# Chertoff on The No Agenda Show

Chertoff comes up in 36 chapters across 33 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from January 2010 to May 2022.

- **Chapters:** 36
- **Episodes:** 33
- **Discussed:** January 2010 – May 2022
- **Related topics:** [Tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [Body Scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [Dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [Homeland Security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [Cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [Rapiscan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rapiscan.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [Airport Security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), [Black Hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 36

### Disinformation Governance Board and Nina Jankowicz Resignation

- **Episode:** [1453: Shoehorn Event](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event.md)
- **Published:** 2022-05-22
- **Time:** 2:38:04–2:46:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1453-shoehorn-event/chapter/disinformation-governance-board-and-nina-jankowicz-resignation.md

Nina Jankowicz resigned from the Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Governance Board after only three weeks following intense public criticism. NPR reports suggest the board failed due to a "lack of information" and "mischaracterization" by conservatives, while the hosts note that Michael Chertoff remains involved in the underlying program.

Keywords: [nina jankowicz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nina-jankowicz.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md)

### Canada Post Strike and New TSA 3D Scanners

- **Episode:** [1096: Algorithmic Amplification](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1096-algorithmic-amplification.md)
- **Published:** 2018-12-22
- **Time:** 2:21:35–2:23:03
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1096-algorithmic-amplification/chapter/canada-post-strike-and-new-tsa-3d-scanners.md

Canada Post has restored most services following rotating strikes, though backlogs remain in Vancouver. In aviation news, O'Hare International Airport is testing new 3D scanners that may eventually allow travelers to keep liquids in their carry-on bags. The hosts credit the Chertoff Group and L3 for the rollout of this expensive new technology.

Keywords: [canada post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada-post.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), 3d scanners, [o'hare airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/o-hare-airport.md), liquids, [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md)

### Alliance for Securing Democracy, Neocons and Democrats Unite

- **Episode:** [950: RACE: other](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/950-race-other.md)
- **Published:** 2017-07-28
- **Time:** 2:22:44–2:30:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/950-race-other/chapter/alliance-for-securing-democracy-neocons-and-democrats-unite.md

A new think tank called the Alliance for Securing Democracy has formed, bringing together prominent neoconservatives like Bill Kristol and Mike Chertoff with Obama-era Democrats. The group's mission is to counter Russian interference in democratic institutions. The hosts view this as a "regrouping" of the political establishment against the Trump administration's outsider approach.

Keywords: alliance for securing democracy, [bill kristol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-kristol.md), mike chertoff, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [neocons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neocons.md)

### ISIS Bomb-Making, New Airport Scanners

- **Episode:** [930: Off Script](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/930-off-script.md)
- **Published:** 2017-05-18
- **Time:** 1:43:25–1:47:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/930-off-script/chapter/isis-bomb-making-new-airport-scanners.md

U.S. officials claim ISIS developed explosives concealed in laptops at Mosul University, capable of evading current airport scanners. This development is expected to drive a global mandate for new scanning technology, benefiting companies like L3 Technologies and firms associated with Michael Chertoff. The "laptop ban" on flights is framed as a precursor to a massive industry-wide equipment upgrade.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), mosul university, [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), l3 technologies, [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md)

### Secure Fence Act of 2006, Border Wall and Physical Barriers

- **Episode:** [899: Loyalty Test](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/899-loyalty-test.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-29
- **Time:** 48:11–50:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/899-loyalty-test/chapter/secure-fence-act-of-2006-border-wall-and-physical-barriers.md

President Trump's executive order regarding the border wall is described as an extension of the Secure Fence Act of 2006, signed by George W. Bush. The act authorized 700 miles of physical barriers, but much of the funding was diverted to technology like drones and cameras. The hosts argue that physical barriers are more effective than high-tech surveillance, which can be easily bypassed.

Keywords: secure fence act, [george w bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [mexico border](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico-border.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

### Cyber Vulnerability, Chertoff Group Analysis

- **Episode:** [891: Bug Juice](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-01
- **Time:** 55:04–56:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice/chapter/cyber-vulnerability-chertoff-group-analysis.md

Paul Rosenzweig of the Chertoff Group discusses the pervasiveness of cyber vulnerability in Western society. He notes that the DNC hack was a solvable problem caused by an IT manager disregarding clear security signals, rather than an unstoppable state-sponsored attack.

Keywords: [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), paul rosenzweig, [cyber security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-security.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md)

### Michael Chertoff, George W. Bush and 9/11 Defense

- **Episode:** [767: Frontier Science](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/767-frontier-science.md)
- **Published:** 2015-10-22
- **Time:** 2:17:50–2:21:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/767-frontier-science/chapter/michael-chertoff-george-w-bush-and-9-11-defense.md

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff defended George W. Bush's record on national security during an interview with Wolf Blitzer. Chertoff listed the creation of tougher travel barriers, expanded intelligence capabilities, and the invasion of Afghanistan as key successes. The hosts criticize Chertoff's defense, characterizing the measures as an assault on civil liberties and a expansion of the surveillance state.

Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md)

### Movie Theater Security, AMC Active Shooter Videos

- **Episode:** [743: Misgendering](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/743-misgendering.md)
- **Published:** 2015-07-30
- **Time:** 45:17–50:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/743-misgendering/chapter/movie-theater-security-amc-active-shooter-videos.md

AMC Theaters has begun playing pre-movie security videos instructing audiences on emergency exits and active shooter protocols. The discussion critiques the "man on the street" interviews supporting these measures and suggests the security theater is a ploy to sell magnetometers. Statistical analysis suggests the actual risk of a theater shooting is roughly one in 60 million.

Keywords: [amc theaters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amc-theaters.md), [active shooter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/active-shooter.md), [security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security.md), [magnetometers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magnetometers.md), [chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff.md), [fear mongering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fear-mongering.md)

### Pentagon IT Consolidation and the Einstein Program

- **Episode:** [734: Peak Oil II](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/734-peak-oil-ii.md)
- **Published:** 2015-06-28
- **Time:** 1:46:43–1:50:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/734-peak-oil-ii/chapter/pentagon-it-consolidation-and-the-einstein-program.md

The Pentagon is moving toward a single service provider for its IT needs to cut redundancies, a move the hosts view as a major security risk. They also discuss the "Einstein 3" intrusion detection system, which monitors government traffic on private sector sites like AT&T, and criticize the program's effectiveness.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [it infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/it-infrastructure.md), [einstein 3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/einstein-3.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff.md)

### DHS Eagle 2 Program and Small Business Scams

- **Episode:** [734: Peak Oil II](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/734-peak-oil-ii.md)
- **Published:** 2015-06-28
- **Time:** 1:50:46–1:54:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/734-peak-oil-ii/chapter/dhs-eagle-2-program-and-small-business-scams.md

The Department of Homeland Security's "Eagle 2" program, an enterprise acquisition gateway for IT services, is scrutinized for its $22 billion budget. The hosts suggest that many "small businesses" receiving these task orders are front organizations for larger interests, describing the system as a massive government scam.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), eagle 2, [government contracts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-contracts.md), [chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md)

### Holocaust Museum Syrian Exhibit, Code Name Caesar

- **Episode:** [664: Boss Ass Look](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/664-boss-ass-look.md)
- **Published:** 2014-10-26
- **Time:** 43:35–48:27
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/664-boss-ass-look/chapter/holocaust-museum-syrian-exhibit-code-name-caesar.md

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum hosts an exhibit featuring images of killings in Syria, drawing parallels to the Holocaust. A witness code-named "Caesar" provided photographic evidence of atrocities, though technical issues resulted in the loss of GPS metadata. Critics argue the exhibit serves a political agenda to justify intervention against the Assad regime and its Russian allies.

Keywords: [holocaust museum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holocaust-museum.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), caesar, [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [elie wiesel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elie-wiesel.md)

### DHS Employee Exodus, Michael Chertoff's "Shadow DHS"

- **Episode:** [657: bio-hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking.md)
- **Published:** 2014-10-03
- **Time:** 2:05:32–2:09:20
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking/chapter/dhs-employee-exodus-michael-chertoff-s-shadow-dhs.md

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is reportedly facing a "leadership vacuum" as high-level employees flee the agency due to low morale and better pay in the private sector. Many former officials are joining the Chertoff Group, a consultancy led by former Secretary Michael Chertoff, which has been nicknamed "Shadow DHS." This mass exodus is said to be stalling key initiatives in cybersecurity and border security.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md)

### DHS Power Struggles, Potential Dismantling of the Agency

- **Episode:** [657: bio-hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking.md)
- **Published:** 2014-10-03
- **Time:** 2:31:35–2:34:36
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/657-bio-hacking/chapter/dhs-power-struggles-potential-dismantling-of-the-agency.md

Internal power struggles within the U.S. national security apparatus suggest a potential move to dismantle or significantly reorganize the Department of Homeland Security. FBI Director James Comey is seen as competing for influence, while the Secret Service and Coast Guard's placement under DHS is questioned. There is speculation that functions like airport security could eventually be outsourced to private contractors like the Chertoff Group.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md)

### Michael Hayden, Ground Truth and Human Penetration

- **Episode:** [647: Flood the Zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone.md)
- **Published:** 2014-09-06
- **Time:** 1:26:00–1:31:57
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/647-flood-the-zone/chapter/michael-hayden-ground-truth-and-human-penetration.md

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden discusses the need to "flood the zone" with intelligence to combat ISIS. He specifically mentions the need for "ground truth" to enable targeted operations, which the hosts link to the Ground Truth Project organization. A linguistic confusion arises over Hayden's use of the phrase "human penetration" in the context of intelligence gathering.

Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [ground truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ground-truth.md), jordanians, turks, [kurds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurds.md)

### Michael Chertoff and the Internet of Things Fear-Mongering

- **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos.md)
- **Published:** 2014-05-15
- **Time:** 55:17–1:00:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos/chapter/michael-chertoff-and-the-internet-of-things-fear-mongering.md

Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is criticized for using the "Internet of Things" to stoke fears about hackers compromising pacemakers, cars, and home appliances. The hosts argue that the primary purpose of connected devices is to deliver targeted advertising rather than to provide utility. They dismiss the security concerns as a "money bonanza" for cybersecurity consultants and government contractors.

Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md)

### Michael Chertoff, Internet of Things, and Smart Refrigerator Scams

- **Episode:** [617: Climate Chaos](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2.md)
- **Published:** 2014-05-15
- **Time:** 55:17–1:00:38
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/michael-chertoff-internet-of-things-and-smart-refrigerator-scams.md

Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is heard warning about the security risks of the "Internet of Things," including hacked pacemakers and thermostats. The hosts dismiss these fears as a marketing ploy to sell consulting services. They argue that "smart" appliances are actually designed to deliver advertising and track consumer behavior rather than provide utility.

Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

### Keith Alexander, Chertoff Group and Intelligence Consulting

- **Episode:** [557: Kalemia](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia.md)
- **Published:** 2013-10-17
- **Time:** 2:13:34–2:17:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/keith-alexander-chertoff-group-and-intelligence-consulting.md

General Keith Alexander is reportedly stepping down as head of the NSA, leading to speculation about his future in the private sector. The hosts predict he will likely join a firm like the Chertoff Group or start his own intelligence consulting operation. They characterize Alexander as a "geek" who successfully built a massive surveillance apparatus and now possesses valuable information on political figures.

Keywords: [keith alexander](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-alexander.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [consulting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consulting.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md)

### Michael Hayden Kill List, Chertoff Group Sales

- **Episode:** [554: Slave Bracelet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/554-slave-bracelet.md)
- **Published:** 2013-10-06
- **Time:** 2:26:47–2:29:32
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/554-slave-bracelet/chapter/michael-hayden-kill-list-chertoff-group-sales.md

Former NSA Director Michael Hayden and Congressman Mike Rogers are reported to have joked about putting Edward Snowden on a kill list. The hosts discuss Hayden's current role at the Chertoff Group, where he promotes security services and scanners.

Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [kill list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kill-list.md), torture program, [scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scanners.md)

### Chertoff Group, Media Bookings, Rubicon Comparison

- **Episode:** [507: Airplane Apocalypse](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/507-airplane-apocalypse.md)
- **Published:** 2013-04-25
- **Time:** 2:26:30–2:32:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/507-airplane-apocalypse/chapter/chertoff-group-media-bookings-rubicon-comparison.md

The Chertoff Group's heavy presence on Sunday news shows is highlighted as a coordinated PR effort. The hosts compare the group's influence and involvement in multi-billion dollar mergers to the fictional "Atlas McDowell" company from the series Rubicon.

Keywords: [chertoff group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chertoff-group.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [rubicon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rubicon.md), [pr agency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pr-agency.md), m&a

### Michael Chertoff, Behavioral Detection and Radicalization

- **Episode:** [429: Gross, Surprising & Scary](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/429-gross-surprising-scary.md)
- **Published:** 2012-07-27
- **Time:** 19:04–22:02
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/429-gross-surprising-scary/chapter/michael-chertoff-behavioral-detection-and-radicalization.md

Former Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff discusses the need for better detection of early warning signs of derangement or terrorism. He references the Fort Hood shooting and Major Nidal Hassan as examples of a "failure of imagination" in identifying radicalization. The hosts suggest Chertoff is using these tragedies to promote advanced surveillance technology and brain scanners.

Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [fort hood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-hood.md), [nidal hassan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nidal-hassan.md), [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md)

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