# Mouse on The No Agenda Show

Mouse comes up in 27 chapters across 26 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2009 to July 2026.

- **Chapters:** 27
- **Episodes:** 26
- **Discussed:** February 2009 – July 2026
- **Related topics:** [Australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [Gui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gui.md), [John C. Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [New South Wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-south-wales.md), [Steamboat Willie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steamboat-willie.md), [Studio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/studio.md), [Tech Support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-support.md), [Unix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unix.md), [Windows 10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-10.md), [3d Movie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-movie.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 27

### Sir Face Tension and the Mouse Prediction

- **Episode:** [1889: Producer's Tribute to JCD](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1889-producer-s-tribute-to-jcd.md)
- **Published:** 2026-07-27
- **Time:** 6:37:37–6:39:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1889-producer-s-tribute-to-jcd/chapter/sir-face-tension-and-the-mouse-prediction.md

Sir Face Tension and Jay Dokurti reflect on John C. Dvorak's long career of "naysayer" coverage at tech expos. Dokurti recalls Dvorak's famous (and incorrect) prediction that "no one uses a mouse anymore." Justin Kaler notes that while he came for Adam Curry, he stayed for Dvorak's ability to "buzzkill" media narratives.

Keywords: vero beach, [cranky geeks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cranky-geeks.md), [computer mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-mouse.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), naysayer

### Universe 25 Experiment, Social Interaction Overload, Loneliness Epidemic

- **Episode:** [1845: Slave Slab](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1845-slave-slab.md)
- **Published:** 2026-02-22
- **Time:** 36:56–42:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1845-slave-slab/chapter/universe-25-experiment-social-interaction-overload-loneliness-epidemic.md

The "Universe 25" or "Mouse Paradise" experiment by John B. Calhoun is analyzed as a metaphor for modern human society. The experiment showed that mice in a perfect environment with unlimited resources eventually stopped mating and became extinct due to social interaction overload. This is compared to the current loneliness epidemic and the decline in sexual activity among young people due to the overstimulation of social media.

Keywords: john b. calhoun, universe 25, mouse paradise, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [loneliness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/loneliness.md), mating habits

### SAS Flight Emergency Landing Due to Mouse in Meal

- **Episode:** [1697: neat-o](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1697-neat-o.md)
- **Published:** 2024-09-22
- **Time:** 1:34:11–1:36:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1697-neat-o/chapter/sas-flight-emergency-landing-due-to-mouse-in-meal.md

A Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) flight from Oslo to Malaga was forced to make an emergency landing in Copenhagen after a mouse scurried out of a passenger's in-flight meal. The diversion followed airline safety procedures intended to prevent rodents from chewing through electrical wiring. Passengers were eventually transferred to a different aircraft to complete their journey to Spain.

Keywords: [sas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sas.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md), [mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mouse.md), [emergency landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-landing.md)

### Addiction Definitions, The Computer Mouse and Habituation

- **Episode:** [1667: Heavy Tail](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1667-heavy-tail.md)
- **Published:** 2024-06-09
- **Time:** 2:13:26–2:15:37
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1667-heavy-tail/chapter/addiction-definitions-the-computer-mouse-and-habituation.md

A host recounts an interview with an addiction expert from 25 years ago regarding the theory that the computer mouse acts as an "addictive implement" similar to a slot machine lever. The expert argued that most behaviors labeled as "addiction" are actually "habituation," maintaining a strict definition reserved for substances like heroin. Despite the expert's disagreement, the host published the column, reflecting on the media's tendency to over-pathologize common habits.

Keywords: [addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/addiction.md), habituation, [computer mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-mouse.md), slot machine, [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md)

### Remote Work Productivity, Dollar Devaluation, Troll Room AI

- **Episode:** [1662: Rousting Granny](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1662-rousting-granny.md)
- **Published:** 2024-05-23
- **Time:** 1:09:15–1:14:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1662-rousting-granny/chapter/remote-work-productivity-dollar-devaluation-troll-room-ai.md

Despite a booming stock market, concerns are raised about the actual productivity of the remote workforce and the devaluation of the US dollar against the Japanese Yen. Some employees reportedly use "mouse jigglers" to simulate activity while working from home, though others argue remote work is still more efficient than office environments. The segment also mentions "Doug," a long-standing AI presence in the show's digital "Troll Room."

Keywords: [remote work](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-work.md), pto, [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [yen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yen.md), [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), mouse jigglers

### E. Jean Carroll and Rachel Maddow Interview

- **Episode:** [1630: Potty Mouth Parrots](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1630-potty-mouth-parrots.md)
- **Published:** 2024-02-01
- **Time:** 1:39:02–1:42:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1630-potty-mouth-parrots/chapter/e-jean-carroll-and-rachel-maddow-interview.md

E. Jean Carroll appeared on the Rachel Maddow Show following her $83 million defamation award against Donald Trump. During the interview, Carroll joked about taking Maddow shopping and buying penthouses in France. The hosts reference a documentary about Carroll's eccentric lifestyle, including her "Mouse House" and her claims regarding the legal system.

Keywords: [e. jean carroll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-jean-carroll.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [defamation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defamation.md), mouse house

### Mickey Mouse Public Domain, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

- **Episode:** [1620: Yoko Swifto](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1620-yoko-swifto.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-28
- **Time:** 38:24–43:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1620-yoko-swifto/chapter/mickey-mouse-public-domain-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.md

Steamboat Willie, the original version of Mickey Mouse, enters the public domain on January 1, 2024. The discussion transitions to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, noting snubs of artists like Cher, Sonny Bono, and Ted Nugent. The hosts contrast the modern HBO-produced ceremony with the private, unrehearsed jam sessions held at the Waldorf Astoria in the late 1980s.

Keywords: [mickey mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-mouse.md), [public domain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-domain.md), [steamboat willie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steamboat-willie.md), [rock and roll hall of fame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.md), [cher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cher.md)

### Analog Clocks and Cursive Writing in Education

- **Episode:** [1573: 4 No Youth](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1573-4-no-youth.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-16
- **Time:** 1:21:48–1:25:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1573-4-no-youth/chapter/analog-clocks-and-cursive-writing-in-education.md

The hosts argue that wearing a wristwatch and learning to read analog clocks provides essential training in perceiving the "flow" of time. They link the decline in time management skills among "Zoomers" to the removal of analog clocks and cursive writing from school curricula. They suggest that digital numbers do not provide the same sense of completion as a circular clock face.

Keywords: mickey mouse watch, [analog clock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/analog-clock.md), cursive writing, [zoomers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoomers.md), time perception

### ChatGPT-4 John C. Dvorak Profile, Mouse Skepticism

- **Episode:** [1539: Putinoids](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1539-putinoids.md)
- **Published:** 2023-03-19
- **Time:** 1:54:31–2:01:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1539-putinoids/chapter/chatgpt-4-john-c-dvorak-profile-mouse-skepticism.md

ChatGPT-4 provides a generally accurate profile of John C. Dvorak's career at PC Magazine but fails to mention his 15-year history in podcasting. The AI also hallucinates a nuanced evolution of Dvorak's views on the computer mouse, claiming he now sees it as a tool for video editing. The segment highlights the AI's tendency to smooth over controversial history with generic accolades.

Keywords: chatgpt-4, [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), [computer mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-mouse.md), tech skepticism

### Dink Mouse Review and Bespoke Computer Hardware

- **Episode:** [1530: Red Queen](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1530-red-queen.md)
- **Published:** 2023-02-16
- **Time:** 2:10:30–2:15:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1530-red-queen/chapter/dink-mouse-review-and-bespoke-computer-hardware.md

The hosts reviewed the "Dink" mouse, a bespoke, small-batch computer peripheral featuring a unique side scroll wheel and fabric-sleeved cable. While one host prefers the IBM "trackpoint" nub, both praised the Dink's build quality and functional art aesthetic. The company offered a discount to "No Agenda" producers interested in trying the unconventional ergonomic design.

Keywords: dink mouse, trackball, [ergonomics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ergonomics.md), bespoke, hardware review

### New York City Vaccine Apps, Excelsior Pass Security

- **Episode:** [1371: Bald Nancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1371-bald-nancy.md)
- **Published:** 2021-08-09
- **Time:** 1:09:06–1:12:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1371-bald-nancy/chapter/new-york-city-vaccine-apps-excelsior-pass-security.md

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced a vaccine requirement for indoor dining and gyms. Security experts, including Albert Fox Cahn, demonstrated flaws in the city's "NYC COVID Safe" app by successfully uploading a photo of Mickey Mouse as a valid vaccine record. Additionally, the state's "Excelsior Pass" was reportedly hacked in 11 minutes, raising concerns about the security and efficacy of digital vaccine passports.

Keywords: [bill de blasio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-de-blasio.md), [excelsior pass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/excelsior-pass.md), nyc covid safe, albert fox cahn, [mickey mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-mouse.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md)

### Australian Mouse Plague, PETA Humane Control Controversy

- **Episode:** [1349: Wappie](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1349-wappie.md)
- **Published:** 2021-05-23
- **Time:** 2:31:21–2:36:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1349-wappie/chapter/australian-mouse-plague-peta-humane-control-controversy.md

A massive mouse plague is devastating rural New South Wales and spreading toward Sydney and Canberra, causing millions of dollars in crop damage. While farmers are using strong poisons and homemade traps to manage the infestation, PETA has drawn criticism for suggesting "humane trapping" and "birth control" for the rodents. Residents describe the psychological stress of cleaning excrement and seeing thousands of mice blanketing the roads at night.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), mouse plague, [new south wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-south-wales.md), [peta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peta.md), [invasive species](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/invasive-species.md)

### New South Wales, Mouse Plague Crisis

- **Episode:** [1348: Belching Freon](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1348-belching-freon.md)
- **Published:** 2021-05-20
- **Time:** 1:06:31–1:11:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1348-belching-freon/chapter/new-south-wales-mouse-plague-crisis.md

New South Wales is currently experiencing a massive mouse plague that has infested homes, schools, and farms across a 500-mile stretch. Broadcaster Alan Jones reported on the psychological and economic toll of the infestation, which has destroyed grain stores and caused significant distress to families in the Australian bush.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [new south wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-south-wales.md), mouse plague, [agriculture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agriculture.md), [alan jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-jones.md)

### Rosemary Fry, Lab-Based Virus Studies and Mouse Models

- **Episode:** [1322: Dark Fate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1322-dark-fate.md)
- **Published:** 2021-02-18
- **Time:** 1:01:33–1:06:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1322-dark-fate/chapter/rosemary-fry-lab-based-virus-studies-and-mouse-models.md

Researcher Rosemary Fry challenges the scientific consensus on COVID-19 variants, arguing that claims of increased transmissibility are based on flawed lab studies rather than field evidence. She asserts that these studies rely on engineered decoy receptors and specific mouse models that do not reflect real-world human interaction. Fry suggests the media sensationalizes these lab findings to drive fear and secure funding.

Keywords: rosemary fry, [sars-cov-2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sars-cov-2.md), mouse models, petri dish, transmissibility

### Command Line, Unix Shell and the Mouse

- **Episode:** [1247: Masks are Love](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1247-masks-are-love.md)
- **Published:** 2020-06-04
- **Time:** 3:05:45–3:10:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1247-masks-are-love/chapter/command-line-unix-shell-and-the-mouse.md

A technical discussion explores the efficiency of the command line interface versus the graphical user interface (GUI). The claim is made that the mouse and "copy-paste" culture turned computer users into "human monkeys" by breaking the ability to easily pipe data between applications. The host describes a new system setup using a Unix shell that allows for faster information processing.

Keywords: [command line](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/command-line.md), [unix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unix.md), [mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mouse.md), [gui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gui.md), copy-paste

### RC Mouse, Furry Con and Studio Privacy

- **Episode:** [1203: RET](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1203-ret.md)
- **Published:** 2020-01-02
- **Time:** 1:15:30–1:18:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1203-ret/chapter/rc-mouse-furry-con-and-studio-privacy.md

Donor RC Mouse discusses the Furry Con meetup in Chicago. This leads to an anecdote about a large, battery-powered furry dog head found at a junkyard. One host reiterates a strict policy against allowing visitors into the home studio, despite requests from friends and associates.

Keywords: rc mouse, furry con, [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), dog head, [studio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/studio.md)

### Pornado Coining and 1984 Steve Jobs Prediction

- **Episode:** [1095: Yeah No](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1095-yeah-no.md)
- **Published:** 2018-12-17
- **Time:** 2:19:58–2:25:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1095-yeah-no/chapter/pornado-coining-and-1984-steve-jobs-prediction.md

A 1984 newspaper column by John C. Dvorak is revisited, in which he predicted the Apple Macintosh would fail because of its use of a mouse. The "No Such Thing as Fish" podcast recently cited this column, leading to a discussion about historical context and the coining of the term "pornado" for pop-up ad storms.

Keywords: pornado, [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [apple macintosh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-macintosh.md), [mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mouse.md), [stephen fry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-fry.md)

### Windows Ease of Access and Mouse Pointer Settings

- **Episode:** [995: Missile by Nike](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/995-missile-by-nike.md)
- **Published:** 2018-01-02
- **Time:** 2:12:52–2:15:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/995-missile-by-nike/chapter/windows-ease-of-access-and-mouse-pointer-settings.md

A host attempts to configure a Windows 10 feature that highlights the mouse pointer when the control key is pressed. The segment serves as a brief critique of the Microsoft user interface, noting that certain legacy features are now buried within "Ease of Access" menus and may not function as reliably as in previous versions.

Keywords: [windows 10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-10.md), mouse settings, ease of access, [tech support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-support.md), [user interface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/user-interface.md)

### Old Phrases, Idioms, and Piss Poor Origins

- **Episode:** [912: Bully Box](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/912-bully-box.md)
- **Published:** 2017-03-16
- **Time:** 2:42:43–2:53:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/912-bully-box/chapter/old-phrases-idioms-and-piss-poor-origins.md

The hosts review a list of old phrases and idioms submitted by listeners, including "too big for your britches" and "thick as thieves." They explore the origin of the term "piss poor," which dates back to when poor families sold their urine to tanneries for leather processing. The segment also covers the term "bender," referring to bending one's elbow to drink.

Keywords: [idioms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idioms.md), [phrases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phrases.md), piss poor, bender, [mickey mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-mouse.md), sam hill

### Disney Copyright, Steamboat Willie and ABC Anti-Trump Bias

- **Episode:** [911: Opinews](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/911-opinews.md)
- **Published:** 2017-03-12
- **Time:** 1:03:42–1:06:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/911-opinews/chapter/disney-copyright-steamboat-willie-and-abc-anti-trump-bias.md

Adam Curry posits a theory that ABC's aggressive anti-Trump stance is motivated by Disney's fear of losing copyright protection for Mickey Mouse (Steamboat Willie) in 2018. He suggests the network is pressuring the administration to ensure further copyright extensions.

Keywords: [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), [steamboat willie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steamboat-willie.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [mickey mouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-mouse.md)

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