# Smart Cards on The No Agenda Show

Smart Cards comes up in 8 chapters across 8 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2008 to September 2022.

- **Chapters:** 8
- **Episodes:** 8
- **Discussed:** February 2008 – September 2022
- **Related topics:** [1984](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1984.md), [At&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [Banking Fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking-fraud.md), [Cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [Contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contractors.md), [Energy Grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-grid.md), [George Orwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-orwell.md), [Gift Cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gift-cards.md), [Hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [Liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md)

## Chapters 1–8 of 8

### Appalachian Power Thermostat Control Program

- **Episode:** [1487: Si Senor](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1487-si-senor.md)
- **Published:** 2022-09-18
- **Time:** 2:34:12–2:36:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1487-si-senor/chapter/appalachian-power-thermostat-control-program.md

Appalachian Power is offering customers a $50 gift card to enroll in the "Take Charge" program, which allows the utility to remotely adjust home thermostats during peak demand periods. Participants receive an additional $25 annually for remaining in the program.

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### Smart Cards, NFC Technology and the Death of Privacy

- **Episode:** [1405: No Shields, No Deals](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1405-no-shields-no-deals.md)
- **Published:** 2021-12-06
- **Time:** 1:22:47–1:25:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1405-no-shields-no-deals/chapter/smart-cards-nfc-technology-and-the-death-of-privacy.md

The hosts reflect on the 1980s marketing of "smart cards," which were promised to simplify life by combining IDs, passports, and medical records. This technology has evolved into the modern NFC-enabled smartphone. They recall Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy's famous quote that "privacy is for pussies," noting how the public has largely accepted the total loss of privacy for convenience.

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### Smart Card History and Utopian Technology

- **Episode:** [1334: Kackling Kamala](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1334-kackling-kamala.md)
- **Published:** 2021-04-01
- **Time:** 47:37–51:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1334-kackling-kamala/chapter/smart-card-history-and-utopian-technology.md

The concept of a single card containing all personal, medical, and financial data was viewed as a utopian convenience in the 1980s. References were made to AT&T's "You Will" commercials featuring Tom Selleck, which predicted mobile computing and remote communication. However, the modern reality of data tracking has shifted public perception toward the dystopian surveillance themes found in George Orwell's 1984.

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### Smart Card History, Satellite Hacking, Electrical Pulses

- **Episode:** [1290: Hairy Legs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1290-hairy-legs.md)
- **Published:** 2020-10-31
- **Time:** 58:28–1:01:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1290-hairy-legs/chapter/smart-card-history-satellite-hacking-electrical-pulses.md

A historical retrospective on smart card technology explains why it took decades to gain traction in the United States due to patent issues and credit card company interests. An anecdote is shared about the 1980s satellite hacking era, where users used "gold cards" to bypass decoders. Satellite companies eventually countered this by sending electrical pulses to literally "blow up" and warp the unauthorized cards.

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### CIA Vending Machine Scandal and Smart Card Hacking

- **Episode:** [941: Shmoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/941-shmoo.md)
- **Published:** 2017-06-25
- **Time:** 1:44:45–1:47:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/941-shmoo/chapter/cia-vending-machine-scandal-and-smart-card-hacking.md

A minor scandal at the CIA involved contractors who developed a method to steal $3,000 worth of snacks from vending machines over six months. The scheme involved unhooking the machines from the internet to prevent smart cards from verifying funds. The hosts compare the creative theft to tactics described in Abbie Hoffman's "Steal This Book."

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### The War on Cash and Smart Card Train Platforms

- **Episode:** [642: Walking Bear](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/642-walking-bear.md)
- **Published:** 2014-08-10
- **Time:** 2:55:34–2:59:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/642-walking-bear/chapter/the-war-on-cash-and-smart-card-train-platforms.md

A report on the "War on Cash" in the Netherlands, where a train station in Woerden has become the first to close its platforms to anyone without a smart card. The hosts argue this is a forced transition away from physical currency, noting the difficulties this creates for tourists and the loss of privacy in public transit.

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### European Smart Cards and Bank Liability Shifts

- **Episode:** [474: Mongolian Hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/474-mongolian-hat.md)
- **Published:** 2012-12-30
- **Time:** 11:31–18:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/474-mongolian-hat/chapter/european-smart-cards-and-bank-liability-shifts.md

The hosts analyze the transition from magnetic stripe cards to EMV smart cards in Europe and the United States. They argue that the shift to PIN-based chips is a "banker scam" designed to move the legal liability for fraudulent charges from the financial institutions to the individual citizens.

Keywords: [smart cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-cards.md), pin, [banking fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking-fraud.md), [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [mechanics bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mechanics-bank.md)

### Smart Card Technology, US vs European Payment Systems

- **Episode:** [16: Start Using Canteens](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/16-start-using-canteens.md)
- **Published:** 2008-02-10
- **Time:** 43:50–46:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/16-start-using-canteens/chapter/smart-card-technology-us-vs-european-payment-systems.md

The adoption of smart card technology with embedded chips has been significantly slower in the United States compared to Europe. While European restaurants use handheld wireless devices for instant chip-and-pin transactions, American systems still rely heavily on magnetic stripe swipes. Speculation suggests that French-held patents on the technology may be a factor in the delayed implementation by American financial institutions.

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