# Goldwater Rule on The No Agenda Show Goldwater Rule comes up in 10 chapters across 9 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from August 2016 to June 2018. - **Chapters:** 10 - **Episodes:** 9 - **Discussed:** August 2016 – June 2018 - **Related topics:** [Barry Goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [Donald Trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [Psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), [25th Amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/25th-amendment.md), [Duty To Warn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duty-to-warn.md), [Ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md), [Jay Rosen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rosen.md), [Journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [Mental Health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [Nyu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyu.md) ## Chapters 1–10 of 10 ### Morning Joe Panel Debates the Goldwater Rule - **Episode:** [1038: End of an Era](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1038-end-of-an-era.md) - **Published:** 2018-06-06 - **Time:** 29:22–35:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1038-end-of-an-era/chapter/morning-joe-panel-debates-the-goldwater-rule.md The "Morning Joe" panel discusses Donald Trump's mental stability, with some members suggesting he is a "petulant brat" with physiological disorders. The conversation touches on the Goldwater Rule, which prohibits psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures without a personal examination. The hosts mock the panel's obsession, noting the irony of people who cannot "move off" a subject accusing the President of the same behavior. Keywords: [morning joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [barry goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md) ### Jay Rosen and the Goldwater Rule Question - **Episode:** [1038: End of an Era](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1038-end-of-an-era.md) - **Published:** 2018-06-06 - **Time:** 1:47:04–1:48:58 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1038-end-of-an-era/chapter/jay-rosen-and-the-goldwater-rule-question.md During a session titled "The Trump Regime and The American Press," NYU professor Jay Rosen is asked a question by a "No Agenda" listener regarding the Goldwater Rule. The listener, identified as Dame Tanya, asks if the rule is the reason journalists are reluctant to report on the President's psychological issues. Rosen reportedly spent several minutes addressing the factor of psychiatric ethics in political journalism. Keywords: [jay rosen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rosen.md), [nyu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyu.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [dame tanya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame-tanya.md) ### Goldwater Rule and Duty to Warn Ethics - **Episode:** [1031: Dog Dazer](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1031-dog-dazer.md) - **Published:** 2018-05-07 - **Time:** 35:18–38:49 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1031-dog-dazer/chapter/goldwater-rule-and-duty-to-warn-ethics.md Dr. John Gartner argues that the "Duty to Warn" the public about a dangerous leader supersedes the "Goldwater Rule," which prohibits psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures they haven't treated. The Goldwater Rule was established after a 1964 magazine article claimed Barry Goldwater was mentally unstable. Gartner contends that modern diagnostic criteria based on observable behavior make the old rule anachronistic. Keywords: [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [barry goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [dsm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsm.md), [ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [duty to warn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duty-to-warn.md) ### Alan Dershowitz, Goldwater Rule and 25th Amendment - **Episode:** [998: Service Burro](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/998-service-burro.md) - **Published:** 2018-01-13 - **Time:** 20:29–23:47 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/998-service-burro/chapter/alan-dershowitz-goldwater-rule-and-25th-amendment.md Attorney Alan Dershowitz criticized the "psychiatrization" of political differences, citing the Goldwater Rule which prohibits psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined. Dershowitz argued that the 25th Amendment is intended for total physical or mental incompetence rather than political disagreement, warning that using it against Donald Trump poses a danger to democracy. Keywords: [alan dershowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-dershowitz.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [25th amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/25th-amendment.md), [barry goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [fox and friends](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-and-friends.md) ### Duty to Warn, Dr. Bandy Lee on Trump's Mental Health - **Episode:** [996: Rats on a Plane](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/996-rats-on-a-plane.md) - **Published:** 2018-01-05 - **Time:** 46:52–54:54 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/996-rats-on-a-plane/chapter/duty-to-warn-dr-bandy-lee-on-trump-s-mental-health.md Dr. Bandy Lee, a Yale forensic psychiatrist, discusses the "Duty to Warn" movement and her book, *The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump*. The movement argues that mental health professionals have an ethical obligation to speak out about the President's perceived instability, despite the "Goldwater Rule" which prohibits diagnosing public figures without an examination. The discussion on *Democracy Now!* focuses on Trump's impulsivity and the potential for nuclear conflict. Keywords: bandy lee, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [duty to warn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duty-to-warn.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md) ### Goldwater Rule, Psychiatric Assessments of Donald Trump - **Episode:** [952: iChip®](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/952-ichip.md) - **Published:** 2017-08-03 - **Time:** 14:45–18:13 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/952-ichip/chapter/goldwater-rule-psychiatric-assessments-of-donald-trump.md The American Psychoanalytic Association's decision to move away from the Goldwater Rule is examined in the context of President Donald Trump. This rule traditionally prohibited mental health professionals from diagnosing public figures without a personal examination. The upcoming book "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump," featuring assessments from 27 psychiatrists, is highlighted as a manifestation of this shift in professional ethics and political discourse. Keywords: [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), american psychoanalytic association, [barry goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md) ### Jay Rosen and the Goldwater Rule - **Episode:** [922: Gut Punch](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/922-gut-punch.md) - **Published:** 2017-04-20 - **Time:** 2:37:19–2:39:13 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/922-gut-punch/chapter/jay-rosen-and-the-goldwater-rule.md During a session on the Trump regime and the press, NYU professor Jay Rosen was asked about the "Goldwater Rule," which discourages psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures. The question, posed by a No Agenda listener, explored why journalists are reluctant to report on Trump's psychological state. Keywords: [jay rosen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rosen.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [narcissism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcissism.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [nyu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyu.md) ### Goldwater Rule, Trump Mental Health Petition - **Episode:** [909: Virtue Signalling](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/909-virtue-signalling.md) - **Published:** 2017-03-05 - **Time:** 1:27:21–1:34:48 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/909-virtue-signalling/chapter/goldwater-rule-trump-mental-health-petition.md Psychiatrists are reportedly breaking the "Goldwater Rule," which prohibits diagnosing public figures without an examination, by signing a petition declaring Donald Trump mentally ill. Dr. John Gardner argues that mental health professionals have a "duty to warn" the public, citing the 25th Amendment as a mechanism for removal. Keywords: [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [barry goldwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-goldwater.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [psychiatry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatry.md), [25th amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/25th-amendment.md) ### Howard Dean Medical Ethics, Goldwater Rule - **Episode:** [864: Putin Popularity Poll](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/864-putin-popularity-poll.md) - **Published:** 2016-09-29 - **Time:** 16:36–19:51 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/864-putin-popularity-poll/chapter/howard-dean-medical-ethics-goldwater-rule.md Howard Dean, a medical doctor, defended his televised diagnosis of Donald Trump despite the Goldwater Rule, which discourages psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures without an examination. Dean compared his questions to Rudy Giuliani's previous public concerns regarding Hillary Clinton's health and medical history. Keywords: [howard dean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-dean.md), [goldwater rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldwater-rule.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [rudy giuliani](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rudy-giuliani.md), medical diagnosis ### Goldwater Rule, Psychiatric Ethics in Politics - **Episode:** [851: Captain Talking Points](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/851-captain-talking-points.md) - **Published:** 2016-08-14 - **Time:** 45:20–47:41 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/851-captain-talking-points/chapter/goldwater-rule-psychiatric-ethics-in-politics.md The "Goldwater Rule" is a professional ethics principle that forbids psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined. 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