# Consumption Tax on The No Agenda Show Consumption Tax comes up in 5 chapters across 5 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from January 2008 to November 2012. - **Chapters:** 5 - **Episodes:** 5 - **Discussed:** January 2008 – November 2012 - **Related topics:** [Vat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vat.md), [Black Market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-market.md), [Corporate Tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporate-tax.md), [Cpa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpa.md), [Fair Tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-tax.md), [Gary Johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), [Gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [Irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [Mike Huckabee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-huckabee.md), [Morning Joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md) ## Chapters 1–5 of 5 ### Dutch Prince Friso, Consumption Tax and GDP Spending - **Episode:** [463: Dead Hand of Bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/463-dead-hand-of-bureaucracy.md) - **Published:** 2012-11-22 - **Time:** 3:02:00–3:05:08 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/463-dead-hand-of-bureaucracy/chapter/dutch-prince-friso-consumption-tax-and-gdp-spending.md Reports on the "minimal consciousness" of Dutch Prince Friso following a skiing accident are briefly mentioned. The discussion shifts to a *Morning Joe* segment where guests proposed a consumption tax (VAT) to address the fiscal cliff. The hosts challenge the claim that government spending is only 24% of GDP, asserting the true figure is closer to 40% when all factors are included. Keywords: prince friso, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [consumption tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumption-tax.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [morning joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md) ### Gary Johnson's Fair Tax Plan and Consumption Tax - **Episode:** [451: Mass of Tax Nuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/451-mass-of-tax-nuts.md) - **Published:** 2012-10-11 - **Time:** 2:06:04–2:10:07 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/451-mass-of-tax-nuts/chapter/gary-johnson-s-fair-tax-plan-and-consumption-tax.md Gary Johnson advocates for the "Fair Tax," a plan to abolish the IRS, income tax, and corporate tax in favor of a single 23% federal consumption tax. The hosts discuss the potential benefits and risks of this system, noting that the U.S. government was primarily funded by tariffs prior to the 20th century. They jokingly suggest running a 2016 presidential campaign via Kickstarter based on a value-for-value model. Keywords: [gary johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), [fair tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-tax.md), [consumption tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumption-tax.md), [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [corporate tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporate-tax.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md) ### Consumption Tax vs. VAT, Expenditure Tax Debate - **Episode:** [308: Wiener-Gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/308-wiener-gate.md) - **Published:** 2011-05-29 - **Time:** 1:51:57–1:57:11 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/308-wiener-gate/chapter/consumption-tax-vs-vat-expenditure-tax-debate.md A debate on John Stossel's program regarding a "consumption tax" is analyzed. The proposed tax is distinguished from a Value Added Tax (VAT) by being an "expenditure tax" that shields savings and investments. Critics argue this system would require the government to track all personal spending and would ultimately favor Wall Street by penalizing those who do not invest in traditional financial products. Keywords: [consumption tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumption-tax.md), [vat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vat.md), [sales tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sales-tax.md), stossel, expenditure tax, [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md) ### Tax Code Complexity, CPA Certification, and Consumption Tax - **Episode:** [15: Hot Horse Meat and Hidden Salami](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/15-hot-horse-meat-and-hidden-salami.md) - **Published:** 2008-02-03 - **Time:** 20:50–23:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/15-hot-horse-meat-and-hidden-salami/chapter/tax-code-complexity-cpa-certification-and-consumption-tax.md The complexity of the US tax code is contrasted with the brevity of the Constitution, noting that simplification efforts often result in more complicated laws. One host recounts taking courses to become certified for tax preparation years ago but admits the current system is too dense for non-experts. A consumption tax is proposed as a superior alternative that would encourage savings. Keywords: [tax code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-code.md), [cpa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpa.md), [consumption tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumption-tax.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), simplification ### Consumption Tax, VAT and the Black Market - **Episode:** [14: Neelis Kroes Is Hot](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/14-neelis-kroes-is-hot.md) - **Published:** 2008-01-27 - **Time:** 41:42–45:14 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/14-neelis-kroes-is-hot/chapter/consumption-tax-vat-and-the-black-market.md Mike Huckabee's proposal to replace the income tax with a consumption tax is debated, with references to the Value Added Tax (VAT) systems used in Europe. While a consumption tax might capture revenue from the "gray market" and drug dealers, it is criticized for potentially creating a large black market for services. 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