# Copper on The No Agenda Show

Copper comes up in 21 chapters across 21 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2008 to July 2026.

- **Chapters:** 21
- **Episodes:** 21
- **Discussed:** April 2008 – July 2026
- **Related topics:** [China](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [Brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [Electric Vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), [Infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [Mercedes-benz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercedes-benz.md), [Africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md), [At&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [Austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [Australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [Blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 21

### AI Infrastructure Bubble, Data Center Real Estate Scams

- **Episode:** [1882: Buy the Crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1882-buy-the-crash.md)
- **Published:** 2026-07-02
- **Time:** 1:03:28–1:08:28
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1882-buy-the-crash/chapter/ai-infrastructure-bubble-data-center-real-estate-scams.md

The hosts analyze the global rush to build "hyperscale" data centers as a potential real estate scam or investment bubble. They argue that the physical size of these proposed facilities, such as the Utah project, makes little sense for actual compute needs. The discussion also addresses public fears that these centers are for mass surveillance, noting that surveillance is already primarily conducted via smartphones.

Keywords: [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [nvidia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nvidia.md), [surveillance state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance-state.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), copper futures

### Indonesia Copper Deal, Tariffs and Global Market Access

- **Episode:** [1782: Circularity](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1782-circularity.md)
- **Published:** 2025-07-17
- **Time:** 1:28:31–1:32:14
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1782-circularity/chapter/indonesia-copper-deal-tariffs-and-global-market-access.md

President Donald Trump announced a significant trade agreement with Indonesia, granting the United States full access to high-quality copper and other valuable materials without tariffs. Under the deal, Indonesia will pay a 19% tariff on certain exports while the U.S. pays nothing, a model Trump intends to replicate with India. The strategy aims to use tariffs as leverage to open foreign markets that have historically lacked American products and infrastructure.

Keywords: [indonesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indonesia.md), [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md)

### EV Charging Infrastructure, Copper Theft and Vandalism

- **Episode:** [1664: Friendshoring](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1664-friendshoring.md)
- **Published:** 2024-05-30
- **Time:** 2:02:35–2:07:56
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1664-friendshoring/chapter/ev-charging-infrastructure-copper-theft-and-vandalism.md

Despite a $7.5 billion federal investment, only a handful of EV charging stations have been built since 2021. In cities like Vallejo and Minneapolis, existing chargers are being targeted by thieves who cut the heavy cables to steal the copper inside. The cost of repairing these stations far exceeds the scrap value of the copper, creating a significant hurdle for the national charging network's reliability.

Keywords: ev chargers, copper theft, [pete buttigieg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-buttigieg.md), [minneapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minneapolis.md), [vallejo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vallejo.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md)

### EV Market Collapse and Ammonia-Powered Cars

- **Episode:** [1610: p-doom](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom.md)
- **Published:** 2023-11-23
- **Time:** 2:14:57–2:18:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1610-p-doom/chapter/ev-market-collapse-and-ammonia-powered-cars.md

The electric vehicle market is facing challenges as copper prices fluctuate and insurance companies struggle to cover high battery replacement costs. A report from a Mercedes-Benz insider suggests that high-end AMG models will transition to four-cylinder engines paired with batteries, a move unpopular with enthusiasts. Additionally, Toyota has announced a prototype engine that runs on ammonia, which the hosts view with skepticism.

Keywords: [mercedes-benz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercedes-benz.md), [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), amg, [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), ammonia engine, copper prices

### Panama Copper Mine Protests, First Quantum Minerals

- **Episode:** [1608: Woke Up Dead](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1608-woke-up-dead.md)
- **Published:** 2023-11-16
- **Time:** 2:06:32–2:11:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1608-woke-up-dead/chapter/panama-copper-mine-protests-first-quantum-minerals.md

Massive protests have paralyzed Panama following the government's approval of a renegotiated contract with Canadian firm First Quantum Minerals for a massive open-pit copper mine. Citizens argue the deal is an attack on national sovereignty and the environment, benefiting foreign investors like BlackRock and the Chinese state. Despite President Cortizo's promise to use mining royalties to increase retiree pensions, roadblocks and strikes continue across the country.

Keywords: [panama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama.md), copper mine, first quantum minerals, [blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md)

### Electric Vehicle Sales Slump, Copper and Rare Earth Shortages

- **Episode:** [1602: Net Equity](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1602-net-equity.md)
- **Published:** 2023-10-26
- **Time:** 2:05:02–2:08:26
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1602-net-equity/chapter/electric-vehicle-sales-slump-copper-and-rare-earth-shortages.md

The UK has seen a 15% drop in electric vehicle (EV) sales as consumers continue to prefer petrol and diesel cars. Industry warnings from Mercedes-Benz and reports on copper supply shortages suggest the "energy transition" is facing significant hurdles. Additionally, China's export curbs on rare earth minerals like gallium and germanium are impacting the global semiconductor market.

Keywords: [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), [mercedes-benz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercedes-benz.md), [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md), gallium, germanium

### Surfside Condo Collapse, Chinese Copper Pipe Theory

- **Episode:** [1359: Sheep Dipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1359-sheep-dipping.md)
- **Published:** 2021-06-27
- **Time:** 3:10–7:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1359-sheep-dipping/chapter/surfside-condo-collapse-chinese-copper-pipe-theory.md

The discussion focuses on the Champlain Towers South collapse in Surfside, Florida. A theory is presented suggesting that 40-year-old Chinese copper piping with microscopic punctures caused long-term water damage to the concrete structure. This moisture allegedly led to rebar corrosion and "palling," where expanding metal cracks the concrete from within, eventually compromising the building's integrity.

Keywords: surfside, [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), champlain towers south, chinese copper, micro punctures, rebar corrosion, palling

### Knighting of Sir Doug and Sir Abundance of Caution

- **Episode:** [1226: Bat's True!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1226-bat-s-true.md)
- **Published:** 2020-03-22
- **Time:** 2:36:49–2:41:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1226-bat-s-true/chapter/knighting-of-sir-doug-and-sir-abundance-of-caution.md

Donors Robert Ryan, Joel Tucker, and Eric Henry provided contributions, with Eric Henry taking the title "Sir Abundance of Caution." Robert Fittler was knighted as "Sir Doug, Knight of the Copper Lines," requesting a round table feast of beans on toast and honey mead. The hosts process various "F-cancer" and "job karma" requests for the newly minted knights and their families.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [f-cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-cancer.md), [job karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-karma.md), [mead](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mead.md), [mutton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mutton.md), copper lines

### Fiber Reliability, Squirrel Damage and Network Bottlenecks

- **Episode:** [1067: Double Header](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header.md)
- **Published:** 2018-09-09
- **Time:** 1:20:06–1:25:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/fiber-reliability-squirrel-damage-and-network-bottlenecks.md

Dane Jasper highlights the superior reliability of fiber over copper networks, which are susceptible to water incursion and rodent damage. He explains that fiber connections offer rock-solid low latency compared to variable cable connections. Jasper notes that with gigabit speeds, the "wide area network" is no longer the bottleneck, shifting technical issues to local Wi-Fi or outdated hardware.

Keywords: [squirrels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrels.md), [latency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latency.md), gpon, gigabit ethernet, copper vs fiber

### Australian Road Trip and Canadian Copper Ban

- **Episode:** [976: 10th Anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/976-10th-anniversary.md)
- **Published:** 2017-10-27
- **Time:** 6:33:33–6:37:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/976-10th-anniversary/chapter/australian-road-trip-and-canadian-copper-ban.md

An Australian listener recounts a U.S. road trip that led to his discovery of the show. A Canadian producer from British Columbia mentions the ban on copper pennies in Canada and requests a jingle featuring a screaming Korean news lady.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md), [drone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone.md), news lady

### Antimicrobial Metals and the Subway Tampon Anecdote

- **Episode:** [880: Promise to Prosecute](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-24
- **Time:** 3:04:58–3:07:15
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute/chapter/antimicrobial-metals-and-the-subway-tampon-anecdote.md

A producer provides information on the antimicrobial properties of copper and brass, explaining why they were historically used for door handles to kill bacteria. This leads to a "disgusting" anecdote from a subway worker who witnessed a woman change a tampon in mid-stride on a station floor and then touch an escalator railing.

Keywords: [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md), brass, antimicrobial, [hygiene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hygiene.md), [subway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subway.md)

### China-Africa Trade, Economic Slowdown

- **Episode:** [806: Babushkas of Chernobyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl.md)
- **Published:** 2016-03-10
- **Time:** 2:52:07–2:54:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/806-babushkas-of-chernobyl/chapter/china-africa-trade-economic-slowdown.md

China's economic slowdown is negatively impacting African nations that rely on commodity exports. Trade between Africa and China fell by 40% last year, with major exporters like Nigeria and Angola seeing their exports halved. Despite the downturn, China continues to fund infrastructure projects in the Democratic Republic of Congo in exchange for mineral rights.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [commodities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commodities.md), [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md)

### Tony Bennett Live Performance, Austin Balcony Experience

- **Episode:** [584: Hybrid Pigs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/584-hybrid-pigs.md)
- **Published:** 2014-01-20
- **Time:** 2:25–5:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/584-hybrid-pigs/chapter/tony-bennett-live-performance-austin-balcony-experience.md

A host recounts attending an 87-year-old Tony Bennett's live performance in Austin, Texas. The experience included a balcony view with champagne provided by a friend, Eric Copper, and a notable unamplified rendition of "Fly Me to the Moon" by Bennett.

Keywords: [tony bennett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-bennett.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), fly me to the moon, eric copper, [live music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-music.md)

### Brazil Sugar Warehouse Fire and Global Price Spikes

- **Episode:** [558: Clouds of Crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/558-clouds-of-crisis.md)
- **Published:** 2013-10-20
- **Time:** 1:01:35–1:03:19
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/558-clouds-of-crisis/chapter/brazil-sugar-warehouse-fire-and-global-price-spikes.md

A massive fire at the Port of Santos in Brazil destroyed 180,000 tons of raw sugar, causing international sugar prices to reach a one-year high. The incident affected warehouses owned by Copper Sucar, the world's largest sugar trader.

Keywords: [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), santos, sugar prices, copper sucar, [international trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-trade.md)

### Louisiana House Bill 195 Bans Cash for Second-Hand Goods

- **Episode:** [349: Grandma Clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/349-grandma-clinton.md)
- **Published:** 2011-10-20
- **Time:** 1:30:20–1:36:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/349-grandma-clinton/chapter/louisiana-house-bill-195-bans-cash-for-second-hand-goods.md

Louisiana Representative Ricky Hardy co-authored House Bill 195, which prohibits the use of cash in transactions for second-hand goods, requiring checks or electronic payments instead. The law targets criminals selling stolen copper and electronics but also applies to jewelry, precious metals, and furniture. The hosts argue the law is unconstitutional as it rejects US currency as legal tender for debt.

Keywords: [louisiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louisiana.md), hb 195, ricky hardy, [cash ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash-ban.md), second-hand dealers, copper theft

### China Proxy War, Peru Earthquake Retaliation, Cell Signal Outages

- **Episode:** [333: Lions Stood Still](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/333-lions-stood-still.md)
- **Published:** 2011-08-25
- **Time:** 11:07–13:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/333-lions-stood-still/chapter/china-proxy-war-peru-earthquake-retaliation-cell-signal-outages.md

The conflict in Libya is framed as a proxy war between the United States and China over resource control. Speculation suggests the U.S. earthquakes were Chinese "zaps" targeting intelligence hubs, followed by a retaliatory 6.7 magnitude earthquake at Chinese-owned copper mines in Peru. Total cell phone signal loss on AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile during the East Coast quake is cited as evidence of a potential EMP or directed energy weapon.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [peru](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peru.md), copper mines, [emp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emp.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [t-mobile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/t-mobile.md)

### Earthquake Machine Theory, US-China Proxy War Claims

- **Episode:** [178: HAARP-ing on Earthquakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/178-haarp-ing-on-earthquakes.md)
- **Published:** 2010-02-28
- **Time:** 21:30–27:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/178-haarp-ing-on-earthquakes/chapter/earthquake-machine-theory-us-china-proxy-war-claims.md

Adam Curry posits a theory that the Chile earthquake was an intentional act of "earthquake machine" warfare between the United States and China. He cites a 7.3 magnitude quake in Okinawa near US Marine bases as a Chinese provocation, followed by a US retaliation against Chile to disrupt Chinese copper interests. The theory references UN charters regarding environmental modification and the strategic importance of Iran to Chinese resource security.

Keywords: [earthquake machine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake-machine.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [okinawa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/okinawa.md), [chile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chile.md), [haarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haarp.md), copper mines, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

### Battery Quality and Walmart Retail Rant

- **Episode:** [161: Obama vs CIA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/161-obama-vs-cia.md)
- **Published:** 2009-12-31
- **Time:** 18:17–19:10
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/161-obama-vs-cia/chapter/battery-quality-and-walmart-retail-rant.md

A brief complaint arises regarding the poor performance of 9-volt batteries purchased from Walmart or Walgreens. The speaker notes that the batteries, which appeared to be Duracell clones, failed almost immediately after being installed for the show.

Keywords: 9-volt batteries, [walmart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walmart.md), [walgreens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walgreens.md), [duracell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duracell.md), copper top

### United States Mint, Zinc Penny Composition Since 1983

- **Episode:** [103: Taylor Swift Sucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks.md)
- **Published:** 2009-06-11
- **Time:** 3:25–5:09
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks/chapter/united-states-mint-zinc-penny-composition-since-1983.md

The United States Mint has produced pennies primarily from zinc with a copper plating since 1983. A pre-1983 copper penny is estimated to be worth two cents as scrap metal, leading to a discussion on the rising costs of metal and the potential for wooden nickels.

Keywords: united states mint, [pennies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennies.md), [zinc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zinc.md), [copper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copper.md), scrap metal

### Tinfoil Hats, Faraday Cage Baseball Caps, RFID Shielding

- **Episode:** [39: Fascism Today](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/39-fascism-today.md)
- **Published:** 2008-07-19
- **Time:** 52:10–58:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/39-fascism-today/chapter/tinfoil-hats-faraday-cage-baseball-caps-rfid-shielding.md

A discussion on the cultural trope of tinfoil hats leads to a proposal for a commercial product: a Faraday cage insert for baseball caps. The hosts reference an MIT study on the effectiveness of different hat designs against radio waves. They explore the idea of manufacturing these inserts in China to provide protection against RFID scanning and other electronic signals in a discreet manner.

Keywords: [tinfoil hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tinfoil-hat.md), [faraday cage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faraday-cage.md), [rfid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfid.md), [mit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mit.md), copper foil

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