# Imessage on The No Agenda Show

Imessage comes up in 10 chapters across 10 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from November 2016 to December 2024.

- **Chapters:** 10
- **Episodes:** 10
- **Discussed:** November 2016 – December 2024
- **Related topics:** [Apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [Sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md), [Android](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/android.md), [Iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [Brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md), [California](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [China](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [Cupertino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cupertino.md), [Dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [Encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

## Chapters 1–10 of 10

### iPhone Text Groups and Android Exclusion

- **Episode:** [1717: Mr. Peepers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1717-mr-peepers.md)
- **Published:** 2024-12-01
- **Time:** 2:48:47–2:52:00
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1717-mr-peepers/chapter/iphone-text-groups-and-android-exclusion.md

A long aside explained how iPhone group chats treat Android users as outsiders through green-bubble messaging. The point was presented as an example of tech-driven social exclusion, with claims that new phones and operating systems are quietly pushing people out of mixed-device text groups.

Keywords: [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [android](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/android.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), text groups, blue bubbles, green bubbles

### Apple iMessage PQ3 Post-Quantum Encryption

- **Episode:** [1636: Super Duper](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1636-super-duper.md)
- **Published:** 2024-02-22
- **Time:** 2:08:24–2:13:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1636-super-duper/chapter/apple-imessage-pq3-post-quantum-encryption.md

Apple announced "PQ3," a new post-quantum cryptographic protocol for iMessage designed to protect against "harvest now, decrypt later" attacks. While Apple claims this reaches "Level 3" security, skeptics suggest the new protocol might actually provide a backdoor for the national security state. The technology is set to roll out with iOS 17.4 and become the default for all iMessage conversations by the end of the year.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), pq3, [quantum computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantum-computing.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

### Apple iMessage, Green Bubble Social Stigma

- **Episode:** [1619: Flash to Bang](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1619-flash-to-bang.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-24
- **Time:** 40:55–45:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1619-flash-to-bang/chapter/apple-imessage-green-bubble-social-stigma.md

The social divide between iPhone and Android users is highlighted by the "green bubble" stigma in group chats, which lacks iMessage features like editing and high-quality media. Apple has faced pressure from the EU to adopt the RCS standard in 2024 to improve interoperability. The FTC is also reportedly looking into the competitive implications of Apple's messaging ecosystem.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [android](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/android.md), [rcs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rcs.md), [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md)

### Federal Device TikTok Ban, DHS iMessage Deactivation

- **Episode:** [1534: The Chit](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1534-the-chit.md)
- **Published:** 2023-03-02
- **Time:** 29:53–32:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1534-the-chit/chapter/federal-device-tiktok-ban-dhs-imessage-deactivation.md

The White House has given government agencies 30 days to remove TikTok from all federal systems. Simultaneously, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has ordered the deactivation of iMessage on government-furnished Apple devices, forcing a shift to SMS and MMS. The hosts question why TikTok was ever allowed on federal devices and why the iMessage ban was more immediate than the TikTok removal.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), federal devices, [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md)

### Apple CSAM Scanning, Privacy Concerns, Slippery Slope

- **Episode:** [1371: Bald Nancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1371-bald-nancy.md)
- **Published:** 2021-08-09
- **Time:** 2:20:16–2:25:43
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1371-bald-nancy/chapter/apple-csam-scanning-privacy-concerns-slippery-slope.md

Apple announced a new initiative to scan iMessages and iCloud photos for Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) using a hashing database. The hosts warn that this technology represents a "slippery slope" toward broader government surveillance and the potential for scanning private communications for political dissent. They compare the move to surveillance practices used in China and express concern over the loss of end-to-end encryption integrity.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), csam, [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), hashing, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

### Apple Podcasts, Cupertino Call Issues

- **Episode:** [1308: Swiss Cheese Model](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1308-swiss-cheese-model.md)
- **Published:** 2021-01-10
- **Time:** 1:09:55–1:12:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1308-swiss-cheese-model/chapter/apple-podcasts-cupertino-call-issues.md

A host recounts a missed call from the head of Apple Podcasts because the iPhone's internal systems identified the Cupertino-based caller as spam and sent it directly to voicemail. The segment mocks Apple for failing to recognize its own corporate numbers.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [cupertino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cupertino.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md)

### California Proposed Tax on SMS Text Messages

- **Episode:** [1095: Yeah No](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1095-yeah-no.md)
- **Published:** 2018-12-17
- **Time:** 28:31–31:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1095-yeah-no/chapter/california-proposed-tax-on-sms-text-messages.md

The California Public Utilities Commission is considering a proposal to tax SMS text messages to fund phone services for low-income residents. The wireless industry opposes the plan, arguing it is unfair because it exempts internet-based messaging services like Apple's iMessage and Facebook Messenger.

Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md), text message tax, [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md)

### Josie and the Pussycats Film and iMessage Migration

- **Episode:** [1028: Roscoe!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1028-roscoe.md)
- **Published:** 2018-04-26
- **Time:** 1:38:52–1:43:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1028-roscoe/chapter/josie-and-the-pussycats-film-and-imessage-migration.md

The 2001 film Josie and the Pussycats is cited as a satirical look at "the internet of sound" and subliminal brainwashing via embedded audio tones. On the technical side, the transition from iPhone to feature phones is discussed, noting that Apple's iMessage system will automatically revert to standard SMS if it detects a recipient is offline, facilitating a move away from proprietary IP messaging.

Keywords: josie and the pussycats, [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md), google chat, [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md)

### SMS Decline, Apple and Facebook UI Intrusions

- **Episode:** [891: Bug Juice](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-01
- **Time:** 1:21:32–1:24:05
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice/chapter/sms-decline-apple-and-facebook-ui-intrusions.md

The decline of traditional SMS revenue for carriers is noted as users shift to social media for New Year's greetings. Additionally, Apple and Facebook are criticized for automatically triggering full-screen fireworks animations when users type "Happy New Year," a feature described as unwanted editorializing.

Keywords: [sms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sms.md), [imessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imessage.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), happy new year, fireworks animation

### No Agenda PR: Filters and iMessage Stickers

- **Episode:** [880: Promise to Prosecute](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-24
- **Time:** 1:25:44–1:29:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute/chapter/no-agenda-pr-filters-and-imessage-stickers.md

The hosts share "Public Relations" items, including browser extensions like TrumpFilter.com and HillaryFilter.com. Producer Eric from Sugar Coated Apps is highlighted for creating a No Agenda sticker pack for iMessage. The stickers feature 33 classic jingles and catchphrases, with a portion of the proceeds being donated back to the show.

Keywords: trump filter, hillary filter, imessage stickers, sugar coated apps, [promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/promotion.md)

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