# Surge Pricing on The No Agenda Show Surge Pricing comes up in 6 chapters across 6 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from November 2014 to November 2019. - **Chapters:** 6 - **Episodes:** 6 - **Discussed:** November 2014 – November 2019 - **Related topics:** [Uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [Lyft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyft.md), [Algorithm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithm.md), [Algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md), [Ars Technica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ars-technica.md), [Artificial Intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [Australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [Autonomous Vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autonomous-vehicles.md), [Dunkin Donuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dunkin-donuts.md), [Dynamic Pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dynamic-pricing.md) ## Chapters 1–6 of 6 ### Uber App Technical Failure at Australian Horse Races - **Episode:** [1188: Greta Doomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1188-greta-doomberg.md) - **Published:** 2019-11-10 - **Time:** 1:47:39–1:49:51 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1188-greta-doomberg/chapter/uber-app-technical-failure-at-australian-horse-races.md A major technical glitch in the Uber app left tens of thousands of racegoers stranded at the Flemington Racecourse in Australia. The failure of dedicated pickup zones forced passengers to walk blocks away to book rides, often facing extreme surge pricing. Local reports indicated that traditional taxis became a cheaper and more reliable alternative during the outage. Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), flemington racecourse, [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), [technical glitch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-glitch.md) ### Uber Surge Pricing and Driver Compensation Disparity - **Episode:** [1168: Poop-in](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1168-poop-in.md) - **Published:** 2019-09-01 - **Time:** 2:12:54–2:16:37 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1168-poop-in/chapter/uber-surge-pricing-and-driver-compensation-disparity.md Reports indicate that Uber's surge pricing often results in significantly higher fares for passengers without a proportional increase in driver pay. In some cases, passengers are charged triple the standard rate while drivers receive only a small fraction of the additional revenue. Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [lyft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyft.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md), [ars technica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ars-technica.md) ### Uber Dynamic Pricing and Surge Transparency Changes - **Episode:** [1063: Furternity](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1063-furternity.md) - **Published:** 2018-08-30 - **Time:** 8:39–11:29 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1063-furternity/chapter/uber-dynamic-pricing-and-surge-transparency-changes.md A conversation with a retired Uber driver in Chicago revealed that the Uber app no longer explicitly states when surge pricing is in effect for riders. The system reportedly uses dynamic pricing based on a rider's perceived price tolerance and plays the "spread" between what the rider pays and what the driver receives. Drivers are advised to reject initial quotes to potentially trigger a lower fare. Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), [dynamic pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dynamic-pricing.md), [ride sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ride-sharing.md), [algorithm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithm.md) ### AI Limitations, Uber Driver Surge Pricing Hack - **Episode:** [954: Rasiss](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/954-rasiss.md) - **Published:** 2017-08-11 - **Time:** 2:44:48–2:48:57 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/954-rasiss/chapter/ai-limitations-uber-driver-surge-pricing-hack.md The limitations of current AI and LIDAR systems are highlighted by their inability to reliably distinguish stop signs from speed limit signs. In a separate tech story, Uber drivers are reportedly "hacking" the company's algorithm by logging out simultaneously to trigger surge pricing. The segment also mentions Dunkin' Donuts' plan to rebrand simply as "Dunkin'." Keywords: [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [lidar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lidar.md), [autonomous vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autonomous-vehicles.md), [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), [dunkin donuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dunkin-donuts.md) ### Uber Crackdown, Single Mothers and Driver Ratings - **Episode:** [686: Fifth Column](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column.md) - **Published:** 2015-01-12 - **Time:** 2:35:52–2:38:36 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/uber-crackdown-single-mothers-and-driver-ratings.md Research from a producer in Santa Barbara highlights the increasing pressure on Uber and Lyft drivers, including the requirement to maintain a 4.8-star rating to avoid being fired. While the services were initially a boon for single mothers seeking flexible hours, the "crackdown" on driver statistics and negative reactions to surge pricing are creating a hostile environment. The hosts predict the competition between services will "get very ugly" soon. Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [lyft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyft.md), [santa barbara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-barbara.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), flexible hours ### Uber Experience in New York City, Surge Pricing - **Episode:** [670: Terrorist Narrative](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative.md) - **Published:** 2014-11-19 - **Time:** 8:41–11:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/uber-experience-in-new-york-city-surge-pricing.md The hosts recount their first experience using Uber in New York City after arriving at JFK Airport. They discuss the lack of price transparency, the 1.3x surge pricing encountered, and the contrast between the app's convenience and the traditional yellow cab industry. 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