# Cisco on The No Agenda Show Cisco comes up in 40 chapters across 39 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from May 2008 to June 2026. - **Chapters:** 40 - **Episodes:** 39 - **Discussed:** May 2008 – June 2026 - **Related topics:** [Huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [Silicon Valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [Chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [China](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [Espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), [George Orwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-orwell.md), [Google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [Internet Of Things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [Ipv6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipv6.md), [Pacific Bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md) ## Chapters 1–20 of 40 ### Jevons Paradox and the High Cost of AI Tokens - **Episode:** [1875: Sonic Thump](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1875-sonic-thump.md) - **Published:** 2026-06-07 - **Time:** 1:20:04–1:26:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1875-sonic-thump/chapter/jevons-paradox-and-the-high-cost-of-ai-tokens.md Cisco's leadership highlights the massive costs of AI token usage, which can reach $900 million annually for large corporations. The discussion references "Jevons Paradox," an 1865 economic principle stating that increased efficiency in a resource often leads to higher total consumption, suggesting that cheaper AI tokens will only lead to more unsustainable spending. Keywords: [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [jevons paradox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jevons-paradox.md), ai tokens, [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) ### Scott Adams Career Origins, Pacific Bell and Cisco Investment - **Episode:** [1841: Scott Adams Redux](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux.md) - **Published:** 2026-02-08 - **Time:** 15:45–19:34 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/scott-adams-career-origins-pacific-bell-and-cisco-investment.md Scott Adams recounts his early days working at Pacific Bell in 1993, where he demonstrated the nascent World Wide Web to visitors. He reflects on his failure to invest in Cisco despite a direct recommendation from a top engineer, calling it his worst financial decision. Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [world wide web](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-wide-web.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) ### Modern Elevator Systems, Hearst Building, Cisco VoIP Reboots - **Episode:** [1781: Cluster 1](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1781-cluster-1.md) - **Published:** 2025-07-13 - **Time:** 14:33–17:32 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1781-cluster-1/chapter/modern-elevator-systems-hearst-building-cisco-voip-reboots.md A critique of modern "destination dispatch" elevator systems describes the lack of internal buttons and the resulting inefficiency in Manhattan hotels. An anecdote about the Hearst Building mentions the use of podium stewards to operate elevators. Additionally, a complaint is lodged against Cisco VoIP phones that rebooted nightly at 3:59 AM, illuminating hotel rooms with bright white screens. Keywords: elevators, [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [voip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voip.md), hearst building, [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md) ### US Embassy Kiev Document Destruction, Relocation to Lviv - **Episode:** [1426: Pre-Bunk](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1426-pre-bunk.md) - **Published:** 2022-02-17 - **Time:** 1:25:05–1:27:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1426-pre-bunk/chapter/us-embassy-kiev-document-destruction-relocation-to-lviv.md The U.S. State Department ordered the destruction of networking equipment and sensitive documents at the embassy in Kiev before relocating staff to Lviv. The hosts speculate that the destruction of servers and files may be a convenient way to eliminate records related to Joe and Hunter Biden's past activities in Ukraine. Keywords: [kiev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kiev.md), [lviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lviv.md), [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [embassy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/embassy.md), document destruction, cisco servers, [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md) ### Rahm Emanuel and the Computer Coding Retraining Proposal - **Episode:** [1293: Covidiots](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1293-covidiots.md) - **Published:** 2020-11-09 - **Time:** 17:54–20:12 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1293-covidiots/chapter/rahm-emanuel-and-the-computer-coding-retraining-proposal.md Rahm Emanuel proposed a massive federal initiative to retrain displaced retail workers as computer coders within six months. The hosts dismiss this as a "big lie," arguing that the market does not require millions of new coders and recalling Emanuel's previous ties to Cisco-funded charter schools in Chicago. They suggest the "learn to code" mantra is a recurring political trope with little practical utility. Keywords: [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), computer coding, retail jobs, [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), job training ### Hollywood and Big Tech Collaboration with Chinese Censorship - **Episode:** [1261: Infodemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1261-infodemic.md) - **Published:** 2020-07-19 - **Time:** 46:46–50:06 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1261-infodemic/chapter/hollywood-and-big-tech-collaboration-with-chinese-censorship.md The Department of Justice is criticizing American companies for "kowtowing" to the PRC, specifically citing Hollywood's self-censorship and Big Tech's cooperation. Apple is highlighted for removing the Quartz news app and VPNs from its Chinese App Store, as well as moving iCloud data to Chinese servers. Historically, Cisco is credited with helping the CCP build the "Great Firewall" for internet surveillance. Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), great firewall ### Noodle Gun Targets and Black Wine Professionals - **Episode:** [1261: Infodemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1261-infodemic.md) - **Published:** 2020-07-19 - **Time:** 3:06:17–3:10:30 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1261-infodemic/chapter/noodle-gun-targets-and-black-wine-professionals.md Ellen DeGeneres is facing a "noodle gun" attack from BuzzFeed over claims of a toxic work environment, which the hosts trace back to her hanging out with George W. Bush. Other targets include Ubisoft executives and Cisco employees fired for questioning BLM. Additionally, a New York Times article about "black wine professionals" is critiqued for finding racism in an encounter where a customer failed to recognize a shop owner. Keywords: [ellen degeneres](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ellen-degeneres.md), [buzzfeed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buzzfeed.md), [ubisoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ubisoft.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md) ### Thousand Talents Program, Theft of Petroleum Trade Secrets - **Episode:** [1258: Dummy Placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo.md) - **Published:** 2020-07-12 - **Time:** 1:55:09–1:58:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/thousand-talents-program-theft-of-petroleum-trade-secrets.md The FBI highlighted cases of economic espionage linked to China's "Thousand Talents" recruitment program, including scientist Hong Jintan, who stole $1 billion in trade secrets from an Oklahoma petroleum company. Another case involved the theft of naval technology used in submarines. Wray noted that Chinese state-owned enterprises often patent stolen American technology and then attempt to sell it back to the victimized companies. Keywords: thousand talents, [trade secrets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-secrets.md), [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), [petroleum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petroleum.md), naval technology, [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md) ### Remote Work Trends and Governor's Tracking Panel - **Episode:** [1228: Stunning](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning.md) - **Published:** 2020-03-29 - **Time:** 1:06:12–1:09:19 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/remote-work-trends-and-governor-s-tracking-panel.md The discussion shifts to the permanence of remote work and the success of platforms like Slack and Zoom. One host mentions a contact who is participating in a confidential governor-led panel focused on developing social distancing tracking technology, currently in the "ideation stage." Keywords: [slack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slack.md), [zoom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoom.md), cisco webex, [remote work](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-work.md), [governors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/governors.md), [contact tracing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contact-tracing.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md) ### Hong Kong Election Results and China's Response - **Episode:** [1196: Clinton Kildepstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1196-clinton-kildepstein.md) - **Published:** 2019-12-08 - **Time:** 1:54:45–1:58:47 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1196-clinton-kildepstein/chapter/hong-kong-election-results-and-china-s-response.md Pro-democracy candidates won 85% of the seats in Hong Kong's local elections, a result Beijing has largely ignored while reiterating its rule over the territory. China also condemned U.S. bills supporting Hong Kong, calling them an interference in domestic affairs. Keywords: [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), [carrie lam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carrie-lam.md), [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md) ### Scott Adams, Early Internet History and Cisco Investment - **Episode:** [1067: Double Header](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header.md) - **Published:** 2018-09-09 - **Time:** 2:24–6:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1067-double-header/chapter/scott-adams-early-internet-history-and-cisco-investment.md Scott Adams recalls his early career at Pacific Bell in 1993, where he demonstrated the World Wide Web to customers when only two websites existed. Adams describes a missed financial opportunity after a top engineer advised him to invest everything in Cisco. He reflects on the difficulty of holding stocks long-term even when the potential for growth is obvious. Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [world wide web](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-wide-web.md), [smithsonian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smithsonian.md) ### Cisco Router Lawful Intercept, CALEA Surveillance - **Episode:** [1053: Lefties are Right](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1053-lefties-are-right.md) - **Published:** 2018-07-24 - **Time:** 36:16–41:37 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1053-lefties-are-right/chapter/cisco-router-lawful-intercept-calea-surveillance.md Technical documentation for Cisco's "Lawful Intercept" function is examined, which allows law enforcement to perform electronic surveillance on specific targets. This process supports the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) and enables the capture of IP addresses, usernames, and VoIP data packets. The capability suggests how intelligence agencies might monitor network traffic at a granular level without physical taps. Keywords: [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), lawful intercept, [calea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calea.md), electronic surveillance, [voip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voip.md) ### Cisco Acquisition of July Systems - **Episode:** [1045: Pseudo-Addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1045-pseudo-addiction.md) - **Published:** 2018-06-28 - **Time:** 1:45:37–1:46:22 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1045-pseudo-addiction/chapter/cisco-acquisition-of-july-systems.md Cisco has announced the acquisition of July Systems, a startup that utilizes Wi-Fi infrastructure to track and analyze visitor behavior in physical spaces like malls and stadiums. This move scales up Cisco's existing partnership for location-based insights. Keywords: [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), july systems, wi-fi tracking, visitor behavior, stadiums, [malls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malls.md) ### Underage Sex Scandal in Santa Clara - **Episode:** [1043: Chuck Hole](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1043-chuck-hole.md) - **Published:** 2018-06-18 - **Time:** 1:29:55–1:34:19 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1043-chuck-hole/chapter/underage-sex-scandal-in-santa-clara.md Two women in Santa Clara, California, are arrested for allegedly having sexual relations with 15 and 16-year-old boys met through social media. The report mentions that the suspects described themselves as "sexually deviant." John Dvorak shares a personal anecdote from his youth involving a similar encounter, sparking a discussion on the perception of male victims in such cases. Keywords: talia cisco, tina parani, [santa clara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-clara.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), sexual deviancy ### Huawei and ZTE Security Warning, Cisco Competition, Chinese Spying - **Episode:** [1009: Best Codpiece](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1009-best-codpiece.md) - **Published:** 2018-02-19 - **Time:** 2:47:23–2:49:13 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1009-best-codpiece/chapter/huawei-and-zte-security-warning-cisco-competition-chinese-spying.md U.S. intelligence officials from the CIA, NSA, and FBI have warned Congress against using phones from Chinese companies Huawei and ZTE. Senator Tom Cotton expressed concerns that these companies are beholden to the Chinese government and could be used for espionage. The hosts suggest the warning is actually a protectionist move to help Cisco and Apple compete against Huawei's lower-priced telecommunications gear. Keywords: [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [zte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zte.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [tom cotton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-cotton.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md) ### Telecommunications Awards, Former Recipients - **Episode:** [996: Rats on a Plane](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/996-rats-on-a-plane.md) - **Published:** 2018-01-05 - **Time:** 2:00:17–2:04:16 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/996-rats-on-a-plane/chapter/telecommunications-awards-former-recipients.md John C. Dvorak discusses his former "Telecommunications Excellence Awards," which recognized inventors of foundational technologies like Frame Relay and the RJ45 connector. There is a proposal to reintroduce the awards if a major sponsor like Cisco could be secured. Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [telecommunications](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telecommunications.md), frame relay, rj45, [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md) ### FBI Ransomware Advice, Cisco Buys OpenDNS - **Episode:** [770: Mighty Men of Valor](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/770-mighty-men-of-valor.md) - **Published:** 2015-11-01 - **Time:** 2:29:52–2:31:45 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/770-mighty-men-of-valor/chapter/fbi-ransomware-advice-cisco-buys-opendns.md The FBI has reportedly advised companies to simply pay the ransom when hit with sophisticated ransomware like CryptoLocker, admitting they often cannot recover the data. In other tech news, Cisco acquired OpenDNS for $635 million in cash. The hosts express disappointment in the acquisition, fearing that the once-independent service will be compromised by Cisco's corporate interests. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [ransomware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ransomware.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), opendns, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md) ### China-US Tech Deals, Xi Jinping Visit - **Episode:** [760: VAWG](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/760-vawg.md) - **Published:** 2015-09-27 - **Time:** 1:46:27–1:47:46 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/760-vawg/chapter/china-us-tech-deals-xi-jinping-visit.md During President Xi Jinping's visit to the United States, several major tech deals were announced, including Microsoft making Baidu the default search engine in China. Cisco and LinkedIn also entered into joint ventures with Chinese partners to expand their market presence. The segment explores the tension between these business alliances and ongoing concerns about state-sponsored hacking. Keywords: [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [baidu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baidu.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [linkedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linkedin.md) ### Wilkes Brothers, New Mega Donors from Texas - **Episode:** [756: Shemita Cycle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/756-shemita-cycle.md) - **Published:** 2015-09-13 - **Time:** 1:21:20–1:24:08 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/756-shemita-cycle/chapter/wilkes-brothers-new-mega-donors-from-texas.md Brothers Ferris and Dan Wilkes of Cisco, Texas, have emerged as the top political donors of the 2016 cycle, giving $15 million to a Super PAC supporting Ted Cruz. The brothers made their fortune in the fracking industry and previously lived in a "goat shed." They join other mega-donors like the Koch brothers in promising record-breaking spending for the election. Keywords: ferris wilkes, dan wilkes, [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [fracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fracking.md), cisco texas ### Cisco Fog Computing, Congressional Recess Schedule - **Episode:** [744: Toxic Speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/744-toxic-speech.md) - **Published:** 2015-08-02 - **Time:** 16:08–19:45 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/744-toxic-speech/chapter/cisco-fog-computing-congressional-recess-schedule.md Cisco is promoting "Fog Computing" as a decentralized alternative to cloud computing for the Internet of Things (IoT), with an upcoming expo in Las Vegas. Meanwhile, the Einstein cybersecurity program has been approved as Congress prepares for its August recess. The House of Representatives is scheduled to leave on August 3rd, leading to a rush to pass pending legislation. 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