# Private Aviation on The No Agenda Show Private Aviation comes up in 8 chapters across 8 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from January 2008 to September 2020. - **Chapters:** 8 - **Episodes:** 8 - **Discussed:** January 2008 – September 2020 - **Related topics:** [Aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [Paul Allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), [Private Jets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-jets.md), [Tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [Air Force One](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [Amish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amish.md), [Background Checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), [Barack Obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [Barbara Walters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-walters.md), [Cessna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cessna.md) ## Chapters 1–8 of 8 ### Otto Aviation Celera 500L and Laminar Flow - **Episode:** [1279: RBG Down!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1279-rbg-down.md) - **Published:** 2020-09-23 - **Time:** 2:07:15–2:12:27 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1279-rbg-down/chapter/otto-aviation-celera-500l-and-laminar-flow.md Otto Aviation has unveiled the Celera 500L, a new aircraft that utilizes "laminar flow" to drastically reduce drag and fuel costs. The plane reportedly operates at $328 per hour compared to $2,500 for traditional jets. With a 4,500 nautical mile range and a 60,000-foot ceiling, the "flying pickle" could revolutionize regional private aviation. Keywords: otto aviation, celera 500l, laminar flow, [private aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md), [fuel efficiency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fuel-efficiency.md) ### Presidential Perks, Air Force One and TSA Exemptions - **Episode:** [473: Mac and Cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/473-mac-and-cheese.md) - **Published:** 2012-12-27 - **Time:** 22:31–25:10 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/473-mac-and-cheese/chapter/presidential-perks-air-force-one-and-tsa-exemptions.md President Obama cited not having to take off his shoes for airport security as a top presidential perk. The hosts mock the elitism of the President and Barbara Walters, noting their disconnect from the travel experiences of average citizens who must endure TSA screenings and commercial flight delays. Keywords: [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [barbara walters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-walters.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [private aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md) ### Ask Adam, Private Concorde Jets and Super Yachts - **Episode:** [276: Cleopatra Returns](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/276-cleopatra-returns.md) - **Published:** 2011-02-06 - **Time:** 18:55–22:59 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/276-cleopatra-returns/chapter/ask-adam-private-concorde-jets-and-super-yachts.md In an "Ask Adam" segment, the hosts debate why billionaires like Paul Allen or Larry Ellison do not purchase retired Concorde jets for private use. Adam explains the logistical hurdles, including the need for a five-person crew and the political optics of such high-fuel consumption. The conversation shifts to the massive super yachts owned by tech moguls and the specific maintenance they require. Keywords: [paul allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), [larry ellison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-ellison.md), [concorde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concorde.md), super yachts, [private aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md), [tom perkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-perkins.md) ### TSA Regulations for Private Aviation and Mule Skinners - **Episode:** [75: Boeing vs. Airbus - The Flatulence Conspiracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/75-boeing-vs-airbus-the-flatulence-conspiracy.md) - **Published:** 2009-02-26 - **Time:** 1:16:52–1:19:34 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/75-boeing-vs-airbus-the-flatulence-conspiracy/chapter/tsa-regulations-for-private-aviation-and-mule-skinners.md The TSA is attempting to impose commercial airline security rules on private aviation, including liquid restrictions. Additionally, a federal anti-terror law now requires "mule skinners" at historic parks to undergo biometric background checks. These measures are ridiculed as overreach, with the hosts suggesting the regulations are nonsensical and target unlikely threats. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [private aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md), mule skinners, [background checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [amish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amish.md) ### European Weather and Private Jet Fire Sales - **Episode:** [58: Cork Grows on Trees](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/58-cork-grows-on-trees.md) - **Published:** 2008-11-22 - **Time:** 42:52–46:30 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/58-cork-grows-on-trees/chapter/european-weather-and-private-jet-fire-sales.md Severe weather in Northern Europe, including snow and high winds, disrupted travel plans between the UK and the Netherlands. The economic downturn has led to a "fire sale" in the private aviation market, with banks like Fortis offering high-end Cessna jets at a fraction of their original value. The high cost of aircraft maintenance is noted as a deterrent for potential buyers during the financial crisis. Keywords: [frankfurt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frankfurt.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [cessna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cessna.md), [private jets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-jets.md), [fortis bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fortis-bank.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md) ### General Aviation, Flying in Europe and France - **Episode:** [54: Obama Armbands](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/54-obama-armbands.md) - **Published:** 2008-11-01 - **Time:** 1:22:37–1:26:10 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/54-obama-armbands/chapter/general-aviation-flying-in-europe-and-france.md A discussion on private aviation covers the logistics of flying small aircraft between the UK and mainland France. Specific locations like Le Touquet and the Champagne region are mentioned as popular destinations for UK pilots. The technical requirements for a preferred aircraft include pressurization and a high service ceiling to avoid weather turbulence. Keywords: [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), piper meridian, [normandy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/normandy.md), champagne region, private pilot, airfields ### Private Aviation and UK General Declarations - **Episode:** [36: Yahoo+Microsoft=Britney Spears](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/36-yahoo-microsoft-britney-spears.md) - **Published:** 2008-06-22 - **Time:** 43:23–46:49 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/36-yahoo-microsoft-britney-spears/chapter/private-aviation-and-uk-general-declarations.md Pilots flying private aircraft into the United Kingdom must submit a "General Declaration" (Gen Dec) 24 hours before arrival. While some airports like Biggin Hill have dedicated passport control, smaller fields like Fair Oaks rely on faxed documentation to authorities. The segment notes that while checks are frequent on weekends, enforcement can be inconsistent during the week. Keywords: [private aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md), general declaration, [passport control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passport-control.md), biggin hill, fair oaks, flight planning ### Private Aviation, Corporate Jet Sharing and NetJets - **Episode:** [12: Lawsuit Crazy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy.md) - **Published:** 2008-01-12 - **Time:** 28:27–30:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/private-aviation-corporate-jet-sharing-and-netjets.md John C. Dvorak recounts returning from Las Vegas on a Hawker 800 private jet. The hosts discuss the logistics of corporate aviation, noting that most private jets are now shared through services like NetJets rather than being individually owned. They list various tech billionaires who own aircraft, including Paul Allen and the founders of Google and eBay. Keywords: [private jets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-jets.md), hawker 800, [netjets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netjets.md), gulfstream g5, [paul allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md) --- This is the markdown version of a page on The No Agenda Show for AI agents. Every public page on this site has one: add `.md` to its URL, or request it with `Accept: text/markdown`. - [Site index for agents (llms.txt)](https://search.noagendashow.net/llms.txt) - [Home](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - [Search transcripts](https://search.noagendashow.net/search.md) - [All episodes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episodes.md) - [Topics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topics.md) - [People](https://search.noagendashow.net/people.md)