# Music Licensing on The No Agenda Show Music Licensing comes up in 15 chapters across 15 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from January 2009 to December 2025. - **Chapters:** 15 - **Episodes:** 15 - **Discussed:** January 2009 – December 2025 - **Related topics:** [Licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), [Ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [Spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [Austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [Bmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmi.md), [Intellectual Property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md), [Joe Rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [Suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md), [Abigail Shrier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abigail-shrier.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md) ## Chapters 1–15 of 15 ### AI Music Licensing and Rights Holder Probabilities - **Episode:** [1823: Secretary of Egg](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1823-secretary-of-egg.md) - **Published:** 2025-12-07 - **Time:** 2:32:24–2:36:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1823-secretary-of-egg/chapter/ai-music-licensing-and-rights-holder-probabilities.md A report details how AI music companies like Suno and OpenAI are beginning to handle copyright licensing. Specialized agents probe AI models before a song is delivered to a user, calculating the probability that the output resembles a specific rights holder's IP (e.g., the John Denver estate). Fees are then assessed based on these likelihood percentages, creating a new, albeit imprecise, revenue stream for music labels. Keywords: [suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), john denver, [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md) ### AI Music Production and No Agenda Records - **Episode:** [1809: Tomahawk Turnaround](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1809-tomahawk-turnaround.md) - **Published:** 2025-10-19 - **Time:** 2:03:01–2:05:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1809-tomahawk-turnaround/chapter/ai-music-production-and-no-agenda-records.md The rise of AI music tools like Suno allows users to create high-quality songs that are not registered with licensing bodies like ASCAP or BMI, making them ideal for podcast use. The hosts propose launching "No Agenda Records" to publish and promote AI-generated tracks, including parodies and original compositions. They envision a future where AI-produced hits are paired with human performers to create new forms of digital stardom. Keywords: [ai music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-music.md), [suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md), [nico sime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nico-sime.md), [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), [ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) ### Live Podcasting vs. Spotify and Music Licensing Issues - **Episode:** [1660: Doom Goblin](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin.md) - **Published:** 2024-05-16 - **Time:** 1:17:10–1:20:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin/chapter/live-podcasting-vs-spotify-and-music-licensing-issues.md The hosts advocate for live, unedited podcasting as the "raw milk of media." They discuss a notice sent to Spotify regarding unlicensed music in podcasts, predicting that the platform will use AI to deplatform shows, and urge listeners to use modern apps powered by the Podcast Index. Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [podcast index](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-index.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [troll room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troll-room.md) ### Daily Wire Production of DeSantis Campaign Video - **Episode:** [1558: Mediatized](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1558-mediatized.md) - **Published:** 2023-05-25 - **Time:** 1:23:27–1:27:34 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1558-mediatized/chapter/daily-wire-production-of-desantis-campaign-video.md A "No Agenda" investigation reveals that the music used in Ron DeSantis's campaign video, "The Queen of the Violin" by Davis Withhane, was also used in Jordan Peterson's Daily Wire content. This suggests that Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire team may be directly involved in producing DeSantis's campaign media. Keywords: [ron desantis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-desantis.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md), [daily wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-wire.md), [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md) ### Neil Young Spotify Protest and Joe Rogan Controversy - **Episode:** [1420: Caliphate Cubs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1420-caliphate-cubs.md) - **Published:** 2022-01-27 - **Time:** 2:52:11–2:55:59 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1420-caliphate-cubs/chapter/neil-young-spotify-protest-and-joe-rogan-controversy.md Musician Neil Young demanded that his music be removed from Spotify in protest of Joe Rogan's podcast, which he accused of spreading vaccine misinformation. Spotify complied with the request, leading to a broader debate about platform accountability and "consequence culture." The hosts trace the origins of the Rogan controversy back to his interview with Abigail Shrier regarding transgender issues. Keywords: [neil young](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-young.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [abigail shrier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abigail-shrier.md) ### Hollywood Business Opportunity, Political Bullying Anecdote - **Episode:** [1291: The Election Special](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1291-the-election-special.md) - **Published:** 2020-11-05 - **Time:** 41:45–46:46 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1291-the-election-special/chapter/hollywood-business-opportunity-political-bullying-anecdote.md A host recounts a failed business deal with a San Diego-based music licensor who refused to discuss business unless Donald Trump lost the election. The licensor reportedly expressed suicidal ideation over the potential election results. The host withdrew from the opportunity, citing the inappropriate injection of politics into professional discourse and the "bullying" nature of the entertainment industry. Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), political bullying, [cancel culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancel-culture.md) ### Podcast Platform Terms, Licensing and Morality Clauses - **Episode:** [1280: Deplatformed Duo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1280-deplatformed-duo.md) - **Published:** 2020-09-24 - **Time:** 10:07–15:37 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1280-deplatformed-duo/chapter/podcast-platform-terms-licensing-and-morality-clauses.md Major platforms like Amazon Music, Google, and Stitcher are moving toward exclusive content and restrictive licensing agreements. These contracts often include "morality clauses" and grant platforms the right to modify, transcode, or create derivative works from podcast files. The No Agenda Show maintains a policy against signing such agreements to preserve editorial independence and avoid unauthorized monetization of their content. Keywords: [stitcher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stitcher.md), amazon music, [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), derivative works, [terms of service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terms-of-service.md) ### Tom Petty Estate, Performance Rights, Virtue Signaling - **Episode:** [1253: Trained Marxist](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1253-trained-marxist.md) - **Published:** 2020-06-25 - **Time:** 16:41–18:28 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1253-trained-marxist/chapter/tom-petty-estate-performance-rights-virtue-signaling.md The family of the late Tom Petty criticized the Trump campaign for using the song "I Won't Back Down" at the Tulsa rally. Legal analysis suggests the estate has no recourse as long as the venue pays statutory performance rights fees. The hosts characterize the family's public complaint as virtue signaling rather than a valid legal dispute. Keywords: [tom petty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-petty.md), performance rights, [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md), [trump rally](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-rally.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md) ### Capital One and Posthumous Music Licensing - **Episode:** [1076: M-Word](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1076-m-word.md) - **Published:** 2018-10-11 - **Time:** 2:20:00–2:21:28 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1076-m-word/chapter/capital-one-and-posthumous-music-licensing.md The hosts express disgust at Capital One for using music by deceased artists Michael Jackson, Prince, and Whitney Houston in commercials. They criticize the families and record labels for "whoring out" the artists' legacies for advertising purposes. Keywords: [capital one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capital-one.md), [michael jackson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-jackson.md), [prince](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince.md), [whitney houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitney-houston.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md) ### Jen Briney, Congressional Dish and iHeartRadio Licensing - **Episode:** [931: Putin's Playbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/931-putin-s-playbook.md) - **Published:** 2017-05-21 - **Time:** 1:19:40–1:22:16 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/931-putin-s-playbook/chapter/jen-briney-congressional-dish-and-iheartradio-licensing.md Podcaster Jen Briney of "Congressional Dish" reportedly removed her show's theme music and jingles due to licensing restrictions on the iHeartRadio platform. The hosts criticize the move as a compromise of the podcast's identity for the sake of broader distribution. They emphasize the importance of the "Value for Value" model over corporate platform requirements. Keywords: [jen briney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-briney.md), [congressional dish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-dish.md), [iheartradio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iheartradio.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md) ### John Oliver, Campaign Music Licensing - **Episode:** [846: Tardy Party](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/846-tardy-party.md) - **Published:** 2016-07-28 - **Time:** 2:22:39–2:28:42 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/846-tardy-party/chapter/john-oliver-campaign-music-licensing.md John Oliver's "Last Week Tonight" segment on politicians using unauthorized music is criticized for propagating a legal lie. While artists like Queen and Usher complain about Trump using their songs, venues typically pay for blanket ASCAP/BMI licenses that allow such use. The segment argues that as long as the music isn't used as a direct endorsement, the use is legally permitted. Keywords: [john oliver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-oliver.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [bmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmi.md), [queen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queen.md) ### RIAA Lawsuits and the Spotify IPO Strategy - **Episode:** [723: Axe Man](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/723-axe-man.md) - **Published:** 2015-05-25 - **Time:** 1:33:17–1:35:45 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/723-axe-man/chapter/riaa-lawsuits-and-the-spotify-ipo-strategy.md The sudden decline in high-profile RIAA lawsuits against individual music pirates is attributed to industry insiders holding significant stock in Spotify. The strategy has shifted from litigation to building the valuation of streaming platforms for a massive IPO. Major labels are accused of prioritizing platform growth over fair compensation for artists and composers. Keywords: [riaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riaa.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [ipo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipo.md), [music industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-industry.md), [streaming services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming-services.md), [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md) ### Austin Startup Culture, Illegal Music Idea - **Episode:** [462: Flaming Groovies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/462-flaming-groovies.md) - **Published:** 2012-11-18 - **Time:** 1:51:04–1:53:34 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/462-flaming-groovies/chapter/austin-startup-culture-illegal-music-idea.md Adam Curry discusses his experiences with the Austin startup and incubator scene, expressing frustration with "euro trash fever" and people seeking free consulting. He jokingly suggests reviving the "Daily Source Code" with illegal music to see if listeners would donate to support the risk. Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [startups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/startups.md), [incubators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incubators.md), [daily source code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-source-code.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [bob heil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-heil.md) ### Music Licensing Rights, KKR and Bertelsmann Joint Venture - **Episode:** [111: Atlas Shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/111-atlas-shrugged.md) - **Published:** 2009-07-09 - **Time:** 24:10–27:29 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/111-atlas-shrugged/chapter/music-licensing-rights-kkr-and-bertelsmann-joint-venture.md KKR and Bertelsmann have entered a joint venture for music licensing, focusing on the lucrative market of selling song rights for commercials and films. The discussion highlights the complexity of "sync rights" and the high costs associated with using famous tracks, such as Beatles songs, in advertising. Keywords: [kkr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kkr.md), bertelsmann, music rights, [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), synchronization rights ### Trade Show Business Models, ASCAP Music Licensing Fees - **Episode:** [65: The Dead Bee Conspiracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/65-the-dead-bee-conspiracy.md) - **Published:** 2009-01-10 - **Time:** 2:19–7:47 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/65-the-dead-bee-conspiracy/chapter/trade-show-business-models-ascap-music-licensing-fees.md Trade shows serve as primary hubs for wholesale buyers and sellers, though consumer interest in these events has grown significantly. Performance rights organizations like ASCAP and BMI frequently monitor these venues to collect licensing fees from booth operators playing music, a practice that extends to small businesses such as hair salons and workshops. Keywords: [trade shows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-shows.md), [ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [bmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmi.md), [music licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-licensing.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), wholesale --- This is the markdown version of a page on The No Agenda Show for AI agents. 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