# Mozilla on The No Agenda Show

Mozilla comes up in 15 chapters across 14 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from March 2010 to October 2021.

- **Chapters:** 15
- **Episodes:** 14
- **Discussed:** March 2010 – October 2021
- **Related topics:** [Firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), [Google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [Brendan Eich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-eich.md), [Drm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drm.md), [Html5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/html5.md), [Https](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/https.md), [Javascript](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javascript.md), [Net Neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [Amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [Ars Technica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ars-technica.md)

## Chapters 1–15 of 15

### Alternative Search Engines and Brave Browser Origins

- **Episode:** [1393: Space Wake](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1393-space-wake.md)
- **Published:** 2021-10-24
- **Time:** 39:42–43:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1393-space-wake/chapter/alternative-search-engines-and-brave-browser-origins.md

The hosts discuss their shift away from Google Search toward privacy-focused alternatives like DuckDuckGo, Neva, and Brave Search. They recount the history of Brave founder Brendan Eich, who was ousted from Mozilla after a controversy regarding a political donation. The conversation covers the technical merits of different search indexes and the difficulty of completely abandoning Google's mapping and localized services.

Keywords: [duckduckgo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duckduckgo.md), neva, brave search, [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [brendan eich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-eich.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

### Brendan Eich, Brave Browser Security

- **Episode:** [1313: Q Victims](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1313-q-victims.md)
- **Published:** 2021-01-17
- **Time:** 1:17:48–1:21:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1313-q-victims/chapter/brendan-eich-brave-browser-security.md

Brave CEO and JavaScript creator Brendan Eich contacted the show to warn against using the unmaintained Dissenter browser, citing security risks. Eich's history with Mozilla and Netscape is discussed, and the hosts express interest in revisiting the Brave browser for its built-in privacy features.

Keywords: [brendan eich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-eich.md), [brave browser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brave-browser.md), [javascript](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javascript.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [netscape](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netscape.md)

### Gab Phone and GrapheneOS Hardware Alternatives

- **Episode:** [1312: iPhony](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1312-iphony.md)
- **Published:** 2021-01-15
- **Time:** 2:04:17–2:08:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1312-iphony/chapter/gab-phone-and-grapheneos-hardware-alternatives.md

Andrew Torba of Gab announced the development of a "Gab Phone" based on GrapheneOS, designed to operate entirely without Google services. The project aims to bypass App Store censorship as platforms like Telegram and Signal face increased scrutiny. Torba also criticized Mozilla for its "woke" leadership and encouraged the use of the Dissenter and Brave browsers.

Keywords: [gab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gab.md), andrew torba, [grapheneos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grapheneos.md), [smartphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphone.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md)

### Mitchell Baker and the Mozilla Foundation's Net Neutrality Stance

- **Episode:** [1042: Two Dictators](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1042-two-dictators.md)
- **Published:** 2018-06-28
- **Time:** 2:28:04–2:32:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1042-two-dictators/chapter/mitchell-baker-and-the-mozilla-foundation-s-net-neutrality-stance.md

The hosts critique a presentation by Mitchell Baker, chairperson of the Mozilla Foundation, regarding the "physical layers" of the internet. They argue her explanation of net neutrality is "gobbledygook" designed to protect the interests of big tech. They explain the concepts of "peering" and "transit" as the true economic drivers of internet traffic.

Keywords: mitchell baker, [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [peering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peering.md), [transit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transit.md)

### Mozilla's Financial Ties to Google and Executive Compensation

- **Episode:** [1042: Two Dictators](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1042-two-dictators.md)
- **Published:** 2018-06-28
- **Time:** 2:32:45–2:36:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1042-two-dictators/chapter/mozilla-s-financial-ties-to-google-and-executive-compensation.md

The hosts expose the financial relationship between Mozilla and Google, noting that the "non-profit" foundation received hundreds of millions of dollars to make Google the default search engine in Firefox. They highlight Mitchell Baker's $1.1 million compensation package, arguing that Mozilla's "freedom fighter" image is a front for corporate lobbying.

Keywords: [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), mitchell baker, [non-profit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-profit.md), [compensation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/compensation.md)

### DRM Standardization and Hollywood Quid Pro Quo

- **Episode:** [817: Sellout Politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/817-sellout-politics.md)
- **Published:** 2016-04-19
- **Time:** 1:39:55–1:43:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/817-sellout-politics/chapter/drm-standardization-and-hollywood-quid-pro-quo.md

The push for new cable box standards is identified as an effort to create a common API for Digital Rights Management (DRM). The hosts suggest this is a "quid pro quo" for Hollywood and tech companies to ensure controlled content flow across all devices. They argue that the administration's rhetoric about "competition" is disingenuous and masks an anti-competitive play for data and rights control.

Keywords: [drm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drm.md), [html5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/html5.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md)

### Google HTTPS Mandate and Facebook Browser Theory

- **Episode:** [796: Bomb Denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/796-bomb-denmark.md)
- **Published:** 2016-02-05
- **Time:** 2:23:37–2:32:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/796-bomb-denmark/chapter/google-https-mandate-and-facebook-browser-theory.md

Adam Curry posits that Google's aggressive push for HTTPS is a branding exercise to counter a potential Facebook browser. He theorizes that Facebook will integrate Bing search with social data to create a "safe" and highly personalized browsing experience. The hosts discuss the strategic importance of the browser to Google's advertising dominance and the potential for Facebook to disrupt the search market.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [https](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/https.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [chrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chrome.md), [search engine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-engine.md)

### EFF, Mozilla, and Google Financial Ties

- **Episode:** [795: Trump Head](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/795-trump-head.md)
- **Published:** 2016-01-31
- **Time:** 3:02:46–3:06:04
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/795-trump-head/chapter/eff-mozilla-and-google-financial-ties.md

The financial relationship between the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), the Mozilla Foundation, and Google is scrutinized. Google reportedly pays Mozilla $100 million annually to be the default search engine and is a major donor to the EFF. The "HTTPS Everywhere" extension, a collaboration between the EFF and the Tor Project, is introduced as a tool that forces encrypted connections on websites.

Keywords: [eff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eff.md), mozilla foundation, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [tor project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tor-project.md), https everywhere, [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [mtv.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv-com.md)

### Mozilla HTTPS Enforcement, Certificate Authority Monopoly

- **Episode:** [721: Effer in the P Me](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/721-effer-in-the-p-me.md)
- **Published:** 2015-05-14
- **Time:** 2:58:50–3:06:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/721-effer-in-the-p-me/chapter/mozilla-https-enforcement-certificate-authority-monopoly.md

The Mozilla Foundation announces plans to deprecate non-secure HTTP connections in Firefox, mandating HTTPS for all websites. The hosts argue this move, supported by the "Let's Encrypt" initiative, creates a centralized point of control over the web through certificate authorities and will break many legacy devices and small websites.

Keywords: [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), [https](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/https.md), certificate authority, let's encrypt, [internet security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-security.md)

### FCC Net Neutrality Hybrid Proposal and Condé Nast Ownership

- **Episode:** [666: Slavery Enrollment Month](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/666-slavery-enrollment-month.md)
- **Published:** 2014-11-07
- **Time:** 2:07:29–2:13:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/666-slavery-enrollment-month/chapter/fcc-net-neutrality-hybrid-proposal-and-conde-nast-ownership.md

The FCC is reportedly considering a "hybrid" approach to net neutrality that would classify back-end internet services as common carriers while keeping retail services deregulated. The proposal, supported by the Mozilla Foundation, is criticized by the hosts as a way to favor big content providers like Netflix and Hulu. They also note that Ars Technica, which reported on the plan, is owned by Condé Nast.

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), mozilla foundation, [ars technica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ars-technica.md), [conde nast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conde-nast.md), [common carrier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-carrier.md)

### Browser DRM, Mozilla and Cloud Computing

- **Episode:** [624: The Sluggish Cloud](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/624-the-sluggish-cloud.md)
- **Published:** 2014-06-08
- **Time:** 1:51:41–1:55:09
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/624-the-sluggish-cloud/chapter/browser-drm-mozilla-and-cloud-computing.md

Mozilla is incorporating DRM (Digital Rights Management) into its browser to support streaming services like Netflix. This shift toward cloud-based streaming is criticized as technically inferior to local storage, especially given the low cost of high-capacity hard drives and the bandwidth limitations of the "sluggish cloud."

Keywords: [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [drm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drm.md), [html5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/html5.md), [cloud computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloud-computing.md), [storage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storage.md)

### Mozilla CEO Resignation, Google Influence, and Prop 8

- **Episode:** [607: Big Sandy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/607-big-sandy.md)
- **Published:** 2014-04-10
- **Time:** 2:35:07–2:38:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/607-big-sandy/chapter/mozilla-ceo-resignation-google-influence-and-prop-8.md

The resignation of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich is linked to Google's significant financial influence over the organization, as Google provides 90% of Mozilla's revenue. The hosts suggest that Eich's past support for Proposition 8 made him a target for Google executives and journalist Kara Swisher. They contrast the outrage over Eich's personal beliefs with the lack of media attention on the imprisonment of gay men in Egypt.

Keywords: [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [brendan eich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-eich.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [prop 8](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prop-8.md), [kara swisher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kara-swisher.md)

### Brendan Eich, Mozilla Resignation, and the "Gay Mafia"

- **Episode:** [605: "Biostitutes"](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/605-quot-biostitutes-quot.md)
- **Published:** 2014-04-03
- **Time:** 2:05:06–2:11:00
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/605-quot-biostitutes-quot/chapter/brendan-eich-mozilla-resignation-and-the-gay-mafia.md

Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigned following a backlash over his 2008 donation to California's Proposition 8. The dating site OkCupid participated in the protest by displaying a message to Firefox users. The hosts criticize this as a "public relations campaign" and a misuse of the LGBTQ community for commercial interests, specifically to drive users toward Google Chrome.

Keywords: [brendan eich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-eich.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), [okcupid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/okcupid.md), [javascript](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javascript.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md)

### Independent Web Browser Development, Twitter News Director Job Opening

- **Episode:** [510: Furtive Movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/510-furtive-movement.md)
- **Published:** 2013-05-05
- **Time:** 10:36–14:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/510-furtive-movement/chapter/independent-web-browser-development-twitter-news-director-job-opening.md

A proposal is made for a truly independent web browser funded by a $100 million Kickstarter to bypass Google's dominance and potential future censorship of "hate speech." The discussion also covers a job opening for a Director of News and Content at Twitter, noting grammatical errors in the official job description.

Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [web browser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/web-browser.md), [kickstarter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickstarter.md), [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md), news director, job posting

### Firefox Personas, Joel Spolsky Podcast Mention

- **Episode:** [185: VATBS vs AQAP](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/185-vatbs-vs-aqap.md)
- **Published:** 2010-03-25
- **Time:** 0:01–2:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/185-vatbs-vs-aqap/chapter/firefox-personas-joel-spolsky-podcast-mention.md

Software developer Joel Spolsky mentioned the program on his podcast, leading to a discussion about potential public relations titles for him. Firefox version 3.6.2 forced an update on users, introducing a feature called "Personas" that allows users to skin their browser interface. There are concerns that these designs interfere with tab visibility and the ability to close windows.

Keywords: [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), personas, joel spolsky, browser updates, [mozilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mozilla.md)

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