend vaccinations for everyone over six months old, including a new suggestion that some children need two doses. The hosts question why a pandemic hasn't been officially declared yet and suggest the current "frenzy" is a marketing effort to sell existing vaccine and Tamiflu stockpiles.

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### Tamiflu Shortage, Global Outbreak Map

- **Episode:** [582: Eradicate Misery](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/582-eradicate-misery.md)
- **Published:** 2014-01-15
- **Time:** 2:35:52–2:38:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/582-eradicate-misery/chapter/tamiflu-shortage-global-outbreak-map.md

Reports of a Tamiflu shortage are circulating as the CDC claims the flu is "widespread" in two-thirds of the United States. However, a "global incident map" shows very few significant outbreaks outside of North America, with only isolated cases in places like Belize and Romania. This discrepancy suggests the "growing threat" narrative may be localized or exaggerated to drive pharmaceutical sales.

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### Tamiflu Pricing, Obamacare, Flexible Spending Accounts

- **Episode:** [581: Message from the Future](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/581-message-from-the-future.md)
- **Published:** 2014-01-09
- **Time:** 28:24–32:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/581-message-from-the-future/chapter/tamiflu-pricing-obamacare-flexible-spending-accounts.md

The cost of Tamiflu is reported to have risen significantly, with insurance adjustments under the Affordable Care Act allegedly making the drug more expensive for consumers. The hosts also criticize the bureaucracy of Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs), noting the difficulty of paying doctors compared to the ease of buying consumer goods on FSA-specific websites.

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