# Donation Model on The No Agenda Show

Donation Model comes up in 11 chapters across 10 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2009 to May 2022.

- **Chapters:** 11
- **Episodes:** 10
- **Discussed:** April 2009 – May 2022
- **Related topics:** [Podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [Business Model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-model.md), [Donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [Value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [Austin Texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md), [Belfast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belfast.md), [Breaking Bad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breaking-bad.md), [Business Cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-cards.md), [Cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md)

## Chapters 1–11 of 11

### Donation Segment Etiquette and Producer Notes

- **Episode:** [1453: Shoehorn Event](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event.md)
- **Published:** 2022-05-22
- **Time:** 1:32:22–1:38:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event/chapter/donation-segment-etiquette-and-producer-notes.md

A conflict regarding the length and content of donation notes is addressed, with the hosts asserting their right to redact or skip tedious messages. They clarify that the show's business model is based on mutual value rather than a transactional obligation to read every listener's letter.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [producer notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producer-notes.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [gratitude](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gratitude.md), [business model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-model.md)

### Producer Donations, No Agenda Meetups

- **Episode:** [806: Babushkas of Chernobyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl.md)
- **Published:** 2016-03-10
- **Time:** 1:24:48–1:32:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl/chapter/producer-donations-no-agenda-meetups.md

A series of donations from listeners in Belfast, Potts Town, and Canada are acknowledged with "karma" and sound effects. The hosts promote the No Agenda meetup website, encouraging listeners to connect with like-minded individuals in their local areas. They emphasize that the show's value comes from its independent, commercial-free deconstruction of the news.

Keywords: [belfast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belfast.md), potts town, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md)

### No Agenda Value Proposition, SiriusXM Criticism

- **Episode:** [806: Babushkas of Chernobyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl.md)
- **Published:** 2016-03-10
- **Time:** 2:39:38–2:43:59
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl/chapter/no-agenda-value-proposition-siriusxm-criticism.md

The hosts contrast the No Agenda donation model with traditional media like SiriusXM, which they criticize for running deceptive advertisements for products like "SuperBeats." They argue that hosts like Thom Hartmann cannot be critical of companies like Uber because they rely on their advertising revenue. The segment concludes with a final round of birthday wishes and "karma" for the producers.

Keywords: [siriusxm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siriusxm.md), [thom hartmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thom-hartmann.md), [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md)

### Healthy Surprise, Austin Migration and Value-for-Value

- **Episode:** [480: War on Brains](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/480-war-on-brains.md)
- **Published:** 2013-01-20
- **Time:** 40:52–43:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/480-war-on-brains/chapter/healthy-surprise-austin-migration-and-value-for-value.md

Joe from Healthy Surprise sends a gift box of snacks and expresses his intention to move his business from California to Austin, Texas. The hosts use this as an opportunity to explain their "value-for-value" funding model, which relies on listener donations rather than traditional advertising. They encourage listeners to join the mailing list and support the show's infrastructure.

Keywords: [healthy surprise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthy-surprise.md), [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md), california migration, [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md)

### Podcast Production Logistics, Listener Consumption Habits

- **Episode:** [442: Zombie Webinar](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/442-zombie-webinar.md)
- **Published:** 2012-09-09
- **Time:** 3:07–4:39
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/442-zombie-webinar/chapter/podcast-production-logistics-listener-consumption-habits.md

The hosts discuss the current state of show donations and the tendency of listeners to treat the podcast like a serial drama such as Breaking Bad. They advise listeners to skip old episodes rather than trying to catch up, emphasizing the topical nature of the content.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md), [breaking bad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breaking-bad.md), [media consumption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-consumption.md)

### CNN Critique of No Agenda Donation Model

- **Episode:** [313: Hide Your Forks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/313-hide-your-forks.md)
- **Published:** 2011-06-16
- **Time:** 45:32–48:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/313-hide-your-forks/chapter/cnn-critique-of-no-agenda-donation-model.md

CNN technology writer Mark Millian published an article criticizing the donation-based business models of apps and podcasts, specifically mentioning the No Agenda show. The article incorrectly claimed the show asks for a mandatory $50 monthly donation, which the hosts debunk as a misunderstanding of their voluntary "value-for-value" system. This error is cited as an example of mainstream media's failure to accurately report on independent media.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), mark millian, instapaper, [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

### Value-for-Value Model, No Agenda Business Cards

- **Episode:** [249: Multidimensional Poverty Index](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/249-multidimensional-poverty-index.md)
- **Published:** 2010-11-04
- **Time:** 12:12–15:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/249-multidimensional-poverty-index/chapter/value-for-value-model-no-agenda-business-cards.md

The podcast's "value-for-value" funding model is defended against suggestions to switch to a subscription-based system. Listeners are encouraged to propagate the show's formula using custom business cards, with one producer, Alan Bowes, reporting that he hides cards in books and electronics packaging across North America. The hosts suggest using services like Vistaprint to create free cards for distribution in public spaces like grocery stores.

Keywords: [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), vistaprint, [propagation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propagation.md), [business cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-cards.md), [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md)

### Establishing the $100 Douche Level

- **Episode:** [238: Hawaii-Five-Blows](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/238-hawaii-five-blows.md)
- **Published:** 2010-09-26
- **Time:** 1:15:27–1:18:06
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/238-hawaii-five-blows/chapter/establishing-the-100-douche-level.md

To manage the increasing number of requests for "de-douching" and "douchebag call-outs," the hosts decide to set a formal donation level of $100 for these specific mentions. They emphasize that the show is 100% listener-supported and does not accept traditional advertising or corporate underwriting.

Keywords: donation levels, [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [listener supported](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-supported.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [business model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-model.md)

### Value-for-Value Calculation and Parking Meter Comparisons

- **Episode:** [131: Bill Maher Sucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/131-bill-maher-sucks.md)
- **Published:** 2009-09-17
- **Time:** 1:18:32–1:20:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/131-bill-maher-sucks/chapter/value-for-value-calculation-and-parking-meter-comparisons.md

A listener's calculation of donating $1 per episode is discussed, leading to a breakdown of the show's cost-to-value ratio. The hosts compare the suggested 50 cents per show donation to the cost of parking in San Francisco, which is 25 cents for five minutes. They argue that providing 90 minutes of entertainment for the price of ten minutes of parking is a reasonable request for those who find value in the program.

Keywords: [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [parking meters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parking-meters.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), micro-payments

### No Agenda Producer Donations, Scuba Vision Productions

- **Episode:** [103: Taylor Swift Sucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks.md)
- **Published:** 2009-06-11
- **Time:** 46:01–49:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks/chapter/no-agenda-producer-donations-scuba-vision-productions.md

The hosts acknowledge financial support from producers, including Robert Montgomery, John Stewart, and Scuba Vision Productions. They compare their donation-based funding model to PBS, noting that some donors use their contributions as a form of low-cost commercial promotion for their businesses.

Keywords: robert montgomery, [john stewart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-stewart.md), scuba vision productions, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), pbs model

### Exit Strategy, Ten Million Dollar Goal

- **Episode:** [88: Perchlorate and Cut Fiber](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber.md)
- **Published:** 2009-04-12
- **Time:** 1:16:52–1:18:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/exit-strategy-ten-million-dollar-goal.md

The hosts propose a new "reverse" funding model where they set a goal of 10 million dollars, at which point they will permanently end the show. They suggest creating a specific donation category for listeners who want to pay to get them off the air, arguing that this provides a clear destiny for the program.

Keywords: [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md), [exit strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exit-strategy.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md), [no agenda library](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-library.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

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