# Recursion on The No Agenda Show Recursion comes up in 5 chapters across 5 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2016 to September 2026. - **Chapters:** 5 - **Episodes:** 5 - **Discussed:** February 2016 – September 2026 - **Related topics:** [Copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [Entropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entropy.md), [Lex Friedman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lex-friedman.md), [Logic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logic.md), [Marketplace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketplace.md), [Minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md), [Model Collapse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/model-collapse.md), [Npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [Oxford English Dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-english-dictionary.md), [Php](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/php.md) ## Chapters 1–5 of 5 ### Recursive Self-Improvement and Corporate AI Frustrations - **Episode:** [1903: Non-Practicing](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1903-non-practicing.md) - **Published:** 2026-09-13 - **Time:** 1:24:05–1:28:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1903-non-practicing/chapter/recursive-self-improvement-and-corporate-ai-frustrations.md The hosts analyze the concept of "recursive self-improvement" in AI, expressing skepticism that it will lead to superintelligence due to digital entropy. They discuss "vibe coding" and the frustrations of corporate IT departments dealing with buggy, AI-generated code. A story is shared about an interior designer threatening to fire clients who use ChatGPT for project ideas. Keywords: recursive ai, [entropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entropy.md), corporate it, [vibe coding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vibe-coding.md), alignment ### P-Doom, Sentient AI, and the "Techno-Douche" Perspective - **Episode:** [1610: p-doom](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom.md) - **Published:** 2023-11-23 - **Time:** 1:24:31–1:33:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom/chapter/p-doom-sentient-ai-and-the-techno-douche-perspective.md Interim OpenAI CEO Emmet Shear and various venture capitalists are critiqued for their "P-Doom" (probability of doom) theories regarding sentient AI. Shear argues that AI could eventually self-improve at a rate that threatens human existence, a concept the hosts dismiss as a mathematical fallacy based on "recursion." Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Lex Fridman are also mentioned for their warnings about AI enslavement. Keywords: emmet sheer, p-doom, sentient ai, [recursion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recursion.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [lex friedman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lex-friedman.md) ### AI Model Collapse, Recursive Training, NPR Marketplace - **Episode:** [1593: Beast Train](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1593-beast-train.md) - **Published:** 2023-09-24 - **Time:** 2:48:31–2:54:55 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1593-beast-train/chapter/ai-model-collapse-recursive-training-npr-marketplace.md A segment from NPR's Marketplace explains the concept of "model collapse," where AI systems trained on AI-generated content become increasingly deranged over generations. This recursive feedback loop is compared to photocopying a photocopy until the original image is unrecognizable. The only proposed solution is hiring humans to write original "prose" to freshen the training data. Keywords: [model collapse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/model-collapse.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [marketplace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketplace.md), recursive ai, training data ### Dictionary Copyright, Oxford English Dictionary, Definition Recursion - **Episode:** [1251: Viewpoint Discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1251-viewpoint-discrimination.md) - **Published:** 2020-06-18 - **Time:** 6:10–10:04 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1251-viewpoint-discrimination/chapter/dictionary-copyright-oxford-english-dictionary-definition-recursion.md The new Merriam-Webster definition of racism is criticized for being recursive by using the word racism within its own definition. Dictionaries are copyrighted works that require specific documentation and proof for every entry, making the Oxford English Dictionary the primary authority for linguistic standards. Keywords: [oxford english dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-english-dictionary.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [recursion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recursion.md), [logic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logic.md), lexicography ### Super Bowl Sunday and Programmer Humor - **Episode:** [796: Bomb Denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/796-bomb-denmark.md) - **Published:** 2016-02-05 - **Time:** 1:10:46–1:14:56 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/796-bomb-denmark/chapter/super-bowl-sunday-and-programmer-humor.md Douglas Kuhlman, a "Minute Man" from Minnesota, donates for his 69th birthday and expresses concern that donations will drop during Super Bowl Sunday. The segment includes a classic programmer joke about recursion and a discussion about the loyalty of long-term "tech weenie" listeners. 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