# Phil Zimmermann on The No Agenda Show

Phil Zimmermann comes up in 3 chapters across 3 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from November 2013 to August 2024.

- **Chapters:** 3
- **Episodes:** 3
- **Discussed:** November 2013 – August 2024
- **Related topics:** [Pgp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pgp.md), [Encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [France](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [Kickstarter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickstarter.md), [Lavabit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lavabit.md), [Netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [Pavel Durov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pavel-durov.md), [Phone Tapping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phone-tapping.md), [Privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [Surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

## Chapters 1–3 of 3

### Telegram Founder Pavel Durov Arrested in France

- **Episode:** [1689: Unhappy Newcomer](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1689-unhappy-newcomer.md)
- **Published:** 2024-08-25
- **Time:** 2:45–6:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1689-unhappy-newcomer/chapter/telegram-founder-pavel-durov-arrested-in-france.md

Pavel Durov, the billionaire founder of the encrypted messaging app Telegram, was detained at Le Bourget airport outside Paris by French authorities. The arrest reportedly stems from allegations of inadequate moderation on the platform, which officials claim facilitates criminal activity. The situation is compared to historical government actions against PGP creator Phil Zimmermann and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

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### Phil Zimmermann, PGP and Dutch Phone Tapping

- **Episode:** [687: Cyber Caliphate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/687-cyber-caliphate.md)
- **Published:** 2015-01-15
- **Time:** 1:35:13–1:37:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/687-cyber-caliphate/chapter/phil-zimmermann-pgp-and-dutch-phone-tapping.md

The history of PGP creator Phil Zimmermann's harassment by law enforcement is recalled as a precursor to modern anti-encryption efforts. The Netherlands is noted as having the highest rate of phone taps per capita in the world, with Justice Minister Koen Geens seeking to expand these powers to include unencrypted WhatsApp messages. The hosts suggest these operations are often used for blackmail or gaining investment advantages.

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### Lavabit, Dark Mail Alliance, Phil Zimmermann

- **Episode:** [564: Summer of Snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/564-summer-of-snowden.md)
- **Published:** 2013-11-10
- **Time:** 2:28:01–2:33:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/564-summer-of-snowden/chapter/lavabit-dark-mail-alliance-phil-zimmermann.md

Ladar Levison of Lavabit is launching the "Dark Mail Alliance" alongside PGP creator Phil Zimmermann to develop a new secure email protocol. Adam Curry expresses skepticism about the project's intellectual property controls and Levison's past willingness to cooperate with federal authorities for a fee. He warns listeners not to be "snookered" by the "Summer of Snowden" marketing.

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