# Indemnification on The No Agenda Show

Indemnification comes up in 15 chapters across 14 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from September 2012 to December 2024.

- **Chapters:** 15
- **Episodes:** 14
- **Discussed:** September 2012 – December 2024
- **Related topics:** [Rna Vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rna-vaccine.md), [Adjuvants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adjuvants.md), [Bill Gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [Cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [Clinical Trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md), [Moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [Pharmaceutical Industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), [Vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [Africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md), [Antitrust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antitrust.md)

## Chapters 1–15 of 15

### RNA Vaccine Development, Safety Risks and Indemnification

- **Episode:** [1722: This Actually Happened!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1722-this-actually-happened.md)
- **Published:** 2024-12-19
- **Time:** 23:57–26:28
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1722-this-actually-happened/chapter/rna-vaccine-development-safety-risks-and-indemnification.md

The development of RNA vaccines by companies like Moderna and CureVac offered a potential path to beating the traditional 18-month timeline for vaccine creation. Experts noted the difficulty of ensuring efficacy in elderly populations and the risks of side effects when deployed at a global scale. Bill Gates mentioned that governments would need to provide risk indemnification before a vaccine could be distributed to the entire world.

Keywords: [rna vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rna-vaccine.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), curevac, [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### World Bank, Vaccine Indemnification and Liability Shields

- **Episode:** [1405: No Shields, No Deals](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1405-no-shields-no-deals.md)
- **Published:** 2021-12-06
- **Time:** 6:49–9:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1405-no-shields-no-deals/chapter/world-bank-vaccine-indemnification-and-liability-shields.md

World Bank President David Malpass identifies legal indemnification as a primary barrier to vaccine distribution in developing nations. He notes that Pfizer is hesitant to enter markets where a liability shield is not established, unlike in the United States and European Union. The discussion highlights the standoff between pharmaceutical profit protection and global health mandates.

Keywords: [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [david malpass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-malpass.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), liability shield, [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### Bill Gates, RNA Vaccines and Elderly Risk Factors

- **Episode:** [1242: Smokin' Hot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1242-smokin-hot.md)
- **Published:** 2020-05-17
- **Time:** 2:40:55–2:44:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1242-smokin-hot/chapter/bill-gates-rna-vaccines-and-elderly-risk-factors.md

Bill Gates promotes the development of RNA vaccines, such as those from Moderna, as the primary solution to the pandemic. However, Gates admits that vaccines are often ineffective in the elderly due to their weakened immune systems. The hosts discuss the risks of "amping up" vaccines with adjuvants and the legal indemnification governments must provide to manufacturers.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [rna vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rna-vaccine.md), [adjuvants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adjuvants.md), [immune system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immune-system.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### Bill Gates, RNA Vaccine Indemnification

- **Episode:** [1233: W.H.O. CARES](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1233-w-h-o-cares.md)
- **Published:** 2020-04-16
- **Time:** 1:23:32–1:25:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1233-w-h-o-cares/chapter/bill-gates-rna-vaccine-indemnification.md

Bill Gates discussed the challenges of developing an RNA vaccine for the global population, noting that safety testing at such a scale is unprecedented. Gates emphasized that governments must provide legal indemnification for manufacturers before a vaccine can be widely distributed.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [rna vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rna-vaccine.md), [adjuvants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adjuvants.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [thimerosal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thimerosal.md)

### Vaccine Industry Economics, RNA Gene Splicing

- **Episode:** [1232: GuangoCast](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1232-guangocast.md)
- **Published:** 2020-04-12
- **Time:** 40:04–43:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1232-guangocast/chapter/vaccine-industry-economics-rna-gene-splicing.md

The hosts revisit a JPMorgan Chase report highlighting the pharmaceutical industry's shift toward vaccines as a primary profit center. They discuss the legal indemnification of vaccine makers and the experimental nature of RNA vaccines. Curry notes that these new treatments involve gene splicing and have never been proven to work in a traditional sense.

Keywords: [jpmorgan chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jpmorgan-chase.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [rna vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rna-vaccine.md), gene splicing, [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program Payouts

- **Episode:** [1127: Netherlindian](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1127-netherlindian.md)
- **Published:** 2019-04-10
- **Time:** 1:56:28–2:00:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1127-netherlindian/chapter/national-vaccine-injury-compensation-program-payouts.md

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has reportedly paid out over $8 billion to individuals claiming vaccine-related injuries. Approximately 70% of these awards are negotiated settlements where the government does not officially admit the vaccine caused the injury. Pharmaceutical companies remain largely indemnified from direct lawsuits, shifting the burden to this federal program.

Keywords: [vaccine injury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-injury.md), [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [legal settlements](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-settlements.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### Rejection of Patreon and Platform Limitations

- **Episode:** [892: Foot Stomp](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/892-foot-stomp.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-08
- **Time:** 1:35:34–1:38:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/892-foot-stomp/chapter/rejection-of-patreon-and-platform-limitations.md

The hosts explain their refusal to use Patreon for listener support, citing high fees (5%), restrictive terms of service, and the platform's ability to "pull the plug" on creators. They highlight an indemnification clause in Patreon's contract that makes users liable for lawsuits against the company. The hosts prefer PayPal for its banking-like functionality and direct control over their own producer and "knighthood" programs.

Keywords: [patreon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patreon.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [terms of service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terms-of-service.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [fees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fees.md)

### Consortium for Homeland Security Technology, OG Systems, Indemnification

- **Episode:** [682: Sir Duke Don Tomaso Di Toronto Presents](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/682-sir-duke-don-tomaso-di-toronto-presents.md)
- **Published:** 2015-01-01
- **Time:** 1:03:50–1:11:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/682-sir-duke-don-tomaso-di-toronto-presents/chapter/consortium-for-homeland-security-technology-og-systems-indemnification.md

The Consortium for Homeland Security Technology filed a notification to invoke antitrust protections and indemnification for its members under a 1993 Act. Companies involved, such as OG Systems and Chesapeake Cartridge Corporation, engage in research for border security and cyber defense. A promotional video for OG Systems featuring CEO Dan Tecchielli is mocked for its "hackathon" culture and youthful corporate vibe.

Keywords: [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), og systems, [antitrust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antitrust.md), [public-private partnership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-private-partnership.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), dan tecchielli

### Vaccine Daycare Study, CDC Flu Shot Apology

- **Episode:** [677: 99 Lines of Code](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code.md)
- **Published:** 2014-12-11
- **Time:** 2:39:09–2:44:09
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code/chapter/vaccine-daycare-study-cdc-flu-shot-apology.md

A new study reveals that 25% of American children are not fully vaccinated, often due to scheduling issues rather than parental objection. Despite these numbers, there have not been widespread outbreaks, leading to questions about the necessity of certain mandates. The CDC recently apologized for the current flu vaccine's lack of effectiveness, while the Italian government removed the same shot from the market due to safety concerns.

Keywords: [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [flu shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [daycare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daycare.md)

### Food Irradiation, Vaccine Manufacturer Indemnification

- **Episode:** [677: 99 Lines of Code](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code.md)
- **Published:** 2014-12-11
- **Time:** 2:44:10–2:47:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/677-99-lines-of-code/chapter/food-irradiation-vaccine-manufacturer-indemnification.md

The lack of quality control in vaccine manufacturing is compared to the potential pitfalls of food irradiation. While gamma radiation could eliminate pathogens like E. coli, critics argue that such "purification" methods lead to sloppier handling practices because the end product is guaranteed to be sterile. Similarly, the legal indemnification of vaccine makers is believed to reduce the incentive for rigorous safety and efficacy standards.

Keywords: [gamma radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gamma-radiation.md), [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [e. coli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-coli.md), [quality control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quality-control.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md)

### Ebola Indemnification, Public Law 85-804

- **Episode:** [670: Terrorist Narrative](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative.md)
- **Published:** 2014-11-19
- **Time:** 2:19:23–2:22:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/ebola-indemnification-public-law-85-804.md

A presidential memorandum is examined that authorizes USAID to use Public Law 85-804 to indemnify contractors working on the Ebola response in Africa. The hosts link this to the broader trend of government indemnification for corporations, similar to the protections given to telecommunications companies for warrantless wiretapping.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), public law 85-804, [contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contractors.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md)

### GlaxoSmithKline Ebola Vaccine Fast-Tracking

- **Episode:** [663: Pupil Progression Plan](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/663-pupil-progression-plan.md)
- **Published:** 2014-10-24
- **Time:** 20:27–24:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/663-pupil-progression-plan/chapter/glaxosmithkline-ebola-vaccine-fast-tracking.md

GlaxoSmithKline CEO Sir Andrew Witty discusses the unprecedented pace of developing an Ebola vaccine, aiming for doses to be available by Christmas 2014. Witty emphasizes the need for government indemnification because the vaccine will be used in emergency situations before traditional long-term trials are completed. The hosts express skepticism regarding the sudden "cracking" of the vaccine code and the financial motivations involved.

Keywords: [glaxosmithkline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glaxosmithkline.md), andrew witty, [ebola vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola-vaccine.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md)

### Pharmaceutical Industry Indemnification, Anti-Vaccination Movement Labels

- **Episode:** [640: Putinism](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/640-putinism.md)
- **Published:** 2014-08-03
- **Time:** 18:48–22:57
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/640-putinism/chapter/pharmaceutical-industry-indemnification-anti-vaccination-movement-labels.md

Kurt Eichenwald used the term "anti-vacciners" to describe critics of the pharmaceutical industry, while the hosts point out that legal indemnification for vaccine manufacturers is a documented fact rather than a conspiracy. The discussion addresses the lack of legal recourse for vaccine injuries and questions the mainstream media narrative regarding recent measles outbreaks.

Keywords: [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [kurt eichenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurt-eichenwald.md), [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md)

### Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, Corporate Indemnification

- **Episode:** [634: Rough Patch](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/634-rough-patch.md)
- **Published:** 2014-07-13
- **Time:** 1:22:55–1:31:30
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/634-rough-patch/chapter/cybersecurity-information-sharing-act-corporate-indemnification.md

Adam Curry analyzes Senate Bill 2588, the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2014, introduced by Dianne Feinstein. He highlights provisions that indemnify private companies for sharing user data with the federal government under the guise of "cyber threat indicators." The hosts warn that this creates a profit center for corporations to spy on customers and share "exfiltrated" information with intelligence agencies.

Keywords: [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [cisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

### DHS Demonstrations Used to Scare Congress into Action

- **Episode:** [448: Lucy the Luddite](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/448-lucy-the-luddite.md)
- **Published:** 2012-09-30
- **Time:** 22:23–25:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/448-lucy-the-luddite/chapter/dhs-demonstrations-used-to-scare-congress-into-action.md

Janet Napolitano describes conducting demonstrations in "the skiff" to scare members of Congress into recognizing the urgency of cyber threats. The hosts compare the sought-after legal indemnification for tech companies to the protections already enjoyed by the pharmaceutical industry regarding vaccine liability.

Keywords: [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [skiff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skiff.md), [department of homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-homeland-security.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md)

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