# Downloads on The No Agenda Show

Downloads comes up in 21 chapters across 21 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from December 2008 to April 2026.

- **Chapters:** 21
- **Episodes:** 21
- **Discussed:** December 2008 – April 2026
- **Related topics:** [Value For Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [Podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [Apple Podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), [Podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [Analytics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/analytics.md), [Midas Touch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midas-touch.md), [Paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [Podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md), [Ad Fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ad-fraud.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 21

### Midas Touch Network, Soros Investment, Podcast Chart Manipulation

- **Episode:** [1858: Nut Spread](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread.md)
- **Published:** 2026-04-09
- **Time:** 1:52:39–1:55:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/midas-touch-network-soros-investment-podcast-chart-manipulation.md

The Midas Touch Network reportedly received a significant investment from Soros Fund Management as part of a broader effort to build a liberal audio empire. The hosts explain how the network manipulates podcast charts by releasing multiple short segments per day to inflate download numbers. This strategy mirrors the acquisition of Crooked Media and other "Trump-hating" outlets by Soros-linked funds.

Keywords: [midas touch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midas-touch.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), podcast charts, [crooked media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crooked-media.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### Value for Value, Modern Podcast Apps, Download Scams

- **Episode:** [1770: Control Grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1770-control-grid.md)
- **Published:** 2025-06-05
- **Time:** 2:07:02–2:12:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1770-control-grid/chapter/value-for-value-modern-podcast-apps-download-scams.md

The hosts discussed the "Value for Value" funding model and the importance of using modern podcast apps that support the Podping system built on blockchain technology. They criticized legacy apps for using auto-downloads to inflate statistics and warned of "download farms" in China that use thousands of cell phones to scam advertising metrics. By avoiding traditional ads and first-party data tracking, the show maintains independence through direct listener support.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podping.md), [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), download farms, [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md)

### Podcast App Trends, OP3 Download Statistics

- **Episode:** [1747: HiFi Intel](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1747-hifi-intel.md)
- **Published:** 2025-03-16
- **Time:** 1:57:13–2:03:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1747-hifi-intel/chapter/podcast-app-trends-op3-download-statistics.md

Download statistics from the OP3 open-source system show that 11% of No Agenda listeners use the show's website, while 17% use Podverse. The hosts discuss the decline of traditional podcast apps due to "inbox fatigue" and the shift toward streaming. Modern apps like Podverse are recommended for their ability to receive "bat signal" notifications for live broadcasts.

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### Midas Touch Download Metrics, PodScribe, and PAC Origins

- **Episode:** [1740: DOGE-CAM](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1740-doge-cam.md)
- **Published:** 2025-02-20
- **Time:** 9:14–15:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1740-doge-cam/chapter/midas-touch-download-metrics-podscribe-and-pac-origins.md

An investigation into Midas Touch's reported 57 million monthly downloads reveals a high-frequency publishing strategy of 13 to 20 short episodes per day. The entity's origins as a 2020 anti-Trump Super PAC and its ties to wealthy political circles are highlighted as factors in its rapid growth.

Keywords: [midas touch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midas-touch.md), podscribe, download numbers, [super pac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-pac.md), [bot traffic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bot-traffic.md), [jim acosta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jim-acosta.md)

### Podcast Industry Challenges and the CPM Model

- **Episode:** [1650: Algo Juice](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1650-algo-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2024-04-11
- **Time:** 2:22:03–2:23:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1650-algo-juice/chapter/podcast-industry-challenges-and-the-cpm-model.md

The traditional CPM (cost per mille) advertising model is increasingly viewed as unsustainable for the podcasting industry due to unreliable download metrics. Critics argue that the industry is plagued by "scammy" practices, such as using video game rewards to inflate subscriber numbers. The "Value for Value" model is proposed as a more honest alternative for content monetization.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), cpm model, [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### Value for Value Model and Podcast App Innovation

- **Episode:** [1647: Carbon Bomb](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1647-carbon-bomb.md)
- **Published:** 2024-03-31
- **Time:** 2:27:12–2:32:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1647-carbon-bomb/chapter/value-for-value-model-and-podcast-app-innovation.md

The podcast continues to operate on the "Value for Value" model, relying on producer contributions rather than traditional advertising or data tracking. The hosts highlight the benefits of modern podcast apps like Podverse, which support real-time transcripts and chapters. They also discuss a 25% drop in industry download numbers after Apple changed how iOS 17 handles automatic episode downloads, exposing previous "scams" in podcast metrics.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### Value for Value Model and Podcast Download Fraud

- **Episode:** [1614: Blinking Red Lights](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1614-blinking-red-lights.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-10
- **Time:** 2:03:54–2:17:18
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1614-blinking-red-lights/chapter/value-for-value-model-and-podcast-download-fraud.md

The podcasting industry is facing a crisis as Apple's iOS 17 update changed how episodes are automatically downloaded, leading to a significant drop in reported numbers for many networks. This shift has exposed that up to 15% of industry download statistics were likely fraudulent or "ghost" downloads. In contrast, the "Value for Value" model used by independent shows remains resilient because it relies on direct listener support rather than inflated advertising metrics.

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### Podcast Advertising Metrics and Apple App Glitches

- **Episode:** [1380: TransMoney](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1380-transmoney.md)
- **Published:** 2021-09-11
- **Time:** 10:56–13:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1380-transmoney/chapter/podcast-advertising-metrics-and-apple-app-glitches.md

The reliability of podcast advertising metrics is questioned, specifically the use of downloads as a proxy for actual listens. A recent glitch in the Apple Podcasts app that stopped automatic downloads resulted in a 27% drop in reported numbers, which the industry largely ignored.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md), [ip addresses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ip-addresses.md)

### No Agenda Listenership Growth, Value for Value Model

- **Episode:** [1244: Gain of Function](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function.md)
- **Published:** 2020-05-24
- **Time:** 13:02–18:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/no-agenda-listenership-growth-value-for-value-model.md

Adam Curry reports a significant surge in No Agenda listenership following his appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, with baseline numbers increasing up to 2,000% on Apple Podcasts. The discussion contrasts the "value for value" independent model with corporate podcasting acquisitions like Gimlet Media by Spotify. They posit that independence is the only way to avoid the "censorship bin" of mainstream platforms.

Keywords: [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), podcast connect, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [gimlet media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gimlet-media.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### Deactivating Facebook and Instagram Usage Trends

- **Episode:** [1039: Bot Cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops.md)
- **Published:** 2018-06-04
- **Time:** 17:14–18:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1039-bot-cops/chapter/deactivating-facebook-and-instagram-usage-trends.md

One of the hosts announces the deactivation of their Facebook account due to a lack of perceived value and concerns over platform toxicity. The decision was mirrored by family members who only maintained accounts for familial connectivity, though the move does not yet extend to Instagram, which remains a primary platform for younger demographics.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), account deactivation, data download, [social media trends](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media-trends.md)

### Norm Pattis Lawsuit, Podcast One, Download Number Manipulation

- **Episode:** [968: In the Saddle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/968-in-the-saddle.md)
- **Published:** 2017-09-28
- **Time:** 2:13:29–2:18:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/968-in-the-saddle/chapter/norm-pattis-lawsuit-podcast-one-download-number-manipulation.md

Radio legend Norm Pattis and his network, Podcast One, are facing lawsuits from a former employee alleging unethical business practices. The employee claims Pattis brandished a firearm while demanding that download numbers be "doctored" to inflate advertising rates. The incident highlights the ongoing struggle to monetize podcast networks and the prevalence of fraudulent metrics in the industry.

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### Apple Podcast Analytics, Impact on Advertising

- **Episode:** [937: Stump the Algo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/937-stump-the-algo.md)
- **Published:** 2017-06-11
- **Time:** 2:37:36–2:44:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/937-stump-the-algo/chapter/apple-podcast-analytics-impact-on-advertising.md

Apple is introducing episode-level analytics to its podcast app, allowing creators to see exactly when listeners skip or stop an episode. This shift toward transparent data is expected to disrupt the podcast advertising industry, as many "mainstream" shows have been inflating their listener numbers based on raw download stats.

Keywords: [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), [analytics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/analytics.md), [podcast advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-advertising.md), [rss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### New York Times Podcast Strategy, Advertising Challenges

- **Episode:** [871: New World Hackers](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/871-new-world-hackers.md)
- **Published:** 2016-10-23
- **Time:** 2:03:42–2:11:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/871-new-world-hackers/chapter/new-york-times-podcast-strategy-advertising-challenges.md

The New York Times is expanding its podcast library to attract younger subscribers, despite imminent newsroom cuts. The hosts critique the Times's struggle to monetize the medium and their realization that download metrics are an unreliable measure of actual listenership.

Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), michael barbaro, [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

### NPR Podcast Measurement Guidelines and Industry Scrutiny

- **Episode:** [798: Dangerous Speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/798-dangerous-speech.md)
- **Published:** 2016-02-11
- **Time:** 2:38:17–2:40:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/798-dangerous-speech/chapter/npr-podcast-measurement-guidelines-and-industry-scrutiny.md

NPR releases new guidelines for measuring podcast downloads, acknowledging the difficulty in accurately identifying unique listeners. The hosts dismiss these industry standards as "bullshit" and a "scam" designed for the advertising market, reaffirming their commitment to a direct listener-supported model that doesn't rely on inflated metrics.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), podcast measurement, [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md), [analytics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/analytics.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

### Subscriber Numbers, PayPal Issues and BitTorrent

- **Episode:** [736: Show 200.7 Redux](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/736-show-200-7-redux.md)
- **Published:** 2015-07-05
- **Time:** 2:03:18–2:05:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/736-show-200-7-redux/chapter/subscriber-numbers-paypal-issues-and-bittorrent.md

The hosts discuss the difficulty of tracking exact listener numbers due to proxies and BitTorrent distribution, estimating their reach between 50,000 and 400,000 people. They note they have about 1,500 "paying subscribers" but face constant issues with PayPal bouncing recurring payments. They express a need for more stable subscription growth.

Keywords: [subscribers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscribers.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [bittorrent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bittorrent.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md), [proxies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/proxies.md), stability

### Open Source Software and Download Scams

- **Episode:** [623: Fact Pattern](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/623-fact-pattern.md)
- **Published:** 2014-06-08
- **Time:** 1:01:15–1:06:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/623-fact-pattern/chapter/open-source-software-and-download-scams.md

The hosts advocate for supporting independent open-source developers through donations. They warn against "scam-ware" and deceptive download buttons on sites like CNET's Download.com, which often bundle toolbars and malware. A donor known as "Spoon Collection" contributes $333.33, sparking a discussion on the decline of the traditional shareware model.

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### Software Dialogue Boxes and User Negligence

- **Episode:** [568: Heteroflexible Previvor](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/568-heteroflexible-previvor.md)
- **Published:** 2013-11-24
- **Time:** 50:24–52:14
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/568-heteroflexible-previvor/chapter/software-dialogue-boxes-and-user-negligence.md

A "pet peeve" segment focuses on users who dismiss computer or smartphone dialogue boxes without reading the error message. The hosts cite examples where users complain about failed downloads while ignoring warnings about cellular data limits.

Keywords: dialogue box, [user interface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/user-interface.md), software errors, cellular data, download

### No Agenda Nation SKU and Airtime Sales

- **Episode:** [515: Wantonly Podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/515-wantonly-podcasting.md)
- **Published:** 2013-05-23
- **Time:** 55:51–59:43
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/515-wantonly-podcasting/chapter/no-agenda-nation-sku-and-airtime-sales.md

To protect donors from scrutiny, a plan is proposed to sell "airtime" or "bags of air" through an eBay storefront or the No Agenda Nation website. This would allow supporters to purchase a product with a standard SKU rather than making a direct donation, providing a layer of professional cover for government employees.

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### iOS 5 Podcast Download Bug and Infrastructure Changes

- **Episode:** [446: The Convincables](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/446-the-convincables.md)
- **Published:** 2012-09-23
- **Time:** 17:37–19:28
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/446-the-convincables/chapter/ios-5-podcast-download-bug-and-infrastructure-changes.md

A technical issue within Apple's iOS 5 and iTunes is identified where podcasts are reportedly downloading ten times, potentially exhausting user data plans. The show has transitioned its MP3 hosting to producer-run infrastructure to better monitor these anomalies. This glitch results in a 100MB show consuming a full gigabyte of data for mobile users.

Keywords: ios 5, [itunes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/itunes.md), podcast downloads, [data caps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-caps.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md)

### PayPal Data Access Issues, Call Center Frustrations

- **Episode:** [375: Problematic Woman](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/375-problematic-woman.md)
- **Published:** 2012-01-19
- **Time:** 5:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/375-problematic-woman/chapter/paypal-data-access-issues-call-center-frustrations.md

The hosts describe technical difficulties obtaining financial data from PayPal for their production accounts. One host details a frustrating interaction with a customer service representative, purportedly located in a Filipino call center, which ended in a disconnected call. The discussion highlights the inefficiency of manual data retrieval in the era of cloud computing.

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