# Flat Earth on The No Agenda Show

Flat Earth comes up in 20 chapters across 20 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from June 2013 to February 2026.

- **Chapters:** 20
- **Episodes:** 20
- **Discussed:** June 2013 – February 2026
- **Related topics:** [Neil Degrasse Tyson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-degrasse-tyson.md), [Nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [Climate Change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [Conspiracy Theories](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theories.md), [Donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [Firmament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firmament.md), [Science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [Al Sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [Albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 20

### Firmament Theory, Firefly Aerospace Rocket Explosion

- **Episode:** [1844: Second Half of Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1844-second-half-of-show.md)
- **Published:** 2026-02-19
- **Time:** 1:48:29–1:49:57
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1844-second-half-of-show/chapter/firmament-theory-firefly-aerospace-rocket-explosion.md

The explosion of a Firefly Aerospace Alpha rocket over California is interpreted through the "firmament" theory, which suggests the Earth is covered by a solid dome. Proponents of this view claim the rocket did not malfunction but rather exploded upon hitting the physical ceiling of the atmosphere, preventing it from entering space.

Keywords: [firmament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firmament.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), firefly aerospace, rocket explosion, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

### Global Meetup Reports, Huntsville to Leiden

- **Episode:** [1557: Stern & Wrinkled](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled.md)
- **Published:** 2023-05-21
- **Time:** 2:32:54–2:37:23
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/global-meetup-reports-huntsville-to-leiden.md

Meetup reports arrived from Huntsville, Alabama; Leiden, Netherlands; and Post Falls, Idaho. The Idaho report humorously mentions a "Russian playbook" and debates over "Flat Earth" theory. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find or start local gatherings in their own areas to connect with other "knights and dames."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [huntsville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huntsville.md), [leiden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leiden.md), [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md), [indianapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indianapolis.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md)

### Meetup Gifts, No Agenda Memorabilia

- **Episode:** [1452: Toxic Stew](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1452-toxic-stew.md)
- **Published:** 2022-05-19
- **Time:** 2:29:24–2:31:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1452-toxic-stew/chapter/meetup-gifts-no-agenda-memorabilia.md

The hosts list various physical gifts received from producers at the Charleston meetup, including a "holo book," silver coins, and custom T-shirts. One T-shirt features a "flat earth" design with the slogan "Firmament First." These items are presented as tokens of appreciation from the show's dedicated audience.

Keywords: [charleston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charleston.md), [gifts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gifts.md), holo book, [silver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silver.md), flat earth t-shirt

### Firefly Aerospace Rocket, Firmament First Theory

- **Episode:** [1379: Afghaniscam](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1379-afghaniscam.md)
- **Published:** 2021-09-06
- **Time:** 2:00:55–2:02:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1379-afghaniscam/chapter/firefly-aerospace-rocket-firmament-first-theory.md

The explosion of Firefly Aerospace's Alpha rocket during its California launch is discussed through the lens of the "Firmament First" theory. The theory suggests the rocket exploded upon hitting a physical dome or "firmament" covering the Earth, rather than due to a mechanical failure.

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### Jacob Kitson, Songs of a Distant Christmas, Flat Earth Christianity

- **Episode:** [1306: Antigenic Drift](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1306-antigenic-drift.md)
- **Published:** 2020-12-27
- **Time:** 2:45:41–2:50:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1306-antigenic-drift/chapter/jacob-kitson-songs-of-a-distant-christmas-flat-earth-christianity.md

Jacob Kitson from Provincetown promoted his Christmas EP, "Songs of a Distant Christmas," which features a Lithuanian verse. Another donor, Sir Ty, combines his belief in a flat earth with a message about Christian salvation, requesting "biscuits and piping hot gravy" for the roundtable.

Keywords: [provincetown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/provincetown.md), [music video](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-video.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [christianity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christianity.md), berataria

### Flat Earth Two-Cent Stamp and Knighting Ceremony

- **Episode:** [1265: Ear Trumpet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1265-ear-trumpet.md)
- **Published:** 2020-08-02
- **Time:** 2:29:10–2:39:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1265-ear-trumpet/chapter/flat-earth-two-cent-stamp-and-knighting-ceremony.md

A listener known as the "Cali Flatsmacker" sends a donation using a two-cent stamp, claiming to have learned the trick from a Flat Earth YouTube channel. The hosts discuss the "realm" vs. "globe" terminology preferred by the Flat Earth community. The segment transitions into a formal knighting ceremony for several high-tier donors, including a new Baron from Australia.

Keywords: [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), jerenism, cali flatsmacker

### Dame Nurse Kaitlyn, North Carolina Meetup

- **Episode:** [1175: Son of a Biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1175-son-of-a-biden.md)
- **Published:** 2019-11-28
- **Time:** 2:26:14–2:29:37
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1175-son-of-a-biden/chapter/dame-nurse-kaitlyn-north-carolina-meetup.md

Dame Nurse Kaitlyn from Goldsboro, North Carolina, donated $111.33 after a hiatus following personal family losses. She requested "F-cancer" karma and called out her brother, Trey Williams, as a "douchebag" for missing a local No Agenda meetup.

Keywords: [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md), goldsboro

### Conspiracy Theory Exposure, Moderator Psychological Impact

- **Episode:** [1117: Composting People](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1117-composting-people.md)
- **Published:** 2019-03-03
- **Time:** 2:08:16–2:12:05
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1117-composting-people/chapter/conspiracy-theory-exposure-moderator-psychological-impact.md

The Verge report notes that some Facebook moderators began believing the conspiracy theories they were tasked with deleting, such as 9/11 "inside job" claims or Flat Earth theories. The hosts discuss the psychological toll of constant exposure to misinformation and the high turnover rate among moderation staff.

Keywords: [conspiracy theories](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theories.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md)

### De-Douching and Listener Well-Wishes

- **Episode:** [1030: Phoneliness](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1030-phoneliness.md)
- **Published:** 2018-05-03
- **Time:** 1:22:25–1:26:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1030-phoneliness/chapter/de-douching-and-listener-well-wishes.md

Several listeners are "de-douched" following their donations, including Michael Roeger, who is searching for a 1969 Dodge Super Bee. Dame Nurse Caitlin of the Flat Earth shares a touching note about using the podcast as a distraction while grieving the loss of her mother. The hosts reiterate that the value-for-value system is the only thing keeping the show independent and on the air.

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### Idaho Legislature Debates Science Standards and Inquiry

- **Episode:** [1010: Spin the Bottle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1010-spin-the-bottle.md)
- **Published:** 2018-02-22
- **Time:** 1:46:30–1:49:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1010-spin-the-bottle/chapter/idaho-legislature-debates-science-standards-and-inquiry.md

The Idaho House Education Committee voted to delete certain science standards that linked air pollution directly to fossil fuels, favoring a curriculum that encourages student inquiry. Representative Scott Sime argued that standards should not stifle scientific discovery, even if students reach unconventional conclusions. Critics in the media portrayed this move as an attempt to "water down" science education and humiliate the legislators involved.

Keywords: [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), ryan kirby, scott sime, science standards, [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md)

### Flat Earth Theory and Curvature Mathematics

- **Episode:** [985: Clip Job](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/985-clip-job.md)
- **Published:** 2017-11-26
- **Time:** 1:39:22–1:47:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/985-clip-job/chapter/flat-earth-theory-and-curvature-mathematics.md

Adam Curry introduces the "Flat Earth" concept, focusing on the mathematical difficulty of explaining why lighthouses are visible beyond the calculated curvature of the Earth. John C. Dvorak dismisses the topic as nonsense, but Curry points out that NASA admits its photos of Earth are "composites" rather than single wide-angle shots. The discussion explores why these questions are gaining traction online.

Keywords: [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [neil degrasse tyson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-degrasse-tyson.md), curvature, [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), composites, lighthouse

### Bitcoin History, Joe Rogan, and Flat Earth Deconstruction

- **Episode:** [984: Show X](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/984-show-x.md)
- **Published:** 2017-11-26
- **Time:** 1:33:45–1:37:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/984-show-x/chapter/bitcoin-history-joe-rogan-and-flat-earth-deconstruction.md

The hosts touch on their early involvement with Bitcoin, dating back to the "Daily Source Code" era, and their lack of interest in selling their remaining holdings. They express a desire to appear on the Joe Rogan Experience to reach a larger audience. Additionally, they briefly address their past deconstruction of the Flat Earth movement, noting they only cover it when it appears in the news.

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### Al Sharpton Photos and Value-for-Value Donations

- **Episode:** [940: Dealio](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/940-dealio.md)
- **Published:** 2017-06-22
- **Time:** 2:14:43–2:22:14
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/940-dealio/chapter/al-sharpton-photos-and-value-for-value-donations.md

John C. Dvorak discusses technical issues with his newsletter, specifically regarding "ludicrous" photos of a slimmed-down Al Sharpton that failed to load for some users. A series of donations are read, including a "Flat Earth" donation of $77.77. The hosts reiterate the show's reliance on producer support rather than traditional advertising.

Keywords: [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

### Shaquille O'Neal Flat Earth Comments, Kyrie Irving

- **Episode:** [914: Fack Base](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/914-fack-base.md)
- **Published:** 2017-03-23
- **Time:** 1:28:47–1:31:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/914-fack-base/chapter/shaquille-o-neal-flat-earth-comments-kyrie-irving.md

The hosts play a clip of basketball star Shaquille O'Neal appearing to support "Flat Earth" theory during a podcast interview. Shaq references Kyrie Irving's previous comments on the subject and uses his experience driving across the country as "evidence" of a flat plane. The hosts debate whether the athlete is being serious or performing a comedic bit.

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### Neil deGrasse Tyson Bullying and Flat Earth Debate

- **Episode:** [798: Dangerous Speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/798-dangerous-speech.md)
- **Published:** 2016-02-11
- **Time:** 2:25:35–2:31:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/798-dangerous-speech/chapter/neil-degrasse-tyson-bullying-and-flat-earth-debate.md

Scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson appears on Comedy Central to refute rapper B.O.B.'s claims that the Earth is flat. Tyson is criticized for his "bully" persona and for framing scientific disagreement as "harmful" to the security of the citizenry. The segment highlights the transformation of science into a dogmatic "religion" where dissent is treated as a social threat.

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### Flat Earth Theory, Curvature Mathematics Debate

- **Episode:** [783: Bernie and the Breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach.md)
- **Published:** 2015-12-20
- **Time:** 2:23:01–2:30:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/flat-earth-theory-curvature-mathematics-debate.md

Adam Curry brings up the growing online interest in Flat Earth theory, specifically questioning the mathematical calculations of the Earth's curvature and why lighthouses are visible from distances they theoretically shouldn't be. John Dvorak dismisses the topic as nonsense, while Adam questions why NASA only provides "composite" images of Earth rather than single photographs.

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### Neil deGrasse Tyson, Flat Earth Theory and Scientific Truth

- **Episode:** [781: Gun Disease](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/781-gun-disease.md)
- **Published:** 2015-12-13
- **Time:** 23:26–27:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/781-gun-disease/chapter/neil-degrasse-tyson-flat-earth-theory-and-scientific-truth.md

Neil deGrasse Tyson criticized the media's tendency to provide equal time to opposing views in scientific debates, specifically referencing the Flat Earth Society. Tyson argued that scientific truths are emergent and do not require public belief to remain valid.

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### Flat Earth Theory, Antarctica and Scientific Dogma

- **Episode:** [780: Dustbin of History](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/780-dustbin-of-history.md)
- **Published:** 2015-12-10
- **Time:** 2:36:10–2:38:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/780-dustbin-of-history/chapter/flat-earth-theory-antarctica-and-scientific-dogma.md

A host mentions investigating "Flat Earth" theories, specifically the idea that Antarctica is an ice ring surrounding the earth. This is prompted by John Kerry's dismissal of climate skeptics as members of the "Flat Earth Society." While not endorsing the theory, the host expresses an interest in looking at the arguments being made by the community.

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### Neil deGrasse Tyson and the War on Science

- **Episode:** [599: Nuclear Tipped](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/599-nuclear-tipped.md)
- **Published:** 2014-03-13
- **Time:** 2:36:58–2:46:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/599-nuclear-tipped/chapter/neil-degrasse-tyson-and-the-war-on-science.md

Neil deGrasse Tyson, host of the "Cosmos" reboot on Fox, appeared on CNN to discuss the "war on science." Tyson argued that scientific truths are not subject to "cherry-picking" and compared climate change skeptics to members of the Flat Earth Society. Critics argue that Tyson and the media are using science as a political tool to shut down debate on issues like man-made global warming.

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### Obama Climate Change Speech, Global Warming Rhetoric

- **Episode:** [526: #meh!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/526-meh.md)
- **Published:** 2013-06-30
- **Time:** 9:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/526-meh/chapter/obama-climate-change-speech-global-warming-rhetoric.md

Barack Obama delivered a speech at Georgetown University outlining a national plan to confront climate change, citing decades of reviewed science. The address claimed the last 12 years were the warmest in history and linked extreme weather events like droughts and wildfires to a warming planet. Critics argue the rhetoric is a "hedge" and note the irony of the President referencing the Flat Earth Society, which itself has documented stances on global warming.

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