# Baucus Bill on The No Agenda Show

Baucus Bill comes up in 4 chapters across 3 episodes of The No Agenda Show, in October 2009.

- **Chapters:** 4
- **Episodes:** 3
- **Discussed:** October 2009 – October 2009
- **Related topics:** [Irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [Balloon Boy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/balloon-boy.md), [Barack Obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [Congressional Budget Office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-budget-office.md), [Excise Tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/excise-tax.md), [Fundraisers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraisers.md), [Goldman Sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [Health Care Reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care-reform.md), [Kathleen Sebelius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kathleen-sebelius.md), [Max Baucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-baucus.md)

## Chapters 1–4 of 4

### Media Distractions, Balloon Boy, and Goldman Sachs Government Influence

- **Episode:** [141: Who Is John Brek?](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/141-who-is-john-brek.md)
- **Published:** 2009-10-22
- **Time:** 9:49–12:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/141-who-is-john-brek/chapter/media-distractions-balloon-boy-and-goldman-sachs-government-influence.md

The hosts claim major news events like the "Balloon Boy" incident are media distractions used to hide secret negotiations regarding the Baucus Bill. They assert that Goldman Sachs has effectively taken over the U.S. government, citing Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's background. Observations are made regarding President Obama's frequent travel for fundraisers rather than governing in Washington D.C.

Keywords: [balloon boy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/balloon-boy.md), [baucus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baucus-bill.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [tim geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-geithner.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [fundraisers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraisers.md)

### Baucus Bill Analysis and the Health Care Excise Tax

- **Episode:** [141: Who Is John Brek?](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/141-who-is-john-brek.md)
- **Published:** 2009-10-22
- **Time:** 1:40:06–1:47:23
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/141-who-is-john-brek/chapter/baucus-bill-analysis-and-the-health-care-excise-tax.md

The show concludes with an analysis of Section 2215 of the Baucus health care bill. The hosts identify a "loophole" where individuals could theoretically pay a $1,700 IRS excise tax instead of buying insurance, then purchase a policy only after becoming ill due to the ban on pre-existing condition exclusions. They also warn that "high-risk pools" may eventually target gun owners and pilots.

Keywords: [baucus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baucus-bill.md), [kathleen sebelius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kathleen-sebelius.md), [excise tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/excise-tax.md), [pre-existing conditions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-existing-conditions.md), high-risk pools, [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md)

### Baucus Health Care Bill and Shell Bill Tactics

- **Episode:** [137: Miley Cyrus Meets Hannah Montana](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana.md)
- **Published:** 2009-10-08
- **Time:** 22:21–26:41
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/baucus-health-care-bill-and-shell-bill-tactics.md

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report on the Baucus health care bill, estimating it will cost $829 billion over ten years while reducing the deficit. The hosts discuss a religious exemption for Christian Scientists and the legislative tactic of "shell bills," where health care language is inserted into unrelated bills like H.R. 1586.

Keywords: [baucus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baucus-bill.md), [congressional budget office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-budget-office.md), [health care reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care-reform.md), christian science, shell bill, [tarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tarp.md)

### Baucus Bill, IRS Healthcare Tax Penalties

- **Episode:** [135: Google Wave Invite](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/135-google-wave-invite.md)
- **Published:** 2009-10-01
- **Time:** 1:05:03–1:05:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/135-google-wave-invite/chapter/baucus-bill-irs-healthcare-tax-penalties.md

The Baucus healthcare bill is identified as a tax because the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is designated to enforce penalties for those without insurance. Failure to pay the mandate could result in fines up to $25,000 or a year in prison, contradicting presidential promises that the plan would not constitute a tax increase.

Keywords: [max baucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-baucus.md), [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [senate finance committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-finance-committee.md), healthcare tax, [baucus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baucus-bill.md)

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