# Pre Crime on The No Agenda Show

Pre Crime comes up in 35 chapters across 35 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from December 2007 to October 2017.

- **Chapters:** 35
- **Episodes:** 35
- **Discussed:** December 2007 – October 2017
- **Related topics:** [Pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [Fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [Mental Health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [Minority Report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minority-report.md), [Al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [Barack Obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [Civil Liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md), [Dui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dui.md), [Entrapment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entrapment.md), [London](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 35

### Cru Beaujolais Wine Recommendations and Pre-Crime

- **Episode:** [976: 10th Anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/976-10th-anniversary.md)
- **Published:** 2017-10-27
- **Time:** 4:22:48–4:25:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/976-10th-anniversary/chapter/cru-beaujolais-wine-recommendations-and-pre-crime.md

Michael Ashmore donates $250 and requests a "pre-crime" jingle. This leads to an extensive "tip of the day" regarding Cru Beaujolais wine. The host recommends the 2015 vintage as one of the best since the 1940s and lists specific regions like Fleurie, Brouilly, and Morgon as high-quality options.

Keywords: michael ashmore, [beaujolais](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beaujolais.md), [wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine.md), 2015 vintage, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### FBI Informants, Pre-Crime Stings

- **Episode:** [838: Hillary and the Vase](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/838-hillary-and-the-vase.md)
- **Published:** 2016-06-30
- **Time:** 2:46:54–2:53:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/838-hillary-and-the-vase/chapter/fbi-informants-pre-crime-stings.md

The New York Times reports on the FBI's increasing use of undercover operations and informants to target suspected ISIS sympathizers. These operations often involve agents providing fake bombs or weapons to individuals who have expressed radical views online. Critics, including judges in cases like the "Newburgh Four," have suggested these plots are manufactured by the FBI rather than being independent threats.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [informants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/informants.md), [entrapment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entrapment.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), newburgh four, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Coping with Misinformation, Humor as a Shield

- **Episode:** [703: Lowjistiks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/703-lowjistiks.md)
- **Published:** 2015-03-12
- **Time:** 1:13:04–1:19:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/703-lowjistiks/chapter/coping-with-misinformation-humor-as-a-shield.md

In response to a listener email about the stress of recognizing global manipulation, the hosts advocate for using humor as a psychological shield. They perform a role-play exercise regarding "pre-crime" and government overreach to demonstrate how to subversively challenge mainstream narratives. The "No Agenda" show is framed as a necessary tool for maintaining a balanced news diet amidst constant propaganda.

Keywords: [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [philosophy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philosophy.md)

### Boris Johnson, Jihadi Tourism and Pre-Crime Legislation

- **Episode:** [647: Flood the Zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone.md)
- **Published:** 2014-09-06
- **Time:** 30:38–34:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone/chapter/boris-johnson-jihadi-tourism-and-pre-crime-legislation.md

London Mayor Boris Johnson writes an op-ed in The Telegraph proposing legal changes to address British citizens traveling to Syria and Iraq. Johnson suggests a "rebuttable presumption" where any citizen visiting war zones without prior notification is presumed to have traveled for terrorist purposes. The hosts characterize this proposal as an expansion of "pre-crime" law enforcement.

Keywords: [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telegraph.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), rebuttable presumption, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Justin Carter Facebook Arrest, Pre-Crime, Austin Teenager

- **Episode:** [527: Odious Selfies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/527-odious-selfies.md)
- **Published:** 2013-07-04
- **Time:** 2:06:46–2:11:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/527-odious-selfies/chapter/justin-carter-facebook-arrest-pre-crime-austin-teenager.md

Justin Carter, an Austin teenager, is held in solitary confinement on terrorism charges after making a sarcastic comment about "shooting up a school" during a Facebook argument. The hosts highlight the "LOL JK" (just kidding) context of the post and criticize the arrest as a "pre-crime" overreaction. They question the lack of available court documents and the suspicious timing of the media coverage.

Keywords: justin carter, [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), terroristic threats, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Miss Connecticut Wins Pageant After DNA Test Question

- **Episode:** [523: by Law and by Rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/523-by-law-and-by-rule.md)
- **Published:** 2013-06-20
- **Time:** 16:38–21:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/523-by-law-and-by-rule/chapter/miss-connecticut-wins-pageant-after-dna-test-question.md

Miss Connecticut, the eventual winner of Miss USA 2013, expresses support for police DNA testing of criminal suspects following a Supreme Court ruling. She argues that such measures are necessary steps to solving crimes in a dangerous world. The hosts mock the response as a "pre-crime" mentality and note the political optics of a winner from Connecticut.

Keywords: miss connecticut, mo rocco, [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [dna test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-test.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Barack Obama, Homeland Security and Communication Interception

- **Episode:** [518: Hot Scene](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/518-hot-scene.md)
- **Published:** 2013-06-02
- **Time:** 10:07–21:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/518-hot-scene/chapter/barack-obama-homeland-security-and-communication-interception.md

President Barack Obama delivered a speech addressing domestic terrorism and the need to identify individuals "drifting towards violence." The rhetoric emphasizes a balance between security and civil liberties while proposing a review of law enforcement authorities to intercept new types of communication. Critics argue this language signals an expansion of wiretapping and the normalization of "pre-crime" monitoring within the United States, often referred to as "the homeland."

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [wiretapping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wiretapping.md), communication interception

### Grant Accord Arrest, PANDAS Disease and School Safety Overreach

- **Episode:** [517: Chubby Hitler](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/517-chubby-hitler.md)
- **Published:** 2013-05-30
- **Time:** 1:28:05–1:32:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/517-chubby-hitler/chapter/grant-accord-arrest-pandas-disease-and-school-safety-overreach.md

A 17-year-old student in Oregon, Grant Accord, was arrested for allegedly plotting a school attack after police found "destructive devices" in a secret compartment in his room. His mother attributed his behavior to PANDAS, a rare autoimmune disorder linked to OCD and tics. The case is discussed as an example of "pre-crime" enforcement and the criminalization of adolescent frustration and mental health issues.

Keywords: grant accord, [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), [pandas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandas.md), [school shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-shooting.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

### Cheerleader Hit Lists, Pre-Crime and Lonely Crazies

- **Episode:** [508: Lonely Crazies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/508-lonely-crazies.md)
- **Published:** 2013-04-28
- **Time:** 2:28:19–2:31:43
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/508-lonely-crazies/chapter/cheerleader-hit-lists-pre-crime-and-lonely-crazies.md

A news report about Arizona cheerleaders creating a "hit list" on Instagram is dismissed as an overreaction to typical teenage behavior. This is contrasted with a trend in the Netherlands where authorities are monitoring "lonely crazies" (*eenzaam gekke*) on 4chan ahead of the Queen's abdication. The hosts characterize these actions as a move toward "pre-crime" law enforcement.

Keywords: [hit list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hit-list.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [4chan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/4chan.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), lonely crazies

### Pre-Crime Brain Activity Research

- **Episode:** [502: Nuevo Orden Mundial](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/502-nuevo-orden-mundial.md)
- **Published:** 2013-04-07
- **Time:** 2:27:41–2:31:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/502-nuevo-orden-mundial/chapter/pre-crime-brain-activity-research.md

Researchers are using MRI scans to measure brain activity associated with impulsivity to predict recidivism in prison inmates. The study claims that low activity in certain brain regions makes an individual 4.5 times more likely to re-offend. This "pre-crime" technology is criticized as a pseudo-scientific way to permanently marginalize former offenders.

Keywords: [mri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mri.md), impulsivity, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [recidivism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recidivism.md), brain function

### UK Knife Laws, Pre-Crime Legislation

- **Episode:** [496: Shoot Look Shoot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/496-shoot-look-shoot.md)
- **Published:** 2013-03-17
- **Time:** 2:43:25–2:46:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/496-shoot-look-shoot/chapter/uk-knife-laws-pre-crime-legislation.md

The UK government is considering legislation that would create a legal assumption that anyone carrying a knife intends to use it, leading to mandatory prison sentences. The hosts characterize this as "pre-crime" logic and part of a broader global effort to disarm citizens and increase state control.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), knife laws, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [disarmament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disarmament.md)

### Gilberto Valli, Cannibal Cop Conspiracy Trial

- **Episode:** [494: Aid & Comfort](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/494-aid-comfort.md)
- **Published:** 2013-03-10
- **Time:** 50:31–52:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/494-aid-comfort/chapter/gilberto-valli-cannibal-cop-conspiracy-trial.md

The hosts discuss the federal trial of NYPD officer Gilberto Valli, famously known as the "Cannibal Cop." Valli was accused of conspiring in online chat rooms to kidnap and eat women, though his defense argued the communications were merely dark fantasies. The discussion focuses on the concept of "pre-crime" and whether online speech constitutes a legal conspiracy without overt action.

Keywords: gilberto valli, cannibal cop, [nypd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nypd.md), [conspiracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Mental Health Legislation, Pre-Crime, and Forced Treatment

- **Episode:** [470: Civil Society](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/470-civil-society.md)
- **Published:** 2012-12-16
- **Time:** 20:45–23:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/470-civil-society/chapter/mental-health-legislation-pre-crime-and-forced-treatment.md

Lisa Van Susteren advocates for new legislation that would allow authorities to intervene before a crime is committed if an individual shows "warning signs" of mental instability. These signs include anger, isolation, and a fascination with guns. The hosts compare this to "pre-crime" and express concern that such laws would allow the state to forcibly medicate or institutionalize citizens based on perceived threats.

Keywords: [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

### DUI Ignition Locks, NTSB, Mothers Against Drunk Driving

- **Episode:** [469: This That and the Other](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/469-this-that-and-the-other.md)
- **Published:** 2012-12-13
- **Time:** 2:47:38–2:52:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/469-this-that-and-the-other/chapter/dui-ignition-locks-ntsb-mothers-against-drunk-driving.md

The NTSB recommends that all 50 states require ignition interlock devices for all drivers convicted of a DUI. A report by Diane Sawyer explores new technology that would require all drivers to prove sobriety before a car will start. The hosts label this "pre-crime" and criticize Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) as a "scam organization" that has moved beyond its original mission.

Keywords: [dui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dui.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [madd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madd.md), [ignition interlock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ignition-interlock.md), [alcohol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alcohol.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Asymmetric Warfare Group Radicalization Guide

- **Episode:** [449: Deficit Pending](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/449-deficit-pending.md)
- **Published:** 2012-10-04
- **Time:** 56:03–1:01:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/449-deficit-pending/chapter/asymmetric-warfare-group-radicalization-guide.md

The military's Asymmetric Warfare Group (AWG) released a tactical reference guide to help leaders identify signs of radicalization into violent extremism. Adam Curry reviews the guide's flowchart, which flags behaviors such as complaining about bias, visiting "extremist" blogs, or establishing websites to display unconventional views. The hosts jokingly apply these criteria to themselves, noting that the broad definitions could classify almost anyone as a potential threat.

Keywords: asymmetric warfare group, awg, [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md), [violent extremism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violent-extremism.md), military personnel, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), tactical reference guide

### Janet Napolitano, Pre-Crime and Cyber-Based Systems

- **Episode:** [444: New Red Line](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/444-new-red-line.md)
- **Published:** 2012-09-16
- **Time:** 1:56:29–2:00:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/444-new-red-line/chapter/janet-napolitano-pre-crime-and-cyber-based-systems.md

The proposed cybersecurity directive designates Secretary Janet Napolitano as the strategic coordinator for national infrastructure protection. The language in the draft is criticized for being vague and open-ended, potentially enabling "pre-crime" investigations by the FBI and DHS into domestic threats.

Keywords: [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md)

### Pre-Crime Beta Teams, Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment

- **Episode:** [432: Felonious Bears](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/432-felonious-bears.md)
- **Published:** 2012-08-05
- **Time:** 2:14:46–2:17:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/432-felonious-bears/chapter/pre-crime-beta-teams-behavioral-evaluation-and-threat-assessment.md

The University of Colorado's "Beta Team" (Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment) is scrutinized following the Aurora shooting. These teams are designed to identify potential threats on campus before they act. The hosts compare this to "pre-crime" and express concern over the expansion of such surveillance units in educational institutions.

Keywords: beta team, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), [virginia tech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virginia-tech.md), [university of colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-colorado.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), threat assessment

### NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly, Copycat Threats, Media Scripting

- **Episode:** [430: Burka Bellyflop](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/430-burka-bellyflop.md)
- **Published:** 2012-07-29
- **Time:** 31:20–38:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/430-burka-bellyflop/chapter/nypd-commissioner-ray-kelly-copycat-threats-media-scripting.md

NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly and various news anchors discuss the threat of "copycat" attackers following the Aurora shooting. The hosts highlight nearly identical phrasing used by Candy Crowley and Aaron Burnett, suggesting a centralized media script. They criticize the push for "pre-crime" scenarios where individuals are detained for mental health evaluations based on legal gun ownership and protected speech, such as wearing a provocative t-shirt.

Keywords: [ray kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-kelly.md), [candy crowley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candy-crowley.md), [aaron burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aaron-burnett.md), [nypd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nypd.md), copycats, [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Washington DUI Laws, Huffing, Pre-Crime Cameras

- **Episode:** [390: Threshold Event](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/390-threshold-event.md)
- **Published:** 2012-03-11
- **Time:** 2:10:24–2:13:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/390-threshold-event/chapter/washington-dui-laws-huffing-pre-crime-cameras.md

New legislation in Washington State expands DUI laws to include "huffing" (inhaling chemicals) and mandates cameras on ignition breathalyzers to verify the driver's identity. The hosts characterize these measures as "pre-crime" surveillance and mock the inclusion of huffing, which they note is primarily a problem among 12-year-olds.

Keywords: [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), [dui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dui.md), huffing, [breathalyzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breathalyzer.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

### Person of Interest TV Show and CIA Drug Trafficking

- **Episode:** [384: No Specific Plot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/384-no-specific-plot.md)
- **Published:** 2012-02-19
- **Time:** 2:02:43–2:06:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/384-no-specific-plot/chapter/person-of-interest-tv-show-and-cia-drug-trafficking.md

A clip from the TV show "Person of Interest" is analyzed for its depiction of CIA drug trafficking to fund the War on Terror. The dialogue's specific mention of "14 hours" is flagged as a potential coded message or significant detail within the "pre-crime" narrative.

Keywords: [person of interest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/person-of-interest.md), [jj abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jj-abrams.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [drug trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-trafficking.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md)

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