# Air Safety on The No Agenda Show

Air Safety comes up in 25 chapters across 25 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from April 2008 to October 2026.

- **Chapters:** 25
- **Episodes:** 25
- **Discussed:** April 2008 – October 2026
- **Related topics:** [Aviation Safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [Faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [Air France](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), [Air Traffic Control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), [Airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [Boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [Air France 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [Boeing 737](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-737.md), [Boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [Boeing 777](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-777.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 25

### Boeing 737 Max 8 Rudder Issues and Historical Precedents

- **Episode:** [1909: Immune Amnesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1909-immune-amnesia.md)
- **Published:** 2026-10-04
- **Time:** 32:42–37:30
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1909-immune-amnesia/chapter/boeing-737-max-8-rudder-issues-and-historical-precedents.md

The technical failure of the aircraft's rudder is examined, drawing parallels to the 1994 US Air Flight 427 "rudder hardover" crash. Despite the vertical fin saving the Fly Dubai aircraft from total disintegration, questions remain about hydraulic fluid loss and the structural integrity of the Boeing 737 Max 8.

Keywords: [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), rudder, us air flight 427, [hydraulics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydraulics.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), max 8

### Remote Air Traffic Control, AI Implementation in Aviation

- **Episode:** [1895: XY You're Out](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1895-xy-you-re-out.md)
- **Published:** 2026-08-16
- **Time:** 1:51:09–1:57:54
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1895-xy-you-re-out/chapter/remote-air-traffic-control-ai-implementation-in-aviation.md

Nav Canada is implementing remote air traffic control systems, moving controllers from local towers to centralized digital hubs in cities like Kingston. While officials claim AI will help the system "learn" and improve safety, unions and travelers express concern over the loss of the "human factor" and potential technical failures. The hosts warn that consolidating these services creates a single point of failure if communication lines are severed.

Keywords: nav canada, [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), ottawa airport, [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### FAA Diversity Hiring, Air Traffic Controller Staffing Shortages

- **Episode:** [1735: Old Bag](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1735-old-bag.md)
- **Published:** 2025-02-02
- **Time:** 8:52–11:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1735-old-bag/chapter/faa-diversity-hiring-air-traffic-controller-staffing-shortages.md

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) faces scrutiny over its diversity hiring guidelines, which include provisions for various disabilities. Critics argue that under Secretary Pete Buttigieg, the agency is prioritizing DEI over technical qualification. However, the primary danger to aviation safety is identified as a severe staffing shortage of air traffic controllers rather than the hiring criteria itself.

Keywords: [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [pete buttigieg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-buttigieg.md), [air traffic controllers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-controllers.md), [dei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dei.md), [staffing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/staffing.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### Airline Passenger Weighing Surveys, Finnair Safety Protocols

- **Episode:** [1633: Noise Machine](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1633-noise-machine.md)
- **Published:** 2024-02-11
- **Time:** 1:48:43–1:51:01
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1633-noise-machine/chapter/airline-passenger-weighing-surveys-finnair-safety-protocols.md

Finnair and Air New Zealand have implemented voluntary programs to weigh passengers and their carry-on luggage. The airlines state the data is essential for calculating aircraft weight and balance to ensure flight safety, as average population weights change over time.

Keywords: finnair, air new zealand, aircraft balance, [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), passenger weight

### Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 Door Plug Blowout

- **Episode:** [1623: Deputary](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1623-deputary.md)
- **Published:** 2024-01-07
- **Time:** 1:51–9:41
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1623-deputary/chapter/alaska-airlines-flight-1282-door-plug-blowout.md

Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 experienced a mid-air depressurization when a fuselage section blew out at 16,000 feet shortly after departing Portland, Oregon. While media reports initially described a window failure, the incident involved a door plug used to seal an unused emergency exit. The FAA subsequently ordered a temporary grounding of 171 Boeing 737 MAX 9 aircraft for safety inspections.

Keywords: [alaska airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska-airlines.md), boeing 737 max 9, door plug, [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), [air safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-safety.md)

### FAA Staffing Crisis, Air Traffic Controller Fatigue

- **Episode:** [1613: Fossil Fools](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1613-fossil-fools.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-03
- **Time:** 55:09–57:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1613-fossil-fools/chapter/faa-staffing-crisis-air-traffic-controller-fatigue.md

The New York Times reports on a critical shortage of air traffic controllers, with allegations of staff falling asleep or working under the influence. The hosts attribute the crisis to retirement waves and controversial hiring practices focused on diversity over technical capability.

Keywords: [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), staffing shortage, [safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safety.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [diversity hiring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diversity-hiring.md)

### Delta Flight Turbulence and Climate Change Descent Profiles

- **Episode:** [1586: Escaped Mutant](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1586-escaped-mutant.md)
- **Published:** 2023-08-31
- **Time:** 20:00–22:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1586-escaped-mutant/chapter/delta-flight-turbulence-and-climate-change-descent-profiles.md

Severe turbulence on a Delta Air Lines flight from Milan to Atlanta resulted in 11 hospitalizations, leading to a discussion on new aviation descent profiles. The hosts argue that "climate change regulated" descents force planes to glide through turbulent areas to save fuel rather than navigating around them. Media reports are critiqued for attributing a 55% increase in North Atlantic clear air turbulence to global warming.

Keywords: [delta air lines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-air-lines.md), [atlanta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlanta.md), [milan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milan.md), [turbulence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turbulence.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### Indonesia Plane Crash, Boeing 737 Reporting, Show Outro

- **Episode:** [1311: Woke Kindergarten](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1311-woke-kindergarten.md)
- **Published:** 2021-01-10
- **Time:** 3:24:10–3:27:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1311-woke-kindergarten/chapter/indonesia-plane-crash-boeing-737-reporting-show-outro.md

Reporting on a Sriwijaya Air crash in Indonesia is criticized for misleadingly linking a 26-year-old Boeing 737-500 to the newer 737 MAX model. The hosts argue this is a "planted story" to damage Boeing's reputation. The episode concludes with a final "Value for Value" appeal and a preview of upcoming coverage of the second impeachment.

Keywords: [indonesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indonesia.md), [boeing 737](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-737.md), sriwijaya air, [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

### Aircraft Air Filtration Systems and Pressurization Mechanics

- **Episode:** [1285: Davos Douche](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1285-davos-douche.md)
- **Published:** 2020-10-15
- **Time:** 32:35–37:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1285-davos-douche/chapter/aircraft-air-filtration-systems-and-pressurization-mechanics.md

Research suggests that the risk of COVID-19 transmission on airplanes is low due to HEPA filters and rapid air cycling every 2-3 minutes. The mechanics of aircraft pressurization involve fresh air entering from the front and being managed by outflow valves in the tail cone. Despite public skepticism, the airflow in a cabin creates the equivalent of seven feet of separation between passengers.

Keywords: hepa filters, aircraft pressurization, [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), air travel safety, cabin air

### Boeing 737 MAX 8 Investigation and FBI Involvement

- **Episode:** [1122: Cyclogenesis](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1122-cyclogenesis.md)
- **Published:** 2019-03-21
- **Time:** 14:10–19:37
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1122-cyclogenesis/chapter/boeing-737-max-8-investigation-and-fbi-involvement.md

The FBI has joined a criminal investigation into the certification process of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 following two fatal crashes. Reports indicate that a sensor malfunction triggered the MCAS anti-stall system, repeatedly pushing the aircraft's nose down. In the Lion Air flight preceding the crash, a jump-seat pilot reportedly identified the issue and instructed the crew on how to stabilize the plane by cutting the trim stabs.

Keywords: [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), 737 max 8, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [lion air](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lion-air.md), [mcas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcas.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### Boeing 737 MAX, Lion Air Crash and MCAS System

- **Episode:** [1090: Truth Tell](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1090-truth-tell.md)
- **Published:** 2018-11-30
- **Time:** 2:27:49–2:32:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1090-truth-tell/chapter/boeing-737-max-lion-air-crash-and-mcas-system.md

A preliminary report on the Lion Air Flight 610 crash identifies the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) as a primary factor. The automated anti-stall system repeatedly forced the plane's nose down based on faulty sensor data, and pilots were reportedly not trained on how to disable it. The hosts discuss Boeing's decision to outsource avionics and the potential for massive legal liability.

Keywords: [boeing 737 max](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-737-max.md), [lion air](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lion-air.md), [mcas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcas.md), [flight safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-safety.md), [outsourcing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outsourcing.md)

### Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance, Boeing Safety

- **Episode:** [598: Experiential Evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/598-experiential-evidence.md)
- **Published:** 2014-03-09
- **Time:** 10:17–15:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/598-experiential-evidence/chapter/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-disappearance-boeing-safety.md

The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is analyzed, noting the lack of data compared to previous aviation accidents like Air France. The discussion highlights recent issues with Boeing aircraft, including hairline fractures in the 787 Dreamliner. Technical aspects of the ADS-B system and radar signatures are questioned.

Keywords: [malaysia airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysia-airlines.md), [mh370](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh370.md), [boeing 777](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-777.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [radar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radar.md), [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md)

### Potential Damascus Travel Logistics and Security Concerns

- **Episode:** [418: Oryx Burgers!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/418-oryx-burgers.md)
- **Published:** 2012-06-17
- **Time:** 40:03–46:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/418-oryx-burgers/chapter/potential-damascus-travel-logistics-and-security-concerns.md

The hosts discuss the logistics of traveling to Damascus or Beirut for a television appearance. While concerns about safety and kidnapping are raised, they explore flight options via Air France and KLM through European hubs like Paris and Amsterdam.

Keywords: [beirut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beirut.md), [damascus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damascus.md), [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), travel safety

### Next-Gen Aviation Systems and Pilot Error Narratives

- **Episode:** [345: Hornbag](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag.md)
- **Published:** 2011-10-06
- **Time:** 1:16:11–1:20:52
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/next-gen-aviation-systems-and-pilot-error-narratives.md

The hosts analyze recent aviation news, including new reports on the Air France crash, as a coordinated effort to discredit human pilots in favor of automated systems. They argue that the "Next-Gen" air traffic control system is designed to integrate drones into civilian airspace. A representative from the UAV industry is heard discussing the "peaceful coexistence" of manned and unmanned aircraft.

Keywords: [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), next-gen, [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), aopa

### Reno Air Race Crash and Media Sensationalism

- **Episode:** [340: Tart Cherry Juice!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/340-tart-cherry-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2011-09-18
- **Time:** 1:52:26–1:57:29
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/340-tart-cherry-juice/chapter/reno-air-race-crash-and-media-sensationalism.md

A fatal crash at the Reno Air Races involving a 74-year-old pilot resulted in nine deaths and over 50 injuries. Major news networks were criticized for over-covering the event with "gore" and body-part descriptions to fill the weekend news cycle. Despite the tragedy, the pilot was described as highly skilled, and the incident sparked a debate on the safety of air racing and the "wimpification" of media outlets calling for bans on the sport.

Keywords: reno air race, [plane crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plane-crash.md), [media coverage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-coverage.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### Air France Flight 447 and Airbus Fly-By-Wire Criticism

- **Episode:** [326: Carbon Cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/326-carbon-cops.md)
- **Published:** 2011-07-31
- **Time:** 1:07:31–1:10:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/326-carbon-cops/chapter/air-france-flight-447-and-airbus-fly-by-wire-criticism.md

The final report on the crash of Air France Flight 447 is criticized for blaming "pilot error" rather than technical failures in the Airbus fly-by-wire system. The discussion highlights the failure of pitot tubes and the confusing nature of computer-controlled flight systems. Concerns are also raised about the quality of Chinese-manufactured aircraft and industrial parts.

Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [fly-by-wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fly-by-wire.md), [pilot error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-error.md), [pitot tubes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pitot-tubes.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

### Boeing 737 Whistleblowers, Al Jazeera Investigation

- **Episode:** [261: AQ-USA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/261-aq-usa.md)
- **Published:** 2010-12-16
- **Time:** 2:09:38–2:13:33
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/261-aq-usa/chapter/boeing-737-whistleblowers-al-jazeera-investigation.md

An Al Jazeera special titled "On a Wing and a Prayer" features Boeing whistleblowers claiming the 737 aircraft is structurally unsound. The hosts discuss the potential for this to be a "fear meme" designed to push travelers toward rail. One host plans to document a trip on Amtrak to Sacramento to demonstrate the inefficiency and high cost of train travel compared to driving.

Keywords: [boeing 737](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-737.md), [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [whistleblowers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblowers.md), [air safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-safety.md), [amtrak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amtrak.md)

### Air Traffic Controller Inexperience, Washington Airspace Risks

- **Episode:** [215: Drunk in America](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/215-drunk-in-america.md)
- **Published:** 2010-07-08
- **Time:** 1:22:26–1:24:46
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/215-drunk-in-america/chapter/air-traffic-controller-inexperience-washington-airspace-risks.md

A PR-driven news meme suggests that near-collisions are rising in Washington D.C. airspace due to an influx of inexperienced air traffic controllers. Reports indicate that 49 out of 177 controllers in the region are not yet fully certified. The segment questions whether this narrative is being pushed by agencies like Hill & Knowlton to justify further automation or budget increases.

Keywords: [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [flight safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-safety.md), [hill and knowlton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hill-and-knowlton.md)

### Aviation Safety Propaganda, Hudson River Crash, NTSB Reports

- **Episode:** [195: Kidnapping The Truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/195-kidnapping-the-truth.md)
- **Published:** 2010-04-29
- **Time:** 29:27–35:07
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/195-kidnapping-the-truth/chapter/aviation-safety-propaganda-hudson-river-crash-ntsb-reports.md

The hosts critique recent media coverage of aviation accidents, specifically a Wall Street Journal report by Andy Pasztor regarding a mid-air collision over the Hudson River. They argue the media is unfairly blaming air traffic controllers for personal phone calls to create a negative public perception of flying.

Keywords: [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [hudson river](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hudson-river.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), andy pasztor, [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md)

### Aviation Safety, Toxic Engine Fumes

- **Episode:** [185: VATBS vs AQAP](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/185-vatbs-vs-aqap.md)
- **Published:** 2010-03-25
- **Time:** 1:25:02–1:28:05
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/185-vatbs-vs-aqap/chapter/aviation-safety-toxic-engine-fumes.md

A growing number of reports indicate that toxic oil fumes are entering the cabins and cockpits of commercial aircraft through the "bleed air" systems. These incidents, often involving Rolls Royce engines and Mobil jet oil, have caused pilots to become dizzy and ill during flights. The aviation industry is accused of covering up the problem to avoid the high costs of redesigning engine seal rings.

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