# Off The Grid on The No Agenda Show Off The Grid comes up in 18 chapters across 17 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from March 2010 to February 2021. - **Chapters:** 18 - **Episodes:** 17 - **Discussed:** March 2010 – February 2021 - **Related topics:** [Privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [Digital Detox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-detox.md), [Off-the-grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [Nokia E71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md), [Otg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/otg.md), [Pager](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pager.md), [Surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [Tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tracking.md), [Abhilash Kumar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abhilash-kumar.md), [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md) ## Chapters 1–18 of 18 ### Off-The-Grid Segment, Indian Producer Abhilash Kumar - **Episode:** [1319: Cluster Five](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1319-cluster-five.md) - **Published:** 2021-02-07 - **Time:** 2:39:09–2:43:35 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1319-cluster-five/chapter/off-the-grid-segment-indian-producer-abhilash-kumar.md The hosts conclude the "Off-The-Grid" segment by thanking Abhilash Kumar in India for navigating complex bank transfers to support the show. They also process a knighthood accounting for Sir Alex Frank Bobb, which includes a request for an apple-flavored tobacco hookah. Keywords: [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [abhilash kumar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abhilash-kumar.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [bank transfer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-transfer.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md) ### Bjorn Sandarklevin, TwinSim and Off-The-Grid Lifestyle - **Episode:** [1227: Boozing and Beefing](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1227-boozing-and-beefing.md) - **Published:** 2020-03-26 - **Time:** 1:59:46–2:06:56 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1227-boozing-and-beefing/chapter/bjorn-sandarklevin-twinsim-and-off-the-grid-lifestyle.md Bjorn Sandarklevin from Norway discusses his transition to an "off-the-grid" lifestyle by using a secondary SIM card (TwinSim) in an old Nokia phone. He advocates for owning physical music and devices like the Zune rather than relying on streaming services, while also requesting health karma for his parents. Keywords: [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), twinsim, [nokia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia.md), [zune](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zune.md), [off-the-grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Google Advanced Protection, Ring Doorbell Privacy - **Episode:** [1180: ISIS in Oz](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1180-isis-in-oz.md) - **Published:** 2019-10-13 - **Time:** 2:32:13–2:38:48 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1180-isis-in-oz/chapter/google-advanced-protection-ring-doorbell-privacy.md Google's "Advanced Protection Program" is marketed to activists and journalists, yet the hosts remain skeptical of using Google for privacy. A personal anecdote about the Amazon Ring doorbell app illustrates how its "Neighborhood" feature can increase user anxiety by constantly reporting local crimes, leading to a preference for traditional security measures like peepholes and firearms. Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [amazon ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-ring.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md) ### Digital Detox, iPhone 5 OTG, Show Outro - **Episode:** [1164: Jacked-up Joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1164-jacked-up-joe.md) - **Published:** 2019-08-18 - **Time:** 2:44:39–2:50:57 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1164-jacked-up-joe/chapter/digital-detox-iphone-5-otg-show-outro.md The show concludes with a discussion on "Off The Grid" (OTG) living, with one host using a stripped-down iPhone 5 running Privacy Pro to block tracking. Research suggests that "digital detoxing" can cause withdrawal symptoms similar to quitting smoking. The episode ends with a final push for the value-for-value model and a humorous "Bing It" song parody. Keywords: [digital detox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-detox.md), [iphone 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-5.md), privacy pro, [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [bing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bing.md) ### Knighting Ceremony, Sir Off-the-Grid Lodge - **Episode:** [1126: Truth to Podcaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1126-truth-to-podcaster.md) - **Published:** 2019-04-06 - **Time:** 2:15:24–2:19:33 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1126-truth-to-podcaster/chapter/knighting-ceremony-sir-off-the-grid-lodge.md The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for "Sir Off-the-Grid Lodge" and "Baron of the Valley" (Sir Eric VM). They explain the perks of joining the No Agenda Roundtable, including the physical rings and certificates. A brief "glitch" report explains that recent airport delays were caused by a Microsoft Silverlight and .NET configuration error at a flight weight-and-balance company. Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), sir off-the-grid lodge, baron of the valley, [no agenda roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-roundtable.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md) ### Off-The-Grid Solutions, Nokia E71 Phone - **Episode:** [1112: El Valvador](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1112-el-valvador.md) - **Published:** 2019-02-15 - **Time:** 2:16:06–2:19:29 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1112-el-valvador/chapter/off-the-grid-solutions-nokia-e71-phone.md A host detailed his "off-the-grid" (OTG) lifestyle using a Nokia E71 phone, which lacks modern tracking and social media capabilities. The device features a physical keyboard and a five-day battery life, allowing for basic SMS and calls without the stress of "read receipts" or constant notifications. The shift is described as a way to remove distraction and improve mental health. Keywords: [nokia e71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md), [off-the-grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tracking.md), [battery life](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/battery-life.md) ### International Producer Contributions and Cruise Ship Tech - **Episode:** [1100: Flash Meetup!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1100-flash-meetup.md) - **Published:** 2019-01-04 - **Time:** 2:08:04–2:11:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1100-flash-meetup/chapter/international-producer-contributions-and-cruise-ship-tech.md Donations are acknowledged from producers in Australia, South Carolina, and Missouri. A note from Derek Winky describes his experience going "off the grid" during a cruise by refusing to pay for the onboard internet package, observing the constant smartphone usage of other passengers. Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md), [cruise ship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cruise-ship.md), [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Off-The-Grid Phones, Kyocera E-Ink Device, Lindsey Graham - **Episode:** [1079: Expando-Vision](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1079-expando-vision.md) - **Published:** 2018-10-22 - **Time:** 1:52:10–1:57:50 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1079-expando-vision/chapter/off-the-grid-phones-kyocera-e-ink-device-lindsey-graham.md A new credit-card-sized phone from Kyocera featuring an e-ink screen is presented as part of the "Off-The-Grid" (OTG) movement to avoid Silicon Valley tracking. A 2015 clip of Senator Lindsey Graham smashing his flip phone after Donald Trump leaked his number is used to illustrate the early stages of the trend toward simplified communication devices. Keywords: [kyocera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kyocera.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [e-ink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-ink.md), [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [flip phone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flip-phone.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md) ### Off The Grid, Hearing Aid Tracking, Bluetooth Privacy - **Episode:** [1062: A.I. Zombies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1062-a-i-zombies.md) - **Published:** 2018-08-23 - **Time:** 1:36:00–1:40:50 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1062-a-i-zombies/chapter/off-the-grid-hearing-aid-tracking-bluetooth-privacy.md Adam Curry discusses his transition away from using a smartphone to maintain privacy. However, he discovers a new tracking vulnerability: his Bluetooth-enabled hearing aids broadcast a MAC address 24/7. He realizes that even without a phone, his physical location can be tracked by any nearby Bluetooth receiver. Keywords: [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [bluetooth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth.md), [hearing aids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hearing-aids.md), [mac address](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-address.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md) ### Automated Helper Bots and Cold Turkey Addiction Breaks - **Episode:** [1039: Bot Cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops.md) - **Published:** 2018-06-04 - **Time:** 2:52:43–2:54:58 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops/chapter/automated-helper-bots-and-cold-turkey-addiction-breaks.md The hosts discuss their interactions with automated "helper" bots and the difficulty of enforcing bot-labeling laws. They conclude that the only effective way to break smartphone addiction is to go "cold turkey" and move "off the grid" (OTG) by using devices that do not provide constant notifications and updates. Keywords: [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md), [turing test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turing-test.md), [addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), [smartphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphone.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Symbian OS Open Source, No Agenda Outro - **Episode:** [1033: Swagger](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1033-swagger.md) - **Published:** 2018-05-18 - **Time:** 2:49:54–3:00:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1033-swagger/chapter/symbian-os-open-source-no-agenda-outro.md The hosts conclude the show by discussing the possibility of creating an "Off The Grid" (OTG) phone using the open-sourced Symbian operating system and a Nokia E71 clone. They emphasize the show's mission of providing "life-saving tips" for the digital era. The episode ends with a series of sound bites and the standard sign-off. Keywords: symbian os, [nokia e71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) ### Digital Detox and Testing Low-Tech Feature Phones - **Episode:** [1028: Roscoe!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1028-roscoe.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-26 - **Time:** 1:31:58–1:37:11 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1028-roscoe/chapter/digital-detox-and-testing-low-tech-feature-phones.md An experiment in "digital detox" involves replacing a smartphone with older feature phones to reduce tracking and reclaim personal time. Testing of the Nokia X2-01 revealed challenges with fading 2G GSM networks but provided a functional experience for SMS and webmail via the Brave browser. The goal is to move "off the grid" to avoid the data collection practices of Facebook and Google while reducing the "zombie" behavior associated with modern smartphone use. Keywords: [digital detox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-detox.md), nokia x2, [feature phones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feature-phones.md), 2g networks, [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Earth Day, Newsletter Promotion, Off-The-Grid Update - **Episode:** [1027: Folding Pre-school](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1027-folding-pre-school.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-22 - **Time:** 1:13:59–1:15:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1027-folding-pre-school/chapter/earth-day-newsletter-promotion-off-the-grid-update.md The hosts mark Earth Day and encourage listeners to sign up for the show's newsletter. They provide an update on "Off-The-Grid" (OTG) living, emphasizing that the goal is to escape corporate profiling by Google and Facebook rather than just avoiding government surveillance. Keywords: [earth day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earth-day.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [off-the-grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Adam Curry Off The Grid, Digital Detox Mission - **Episode:** [1023: Warm Hand-Off](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1023-warm-hand-off.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-08 - **Time:** 7:24–9:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1023-warm-hand-off/chapter/adam-curry-off-the-grid-digital-detox-mission.md A host initiates a mission to go "Off The Grid" (OTG) to avoid tracking by Silicon Valley companies and government databases. This personal quest involves a "digital detox" and the use of legacy communication technologies. The transition is framed as a necessary step to maintain privacy in an era of increasing media monitoring. Keywords: [otg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/otg.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [digital detox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-detox.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) ### OTG Jingles, Secret Agent Paul - **Episode:** [1023: Warm Hand-Off](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1023-warm-hand-off.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-08 - **Time:** 1:45:20–1:48:50 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1023-warm-hand-off/chapter/otg-jingles-secret-agent-paul.md New musical jingles celebrating the "Off The Grid" (OTG) lifestyle are debuted, featuring collaborations between Australian musicians Melissa Tallen and Chris Wilson. The tracks are compared to the work of regular contributor Secret Agent Paul. The music serves as a transition into a deeper discussion about digital privacy. Keywords: [otg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/otg.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [secret agent paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-agent-paul.md), melissa tallen, [chris wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-wilson.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### No Agenda Episode 1021 Artwork, OTG Status - **Episode:** [1022: LibJoe](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1022-libjoe.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-05 - **Time:** 1:03:20–1:05:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1022-libjoe/chapter/no-agenda-episode-1021-artwork-otg-status.md The hosts discuss the artwork for Episode 1021, "Sun Burps," created by Comic Strip Blogger, which features a pager symbolizing Adam Curry's "Off The Grid" (OTG) status. Curry clarifies that his move toward using a pager is not an April Fool's joke, despite listener skepticism. Keywords: [comic strip blogger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comic-strip-blogger.md), sun burps, [pager](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pager.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md) ### Adam Curry's Off-The-Grid Strategy, Motorola T900 Pager, and iPod Touch - **Episode:** [1021: Sun Burps](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1021-sun-burps.md) - **Published:** 2018-04-01 - **Time:** 29:10–36:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1021-sun-burps/chapter/adam-curry-s-off-the-grid-strategy-motorola-t900-pager-and-ipod-touch.md Adam Curry details his plan to reduce his digital footprint by abandoning his smartphone in favor of a Motorola T900 two-way pager and an old iPod Touch. He argues that using a pager avoids cellular tower triangulation and app-based tracking while still allowing for essential SMS communication. The hosts debate the practicality of this "retro" approach, specifically regarding modern necessities like Uber and Wi-Fi connectivity. Keywords: motorola t900, [pager](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pager.md), [ipod touch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipod-touch.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tracking.md), [off the grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/off-the-grid.md) ### Aaron Russo Documentary, Income Tax Legality, Living Off the Grid - **Episode:** [182: Magnets In Space](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/182-magnets-in-space.md) - **Published:** 2010-03-14 - **Time:** 5:55–8:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/182-magnets-in-space/chapter/aaron-russo-documentary-income-tax-legality-living-off-the-grid.md Associate Executive Producer Jaap Buitendijk's donation was inspired by the Aaron Russo documentary "America: Freedom to Fascism." The film asserts that there is no federal law obliging Americans to pay income tax on wages. 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