# Fair Use on The No Agenda Show

Fair Use comes up in 33 chapters across 33 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from May 2009 to August 2026.

- **Chapters:** 33
- **Episodes:** 33
- **Discussed:** May 2009 – August 2026
- **Related topics:** [Copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [Microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [Digital Art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), [Podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [Mustafa Suleyman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mustafa-suleyman.md), [Spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [Value For Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [Ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [Album Art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md), [Comic Strip Blogger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comic-strip-blogger.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 33

### Spotify Podcast Licensing, Fair Use Parody Disputes

- **Episode:** [1893: En Banc](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1893-en-banc.md)
- **Published:** 2026-08-09
- **Time:** 27:09–30:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1893-en-banc/chapter/spotify-podcast-licensing-fair-use-parody-disputes.md

Adam Curry details the show's ongoing refusal to host content on Spotify due to restrictive contracts and unwanted advertising. He explains how algorithmic detection often flags parody songs played on the show as copyright violations. The hosts advocate for the use of independent Podcasting 2.0 apps to avoid corporate censorship.

Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), soundexchange, [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [parody](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parody.md)

### Spotify Copyright Violations and Independent Podcast Ecosystems

- **Episode:** [1867: Transmission Window](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1867-transmission-window.md)
- **Published:** 2026-05-10
- **Time:** 2:06:41–2:08:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1867-transmission-window/chapter/spotify-copyright-violations-and-independent-podcast-ecosystems.md

Spotify has removed approximately 15 episodes of the show for unspecified copyright violations, despite the hosts' claims of fair use and parody. This incident serves as a catalyst for the hosts to promote the independent podcast ecosystem and the use of modern apps via PodcastIndex.org to avoid centralized de-platforming.

Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [podcast index](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-index.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [de-platforming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-platforming.md)

### Microsoft AI Copyright Claims, Mustafa Suleiman

- **Episode:** [1848: Podcaster Down!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1848-podcaster-down.md)
- **Published:** 2026-03-05
- **Time:** 1:59:11–2:01:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1848-podcaster-down/chapter/microsoft-ai-copyright-claims-mustafa-suleiman.md

Mustafa Suleiman, CEO of Microsoft AI, claimed that content on the open web has been "freeware" since the 90s and is fair use for AI training. This assertion is challenged by the hosts, who cite established copyright law and personal legal victories against unauthorized commercial use of digital content.

Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), mustafa suleiman, [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md)

### AI Training Lawsuits, Microsoft Fair Use Claims

- **Episode:** [1824: Battle Rhythm](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1824-battle-rhythm.md)
- **Published:** 2025-12-11
- **Time:** 24:33–28:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1824-battle-rhythm/chapter/ai-training-lawsuits-microsoft-fair-use-claims.md

Google and YouTube face scrutiny over using uploaded videos to train generative AI models without creator compensation. Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman is criticized for suggesting that content on the open web has been "freeware" since the 1990s. One host mentions being part of a class-action lawsuit involving copyright infringement of their books by AI companies.

Keywords: [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [mustafa suleyman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mustafa-suleyman.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md)

### AI Music Production and No Agenda Records

- **Episode:** [1809: Tomahawk Turnaround](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1809-tomahawk-turnaround.md)
- **Published:** 2025-10-19
- **Time:** 2:03:01–2:05:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1809-tomahawk-turnaround/chapter/ai-music-production-and-no-agenda-records.md

The rise of AI music tools like Suno allows users to create high-quality songs that are not registered with licensing bodies like ASCAP or BMI, making them ideal for podcast use. The hosts propose launching "No Agenda Records" to publish and promote AI-generated tracks, including parodies and original compositions. They envision a future where AI-produced hits are paired with human performers to create new forms of digital stardom.

Keywords: [ai music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-music.md), [suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md), [nico sime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nico-sime.md), [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), [ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

### Mustafa Suleyman, AI Social Contract and Copyright Law

- **Episode:** [1808: Bad Fad](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1808-bad-fad.md)
- **Published:** 2025-10-16
- **Time:** 21:30–23:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1808-bad-fad/chapter/mustafa-suleyman-ai-social-contract-and-copyright-law.md

Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman sparked controversy by claiming that content on the open web has been "freeware" since the 1990s under a perceived social contract. Legal experts dispute this, noting that current copyright law automatically protects original works without the need for formal registration or notices. The discussion highlights the ongoing tension between AI training data requirements and intellectual property rights.

Keywords: [mustafa suleyman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mustafa-suleyman.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [creative commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creative-commons.md)

### Value for Value and AI in Creative Arts

- **Episode:** [1798: Adam & The Robot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1798-adam-the-robot.md)
- **Published:** 2025-09-11
- **Time:** 2:11:38–2:18:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1798-adam-the-robot/chapter/value-for-value-and-ai-in-creative-arts.md

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model as a defense against de-platforming on services like Spotify. They explore the impact of AI on creative professions, noting that while AI can produce professional-sounding song demos and graphic art, it lacks the unique human element. They argue that the podcast's community-driven model is difficult for AI to replicate.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [graphic design](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graphic-design.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [songwriting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/songwriting.md), [suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md)

### Anthropic Copyright Settlement, AI Training Data Lawsuits

- **Episode:** [1797: Death Buses](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1797-death-buses.md)
- **Published:** 2025-09-07
- **Time:** 1:23:47–1:26:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1797-death-buses/chapter/anthropic-copyright-settlement-ai-training-data-lawsuits.md

AI startup Anthropic has agreed to a $1.5 billion settlement in a class-action lawsuit brought by authors who alleged the company used pirated books to train its models. While the settlement is large, a San Francisco judge's ruling that training AI constitutes "fair use" is seen as a significant legal victory for the industry.

Keywords: [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), pirated books, [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md)

### Copyright Office Drama, AI Training Fair Use

- **Episode:** [1771: Home Depotation](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1771-home-depotation.md)
- **Published:** 2025-06-08
- **Time:** 2:49:18–2:55:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1771-home-depotation/chapter/copyright-office-drama-ai-training-fair-use.md

NPR reported on the abrupt firing of the Librarian of Congress and the head of the U.S. Copyright Office following the release of a report on AI and fair use. The report suggests that using copyrighted works to train AI may qualify as fair use on a case-by-case basis. The hosts discuss the unreliability of AI tools like Perplexity and ChatGPT, noting they often provide incorrect information depending on how a question is phrased.

Keywords: copyright office, carla hayden, shira perlmutter, [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [generative ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generative-ai.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

### OpenAI Copyright Proposal and Fair Use Expansion

- **Episode:** [1751: Talking Toilet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1751-talking-toilet.md)
- **Published:** 2025-03-30
- **Time:** 14:44–18:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1751-talking-toilet/chapter/openai-copyright-proposal-and-fair-use-expansion.md

OpenAI has submitted a proposal to the Trump administration's Office of Science and Technology Policy requesting loosened regulations on copyrighted material for AI training. The company argues that current guardrails hinder national interests and innovation compared to AI developments in Beijing. This push for expanded "fair use" occurs as OpenAI participates in the federally funded Stargate initiative for AI infrastructure.

Keywords: [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), stargate initiative

### Episode 1689 Artwork, AI Image Generation Limits

- **Episode:** [1690: Corn Sweat](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1690-corn-sweat.md)
- **Published:** 2024-08-29
- **Time:** 1:27:35–1:32:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1690-corn-sweat/chapter/episode-1689-artwork-ai-image-generation-limits.md

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for episode 1689, including a parody of "Ozempic ice cream." They discuss the limitations of AI, noting that models frequently fail simple logic tests, such as counting the letter 'r' in the word "strawberry." They also touch on Nvidia's stock performance following their latest earnings report.

Keywords: [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), [nvidia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nvidia.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [strawberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strawberry.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md)

### Microsoft AI Copyright, Mustafa Suleyman Fair Use Claims

- **Episode:** [1673: Mummy and the Dummy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1673-mummy-and-the-dummy.md)
- **Published:** 2024-06-30
- **Time:** 2:34:13–2:39:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1673-mummy-and-the-dummy/chapter/microsoft-ai-copyright-mustafa-suleyman-fair-use-claims.md

Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, sparked controversy by claiming that all content on the open web is "freeware" under a "social contract" established in the 90s. Legal experts and creators countered that everything published online is automatically copyrighted by law. The statement is expected to be used against Microsoft in future litigation regarding AI data scraping and intellectual property rights.

Keywords: [mustafa suleyman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mustafa-suleyman.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [copyright law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright-law.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [creative commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creative-commons.md)

### Value for Value Model, Podcast Art Feedback

- **Episode:** [1633: Noise Machine](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1633-noise-machine.md)
- **Published:** 2024-02-11
- **Time:** 2:27:43–2:32:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1633-noise-machine/chapter/value-for-value-model-podcast-art-feedback.md

The "Value for Value" funding model is discussed as an alternative to traditional advertising, emphasizing listener support through time, talent, and treasure. The hosts also provided feedback on listener-submitted artwork, noting that celebrity images like Taylor Swift cannot be used for official album art due to legal restrictions.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), bordeaux superior

### New York Times Lawsuit, Microsoft and OpenAI Copyright

- **Episode:** [1620: Yoko Swifto](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1620-yoko-swifto.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-28
- **Time:** 8:19–20:47
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1620-yoko-swifto/chapter/new-york-times-lawsuit-microsoft-and-openai-copyright.md

The New York Times filed a major lawsuit against Microsoft and OpenAI, alleging billions of dollars in damages for copyright infringement. The suit claims millions of articles were used without permission to train automated chatbots that now compete with the newspaper as an information source. Legal experts, including Lawrence Lessig, debate whether the ingestion of this data constitutes "fair use" or a transformative use of protected content.

Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [copyright infringement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright-infringement.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md)

### Microsoft's "Shim" Strategy and AI Copyright Lawsuits

- **Episode:** [1610: p-doom](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom.md)
- **Published:** 2023-11-23
- **Time:** 1:13:55–1:20:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom/chapter/microsoft-s-shim-strategy-and-ai-copyright-lawsuits.md

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella clarified that Microsoft owns the intellectual property and compute rights necessary to continue OpenAI's mission even if the startup fails. The hosts describe OpenAI as a "shim" designed to protect Microsoft from the legal liability of massive copyright infringement lawsuits filed by authors. The discussion touches on the legal definition of "fair use" and how it applies to large language models.

Keywords: [satya nadella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satya-nadella.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [azure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azure.md), [copyright infringement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright-infringement.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [vanilla ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vanilla-ice.md)

### Barry Diller on AI Copyright and Fair Use

- **Episode:** [1594: Gene Jock](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock.md)
- **Published:** 2023-09-29
- **Time:** 2:54:51–2:58:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/barry-diller-on-ai-copyright-and-fair-use.md

Media mogul Barry Diller expressed his disdain for the current AI hype, arguing that "fair use" laws must be redefined to prevent AI companies from "sucking up" copyrighted content without payment. Diller, representing Dotdash Meredith, stated that publishers are seeking standing to sue AI developers for appropriation. He dismissed the current state of AI as "research" and noted that no one is yet making significant revenue from the technology.

Keywords: [barry diller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-diller.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), dotdash meredith, [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md)

### Episode Artwork and Disney Litigation

- **Episode:** [1574: X-Ray Specs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1574-x-ray-specs.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-20
- **Time:** 1:29:08–1:31:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1574-x-ray-specs/chapter/episode-artwork-and-disney-litigation.md

The hosts review the artwork submissions for the previous episode, selecting a piece by Dame Kenny Ben featuring a "time-blind" clock. They discuss the challenges of using certain imagery, noting that they avoid Disney or Paramount characters due to the companies' litigious nature. The segment highlights the "No Agenda Art Generator" as a hub for producer creativity.

Keywords: [dame kenny ben](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame-kenny-ben.md), time-blindness, [aspartame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspartame.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md)

### No Agenda Art, Episode 1473 Artwork Selection

- **Episode:** [1474: Heart Dart](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1474-heart-dart.md)
- **Published:** 2022-08-04
- **Time:** 1:38:19–1:43:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1474-heart-dart/chapter/no-agenda-art-episode-1473-artwork-selection.md

The hosts review the artwork submissions for episode 1473, titled "Meth Raging." They discuss the creative process behind pieces like "Men Denied" and "The Lesbian," debating the merits of different visual metaphors for current news events. The segment highlights the contribution of the "No Agenda Art Generator" community to the show's production.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [cesium-137](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesium-137.md), [monkeypox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monkeypox.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md)

### Episode Art Deconstruction, Fair Use Rules

- **Episode:** [1456: Verbate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1456-verbate.md)
- **Published:** 2022-06-02
- **Time:** 1:32:20–1:37:13
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1456-verbate/chapter/episode-art-deconstruction-fair-use-rules.md

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the podcast, focusing on a Memorial Day piece by "Capitalist Agenda." They discuss the strict rules for the "No Agenda" art gallery, which prohibit the use of stolen or copyrighted commercial art without significant transformative work. The segment serves as a guide for new artists on how to navigate fair use and parody in their submissions.

Keywords: [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [memorial day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memorial-day.md), [capitalist agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalist-agenda.md)

### Facebook Podcasting Launch, Copyright Algorithm Issues

- **Episode:** [1409: Viral Blizzard](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1409-viral-blizzard.md)
- **Published:** 2021-12-20
- **Time:** 1:31:19–1:35:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1409-viral-blizzard/chapter/facebook-podcasting-launch-copyright-algorithm-issues.md

Facebook's new podcasting platform is criticized for its automated copyright enforcement, which flagged No Agenda content for fair-use parodies. The hosts urge producers to remove the show from Facebook, arguing that the platform's algorithms allow major corporations like CBS and Warner Music Group to hijack advertising revenue.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [warner music group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warner-music-group.md)

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