# Conversion Therapy on The No Agenda Show

Conversion Therapy comes up in 14 chapters across 14 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from September 2012 to October 2025.

- **Chapters:** 14
- **Episodes:** 14
- **Discussed:** September 2012 – October 2025
- **Related topics:** [Mike Pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [Lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [Gavin Newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [Hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), [Lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), [Angela Rye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-rye.md), [Biphobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biphobia.md), [Brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [California](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [Chris Matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md)

## Chapters 1–14 of 14

### Supreme Court Conversion Therapy Case, Colorado Legal Battle

- **Episode:** [1806: Gray Zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1806-gray-zone.md)
- **Published:** 2025-10-09
- **Time:** 2:29:37–2:35:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1806-gray-zone/chapter/supreme-court-conversion-therapy-case-colorado-legal-battle.md

The U.S. Supreme Court is hearing arguments regarding Colorado's ban on conversion therapy for minors. The case pits the Alliance Defending Freedom, representing a licensed therapist, against the state's Attorney General. The debate centers on whether the ban violates a therapist's right to free speech and whether the practice meets established medical standards of care.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [nina totenberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nina-totenberg.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

### International Day Against Homophobia, Conversion Therapy Ban

- **Episode:** [1765: Pro-Mortalist](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1765-pro-mortalist.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-18
- **Time:** 58:05–1:03:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1765-pro-mortalist/chapter/international-day-against-homophobia-conversion-therapy-ban.md

The European Union marked the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia with calls for a global ban on conversion therapy. Flora Bolter of the Jean Jaurès Foundation discusses the harmful nature of these practices. The hosts compare the concept of conversion therapy to modern gender-affirming practices in schools, questioning the logic of banning a practice that activists claim is ineffective.

Keywords: [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), flora bolter, jean jaurès foundation, [biphobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biphobia.md)

### Helen Joyce, Transgenderism and Gay Conversion Therapy

- **Episode:** [1575: Numbers Station](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1575-numbers-station.md)
- **Published:** 2023-07-23
- **Time:** 2:43:08–2:48:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1575-numbers-station/chapter/helen-joyce-transgenderism-and-gay-conversion-therapy.md

Author Helen Joyce argues that the modern transgender movement for children is a form of "gay conversion therapy" that leads to mass sterilization. Joyce suggests that adult male transitions are often driven by erotic fetishes rather than an innate "female soul." The discussion posits that the medicalization of gender-nonconforming children is a catastrophic error that will impact the future of the Democratic Party.

Keywords: [helen joyce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helen-joyce.md), [transgenderism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transgenderism.md), gay conversion therapy, [sterilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sterilization.md), [puberty blockers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puberty-blockers.md)

### Justin Trudeau Conversion Therapy, Podcast 2.0 Federation

- **Episode:** [1384: Code Red](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1384-code-red.md)
- **Published:** 2021-09-23
- **Time:** 1:29:05–1:33:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1384-code-red/chapter/justin-trudeau-conversion-therapy-podcast-2-0-federation.md

The hosts discuss Justin Trudeau's stance on conversion therapy, contrasting it with the use of hormone blockers in children. They transition into a promotion for decentralized media, urging listeners to set up Mastodon servers and use "New Podcast Apps" to protect the medium from Silicon Valley gatekeepers like Spotify and Apple.

Keywords: [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md), [podcast 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-2-0.md)

### Mike Pence Homophobia Claims, Ellen Page Colbert Interview

- **Episode:** [1109: Pentacon](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1109-pentacon.md)
- **Published:** 2019-02-05
- **Time:** 42:48–50:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1109-pentacon/chapter/mike-pence-homophobia-claims-ellen-page-colbert-interview.md

Actress Ellen Page appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to criticize Vice President Mike Pence, accusing him of supporting conversion therapy and hating the LGBTQ community. The segment deconstructs these claims, tracing them back to a 2000 congressional campaign statement regarding HIV/AIDS funding. The discussion argues that Page's comments were a coordinated media effort to link Pence's rhetoric to the alleged assault of actor Jussie Smollett.

Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [ellen page](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ellen-page.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [jussie smollett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jussie-smollett.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md)

### Tucker Carlson Interview, LGBT Protest Logic, Mike Pence

- **Episode:** [906: Hitler's Playbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/906-hitler-s-playbook.md)
- **Published:** 2017-02-23
- **Time:** 14:37–20:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/906-hitler-s-playbook/chapter/tucker-carlson-interview-lgbt-protest-logic-mike-pence.md

A Tucker Carlson Tonight segment featuring an LGBT activist is deconstructed for its rhetorical strategy. Carlson questioned the guest on specific executive orders or policies by Donald Trump that would harm the gay community, leading to a circular discussion about Mike Pence's past record. The exchange highlights the "Tucker formula" of latching onto a guest's specific identifier to challenge their policy claims.

Keywords: [tucker carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carson.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [lgbt rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt-rights.md), [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md)

### Deconstructing Mike Pence's Record on HIV and Conversion Therapy

- **Episode:** [880: Promise to Prosecute](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-24
- **Time:** 34:59–40:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/880-promise-to-prosecute/chapter/deconstructing-mike-pence-s-record-on-hiv-and-conversion-therapy.md

The 2000 "Pence Agenda" for the 107th Congress is examined to address claims that Mike Pence supported state-funded conversion therapy. The text reveals Pence called for an audit of the Ryan White Care Act to ensure funds didn't go to organizations "celebrating" behaviors that spread HIV. The hosts argue that the media has fabricated the "conversion therapy" narrative by misinterpreting his call for resources for those seeking to change "sexual behavior."

Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), ryan white care act, [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [fake news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-news.md)

### Hamilton Cast Controversy, Mike Pence Conversion Therapy Claims

- **Episode:** [879: Coup Cabal](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/879-coup-cabal.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-20
- **Time:** 26:22–30:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/879-coup-cabal/chapter/hamilton-cast-controversy-mike-pence-conversion-therapy-claims.md

A CNN panel featuring Angela Rye discusses the cast of the musical "Hamilton" confronting Vice President-elect Mike Pence. The claim that Pence wanted to divert HIV/AIDS funding toward "conversion therapy" is labeled as a persistent piece of fake news. The cast's diversity and the lead actor's HIV-positive status are discussed in the context of their public statement to Pence.

Keywords: [hamilton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamilton.md), [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [angela rye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-rye.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md)

### Mike Pence and LGBTQ Conversion Therapy Claims

- **Episode:** [877: The Angries](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/877-the-angries.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-14
- **Time:** 13:34–15:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/877-the-angries/chapter/mike-pence-and-lgbtq-conversion-therapy-claims.md

The discussion addresses claims that Vice President-elect Mike Pence supports conversion therapy for the LGBTQ community. The hosts characterize these reports as media-driven "bullcrap," arguing that the narrative stems from a misinterpretation of Pence's past policy positions.

Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md)

### Republican Platform, Conversion Therapy, Media Misinformation

- **Episode:** [847: Clean Food](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food.md)
- **Published:** 2016-07-31
- **Time:** 2:10:53–2:13:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/republican-platform-conversion-therapy-media-misinformation.md

The hosts fact-check claims by Chris Matthews and Gavin Newsom that the 2016 Republican platform supports "conversion therapy." Upon reviewing the document, they find the word "therapy" appears only once regarding general medical choice. They conclude the media is extrapolating and spreading misinformation about the platform's contents.

Keywords: [republican platform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-platform.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [fact check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-check.md)

### Mike Pence, Conversion Therapy Allegations

- **Episode:** [846: Tardy Party](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/846-tardy-party.md)
- **Published:** 2016-07-28
- **Time:** 1:11:44–1:15:57
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/846-tardy-party/chapter/mike-pence-conversion-therapy-allegations.md

Gavin Newsom and other Democrats have accused Mike Pence of supporting "conversion therapy" based on a 2000 campaign statement. A review of the original text suggests Pence advocated for directing HIV/AIDS funds toward organizations encouraging changes in "sexual behavior" to prevent disease spread. The leap from this statement to "conversion therapy" is described as a political stretch.

Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), ryan white care act, [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md)

### Republican vs. Democratic Party Platforms

- **Episode:** [845: Kaine & Unable](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/845-kaine-unable.md)
- **Published:** 2016-07-24
- **Time:** 1:46:19–1:50:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/845-kaine-unable/chapter/republican-vs-democratic-party-platforms.md

A comparison of the 2016 party platforms revealed that the Republican document does not explicitly mention "LGBT" but emphasizes parental rights in choosing therapy for children. In contrast, the Democratic platform specifically lists rights for various identity groups, including women, people with disabilities, and the LGBTQ community. The hosts analyzed how these documents are framed by the media.

Keywords: party platform, [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [systemic racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/systemic-racism.md), [criminal justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/criminal-justice.md)

### Mike Pence, Religious Freedom Restoration Act, LGBT Issues

- **Episode:** [844: Witch Hunt](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/844-witch-hunt.md)
- **Published:** 2016-07-21
- **Time:** 45:02–48:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/844-witch-hunt/chapter/mike-pence-religious-freedom-restoration-act-lgbt-issues.md

The media's portrayal of Mike Pence's record on LGBT issues is scrutinized, specifically regarding the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) in Indiana. The hosts discuss the "conversion therapy" narrative being pushed by the Democratic party and clarify the actual text of the law, which protects religious organizations rather than encouraging general discrimination.

Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md), [religious freedom restoration act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-freedom-restoration-act.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md)

### California SB 1172, Gay Conversion Therapy Ban

- **Episode:** [440: It Can't Happen Here](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/440-it-can-t-happen-here.md)
- **Published:** 2012-09-02
- **Time:** 2:33:20–2:40:04
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/440-it-can-t-happen-here/chapter/california-sb-1172-gay-conversion-therapy-ban.md

The California legislature has passed SB 1172, a bill that prohibits mental health providers from engaging in "sexual orientation change efforts" with minors. The hosts discuss the legal definitions in the bill and question the government's intrusion into private therapy practices.

Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), sb 1172, [jerry brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-brown.md), gay conversion therapy, [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md)

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