# Robert Kagan on The No Agenda Show

Robert Kagan comes up in 21 chapters across 21 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from June 2012 to January 2025.

- **Chapters:** 21
- **Episodes:** 21
- **Discussed:** June 2012 – January 2025
- **Related topics:** [Victoria Nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [Pnac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pnac.md), [State Department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [Syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [Bill Kristol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-kristol.md), [Brookings Institution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brookings-institution.md), [Elena Kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [John Mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [John Roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-roberts.md), [Neocons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neocons.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 21

### Supreme Court TikTok Arguments and Blackmail Theories

- **Episode:** [1729: Algo Chasers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers.md)
- **Published:** 2025-01-12
- **Time:** 1:25:05–1:32:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/supreme-court-tiktok-arguments-and-blackmail-theories.md

The Supreme Court hears arguments regarding TikTok's First Amendment rights, with Chief Justice John Roberts questioning if the law targets speech or foreign control. Justice Brett Kavanaugh expresses concern over the potential for the Chinese government to use TikTok data to blackmail future U.S. officials or military personnel. NPR highlights theories that videos of teenagers today could be "weaponized" against them decades later when they seek government employment.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [john roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-roberts.md), [elena kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [brett kavanaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brett-kavanaugh.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

### Washington Post Non-Endorsement, Jeff Bezos Business Interests

- **Episode:** [1707: Sweet Seventeen](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1707-sweet-seventeen.md)
- **Published:** 2024-10-27
- **Time:** 53:28–1:02:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1707-sweet-seventeen/chapter/washington-post-non-endorsement-jeff-bezos-business-interests.md

The Washington Post announced it would not endorse a presidential candidate for the first time in decades, leading to the resignation of editor-at-large Robert Kagan and thousands of subscription cancellations. The decision is analyzed alongside a similar move by the LA Times, with speculation that owners Jeff Bezos and Patrick Soon-Shiong are protecting federal business interests.

Keywords: [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [jeff bezos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-bezos.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [la times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/la-times.md), [endorsements](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/endorsements.md)

### Supreme Court Blocks Biden's Student Loan Forgiveness

- **Episode:** [1569: Hydrating](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1569-hydrating.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-02
- **Time:** 2:26:41–2:29:56
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1569-hydrating/chapter/supreme-court-blocks-biden-s-student-loan-forgiveness.md

The Supreme Court blocks President Biden's plan to cancel $430 billion in student loan debt, ruling the administration overstepped its authority. Chief Justice Roberts argues the Education Secretary cannot rewrite statutes without Congressional approval. Biden vows to try again using the Higher Education Act, while Republicans celebrate the ruling as a victory for fairness toward those who already paid their loans.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [student loans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-loans.md), [john roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-roberts.md), [elena kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), higher education act, [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md)

### Robert Kagan, Liberal World Order and ISIS Threats

- **Episode:** [776: Climate Justice Cancelled](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/776-climate-justice-cancelled.md)
- **Published:** 2015-11-22
- **Time:** 54:03–59:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/776-climate-justice-cancelled/chapter/robert-kagan-liberal-world-order-and-isis-threats.md

Neoconservative scholar Robert Kagan writes in the Wall Street Journal about a "crisis of world order," arguing that US reluctance to deploy power has weakened the "liberal world order." Kagan claims the threat of an ISIS attack on an American city is a new development, a claim the hosts dismiss as "fear porn" and recycled propaganda. The segment notes Kagan's family ties to the "war lobby" and the State Department.

Keywords: [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [liberal world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberal-world-order.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [fear porn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fear-porn.md)

### Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, and State Department Strife

- **Episode:** [775: Fear is the Product](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/775-fear-is-the-product.md)
- **Published:** 2015-11-19
- **Time:** 30:55–33:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/775-fear-is-the-product/chapter/victoria-nuland-robert-kagan-and-state-department-strife.md

The hosts track the movements of State Department official Victoria Nuland, noting a correlation between her visits and regional strife, specifically in Montenegro. They discuss her marriage to Robert Kagan and their ties to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [montenegro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montenegro.md), [pnac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pnac.md)

### Greater Kurdistan, Syrian Transition and Neoconservative Strategy

- **Episode:** [772: Grim Math](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/772-grim-math.md)
- **Published:** 2015-11-09
- **Time:** 1:44:47–1:47:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/772-grim-math/chapter/greater-kurdistan-syrian-transition-and-neoconservative-strategy.md

The hosts analyze U.S. strategy in Syria, suggesting the ultimate goal is the creation of a "Greater Kurdistan" and a three-state solution. They argue that Victoria Nuland and her husband, Robert Kagan, are executing a long-standing neoconservative plan to remove Bashar al-Assad. The discussion posits that the U.S. is using Russia as a "spoiler" to justify continued military intervention.

Keywords: [kurdistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurdistan.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [damascus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damascus.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md)

### Rand Paul Interview, Megyn Kelly, and the Kagan Family

- **Episode:** [712: Kalette](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/712-kalette.md)
- **Published:** 2015-04-12
- **Time:** 1:25:05–1:28:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/712-kalette/chapter/rand-paul-interview-megyn-kelly-and-the-kagan-family.md

In an interview with Megyn Kelly, Rand Paul refuses to name specific "neocons" he disagrees with, leading the hosts to call him a "pussy." They identify the Kagan family, including Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland, as the primary architects of the interventionist policies Paul opposes. The segment highlights the continuity of neoconservative influence from the Bush administration into the Obama era.

Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [neocons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neocons.md)

### Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, Robert Kagan and John McCain

- **Episode:** [676: #955251](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/676-955251.md)
- **Published:** 2014-12-07
- **Time:** 7:22–12:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/676-955251/chapter/pearl-harbor-remembrance-day-robert-kagan-and-john-mccain.md

On December 7, 2014, National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, a foreign policy seminar featured Robert Kagan and Senator John McCain. Kagan, a prominent neoconservative married to Victoria Nuland, introduced McCain as a statesman. McCain is set to become the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee in the upcoming Congress.

Keywords: [pearl harbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pearl-harbor.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [senate armed services committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-armed-services-committee.md), [neoconservatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neoconservatives.md)

### Institute of Modern Russia, Non-Linear War and Information Weaponization

- **Episode:** [674: Non-linear War](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/674-non-linear-war.md)
- **Published:** 2014-11-30
- **Time:** 32:47–38:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/674-non-linear-war/chapter/institute-of-modern-russia-non-linear-war-and-information-weaponization.md

A white paper from the Institute of Modern Russia titled "The Menace of Unreality" describes how the Kremlin allegedly weaponizes information and culture. The report introduces the concept of "non-linear war" and accuses Russia of sowing confusion in the West through social media trolls and alternative media.

Keywords: institute of modern russia, [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [bill kristol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-kristol.md), non-linear war, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

### Foreign Policy Initiative, Obama and The Indispensable Nation

- **Episode:** [659: Mirific!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/659-mirific.md)
- **Published:** 2014-10-15
- **Time:** 5:04–14:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/659-mirific/chapter/foreign-policy-initiative-obama-and-the-indispensable-nation.md

The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI), a neoconservative think tank featuring Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan, released a document labeling the United States the "indispensable nation." President Barack Obama recently adopted this specific terminology during a meeting at the Pentagon with Chuck Hagel and General Martin Dempsey. The FPI executive summary explicitly calls for the repeal of defense cuts under the 2011 Budget Control Act to maintain global military leadership.

Keywords: [foreign policy initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-policy-initiative.md), [bill kristol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-kristol.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [sequestration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequestration.md), budget control act

### Syria Strategy, Removing Bashar al-Assad

- **Episode:** [655: Network of Death](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/655-network-of-death.md)
- **Published:** 2014-09-25
- **Time:** 1:25:01–1:29:28
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/655-network-of-death/chapter/syria-strategy-removing-bashar-al-assad.md

A panel of former officials and neoconservative thinkers, including Michael Morell and Robert Kagan, agree that removing Bashar al-Assad is the ultimate goal in Syria. Morell accidentally mentions "Saddam" while discussing the need to maintain the Syrian military's stability after Assad's eventual departure.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [michael morell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-morell.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [joe lieberman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-lieberman.md)

### Robert Kagan's Call for Military Force, 1930s Comparisons

- **Episode:** [650: Summer of Blood](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/650-summer-of-blood.md)
- **Published:** 2014-09-07
- **Time:** 1:27:35–1:34:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/650-summer-of-blood/chapter/robert-kagan-s-call-for-military-force-1930s-comparisons.md

Neoconservative scholar Robert Kagan published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal titled "America's Dangerous Aversion to Conflict," arguing that the U.S. must embrace "raw power" to maintain world order. Kagan compares the current geopolitical climate to the 1930s, citing the actions of Vladimir Putin and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as threats that require a hard military response. The hosts characterize Kagan as a "terrorist" for his aggressive warmongering stance.

Keywords: [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [brookings institution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brookings-institution.md), warmongering, [1930s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1930s.md)

### Robert Kagan and the Neoconservative World Order

- **Episode:** [633: Reverse the Curse](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/633-reverse-the-curse.md)
- **Published:** 2014-07-10
- **Time:** 56:33–1:07:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/633-reverse-the-curse/chapter/robert-kagan-and-the-neoconservative-world-order.md

Robert Kagan's essay, "The Allure of Normalcy," is analyzed as a foundational text for modern neoconservative foreign policy. The discussion critiques the interventionist stance that the United States must act as the "locomotive" of mankind to prevent global disorder. Connections are drawn between the Kagan family, Victoria Nuland, and ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.

Keywords: [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), [neoconservatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neoconservatives.md), project for the new american century, [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [isolationism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isolationism.md)

### Neocon Influence, Kagan Family Network

- **Episode:** [627: Scam Celebrities](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/627-scam-celebrities.md)
- **Published:** 2014-06-19
- **Time:** 47:24–50:04
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/627-scam-celebrities/chapter/neocon-influence-kagan-family-network.md

The Kagan family is identified as a central hub of Neoconservative influence spanning multiple administrations. Robert Kagan was a key figure in the Project for a New American Century, while his wife, Victoria Nuland, serves in the State Department. The family's reach through various institutes and government positions suggests a persistent "war party" agenda that transcends partisan lines.

Keywords: [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [neocon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neocon.md), [project for a new american century](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-for-a-new-american-century.md), [bush administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bush-administration.md), [foreign policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-policy.md)

### John McCain, ISIS Crisis and the Kagan Family Influence

- **Episode:** [626: Preemptive Prosecution](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/626-preemptive-prosecution.md)
- **Published:** 2014-06-15
- **Time:** 59:29–1:03:23
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/626-preemptive-prosecution/chapter/john-mccain-isis-crisis-and-the-kagan-family-influence.md

Senator John McCain's calls for a new national security team to address the ISIS (ISIL) threat in Iraq are analyzed, specifically his promotion of the Kagan family and the Institute for the Study of War. The discussion highlights the deep ties between the Kagans and the neoconservative movement, noting that Robert Kagan's wife, Victoria Nuland, serves in the State Department. McCain's assertion that the previous strategy "won the war" is met with skepticism.

Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), kimberly kagan, [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [institute for the study of war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/institute-for-the-study-of-war.md)

### Victoria Nuland and the Transatlantic Renaissance

- **Episode:** [623: Fact Pattern](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/623-fact-pattern.md)
- **Published:** 2014-06-08
- **Time:** 44:32–50:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/623-fact-pattern/chapter/victoria-nuland-and-the-transatlantic-renaissance.md

Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland delivers a speech calling for a "transatlantic renaissance" and increased military readiness in Europe's periphery. The hosts highlight her marriage to Robert Kagan and mock her effusive public thanks to him, where she refers to him as her "Mars, Venus, and Planet Earth." They question the mental state of officials managing Eurasian affairs.

Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), eurasian affairs, [department of state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-state.md), transatlantic renaissance, [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md)

### Flight 370 Skepticism, Ukraine Neocons, Victoria Nuland

- **Episode:** [602: twitter mwitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/602-twitter-mwitter.md)
- **Published:** 2014-04-05
- **Time:** 34:16–36:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/602-twitter-mwitter/chapter/flight-370-skepticism-ukraine-neocons-victoria-nuland.md

The dinner conversation shifted to geopolitical skepticism regarding the missing MH370 flight and the conflict in Ukraine. The host challenged the "O-Bots" by linking the Ukraine situation to Neoconservative figures like Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan.

Keywords: [flight 370](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-370.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [project for a new american century](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-for-a-new-american-century.md)

### Foreign Policy Initiative, Liz Wall Resignation Setup

- **Episode:** [601: Pilots of Terror](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror.md)
- **Published:** 2014-03-20
- **Time:** 34:22–37:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/foreign-policy-initiative-liz-wall-resignation-setup.md

Evidence suggests the resignation of RT anchor Liz Wall was a coordinated event involving the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI). FPI's Twitter account predicted "something big" would happen at RT minutes before the resignation, and board member James Kirchick published an exclusive interview with Wall immediately following the event.

Keywords: fpi, [james kirchick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-kirchick.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [liz wall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liz-wall.md)

### Victoria Nuland and Neocon Influence, Robert Kagan

- **Episode:** [597: Prison Prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/597-prison-prep.md)
- **Published:** 2014-03-06
- **Time:** 50:10–53:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/597-prison-prep/chapter/victoria-nuland-and-neocon-influence-robert-kagan.md

The hosts discuss Victoria Nuland's role in the Ukraine crisis and her marriage to Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). They argue that a "neocon" faction within the State Department is driving a policy of NATO expansion that has sidelined President Obama.

Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [neocons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neocons.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [pnac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pnac.md)

### Victoria Nuland's Background and PNAC Connections

- **Episode:** [590: Jelly Side Up](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/590-jelly-side-up.md)
- **Published:** 2014-02-09
- **Time:** 1:14:47–1:17:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/590-jelly-side-up/chapter/victoria-nuland-s-background-and-pnac-connections.md

The hosts examine Victoria Nuland's professional pedigree, noting her education at Brown University and her marriage to Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). They link her current actions in Ukraine to the long-term neoconservative goals of "rubalizing" countries and expanding US influence in the former Soviet sphere.

Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [pnac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pnac.md), [brookings institution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brookings-institution.md), [yale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yale.md), neoconservatism

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