# Celine Gounder on The No Agenda Show Celine Gounder comes up in 19 chapters across 18 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from August 2023 to August 2025. - **Chapters:** 19 - **Episodes:** 18 - **Discussed:** August 2023 – August 2025 - **Related topics:** [Cbs News](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [Cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [Fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [Lab Leak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-leak.md), [Pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [Raw Milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [Vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [Wastewater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wastewater.md), [Wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [Autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md) ## Chapters 1–19 of 19 ### Ozempic Price War, Side Effects, Dr. Celine Gounder - **Episode:** [1792: Meloni in the Middle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle.md) - **Published:** 2025-08-21 - **Time:** 2:52:49–2:55:16 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/ozempic-price-war-side-effects-dr-celine-gounder.md Novo Nordisk is cutting the price of Ozempic to compete with Eli Lilly's weight loss drugs, Monjaro and ZepBound. Dr. Celine Gounder discusses the "price war" and the effectiveness of these medications. A new side effect dubbed "Ozempic vulva," involving loose skin in the vaginal area, is highlighted as a consequence of rapid weight loss. Keywords: [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), wigovi, [eli lilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eli-lilly.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [weight loss drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weight-loss-drugs.md) ### Colon Cancer Rates, Screening Age and Medical Analysis - **Episode:** [1791: Bolt Muncher](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1791-bolt-muncher.md) - **Published:** 2025-08-17 - **Time:** 2:00:39–2:05:27 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1791-bolt-muncher/chapter/colon-cancer-rates-screening-age-and-medical-analysis.md A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) reported a sharp increase in colon cancer cases among adults under 54. Dr. Celine Gounder explained that the US Preventive Services Task Force lowered the screening age to 45 in 2021 in response to this trend. The hosts expressed skepticism, questioning if the increase is due to expanded testing or other environmental factors that medical authorities are hesitant to address. Keywords: [colon cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colon-cancer.md), [jama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jama.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/screening.md), [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md) ### Media Response to Vaccine Funding Cuts - **Episode:** [1788: chatJCD](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1788-chatjcd.md) - **Published:** 2025-08-07 - **Time:** 26:54–33:02 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1788-chatjcd/chapter/media-response-to-vaccine-funding-cuts.md Major news networks reported on the $500 million funding cut, highlighting that the targeted projects were led by Pfizer and Moderna. Critics question why profitable pharmaceutical giants require taxpayer subsidies for research. Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on CBS to defend mRNA technology as a vital tool for rapid pandemic response. Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [pharmaceutical profits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-profits.md) ### Dr. Celine Gounder, ACIP Conflict of Interest Denial - **Episode:** [1772: Op Day](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1772-op-day.md) - **Published:** 2025-06-12 - **Time:** 1:07:44–1:14:24 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1772-op-day/chapter/dr-celine-gounder-acip-conflict-of-interest-denial.md Dr. Celine Gounder defended the dismissed ACIP members on CBS, dismissing reports of conflicts of interest as mere "clerical errors" regarding dates. However, a 2009 Inspector General report found that 97% of financial disclosure forms had omissions and 64% of members had potential conflicts that the CDC failed to resolve. The data suggests a systemic failure in ethics training and financial transparency within the committee. Keywords: [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), acip, [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md), [financial disclosure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-disclosure.md) ### FDA Phase-Out of Fluoride Supplements for Children - **Episode:** [1764: Rage Quit](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1764-rage-quit.md) - **Published:** 2025-05-15 - **Time:** 3:05:46–3:11:11 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1764-rage-quit/chapter/fda-phase-out-of-fluoride-supplements-for-children.md FDA Commissioner Marty Makary announced plans to phase out fluoride tablets and drops for children. The move aligns with HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s efforts to remove fluoride from public drinking water. Medical contributors expressed concern that this could lead to a surge in cavities among low-income populations, while proponents of the ban argue that topical applications and better nutrition are safer alternatives. Keywords: [fluoride](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fluoride.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), dental health ### Shingrix Vaccine, CBS News and Pharmaceutical Advertorials - **Episode:** [1762: Stick Fight](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1762-stick-fight.md) - **Published:** 2025-05-08 - **Time:** 52:29–1:05:09 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1762-stick-fight/chapter/shingrix-vaccine-cbs-news-and-pharmaceutical-advertorials.md CBS News is criticized for airing a segment on the shingles vaccine that functioned as a blatant advertisement for the brand Shingrix. Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on the program to discuss research linking the vaccine to reduced risks of heart disease and dementia. The hosts highlight the scripted nature of the interview and the ethical concerns of running pharmaceutical ads immediately adjacent to "news" segments. Keywords: [shingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shingles.md), shingrix, [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [gail king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gail-king.md) ### COVID.gov and the Lab Leak Transformation - **Episode:** [1757: Word Veto](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1757-word-veto.md) - **Published:** 2025-04-20 - **Time:** 2:36:03–2:42:03 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1757-word-veto/chapter/covid-gov-and-the-lab-leak-transformation.md The Trump administration has transformed the official COVID.gov website to focus on the "lab leak" theory of the virus's origin in Wuhan, China. CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder criticizes the move, arguing that the strongest evidence still points to a "natural spillover" at a wet market. The hosts mock the reintroduction of the "raccoon dog" theory and argue that public trust in government health guidance has already been permanently damaged. Keywords: covid.gov, [lab leak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-leak.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md) ### Celine Gounder, Autism Causes, Scientific Debunking - **Episode:** [1756: AG Barbie](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie.md) - **Published:** 2025-04-17 - **Time:** 57:26–1:02:14 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1756-ag-barbie/chapter/celine-gounder-autism-causes-scientific-debunking.md Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on CBS to discuss the complexity of identifying autism causes, comparing the research to the decades-long effort to link smoking to lung cancer. She reiterated that the link between vaccines and autism has been "debunked," a term the hosts find suspicious. The segment explores potential environmental triggers being studied, including ultrasounds, obesity, and air pollution. Keywords: [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [tobacco industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco-industry.md), environmental factors ### Dr. Celine Gounder, Bird Flu Pandemic Fears, Hybrid Strains - **Episode:** [1746: Bedtime Hygiene](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1746-bedtime-hygiene.md) - **Published:** 2025-03-13 - **Time:** 1:16:52–1:20:31 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1746-bedtime-hygiene/chapter/dr-celine-gounder-bird-flu-pandemic-fears-hybrid-strains.md CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder warns of the potential for a bird flu pandemic if the virus jumps from animals to humans. She explains the risk of "hybrid strains" forming if a person is infected with both human and avian flu simultaneously. The USDA has recently granted conditional approval for a bird flu vaccine for chickens produced by Zoetis. Keywords: [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [pandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic.md), zoetis, frankenstein flu ### Measles Outbreak, Immune Amnesia, Vaccine Marketing - **Episode:** [1745: Old Crone](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1745-old-crone.md) - **Published:** 2025-03-09 - **Time:** 2:41:26–2:45:30 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1745-old-crone/chapter/measles-outbreak-immune-amnesia-vaccine-marketing.md CBS News reports on a measles outbreak and introduces the concept of "immune amnesia," claiming the virus can erase the immune system's memory of other infections. The hosts criticize the report as "fear-mongering" and "bullcrap," questioning the validity of the medical claims and the jar-and-marble animation used to explain the theory. Keywords: [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [immune amnesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immune-amnesia.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md) ### CIA Lab Leak Theory, Wastewater Monitoring, Celine Gounder - **Episode:** [1734: MEGA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1734-mega.md) - **Published:** 2025-01-30 - **Time:** 2:46:00–2:52:10 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1734-mega/chapter/cia-lab-leak-theory-wastewater-monitoring-celine-gounder.md The CIA has shifted its stance toward the COVID-19 lab leak theory, though it maintains "low confidence" in the assessment. Dr. Celine Gounder argued on CBS that the scientific community is more focused on preventing future pandemics through wastewater monitoring rather than seeking "retribution" for the past. The segment dismisses Gounder as a "stooge" for downplaying accountability for the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [lab leak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-leak.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [wastewater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wastewater.md) ### H5N1 Strains, Backyard Chickens and Raw Milk Warnings - **Episode:** [1723: Quademic](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic.md) - **Published:** 2024-12-22 - **Time:** 25:54–29:44 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/h5n1-strains-backyard-chickens-and-raw-milk-warnings.md Dr. Celine Gounder discusses different strains of H5N1, claiming the human case in Louisiana differs from the strain found in dairy cattle. The hosts mock the suggestion that backyard chicken owners should call animal control for dead birds. They argue the current media focus on the dangers of raw milk is a coordinated effort to discourage independent food sources. Keywords: [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [backyard chickens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backyard-chickens.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md) ### CBS News Wastewater Testing and Bird Flu Symptoms - **Episode:** [1660: Doom Goblin](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin.md) - **Published:** 2024-05-16 - **Time:** 53:01–59:30 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin/chapter/cbs-news-wastewater-testing-and-bird-flu-symptoms.md CBS News reports on the use of wastewater testing to detect bird flu, a method previously used during the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Celine Gounder discusses monitoring dairy workers for symptoms like conjunctivitis (pink eye), while the hosts question the validity of using PCR tests for such diagnoses. Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [wastewater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wastewater.md), [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [pink eye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pink-eye.md), [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md) ### Dr. Celine Gounder and the Raw Sewage Comparison - **Episode:** [1660: Doom Goblin](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin.md) - **Published:** 2024-05-16 - **Time:** 59:31–1:06:21 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1660-doom-goblin/chapter/dr-celine-gounder-and-the-raw-sewage-comparison.md During a CBS segment, Dr. Celine Gounder compares raw milk to "raw sewage" due to potential fecal contamination. The hosts strongly dispute this characterization and correct the historical record regarding Louis Pasteur, noting he originally developed pasteurization for wine, not milk. Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), raw sewage, [louis pasteur](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louis-pasteur.md) ### Public Health Response, Frankenstein Flu Concerns - **Episode:** [1655: Illegal Chants](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants.md) - **Published:** 2024-04-28 - **Time:** 1:24:54–1:28:55 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/public-health-response-frankenstein-flu-concerns.md Medical experts like Dr. Celine Gounder emphasize that viral fragments in milk do not indicate live infectious virus. However, public health officials are monitoring for potential transmission to pigs, which are considered "mixing vessels" that could lead to the mutation of a more dangerous "Frankenstein" flu strain capable of human-to-human spread. Keywords: [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), kff health news, [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [pigs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pigs.md), [zoonotic transmission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoonotic-transmission.md) ### Childhood Obesity Guidelines and Medicaid Funding - **Episode:** [1616: Buying Quiet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1616-buying-quiet.md) - **Published:** 2023-12-17 - **Time:** 1:43:29–1:48:05 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1616-buying-quiet/chapter/childhood-obesity-guidelines-and-medicaid-funding.md The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force are debating aggressive interventions for childhood obesity, including counseling for children as young as six. There is a significant push to have weight loss drugs and surgeries covered by Medicaid for low-income and minority communities. Keywords: [childhood obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/childhood-obesity.md), [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), weight loss surgery, aap ### COVID-19 Vaccine Insurance Glitches, Private Sector Transition - **Episode:** [1595: Bin Police](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1595-bin-police.md) - **Published:** 2023-10-07 - **Time:** 1:42:01–1:45:39 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1595-bin-police/chapter/covid-19-vaccine-insurance-glitches-private-sector-transition.md The transition of COVID-19 vaccine distribution from the federal government to the private sector has resulted in widespread insurance billing "glitches." While officials like Dr. Scott Gottlieb and Dr. Celine Gounder maintain that vaccines should remain free for the insured, many patients are facing denials at pharmacies. Authorities expect these administrative issues to be resolved by mid-October. Keywords: [covid-19 vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19-vaccine.md), [scott gottlieb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-gottlieb.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md) ### COVID-19 Boosters, Variant Eris Messaging - **Episode:** [1581: Quippy](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1581-quippy.md) - **Published:** 2023-08-13 - **Time:** 1:15:16–1:18:42 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1581-quippy/chapter/covid-19-boosters-variant-eris-messaging.md Dr. Celine Gounder discusses the new "Eris" variant and the upcoming monovalent booster shots on CBS News. The messaging has shifted to state that vaccination is "up to you" for young, healthy individuals, though it is still recommended for the elderly and immunocompromised. The hosts characterize the segment as a commercial for pharmaceutical products, noting the "stay tuned" phrasing used by the doctor. Keywords: [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), eris variant, monovalent booster, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md) ### CBS Mornings, Dr. Celine Gounder and Fall Boosters - **Episode:** [1580: Coup Map](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1580-coup-map.md) - **Published:** 2023-08-10 - **Time:** 56:55–1:00:49 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1580-coup-map/chapter/cbs-mornings-dr-celine-gounder-and-fall-boosters.md Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on CBS Mornings to discuss the upcoming fall COVID-19 booster shots. While the CDC recommends the booster for everyone over six months old, Gounder notes it is most critical for the elderly, pregnant women, and the immunosuppressed. The segment highlights the shift toward treating COVID-19 vaccinations similarly to annual flu shots for healthy, younger populations. Keywords: [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [cbs mornings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-mornings.md), covid booster, [flu shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), immunosuppression --- This is the markdown version of a page on The No Agenda Show for AI agents. 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