# Pasteurization on The No Agenda Show

Pasteurization comes up in 22 chapters across 21 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2008 to June 2025.

- **Chapters:** 22
- **Episodes:** 21
- **Discussed:** April 2008 – June 2025
- **Related topics:** [Raw Milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [Fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [Bird Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [E. Coli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-coli.md), [Food Safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md), [Cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [Dr. Celine Gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), [Flu Shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [Gamma Radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gamma-radiation.md), [H5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 22

### Raw Milk Comeback, Legal Restrictions

- **Episode:** [1771: Home Depotation](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1771-home-depotation.md)
- **Published:** 2025-06-08
- **Time:** 1:01:21–1:04:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1771-home-depotation/chapter/raw-milk-comeback-legal-restrictions.md

Raw milk is experiencing a resurgence in popularity despite being illegal to sell across state lines in 20 U.S. states. Proponents argue that raw dairy is a staple in Europe and offers superior health benefits, while the FDA maintains warnings regarding bacteria like E. coli and Campylobacter. The difficulty of obtaining raw milk in America is compared to the ease of purchasing illegal drugs.

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### Raw Milk, Avian Flu and Fecal Contamination Claims

- **Episode:** [1767: Best Clips of The Day](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-24
- **Time:** 1:45:47–1:50:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day/chapter/raw-milk-avian-flu-and-fecal-contamination-claims.md

Media reports compare raw milk to "raw sewage," claiming it is heavily contaminated with fecal matter. Dr. Celine Gounder and other experts warn against unpasteurized dairy due to the risk of avian flu mutating for human-to-human spread. The hosts criticize the "wet market" narrative resurfacing in relation to dairy farm workers and potential future pandemics.

Keywords: [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [louis pasteur](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louis-pasteur.md), [avian flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/avian-flu.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), fecal contamination, [wet market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wet-market.md)

### Veganism, Over-Easy Eggs and Bird Flu Warnings

- **Episode:** [1767: Best Clips of The Day](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-24
- **Time:** 1:59:58–2:04:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day/chapter/veganism-over-easy-eggs-and-bird-flu-warnings.md

Medical experts on major networks advise Americans to avoid "over-easy" eggs and raw milk to prevent bird flu transmission. The USDA maintains that properly cooked poultry is safe, but some commentators suggest switching to plant-based diets for environmental and safety reasons. The hosts highlight the "vegan angle" being pushed at the end of public health warnings.

Keywords: [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md), [plant-based](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plant-based.md), [eggs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eggs.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md)

### Raw Milk Regulations, Big Milk Lobby Influence

- **Episode:** [1725: Artificial Indian](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1725-artificial-indian.md)
- **Published:** 2024-12-29
- **Time:** 43:30–52:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1725-artificial-indian/chapter/raw-milk-regulations-big-milk-lobby-influence.md

A discussion on raw milk highlights how small farmers use "pet food" labels to bypass strict government prohibitions on unpasteurized dairy. The "Big Milk" lobby is accused of using safety regulations to protect a centralized sales channel and eliminate competition from independent producers. Comparisons are made to the beef industry, where large processors like Cargill allegedly discourage direct-to-consumer sales from local ranchers.

Keywords: [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), dairy regulations, milk lobby, [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [k&c cattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/k-c-cattle.md)

### Raw Milk, Pasteurization Skepticism

- **Episode:** [1669: You-Crane](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1669-you-crane.md)
- **Published:** 2024-06-16
- **Time:** 2:47:50–2:51:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1669-you-crane/chapter/raw-milk-pasteurization-skepticism.md

Public health officials are warning against raw milk consumption, suggesting that even pasteurization might not be effective if the viral load is too high. Skeptics point out the lack of documented cases of bird flu transmission via milk. The segment concludes with a nostalgic reference to "Ugly George" and the early days of New York public access cable.

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### Bird Flu Food Safety and Vegan Messaging

- **Episode:** [1665: Flag Gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1665-flag-gate.md)
- **Published:** 2024-06-03
- **Time:** 1:10:08–1:14:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1665-flag-gate/chapter/bird-flu-food-safety-and-vegan-messaging.md

The USDA and CDC advise consumers to cook eggs until yolks are firm and avoid raw or unpasteurized milk to prevent bird flu transmission. Dr. Jen Ashton suggests that for those concerned, a plant-based or vegan diet is an option that is "better for the environment." The hosts highlight this as a "Clip of the Day," noting the pivot from a health crisis to environmental and dietary agendas.

Keywords: [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [vegan diet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vegan-diet.md), [food safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md)

### Dr. Celine Gounder and the Raw Sewage Comparison

- **Episode:** [1660: Doom Goblin](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin.md)
- **Published:** 2024-05-16
- **Time:** 59:31–1:06:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin/chapter/dr-celine-gounder-and-the-raw-sewage-comparison.md

During a CBS segment, Dr. Celine Gounder compares raw milk to "raw sewage" due to potential fecal contamination. The hosts strongly dispute this characterization and correct the historical record regarding Louis Pasteur, noting he originally developed pasteurization for wine, not milk.

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### Raw Milk Safety, FDA Pasteurization Data

- **Episode:** [1659: ungreen](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1659-ungreen.md)
- **Published:** 2024-05-12
- **Time:** 1:09:25–1:14:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1659-ungreen/chapter/raw-milk-safety-fda-pasteurization-data.md

The FDA confirmed that viral fragments of bird flu found in grocery store milk are inactive and pose no threat to humans due to the effectiveness of pasteurization. Health officials continue to warn against the consumption of raw milk, while some argue the bird flu scare is being used to target the raw dairy industry.

Keywords: [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), cottage cheese

### Public Health Response, Frankenstein Flu Concerns

- **Episode:** [1655: Illegal Chants](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants.md)
- **Published:** 2024-04-28
- **Time:** 1:24:54–1:28:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/public-health-response-frankenstein-flu-concerns.md

Medical experts like Dr. Celine Gounder emphasize that viral fragments in milk do not indicate live infectious virus. However, public health officials are monitoring for potential transmission to pigs, which are considered "mixing vessels" that could lead to the mutation of a more dangerous "Frankenstein" flu strain capable of human-to-human spread.

Keywords: [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), kff health news, [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [pigs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pigs.md), [zoonotic transmission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoonotic-transmission.md)

### Bird Flu in Milk, PCR Testing Concerns

- **Episode:** [1654: e-Safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1654-e-safety.md)
- **Published:** 2024-04-25
- **Time:** 2:33:55–2:36:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1654-e-safety/chapter/bird-flu-in-milk-pcr-testing-concerns.md

The FDA has detected fragments of the bird flu virus in samples of pasteurized grocery store milk, though officials maintain the supply is safe. The hosts express skepticism over the use of PCR testing to detect "remnants" of the virus, comparing it to the high-cycle testing used during the COVID-19 pandemic. They suggest the timing of the bird flu narrative may be a precursor to renewed pushes for mail-in voting.

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### CDC Pandemic Preparedness, H5N1 Vaccine Stockpile

- **Episode:** [1649: Stay Alarmed](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1649-stay-alarmed.md)
- **Published:** 2024-04-07
- **Time:** 1:11:11–1:16:10
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1649-stay-alarmed/chapter/cdc-pandemic-preparedness-h5n1-vaccine-stockpile.md

CDC Director Mandy Cohen stated that the U.S. has been preparing for an avian flu outbreak for 20 years and maintains a stockpile of Tamiflu and vaccine candidates. While there is no evidence of human-to-human spread, the agency is working with the USDA to monitor farm workers and cattle. Cohen emphasized that the pasteurization process ensures the commercial milk supply remains safe for consumption.

Keywords: [mandy cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mandy-cohen.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [tamiflu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tamiflu.md), [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md)

### Food Irradiation, E. Coli Prevention

- **Episode:** [1526: Canuck Chuck](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1526-canuck-chuck.md)
- **Published:** 2023-02-06
- **Time:** 1:37:16–1:39:00
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1526-canuck-chuck/chapter/food-irradiation-e-coli-prevention.md

The discussion turns to the use of radiation to sterilize food and prevent bacterial outbreaks like E. coli. While effective for safety and shelf-life, the hosts express concern that the food industry might use irradiation to mask poor hygiene and low-quality ingredients.

Keywords: food irradiation, [sterilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sterilization.md), [e. coli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-coli.md), [food safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md)

### Hepatitis A Vaccine and Dengue Fever Risks

- **Episode:** [987: Kebab Panic!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/987-kebab-panic.md)
- **Published:** 2017-12-03
- **Time:** 2:25:18–2:30:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/987-kebab-panic/chapter/hepatitis-a-vaccine-and-dengue-fever-risks.md

Medical updates cover the symptoms and transmission of Hepatitis A, noting that the virus is rarely fatal and does not cause chronic disease. A significant warning is issued regarding Sanofi Pasteur's dengue fever vaccine, Dengvaxia, which may actually increase the risk of severe disease in people who have never been previously infected. The segment also notes the low effectiveness of the current year's flu vaccine.

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### Bernie Sanders, 1972 Sexual Fantasy Essay

- **Episode:** [802: Warehouse of Souls](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/802-warehouse-of-souls.md)
- **Published:** 2016-02-25
- **Time:** 1:17:16–1:20:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/802-warehouse-of-souls/chapter/bernie-sanders-1972-sexual-fantasy-essay.md

A 1972 essay written by Bernie Sanders titled "Man and Woman" resurfaces, containing controversial descriptions of sexual fantasies involving rape and abuse. Sanders has previously described the piece as a work of fiction intended to critique gender roles. The segment also mentions Gloria Steinem naming Sanders an "honorary woman" and a listener's report on low gas prices in South Carolina.

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### Food Irradiation, Vaccine Manufacturer Indemnification

- **Episode:** [677: 99 Lines of Code](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code.md)
- **Published:** 2014-12-11
- **Time:** 2:44:10–2:47:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code/chapter/food-irradiation-vaccine-manufacturer-indemnification.md

The lack of quality control in vaccine manufacturing is compared to the potential pitfalls of food irradiation. While gamma radiation could eliminate pathogens like E. coli, critics argue that such "purification" methods lead to sloppier handling practices because the end product is guaranteed to be sterile. Similarly, the legal indemnification of vaccine makers is believed to reduce the incentive for rigorous safety and efficacy standards.

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### Hospital Flu Shot Mandates and Flugitive Ad Campaign

- **Episode:** [567: Marketecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/567-marketecture.md)
- **Published:** 2013-11-21
- **Time:** 1:02:02–1:04:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/567-marketecture/chapter/hospital-flu-shot-mandates-and-flugitive-ad-campaign.md

Healthcare workers in Las Vegas are reportedly being forced to receive flu shots or wear surgical masks until March. This leads to a review of a real Sanofi Pasteur marketing campaign featuring "Flugitives"—characters like "the fitness fanatic" who believe they are too healthy for vaccines. The hosts analyze the use of social shaming and buzzwords in pharmaceutical advertising.

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### Healthy Surprise, Coco Roons, Raw Food Labeling

- **Episode:** [450: LaGarde's List](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/450-lagarde-s-list.md)
- **Published:** 2012-10-07
- **Time:** 2:55–4:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/450-lagarde-s-list/chapter/healthy-surprise-coco-roons-raw-food-labeling.md

A discussion regarding a shipment from Healthy Surprise highlights the labeling of "Coco Roons." The product claims to be raw despite containing California almonds that must be pasteurized by law. The hosts question the logic of how a product remains "raw" after the pasteurization process.

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### Haiti Cholera Outbreak, Bill Gates and Vaccine Controversy

- **Episode:** [381: Acquisition Malpractice](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/381-acquisition-malpractice.md)
- **Published:** 2012-02-09
- **Time:** 2:13:46–2:18:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/381-acquisition-malpractice/chapter/haiti-cholera-outbreak-bill-gates-and-vaccine-controversy.md

The summary covers the launch of a cholera vaccination campaign in Haiti using the drug Shanchol, developed with support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The hosts link the outbreak to UN peacekeepers and question why a new, expensive vaccine is being used instead of traditional water and sanitation infrastructure. Additionally, a dental office poster promoting the HPV vaccine for oral cancer prevention is critiqued as a new marketing tactic.

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### CDC Raw Milk Warning, Food Sterilization

- **Episode:** [275: The New Normal](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/275-the-new-normal.md)
- **Published:** 2011-02-03
- **Time:** 1:34:23–1:36:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/275-the-new-normal/chapter/cdc-raw-milk-warning-food-sterilization.md

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has issued a stern warning against drinking raw milk, claiming it poses a high risk of illness from bacteria and parasites. The hosts argue that the government is targeting raw milk producers because they have cleaner, independent operations. They compare the anti-raw milk campaign to the push for irradiated food, which they claim allows for lower standards in meat processing.

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### Food Irradiation Industry, Gamma Radiation Sterilization

- **Episode:** [228: Gassed in Boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/228-gassed-in-boston.md)
- **Published:** 2010-08-22
- **Time:** 38:55–43:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/228-gassed-in-boston/chapter/food-irradiation-industry-gamma-radiation-sterilization.md

The discussion shifts to the use of gamma radiation for food sterilization, a process often labeled as ultra-pasteurization. While acknowledging the process is technically safe, the hosts argue it allows industrial food producers to maintain filthy facilities because radiation kills all bacteria, effectively forcing consumers to eat "sterilized" waste.

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