# Michael Chertoff on The No Agenda Show Michael Chertoff comes up in 26 chapters across 24 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from February 2010 to May 2022. - **Chapters:** 26 - **Episodes:** 24 - **Discussed:** February 2010 – May 2022 - **Related topics:** [Tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [Homeland Security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [Body Scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [Chertoff Group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [Dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [Rapiscan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rapiscan.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [Airport Security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), [Black Hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md) ## Chapters 1–20 of 26 ### Disinformation Governance Board and Nina Jankowicz Resignation - **Episode:** [1453: Shoehorn Event](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event.md) - **Published:** 2022-05-22 - **Time:** 2:38:04–2:46:02 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event/chapter/disinformation-governance-board-and-nina-jankowicz-resignation.md Nina Jankowicz resigned from the Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Governance Board after only three weeks following intense public criticism. NPR reports suggest the board failed due to a "lack of information" and "mischaracterization" by conservatives, while the hosts note that Michael Chertoff remains involved in the underlying program. Keywords: [nina jankowicz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nina-jankowicz.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md) ### ISIS Bomb-Making, New Airport Scanners - **Episode:** [930: Off Script](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/930-off-script.md) - **Published:** 2017-05-18 - **Time:** 1:43:25–1:47:01 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/930-off-script/chapter/isis-bomb-making-new-airport-scanners.md U.S. officials claim ISIS developed explosives concealed in laptops at Mosul University, capable of evading current airport scanners. This development is expected to drive a global mandate for new scanning technology, benefiting companies like L3 Technologies and firms associated with Michael Chertoff. The "laptop ban" on flights is framed as a precursor to a massive industry-wide equipment upgrade. Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), mosul university, [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), l3 technologies, [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md) ### Michael Chertoff, George W. Bush and 9/11 Defense - **Episode:** [767: Frontier Science](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/767-frontier-science.md) - **Published:** 2015-10-22 - **Time:** 2:17:50–2:21:51 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/767-frontier-science/chapter/michael-chertoff-george-w-bush-and-9-11-defense.md Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff defended George W. Bush's record on national security during an interview with Wolf Blitzer. Chertoff listed the creation of tougher travel barriers, expanded intelligence capabilities, and the invasion of Afghanistan as key successes. The hosts criticize Chertoff's defense, characterizing the measures as an assault on civil liberties and a expansion of the surveillance state. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md) ### Holocaust Museum Syrian Exhibit, Code Name Caesar - **Episode:** [664: Boss Ass Look](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/664-boss-ass-look.md) - **Published:** 2014-10-26 - **Time:** 43:35–48:27 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/664-boss-ass-look/chapter/holocaust-museum-syrian-exhibit-code-name-caesar.md The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum hosts an exhibit featuring images of killings in Syria, drawing parallels to the Holocaust. A witness code-named "Caesar" provided photographic evidence of atrocities, though technical issues resulted in the loss of GPS metadata. Critics argue the exhibit serves a political agenda to justify intervention against the Assad regime and its Russian allies. Keywords: [holocaust museum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holocaust-museum.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), caesar, [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [elie wiesel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elie-wiesel.md) ### DHS Employee Exodus, Michael Chertoff's "Shadow DHS" - **Episode:** [657: bio-hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking.md) - **Published:** 2014-10-03 - **Time:** 2:05:32–2:09:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking/chapter/dhs-employee-exodus-michael-chertoff-s-shadow-dhs.md The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is reportedly facing a "leadership vacuum" as high-level employees flee the agency due to low morale and better pay in the private sector. Many former officials are joining the Chertoff Group, a consultancy led by former Secretary Michael Chertoff, which has been nicknamed "Shadow DHS." This mass exodus is said to be stalling key initiatives in cybersecurity and border security. Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md) ### DHS Power Struggles, Potential Dismantling of the Agency - **Episode:** [657: bio-hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking.md) - **Published:** 2014-10-03 - **Time:** 2:31:35–2:34:36 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking/chapter/dhs-power-struggles-potential-dismantling-of-the-agency.md Internal power struggles within the U.S. national security apparatus suggest a potential move to dismantle or significantly reorganize the Department of Homeland Security. FBI Director James Comey is seen as competing for influence, while the Secret Service and Coast Guard's placement under DHS is questioned. There is speculation that functions like airport security could eventually be outsourced to private contractors like the Chertoff Group. Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md) ### Michael Hayden, Ground Truth and Human Penetration - **Episode:** [647: Flood the Zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone.md) - **Published:** 2014-09-06 - **Time:** 1:26:00–1:31:57 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone/chapter/michael-hayden-ground-truth-and-human-penetration.md Former CIA Director Michael Hayden discusses the need to "flood the zone" with intelligence to combat ISIS. He specifically mentions the need for "ground truth" to enable targeted operations, which the hosts link to the Ground Truth Project organization. A linguistic confusion arises over Hayden's use of the phrase "human penetration" in the context of intelligence gathering. Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [ground truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ground-truth.md), jordanians, turks, [kurds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurds.md) ### Michael Chertoff and the Internet of Things Fear-Mongering - **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos.md) - **Published:** 2014-05-15 - **Time:** 55:17–1:00:38 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos/chapter/michael-chertoff-and-the-internet-of-things-fear-mongering.md Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is criticized for using the "Internet of Things" to stoke fears about hackers compromising pacemakers, cars, and home appliances. The hosts argue that the primary purpose of connected devices is to deliver targeted advertising rather than to provide utility. They dismiss the security concerns as a "money bonanza" for cybersecurity consultants and government contractors. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md) ### Michael Chertoff, Internet of Things, and Smart Refrigerator Scams - **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2.md) - **Published:** 2014-05-15 - **Time:** 55:17–1:00:38 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/michael-chertoff-internet-of-things-and-smart-refrigerator-scams.md Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is heard warning about the security risks of the "Internet of Things," including hacked pacemakers and thermostats. The hosts dismiss these fears as a marketing ploy to sell consulting services. They argue that "smart" appliances are actually designed to deliver advertising and track consumer behavior rather than provide utility. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md) ### Keith Alexander, Chertoff Group and Intelligence Consulting - **Episode:** [557: Kalemia](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia.md) - **Published:** 2013-10-17 - **Time:** 2:13:34–2:17:02 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/keith-alexander-chertoff-group-and-intelligence-consulting.md General Keith Alexander is reportedly stepping down as head of the NSA, leading to speculation about his future in the private sector. The hosts predict he will likely join a firm like the Chertoff Group or start his own intelligence consulting operation. They characterize Alexander as a "geek" who successfully built a massive surveillance apparatus and now possesses valuable information on political figures. Keywords: [keith alexander](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-alexander.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [consulting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consulting.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md) ### Michael Hayden Kill List, Chertoff Group Sales - **Episode:** [554: Slave Bracelet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/554-slave-bracelet.md) - **Published:** 2013-10-06 - **Time:** 2:26:47–2:29:32 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/554-slave-bracelet/chapter/michael-hayden-kill-list-chertoff-group-sales.md Former NSA Director Michael Hayden and Congressman Mike Rogers are reported to have joked about putting Edward Snowden on a kill list. The hosts discuss Hayden's current role at the Chertoff Group, where he promotes security services and scanners. Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [kill list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kill-list.md), torture program, [scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scanners.md) ### Chertoff Group, Media Bookings, Rubicon Comparison - **Episode:** [507: Airplane Apocalypse](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/507-airplane-apocalypse.md) - **Published:** 2013-04-25 - **Time:** 2:26:30–2:32:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/507-airplane-apocalypse/chapter/chertoff-group-media-bookings-rubicon-comparison.md The Chertoff Group's heavy presence on Sunday news shows is highlighted as a coordinated PR effort. The hosts compare the group's influence and involvement in multi-billion dollar mergers to the fictional "Atlas McDowell" company from the series Rubicon. Keywords: [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [rubicon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rubicon.md), [pr agency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pr-agency.md), m&a ### Michael Chertoff, Behavioral Detection and Radicalization - **Episode:** [429: Gross, Surprising & Scary](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/429-gross-surprising-scary.md) - **Published:** 2012-07-27 - **Time:** 19:04–22:02 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/429-gross-surprising-scary/chapter/michael-chertoff-behavioral-detection-and-radicalization.md Former Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff discusses the need for better detection of early warning signs of derangement or terrorism. He references the Fort Hood shooting and Major Nidal Hassan as examples of a "failure of imagination" in identifying radicalization. The hosts suggest Chertoff is using these tragedies to promote advanced surveillance technology and brain scanners. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [fort hood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-hood.md), [nidal hassan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nidal-hassan.md), [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md) ### Michael Chertoff on Terrorism and TSA Deterrence - **Episode:** [335: Aardvark Effect](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/335-aardvark-effect.md) - **Published:** 2011-09-01 - **Time:** 2:10:42–2:17:06 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/335-aardvark-effect/chapter/michael-chertoff-on-terrorism-and-tsa-deterrence.md Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is criticized for his comments at the Aspen Institute regarding "homegrown" terrorists and the "aardvark effect." Chertoff argued that the TSA is meant to deter rather than catch terrorists, comparing it to Fort Knox. Meanwhile, the 9/11 military commissions at Guantanamo Bay remain stalled ten years after the attacks. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [guantanamo bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guantanamo-bay.md) ### Killer Amoeba, Fukushima Radiation, Michael Chertoff - **Episode:** [332: Bud Nip](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/332-bud-nip.md) - **Published:** 2011-08-21 - **Time:** 2:00:26–2:03:36 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/332-bud-nip/chapter/killer-amoeba-fukushima-radiation-michael-chertoff.md The hosts preview a deconstruction of Michael Chertoff's recent comments at the Aspen Security Forum. They also discuss a "killer amoeba" story trending in the media, which they suspect is a promotional tie-in for an upcoming movie. Finally, they report on a study finding radioactive elements in the thyroid glands of children near the Fukushima nuclear plant, criticizing the Japanese government's response. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [fukushima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fukushima.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), [thyroid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thyroid.md), killer amoeba, [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [aspen security forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspen-security-forum.md) ### Janet Napolitano and Department of Homeland Security Expansion - **Episode:** [331: Ricin Beans](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/331-ricin-beans.md) - **Published:** 2011-08-18 - **Time:** 5:06–7:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/331-ricin-beans/chapter/janet-napolitano-and-department-of-homeland-security-expansion.md Secretary Janet Napolitano launched the "See Something, Say Something" campaign at the Chamber of Commerce alongside former secretaries Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff. The Department of Homeland Security has grown to become the third-largest federal department, trailing only Defense and State. Critics point out that former secretaries now profit by selling security scanners and technology back to the agency they once led. Keywords: [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [department of homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-homeland-security.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [tom ridge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-ridge.md), [chamber of commerce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chamber-of-commerce.md) ### Chertoff Group and the .Secure Domain Proposal - **Episode:** [321: Internet in a Suitcase](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/321-internet-in-a-suitcase.md) - **Published:** 2011-07-14 - **Time:** 1:21:25–1:26:30 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/321-internet-in-a-suitcase/chapter/chertoff-group-and-the-secure-domain-proposal.md The Chertoff Group is promoting a new ".secure" internet domain that would require users to forfeit anonymity in exchange for enhanced cybersecurity. Managing Director Larry Castro explained that users would undergo rigorous authentication, potentially using dedicated machines for banking. The hosts warn that this initiative, while framed as voluntary, is a step toward total government tracking of online activity. Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), larry castro, .secure, [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [anonymity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymity.md) ### Rapiscan Lawsuit, Michael Chertoff and Body Scanners - **Episode:** [261: AQ-USA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/261-aq-usa.md) - **Published:** 2010-12-16 - **Time:** 40:39–44:03 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/261-aq-usa/chapter/rapiscan-lawsuit-michael-chertoff-and-body-scanners.md A host recounts a meeting with a high-powered lawyer who represented Rapiscan in a $129 million lawsuit against L3 Communications over backscatter technology patents. The conversation touches on the involvement of Michael Chertoff and the CEO of Rapiscan, Deepak Chopra (not the spiritual leader), who traveled with President Obama to India. Keywords: [rapiscan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rapiscan.md), [l3 communications](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/l3-communications.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [deepak chopra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepak-chopra.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md) ### Chris Matthews, Ginger McCall, Michael Chertoff Corruption Allegations - **Episode:** [255: Radioactive Butts](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/255-radioactive-butts.md) - **Published:** 2010-11-25 - **Time:** 35:10–40:24 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/255-radioactive-butts/chapter/chris-matthews-ginger-mccall-michael-chertoff-corruption-allegations.md MSNBC host Chris Matthews is criticized for his interview with EPIC lawyer Ginger McCall regarding the scanners. During the segment, McCall points to the "revolving door" between the government and security vendors, specifically naming former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. Matthews is accused of shouting down the guest and ignoring documented ties between Chertoff's consulting firm and scanner manufacturers. Keywords: [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), ginger mccall, [epic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epic.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md) ### Representative John Duncan, Security Industrial Complex - **Episode:** [253: Love Pats](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/253-love-pats.md) - **Published:** 2010-11-18 - **Time:** 39:31–41:59 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/253-love-pats/chapter/representative-john-duncan-security-industrial-complex.md Representative John Duncan delivered a floor speech criticizing the $300 million expenditure on airport scanners, labeling it a matter of money rather than security. Duncan highlighted the role of former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, whose firm represents Rapiscan, the company selling the scanners to the government. 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