# Osterholm on The No Agenda Show

Osterholm comes up in 48 chapters across 46 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from October 2014 to May 2026.

- **Chapters:** 48
- **Episodes:** 46
- **Discussed:** October 2014 – May 2026
- **Related topics:** [Joe Rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [Covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [Cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [University Of Minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-minnesota.md), [Fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [Cidrap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cidrap.md), [Influenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influenza.md), [Long Covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-covid.md), [Mutations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mutations.md), [Omicron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omicron.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 48

### Michael Osterholm on Hantavirus Risks and Transmission

- **Episode:** [1867: Transmission Window](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1867-transmission-window.md)
- **Published:** 2026-05-10
- **Time:** 19:45–27:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1867-transmission-window/chapter/michael-osterholm-on-hantavirus-risks-and-transmission.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm appeared on CBS to discuss recent Hantavirus concerns, emphasizing that it is not a coronavirus and has limited person-to-person transmission. He noted that while the "Andes strain" from South America can be more dangerous, the current risk is low, and standard monitoring of symptoms and temperature is sufficient for containment.

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### Michael Osterholm, The Big One Pandemic Warning

- **Episode:** [1796: Zeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1796-zeds.md)
- **Published:** 2025-09-04
- **Time:** 5:00–10:43
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1796-zeds/chapter/michael-osterholm-the-big-one-pandemic-warning.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm appeared on CBS Mornings to promote his new book, "The Big One: How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics." Osterholm warned of a potential "combo" virus that is as infectious as COVID-19 but as lethal as MERS or SARS, which he claims has been discovered in bats in China within the last year. The timing of the book release and media appearance is noted as coinciding with the RFK Jr. Senate hearings.

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### Real Estate Bubble and COVID Data Skepticism

- **Episode:** [1786: Best Exit Strategies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1786-best-exit-strategies.md)
- **Published:** 2025-07-31
- **Time:** 1:39:37–1:41:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1786-best-exit-strategies/chapter/real-estate-bubble-and-covid-data-skepticism.md

The hosts reflect on their early skepticism regarding COVID-19 data, including "gain of function" research and flu case anomalies. They also discuss the World Economic Forum's "you will own nothing" prediction in the context of doubling home prices.

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### COVID-19 Origins, Hospital Capacity Media Narratives

- **Episode:** [1768: Queer The Deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1768-queer-the-deal.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-29
- **Time:** 1:06:07–1:10:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1768-queer-the-deal/chapter/covid-19-origins-hospital-capacity-media-narratives.md

A retrospective look at the early 2020 pandemic response questions the validity of media reports showing overwhelmed hospitals. Observations noted that the USNS Liberty hospital ship and the Javits Center field hospital in New York went largely unused despite dire predictions. The discussion suggests that public fear was amplified by televised images of ambulances that did not match the reality on the ground at those specific locations.

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### Michael Osterholm, Long COVID and Vaccine Efficacy

- **Episode:** [1767: Best Clips of The Day](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-24
- **Time:** 29:27–31:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1767-best-clips-of-the-day/chapter/michael-osterholm-long-covid-and-vaccine-efficacy.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm, a prominent infectious disease expert known as "Dr. Doom," reveals he is suffering from long COVID three years into the pandemic. Despite being heavily vaccinated, Osterholm reports significant respiratory issues and an inability to perform athletic exercises. The hosts contrast his current condition with his previous dire public health projections.

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### Listener Testimonials and COVID-19 Skepticism

- **Episode:** [1599: Drop the Op](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1599-drop-the-op.md)
- **Published:** 2023-10-15
- **Time:** 2:02:32–2:06:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1599-drop-the-op/chapter/listener-testimonials-and-covid-19-skepticism.md

Listeners share stories of how the podcast helped them maintain sanity during the COVID-19 pandemic, contrasting the show's analysis with the "freak out" induced by mainstream guests like Michael Osterholm. A producer also promotes his business, Bronze Age Shaving Co., which manufactures American-made safety razors.

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### Dr. Michael Osterholm on COVID-19 Heart Complications

- **Episode:** [1598: Guardrails](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1598-guardrails.md)
- **Published:** 2023-10-12
- **Time:** 2:40:22–2:42:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1598-guardrails/chapter/dr-michael-osterholm-on-covid-19-heart-complications.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm discusses new research showing that SARS-CoV-2 can infect white blood cells, leading to an inflammatory response that increases the risk of heart attacks and strokes for up to a year post-infection. The hosts note that this "mechanistic link" confirms what they have been reporting for over a year regarding vascular problems associated with the virus.

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### Michael Osterholm, Seasonal Infection and Pandemic Preparedness

- **Episode:** [1589: Valudation](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1589-valudation.md)
- **Published:** 2023-09-10
- **Time:** 1:30:59–1:41:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1589-valudation/chapter/michael-osterholm-seasonal-infection-and-pandemic-preparedness.md

Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm suggested that the FDA aims to treat COVID-19 as a "seasonal infection" similar to influenza, requiring regular vaccinations. During an interview with Chuck Todd, Osterholm advocated for a 9/11-style commission to review the government's response to the pandemic. He emphasized that while the current severity of illness is lower than in 2021, the virus remains widespread and future pandemics are inevitable.

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### Dr. Michael Osterholm, Long COVID Diagnosis

- **Episode:** [1572: Chop Shop](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1572-chop-shop.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-13
- **Time:** 32:57–35:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1572-chop-shop/chapter/dr-michael-osterholm-long-covid-diagnosis.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, revealed he is suffering from long COVID. Known as "Dr. Doom" for his pandemic predictions, Osterholm reported significant respiratory issues and an inability to perform athletic activities. The diagnosis comes three years into the pandemic for the prominent public health advisor.

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### Michael Osterholm, Paxlovid Promotion, COVID-19 Frequency

- **Episode:** [1525: Mask in a Bottle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1525-mask-in-a-bottle.md)
- **Published:** 2023-01-29
- **Time:** 1:40:50–1:42:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1525-mask-in-a-bottle/chapter/michael-osterholm-paxlovid-promotion-covid-19-frequency.md

Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm stated on "Meet the Press" that his goal is for everyone in the country to get COVID-19 twice a year as a mild illness. He emphasized the use of respiratory protection and the antiviral drug Paxlovid for those who do get sick. The hosts interpret this as a pivot away from vaccine efficacy toward the long-term promotion of pharmaceutical treatments.

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### Damar Hamlin, Cardiac Arrest Misinformation Debate

- **Episode:** [1521: Healthscare System](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1521-healthscare-system.md)
- **Published:** 2023-01-15
- **Time:** 1:08:47–1:12:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1521-healthscare-system/chapter/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-misinformation-debate.md

Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm dismissed theories linking Buffalo Bills player Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest to COVID-19 vaccines as "disinformation." Osterholm attributed the death of journalist Grant Wahl to a heart aneurysm and suggested Hamlin's collapse was likely caused by commotio cordis. He urged the public to ignore "terroristic comments" regarding vaccine safety and continue following booster recommendations.

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### NPR Reports on Potential Winter COVID-19 Surge

- **Episode:** [1493: Maiden America](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1493-maiden-america.md)
- **Published:** 2022-10-09
- **Time:** 1:07:06–1:12:09
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1493-maiden-america/chapter/npr-reports-on-potential-winter-covid-19-surge.md

NPR health correspondent Rob Stein and epidemiologist Michael Osterholm warn of a potential tenth COVID-19 surge in the United States, citing rising infection rates in Europe. Officials are monitoring wastewater data in the Northeast and Pacific Northwest for early signs of transmission. There is skepticism regarding the expansion of wastewater testing as a tool for localized lockdowns or increased government surveillance.

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### Michael Osterholm, Sexual Network Transmission Data

- **Episode:** [1474: Heart Dart](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1474-heart-dart.md)
- **Published:** 2022-08-04
- **Time:** 48:35–52:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1474-heart-dart/chapter/michael-osterholm-sexual-network-transmission-data.md

Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm discussed the concentration of monkeypox cases within specific high-activity sexual networks. Citing data from the Netherlands and the U.S., he noted that a small percentage of the population with a high number of sexual partners accounts for the majority of new infections. Osterholm advocates for targeted vaccine distribution to these high-risk groups to manage the global shortage.

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### COVID-19 BA.5 Variant, Michael Osterholm Elevator Warning

- **Episode:** [1467: Ninja Variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1467-ninja-variant.md)
- **Published:** 2022-07-10
- **Time:** 1:08:16–1:13:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1467-ninja-variant/chapter/covid-19-ba-5-variant-michael-osterholm-elevator-warning.md

Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm warns that the new BA.5 Omicron sub-variant is so transmissible that a single elevator ride could lead to infection. The discussion also references a British Medical Journal (BMJ) analysis suggesting that COVID-19 vaccines may carry a higher risk of hospitalization than previously reported.

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### Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccines and Parental Hesitancy

- **Episode:** [1463: Future Framework](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1463-future-framework.md)
- **Published:** 2022-06-26
- **Time:** 44:51–47:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1463-future-framework/chapter/pediatric-covid-19-vaccines-and-parental-hesitancy.md

Dr. Osterholm advocates for the vaccination of children under five, citing hospitalization and death statistics. President Joe Biden is shown visiting a vaccine clinic to encourage parents. The hosts contrast these official pushes with widespread parental hesitancy and concerns over the necessity of the shots for young children.

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### Michael Osterholm, Pfizer Delisting and CNN Alex Jones Doc

- **Episode:** [1432: Dry Holes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1432-dry-holes.md)
- **Published:** 2022-03-11
- **Time:** 3:13:41–3:17:09
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1432-dry-holes/chapter/michael-osterholm-pfizer-delisting-and-cnn-alex-jones-doc.md

Brief news items include COVID advisor Michael Osterholm's purchase of a $3.4 million condo and his continued calls for lockdowns. A rumor regarding Pfizer being delisted from the Nasdaq is clarified as a subsidiary merger. CNN's decision to "kill" a scheduled Alex Jones documentary is discussed, with speculation that it contained information detrimental to the ongoing January 6th investigation.

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### Vaccine Hostile, Insurance Company Mandates

- **Episode:** [1423: Baby Stealers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1423-baby-stealers.md)
- **Published:** 2022-02-06
- **Time:** 40:23–42:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1423-baby-stealers/chapter/vaccine-hostile-insurance-company-mandates.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm introduces the term "vaccine hostile" to describe those refusing boosters. Meanwhile, reports suggest T-Mobile and other corporations are mandating vaccines because insurance companies are threatening to yank their coverage.

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### Adam Curry Appearance on Joe Rogan Experience

- **Episode:** [1415: Equity Hotel](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1415-equity-hotel.md)
- **Published:** 2022-01-09
- **Time:** 1:15:29–1:19:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1415-equity-hotel/chapter/adam-curry-appearance-on-joe-rogan-experience.md

Adam Curry discussed his recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, where he addressed Rogan's talent booker and the booking of expert Michael Osterholm. Curry also spoke about his Tourette's syndrome, which led to an outpouring of support from listeners who also suffer from the condition. Rogan reportedly told Curry that he personally researches and books many of his own guests.

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### Joe Rogan Interview Strategy, Intelligence Asset Open Mic Theory

- **Episode:** [1414: Coof Croup](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1414-coof-croup.md)
- **Published:** 2022-01-09
- **Time:** 59:09–1:04:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1414-coof-croup/chapter/joe-rogan-interview-strategy-intelligence-asset-open-mic-theory.md

The Joe Rogan Experience is characterized by some as an "open mic" for intelligence assets and experts who can be nudged or handled to disseminate specific narratives. Rogan's long-form, non-confrontational style allows guests like Michael Osterholm or Robert Malone to speak for hours, reaching millions of viewers. This reach makes the platform a high-value target for narrative management by various agencies.

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### Michael Osterholm, AM Radio Hosts, COVID-19 Deaths

- **Episode:** [1408: Booster Blitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1408-booster-blitz.md)
- **Published:** 2021-12-27
- **Time:** 9:36–12:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1408-booster-blitz/chapter/michael-osterholm-am-radio-hosts-covid-19-deaths.md

Dr. Michael Osterholm reported that six conservative AM radio talk show hosts who were vocal critics of his policies have recently died from COVID-19. The discussion questions the health status and comorbidities of these specific media personalities. Efforts to verify the identities of these six individuals via search engines are mentioned during the segment.

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