# Internet Law on The No Agenda Show

Internet Law comes up in 13 chapters across 13 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from May 2008 to June 2019.

- **Chapters:** 13
- **Episodes:** 13
- **Discussed:** May 2008 – June 2019
- **Related topics:** [Internet Regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-regulation.md), [Law Enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md), [4chan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/4chan.md), [Background Checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), [Belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [Censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [Centralization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/centralization.md), [Communications Decency Act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communications-decency-act.md), [Copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [European Union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md)

## Chapters 1–13 of 13

### Section 230 and the Publisher vs Platform Legal Muddle

- **Episode:** [1145: Dumb Meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat.md)
- **Published:** 2019-06-10
- **Time:** 52:15–1:00:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/section-230-and-the-publisher-vs-platform-legal-muddle.md

The legal protections of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act are under scrutiny as tech platforms act more like traditional publishers. While companies claim they are not publishers to avoid liability, they simultaneously invoke First Amendment editorial rights to justify content moderation. The hosts argue that by using algorithms to curate and promote content, these companies have effectively become authors and publishers.

Keywords: [section 230](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-230.md), [communications decency act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communications-decency-act.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), internet association, [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [tort law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tort-law.md)

### Fact-Checking Internet Gun Sales and Background Check Loopholes

- **Episode:** [788: Mental Defectives](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/788-mental-defectives.md)
- **Published:** 2016-01-07
- **Time:** 39:07–43:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/788-mental-defectives/chapter/fact-checking-internet-gun-sales-and-background-check-loopholes.md

President Obama's claims regarding the ease of buying guns over the internet are challenged by the fact that online purchases must still be shipped to a Federally Licensed Firearms (FFL) dealer for a background check. The "gun show loophole" is described as a mischaracterization of private sales. One specific executive action—making the background check system available 24/7—is noted as potentially making gun sales easier rather than harder.

Keywords: [gun laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-laws.md), [background checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), ffl, internet sales, gun shows

### Turkey Internet Law and Fethullah Gulen Conflict

- **Episode:** [591: Mipster Intercept](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/591-mipster-intercept.md)
- **Published:** 2014-02-13
- **Time:** 2:37:39–2:41:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/591-mipster-intercept/chapter/turkey-internet-law-and-fethullah-gulen-conflict.md

Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan is pushing for new legislation that would allow the government to block websites without a court order and require ISPs to store user browsing history for two years. These measures have sparked violent protests in Istanbul, though Erdogan claims the laws are similar to those already in place in the U.S. and Europe. The move is part of a broader power struggle between Erdogan and the Gulenist "Hizmet" movement.

Keywords: [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [recep tayyip erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recep-tayyip-erdogan.md), [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md), [internet law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-law.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

### Curry's Law of Centralization, Google Fiber Server Ban

- **Episode:** [535: Swivel-Chair Speed](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/535-swivel-chair-speed.md)
- **Published:** 2013-08-01
- **Time:** 1:34:56–1:39:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/535-swivel-chair-speed/chapter/curry-s-law-of-centralization-google-fiber-server-ban.md

"Curry's Law" is introduced: "The more technology is centralized, the more it enslaves us." This is contrasted with "Dvorak's Law" regarding hookers in a depression. The centralization of the internet through platforms like Facebook and Google is criticized, specifically noting that Google Fiber prohibits users from running their own servers, further stripping away the original decentralized nature of the internet.

Keywords: curry's law, [centralization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/centralization.md), [google fiber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-fiber.md), [internet freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-freedom.md), [isp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isp.md)

### Eurozone Recession, Greek Journalist Retrial

- **Episode:** [462: Flaming Groovies](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/462-flaming-groovies.md)
- **Published:** 2012-11-18
- **Time:** 2:21:19–2:26:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/462-flaming-groovies/chapter/eurozone-recession-greek-journalist-retrial.md

The Eurozone officially enters a recession after two quarters of negative growth. In Greece, journalist Costas Vaxevanis faces a retrial for publishing the "Lagarde List" of alleged tax evaders. The show concludes with a note on new internet laws in the UAE and a final sign-off for the Thanksgiving episode.

Keywords: [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), costas vaxevanis, [lagarde list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lagarde-list.md), uae internet laws, [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

### Saudi Influence, Sharia Law in Europe

- **Episode:** [427: Huma-Gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/427-huma-gate.md)
- **Published:** 2012-07-19
- **Time:** 1:09:29–1:16:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/427-huma-gate/chapter/saudi-influence-sharia-law-in-europe.md

The discussion shifts to the influence of Saudi Arabia on the Muslim Brotherhood and Western politicians. Adam Curry highlights the erosion of free speech in Europe, citing the trial of Geert Wilders and laws preventing the disparagement of religion. They argue that "Sharia for Holland" and similar groups are working to implement Islamic law within the European Union.

Keywords: [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [sharia law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sharia-law.md), [geert wilders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geert-wilders.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), internet freedom act

### Law Enforcement and the Burden of Investigation

- **Episode:** [373: Paraphilia](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/373-paraphilia.md)
- **Published:** 2012-01-12
- **Time:** 43:40–46:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/373-paraphilia/chapter/law-enforcement-and-the-burden-of-investigation.md

The hosts discuss the motivations behind SOPA and PIPA, suggesting that law enforcement agencies prefer automated "DNS poisoning" over traditional, labor-intensive investigations. Curry recounts a conversation with an FBI agent from the 1990s to illustrate the long-standing desire for built-in monitoring and enforcement mechanisms in consumer electronics.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md), dns poisoning, [internet regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-regulation.md), [judicial system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judicial-system.md)

### Streaming Laws, All-Talk Format Change, Louis Louis

- **Episode:** [314: Qaeda CEO](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/314-qaeda-ceo.md)
- **Published:** 2011-06-19
- **Time:** 2:03:07–2:06:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/314-qaeda-ceo/chapter/streaming-laws-all-talk-format-change-louis-louis.md

Vice President Joe Biden's comments comparing illegal streaming to "breaking the window at Tiffany's" signal new strict laws that could lead to jail time for streamers. In response, the hosts consider changing the No Agenda stream to an "All Talk" format to avoid music licensing issues. They jokingly suggest a 24/7 "Louis Louis" or "Don Ho" station as a fallback.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), streaming law, [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [internet radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-radio.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

### Tennessee Harassment Law, Distressing Images Legislation

- **Episode:** [312: Illegal in Tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/312-illegal-in-tennessee.md)
- **Published:** 2011-06-12
- **Time:** 2:13:30–2:17:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/312-illegal-in-tennessee/chapter/tennessee-harassment-law-distressing-images-legislation.md

Tennessee passed a new law making it a crime to post images that cause emotional distress without a legitimate purpose. The hosts argue the law is unconstitutional and could be used to criminalize internet gags or controversial political content, leading them to jokingly declare the podcast illegal in the state.

Keywords: [tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tennessee.md), [harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harassment.md), distressing images, [internet law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-law.md), [unconstitutional](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unconstitutional.md)

### FCC Internet Regulation and Podcast Licenses

- **Episode:** [310: Hail the Foot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/310-hail-the-foot.md)
- **Published:** 2011-06-05
- **Time:** 1:51:00–1:55:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/310-hail-the-foot/chapter/fcc-internet-regulation-and-podcast-licenses.md

The Virginia Attorney General warns that the FCC is moving to regulate the internet despite a 2010 court ruling stating they lacked the authority to do so. This move is described as a "brazen disregard for the rule of law" by the Obama administration. In response, the hosts promote their "podcast licenses" as a humorous way for creators to claim authorization when government regulators eventually "knock on the door."

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [internet regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-regulation.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), virginia attorney general, [podcast license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-license.md), [rule of law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rule-of-law.md)

### Pedobear Media Panic and MSNBC Reporting

- **Episode:** [234: Phasers on Stun](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/234-phasers-on-stun.md)
- **Published:** 2010-09-12
- **Time:** 51:23–56:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/234-phasers-on-stun/chapter/pedobear-media-panic-and-msnbc-reporting.md

The San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Department and MSNBC issued warnings to parents about "Pedobear," incorrectly identifying the internet meme as a mascot for pedophiles. The hosts mock the report, explaining that the character is a common millennial meme from 4chan and not a tool for luring children. They criticize law enforcement and media for failing to understand internet culture.

Keywords: [pedobear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedobear.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [san luis obispo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-luis-obispo.md), [4chan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/4chan.md), [internet memes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-memes.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md)

### Law and Order Script Analysis, Internet Vigilantism, and Media Propaganda

- **Episode:** [184: All Your DNA \[sic\]Belong To Us](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/184-all-your-dna-sic-belong-to-us.md)
- **Published:** 2010-03-21
- **Time:** 14:53–21:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/184-all-your-dna-sic-belong-to-us/chapter/law-and-order-script-analysis-internet-vigilantism-and-media-propaganda.md

The hosts analyze clips from a Law and Order episode featuring actor Rob Corddry, which they characterize as propaganda against internet vigilantism and texting while driving. They deconstruct the "surreal" dialogue regarding words on the internet having lethal consequences and a plot involving a woman claiming to receive messages from the devil. The segment highlights how mainstream television dramas often push specific social and legal narratives.

Keywords: [law and order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-and-order.md), rob corddry, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), internet vigilantism, script analysis

### Belgian Political Rifts and Google Lawsuits

- **Episode:** [33: The King of Beers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/33-the-king-of-beers.md)
- **Published:** 2008-05-30
- **Time:** 56:21–59:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/33-the-king-of-beers/chapter/belgian-political-rifts-and-google-lawsuits.md

Belgium is facing a significant internal rift between its French-speaking and Flemish-speaking populations, with some suggesting the Flemish region could rejoin the Netherlands. Simultaneously, Belgian entities are reportedly suing Google over unwanted search links. The hosts characterize the country's political and legal situation as increasingly fractured and eccentric.

Keywords: [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [flemish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flemish.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [internet law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-law.md), european politics

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