# Software Engineering on The No Agenda Show

Software Engineering comes up in 10 chapters across 10 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2008 to March 2026.

- **Chapters:** 10
- **Episodes:** 10
- **Discussed:** February 2008 – March 2026
- **Related topics:** [Apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [Agi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agi.md), [Airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [Artificial Intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [Audio Engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md), [Automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [Big Data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md), [Creativity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creativity.md), [Daily Source Code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-source-code.md), [Daniel Suarez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-suarez.md)

## Chapters 1–10 of 10

### Software Engineering and AI, Shifting Artistic Satisfaction

- **Episode:** [1849: Hose Water](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1849-hose-water.md)
- **Published:** 2026-03-08
- **Time:** 2:27:45–2:31:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1849-hose-water/chapter/software-engineering-and-ai-shifting-artistic-satisfaction.md

The hosts discuss the impact of AI on software engineering, noting that while it allows non-coders to ship products, it destroys the artistic satisfaction for professional developers. Open AI's Sam Altman reportedly moved to secure military contracts following Anthropic's exit. Adam Curry observes that the "art" of coding is being replaced by button-pressing, leading to a loss of fulfillment in the creative process.

Keywords: [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [open ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-ai.md), [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), [python](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/python.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [creativity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creativity.md)

### Microsoft AI CEO, Future of White Collar Automation

- **Episode:** [1842: A Dog A Day](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1842-a-dog-a-day.md)
- **Published:** 2026-02-12
- **Time:** 49:07–58:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1842-a-dog-a-day/chapter/microsoft-ai-ceo-future-of-white-collar-automation.md

The CEO of Microsoft AI predicts that most professional white-collar tasks, including law and accounting, will be fully automated within 12 to 18 months. Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly struggling to integrate similar AI capabilities into Siri, with internal testing revealing accuracy and latency issues that may delay features until 2026 or 2027. The shift in software engineering is described as moving from code production to strategic architecture.

Keywords: microsoft ai, [agi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agi.md), [superintelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/superintelligence.md), [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [siri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siri.md), [ios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ios.md)

### Job Seekers, Software Engineering and Gaucho Woodworking

- **Episode:** [1715: Scruples](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1715-scruples.md)
- **Published:** 2024-11-24
- **Time:** 3:07:36–3:10:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1715-scruples/chapter/job-seekers-software-engineering-and-gaucho-woodworking.md

A plea for help from a laid-off software engineer in San Diego named Matt is read; he is seeking referrals or hiring managers after eight months of searching. Other donors, including Gaucho Woodworking in Redondo Beach, are thanked. The hosts provide "Jobs Karma" for all producers currently seeking employment.

Keywords: [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), [gaucho woodworking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaucho-woodworking.md), [job search](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-search.md), cissp, [referrals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/referrals.md)

### Google Cat Litter Box, Nathan Winder Story

- **Episode:** [1469: The Nurge](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1469-the-nurge.md)
- **Published:** 2022-07-17
- **Time:** 1:52:42–1:56:30
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1469-the-nurge/chapter/google-cat-litter-box-nathan-winder-story.md

Nathan Winder, a former Google engineer, shares an anecdote about a management off-site where a hypothetical scenario involved an employee identifying as a cat. Winder's "malicious compliance" response regarding animal control and toxoplasmosis revealed that Google had actually provided a litter box for a real employee.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md), cat identity, software engineer, stilwell kansas

### Neil Ferguson, Imperial College Model Code Review

- **Episode:** [1240: Meat Must Flow](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow.md)
- **Published:** 2020-05-10
- **Time:** 23:36–27:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/neil-ferguson-imperial-college-model-code-review.md

Neil Ferguson resigned from the UK's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) after violating lockdown protocols to meet a romantic partner. A professional code review of Ferguson’s influential pandemic model by the group "Lockdown Skeptics" revealed significant software engineering flaws, including non-repeatable outputs and a lack of regression testing. The review characterized the model as "stochastic," meaning its results are largely determined by random variables.

Keywords: [neil ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-ferguson.md), imperial college london, lockdown skeptics, [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), stochastic modeling

### Software Arrogance and Artificial Intelligence Risks in Aviation

- **Episode:** [1122: Cyclogenesis](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1122-cyclogenesis.md)
- **Published:** 2019-03-21
- **Time:** 19:38–22:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1122-cyclogenesis/chapter/software-arrogance-and-artificial-intelligence-risks-in-aviation.md

A discussion on the dangers of "software arrogance" suggests that the Boeing 737 MAX issues stem from a belief that complex flight characteristics can be corrected solely through code. The trend toward autonomous aircraft and fly-by-wire systems is criticized for removing pilot agency. Comparisons are drawn to previous Airbus accidents and the Uber/Waymo self-driving car fatality in Arizona.

Keywords: [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), [fly-by-wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fly-by-wire.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), autonomous aircraft

### Knighting Ceremony for Sir Lucas of Lost Bits

- **Episode:** [918: Kim Jong Yum Yum](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/918-kim-jong-yum-yum.md)
- **Published:** 2017-04-06
- **Time:** 2:12:12–2:14:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/918-kim-jong-yum-yum/chapter/knighting-ceremony-for-sir-lucas-of-lost-bits.md

Lucas Lundy is knighted as "Sir Lucas of Lost Bits" after years of listening and finally securing a software engineering position. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, granting him a seat at the No Agenda roundtable and reciting the list of "perks" associated with the title.

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### Volkswagen Emissions Scandal, Congressional Testimony

- **Episode:** [764: Can You See That Juice?](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/764-can-you-see-that-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2015-10-11
- **Time:** 2:16:25–2:20:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/764-can-you-see-that-juice/chapter/volkswagen-emissions-scandal-congressional-testimony.md

Volkswagen U.S. CEO Michael Horn testified before Congress regarding the company's use of "defeat devices" to cheat emissions tests. Horn admitted the company provided false information to regulators but claimed senior management had no knowledge of the scheme. He attributed the software manipulation to a small group of engineers, a claim the hosts find difficult to believe.

Keywords: [volkswagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volkswagen.md), michael horn, [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [emissions testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emissions-testing.md), software engineers

### Daniel Suarez, Research Methods and Disruptive Technology Trends

- **Episode:** [534: The Interview Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/534-the-interview-show.md)
- **Published:** 2013-07-28
- **Time:** 5:40–9:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/534-the-interview-show/chapter/daniel-suarez-research-methods-and-disruptive-technology-trends.md

Daniel Suarez details his background as a software engineer and how his experience in IT and defense informs his writing process. He describes his research methodology, which involves combining consumer technology, DIY drone trends, and rumors of military prototypes to predict near-future disruptive technologies. Suarez notes that real-world systems like Gorgon Stare are often overlooked by mainstream media despite their significant impact on society.

Keywords: [daniel suarez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-suarez.md), [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md), [gorgon stare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gorgon-stare.md), tech thrillers, diy drones

### Mac Audio Software Frustrations, Apple Updates

- **Episode:** [17: Gold Toe Socks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/17-gold-toe-socks.md)
- **Published:** 2008-02-15
- **Time:** 25:51–29:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/17-gold-toe-socks/chapter/mac-audio-software-frustrations-apple-updates.md

Curry expresses extreme frustration with his Macintosh-based recording setup, noting that it worked perfectly for his Daily Source Code podcast earlier that day but is failing during No Agenda. Dvorak suggests that a recent Apple software update might be the cause of the audio crackling. Curry laments the lack of a reliable, all-in-one portable digital processing solution for podcasters.

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