# Placebo on The No Agenda Show

Placebo comes up in 19 chapters across 18 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2009 to May 2025.

- **Chapters:** 19
- **Episodes:** 18
- **Discussed:** April 2009 – May 2025
- **Related topics:** [Big Pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [Medical Ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-ethics.md), [Side Effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md), [Vaccine Trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), [Amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [Anesthesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anesthesia.md), [Anthony Fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [Antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), [Antidepressants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antidepressants.md), [Chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md)

## Chapters 1–19 of 19

### Vaccine Testing and Placebo Control Controversy

- **Episode:** [1761: News Desert](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1761-news-desert.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-04
- **Time:** 1:34:47–1:39:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1761-news-desert/chapter/vaccine-testing-and-placebo-control-controversy.md

Dr. Peter Hotez criticized RFK Jr.'s demand for new placebo-controlled trials for vaccines, calling it a "misrepresentation" of safety protocols. Hotez admitted that while initial trials use placebos, updated versions of vaccines for new variants do not repeat the full process due to high costs. RFK Jr. continues to claim that the MMR vaccine is "leaky" and that hospitalizations are misrepresented.

Keywords: [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [peter hotez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-hotez.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [vaccine safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-safety.md), [mmr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr.md)

### Ketamine Studies, Placebo Effect, NPR Report

- **Episode:** [1756: AG Barbie](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie.md)
- **Published:** 2025-04-17
- **Time:** 46:54–50:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie/chapter/ketamine-studies-placebo-effect-npr-report.md

An NPR report on a Stanford University study reveals that ketamine's effectiveness in treating depression may be largely due to the placebo effect. Researchers found that patients who received a placebo during surgery reported similar improvements to those who received ketamine. The study suggests that the expectation of treatment and the care received from medical staff are significant factors in recovery.

Keywords: [ketamine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ketamine.md), [placebo effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo-effect.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/depression.md), [anesthesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anesthesia.md), boris heifets

### Medical Care, Placebo Biology, Pharmaceutical Skepticism

- **Episode:** [1756: AG Barbie](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie.md)
- **Published:** 2025-04-17
- **Time:** 50:35–53:30
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie/chapter/medical-care-placebo-biology-pharmaceutical-skepticism.md

The hosts expand on the ketamine study to discuss the broader implications of the placebo effect in modern medicine. They argue that many psychiatric drugs, such as Zoloft and Xanax, may rely on the patient's belief in the medication rather than chemical efficacy. The segment emphasizes that the placebo effect has real biological foundations and should be considered a valid medical tool.

Keywords: [placebo effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo-effect.md), [zoloft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoloft.md), [xanax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xanax.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), brain chemistry, [medical ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-ethics.md)

### Dr. Marcy Bowers, WPATH Standards, Medical Evidence Debate

- **Episode:** [1576: Disease X](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1576-disease-x.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-27
- **Time:** 2:40:11–2:55:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1576-disease-x/chapter/dr-marcy-bowers-wpath-standards-medical-evidence-debate.md

Dr. Marcy Bowers, president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), defended gender-affirming care by claiming trans identities have existed since "antiquity." Bowers dismissed the need for "level one" randomized controlled trials, comparing gender transition to cancer treatment where using a placebo would be unethical. The discussion highlights the controversy over WPATH removing age guidelines for surgeries and the lack of consensus-based science in the field.

Keywords: marcy bowers, [wpath](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wpath.md), gender-affirming surgery, level one evidence, placebo trials, [medical ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-ethics.md)

### Psychological Control, The Lost Art of Healing Experiment

- **Episode:** [1538: FedNow](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1538-fednow.md)
- **Published:** 2023-03-16
- **Time:** 16:29–19:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1538-fednow/chapter/psychological-control-the-lost-art-of-healing-experiment.md

A 1936 experiment detailed in Bernard Loon's book, The Lost Art of Healing, describes a prisoner who died of heart failure after being led to believe his blood was being drained, though only water was dripping. This anecdote serves as a commentary on how fear and belief can induce physical death. The discussion extends to the negative psychological impact of pharmaceutical advertisements that promote self-diagnosis of ailments like irritable bowel syndrome.

Keywords: bernard loon, [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [placebo effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo-effect.md), medical advertising, [fear-mongering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fear-mongering.md)

### SSRI Efficacy, Antidepressant Brain Chemistry Claims

- **Episode:** [1478: Flexitarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1478-flexitarianism.md)
- **Published:** 2022-08-18
- **Time:** 1:07:46–1:12:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1478-flexitarianism/chapter/ssri-efficacy-antidepressant-brain-chemistry-claims.md

A major study has challenged the long-held theory that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, specifically serotonin levels. Reports suggest that for 85% of users, antidepressants may be no more effective than a placebo. Media outlets have begun framing the questioning of SSRI efficacy as a "right-wing" political attack.

Keywords: [ssri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ssri.md), [antidepressants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antidepressants.md), brain chemistry, [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md)

### Pfizer Vaccine Antibody Testing, Saline Shot Reports

- **Episode:** [1372: Grope Line](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line.md)
- **Published:** 2021-08-12
- **Time:** 21:36–23:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/pfizer-vaccine-antibody-testing-saline-shot-reports.md

A report suggests that some individuals who received the Pfizer vaccine show zero antibodies upon testing. The hosts discuss an anecdote regarding a producer who experienced no side effects from the shot, leading to speculation about placebos or saline shots being administered. They criticize the narrative that feeling sick after a vaccine is the only sign that it is working.

Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), saline shots, [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), jennifer dvorak

### Clinical Trial Control Groups, Placebo Crossover

- **Episode:** [1342: Disinfo Dozen](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1342-disinfo-dozen.md)
- **Published:** 2021-04-29
- **Time:** 1:05:17–1:07:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1342-disinfo-dozen/chapter/clinical-trial-control-groups-placebo-crossover.md

The long-term clinical trials for COVID-19 vaccines have effectively lost their control groups because most placebo recipients were offered the actual vaccine after the EUA was granted. Dr. Carlos Fierro of Johnson County Clinical Trials confirmed that nearly all volunteers in the Moderna study chose to get the vaccine, leaving no comparison group for ongoing safety monitoring. This development is criticized as a failure of scientific protocol that prevents the assessment of long-term side effects.

Keywords: control group, [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), lenexa

### Vaccine Trial Methodology, Placebo Groups, Freight Train Cargo

- **Episode:** [1275: Hypocrite Oath](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1275-hypocrite-oath.md)
- **Published:** 2020-09-06
- **Time:** 1:05:33–1:07:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1275-hypocrite-oath/chapter/vaccine-trial-methodology-placebo-groups-freight-train-cargo.md

COVID-19 vaccine trials are using laboratory-confirmed disease as a primary endpoint, comparing infection rates between vaccinated and placebo groups. Critics point out that these trials often fail to account for variables like mask-wearing or social distancing among participants. Separately, a massive increase in freight train traffic from China suggests that global trade and cargo movement are returning to full capacity.

Keywords: [vaccine trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [freight trains](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freight-trains.md), [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md)

### Dr. Francis Collins, NIH Vaccine Strategy and "Dummy Placebos"

- **Episode:** [1258: Dummy Placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo.md)
- **Published:** 2020-07-12
- **Time:** 18:17–22:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/dr-francis-collins-nih-vaccine-strategy-and-dummy-placebos.md

Dr. Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), is leading a massive effort to launch four vaccine trials involving 30,000 volunteers each starting in July 2020. Collins noted that trials must occur in areas where the virus is actively spreading, specifically targeting "red states" that opened early. A reference to "dummy placebos" in his description of the trial methodology raised questions about the terminology used for control groups.

Keywords: [francis collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francis-collins.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), human genome project, [vaccine trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [red states](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-states.md)

### Amazon Oxytocin Reviews, Placebo and Tap Water Claims

- **Episode:** [931: Putin's Playbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/931-putin-s-playbook.md)
- **Published:** 2017-05-21
- **Time:** 22:38–26:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/931-putin-s-playbook/chapter/amazon-oxytocin-reviews-placebo-and-tap-water-claims.md

A review of oxytocin nasal sprays available on Amazon reveals skepticism regarding product authenticity. One reviewer, claiming to be a pharmaceutical researcher, stated that lab analysis showed the product was merely tap water. The hosts discuss the likelihood of these supplements acting as placebos and the ethics of selling such products online.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [oxytocin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxytocin.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), lab analysis, consumer reviews

### Office Temperature Study, Placebo Thermostats

- **Episode:** [746: Thermostat Placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/746-thermostat-placebo.md)
- **Published:** 2015-08-09
- **Time:** 1:02:50–1:07:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/746-thermostat-placebo/chapter/office-temperature-study-placebo-thermostats.md

A widely reported study claiming office temperatures are biased against women is debunked as being based on a sample size of only 16 participants. An anecdote from an HVAC professional describes the use of "placebo thermostats"—unconnected devices installed to give employees a sense of control over their environment.

Keywords: [hvac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hvac.md), thermostats, [nature journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nature-journal.md), [gender gap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-gap.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md)

### Haldol Side Effects, Placebo Effects and Listener Stories

- **Episode:** [511: Warming Up to Iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/511-warming-up-to-iceland.md)
- **Published:** 2013-05-09
- **Time:** 1:29:55–1:32:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/511-warming-up-to-iceland/chapter/haldol-side-effects-placebo-effects-and-listener-stories.md

A listener shares a harrowing experience with the antipsychotic drug Haldol, describing severe physical contortions and dental damage after being injected in a hospital. This anecdote supports the argument that many psychiatric treatments rely on placebo effects or have dangerous side effects that are often downplayed.

Keywords: [haldol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haldol.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), [listener email](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-email.md)

### Acupuncture Experience and Mercury in the Brain Claim

- **Episode:** [412: Red Square Patch](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/412-red-square-patch.md)
- **Published:** 2012-05-27
- **Time:** 1:47:58–1:54:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/412-red-square-patch/chapter/acupuncture-experience-and-mercury-in-the-brain-claim.md

A personal account of a visit to an acupuncturist in Austin describes a "high" sensation during the procedure and a diagnostic technique involving muscle resistance. The practitioner claimed to identify mercury encapsulated in the brain from a childhood vaccine as the cause of Tourette's syndrome. The validity of the "muscle testing" method is debated, with suggestions that it may be a manifestation of the placebo effect.

Keywords: acupuncture, [mercury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercury.md), [tourette's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s.md), [placebo effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo-effect.md), muscle testing

### Psychotropic Drugs, DSM-5 Conflicts, Sleep Disorders

- **Episode:** [406: Zombie Walk](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/406-zombie-walk.md)
- **Published:** 2012-05-06
- **Time:** 2:22:39–2:27:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/406-zombie-walk/chapter/psychotropic-drugs-dsm-5-conflicts-sleep-disorders.md

The upcoming DSM-5 manual is criticized for financial conflicts of interest, with 70% of task force members having ties to pharmaceutical companies. The hosts highlight that 83% of contributors to the sleep disorder section have industry links. They also discuss reports claiming that antidepressants are often no more effective than placebos.

Keywords: [psychotropic drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychotropic-drugs.md), [dsm-5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsm-5.md), american psychiatric association, sleep disorders, placebos

### Chantix Side Effects and Placebo Success

- **Episode:** [213: Post Traumatic Sex](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/213-post-traumatic-sex.md)
- **Published:** 2010-07-01
- **Time:** 1:43:21–1:45:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/213-post-traumatic-sex/chapter/chantix-side-effects-and-placebo-success.md

A listener shares a harrowing experience with the smoking cessation drug Chantix, involving memory loss and waking up without shoes or a belt. The account highlights the drug's severe side effects and the listener's subsequent success in quitting smoking using a simple sugar cube as a placebo.

Keywords: [chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md), [smoking cessation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smoking-cessation.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [dui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dui.md)

### Vaccine Testing Protocols and Media Control Narratives

- **Episode:** [144: Hemorrhagic Flu Outbreak!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/144-hemorrhagic-flu-outbreak.md)
- **Published:** 2009-11-01
- **Time:** 35:32–38:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/144-hemorrhagic-flu-outbreak/chapter/vaccine-testing-protocols-and-media-control-narratives.md

The discussion shifts to the lack of inert placebo testing in FDA-approved vaccine trials, which critics argue makes it difficult to verify efficacy and safety. The hosts suggest that media controversies, such as the Shepard Smith interview, are orchestrated entertainment designed to distract the public while government agendas are implemented.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [vaccine testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-testing.md), media controversy, [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md)

### Tamiflu Scarcity, Personal Health Anecdotes

- **Episode:** [94: Dvorak Wears Prada](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/94-dvorak-wears-prada.md)
- **Published:** 2009-05-03
- **Time:** 26:50–31:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/94-dvorak-wears-prada/chapter/tamiflu-scarcity-personal-health-anecdotes.md

The hosts discuss the difficulty of obtaining Tamiflu during the swine flu scare, particularly within the UK's National Health Service. One host expresses concern for family members in Holland and England, seeking a prescription as a precautionary measure. The conversation touches on the ethics of stockpiling antivirals for travel and the potential for doctors to over-prescribe medications for financial gain.

Keywords: [tamiflu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tamiflu.md), [influenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influenza.md), [prescription drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prescription-drugs.md), [socialized medicine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialized-medicine.md), [placebo effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo-effect.md)

### Zycam Zinc Treatment for Cold Prevention

- **Episode:** [91: Stroking the Ugly Stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/91-stroking-the-ugly-stick.md)
- **Published:** 2009-04-22
- **Time:** 7:33–9:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/91-stroking-the-ugly-stick/chapter/zycam-zinc-treatment-for-cold-prevention.md

A personal anecdote regarding a head cold leads to a discussion about Zycam, a zinc-based cold remedy. While acknowledging skepticism regarding its effectiveness as a potential placebo, one speaker claims it successfully prevents colds when used at the first sign of symptoms. The conversation includes a humorous pitch for a hypothetical sponsorship based on "blasting nose holes" with the product.

Keywords: zycam, [zinc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zinc.md), cold remedy, [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [nasal spray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasal-spray.md)

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