# Air France 447 on The No Agenda Show Air France 447 comes up in 11 chapters across 10 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from June 2009 to December 2011. - **Chapters:** 11 - **Episodes:** 10 - **Discussed:** June 2009 – December 2011 - **Related topics:** [Airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [Aviation Safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [Boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [Pitot Tubes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pitot-tubes.md), [Brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [Pilot Error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-error.md), [Arms Trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-trade.md), [Black Box](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-box.md), [Boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [Employment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/employment.md) ## Chapters 1–11 of 11 ### Pilotless Airliners, IEEE Spectrum, and Predator Drones in North Dakota - **Episode:** [364: Katy Bar The Door, Baby!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby.md) - **Published:** 2011-12-11 - **Time:** 2:17:37–2:21:41 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/pilotless-airliners-ieee-spectrum-and-predator-drones-in-north-dakota.md The hosts discuss the push for pilotless commercial airliners, citing reports from Popular Mechanics and the IEEE Spectrum. They highlight a case in Nelson County, North Dakota, where a Predator B drone was used by local law enforcement to resolve a standoff over six missing cows. This is presented as evidence of the increasing domestic use of military drone technology. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), ieee spectrum, [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), nelson county, [predator drone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predator-drone.md) ### Air France Flight 447 and Airbus Fly-By-Wire Criticism - **Episode:** [326: Carbon Cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/326-carbon-cops.md) - **Published:** 2011-07-31 - **Time:** 1:07:31–1:10:33 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/326-carbon-cops/chapter/air-france-flight-447-and-airbus-fly-by-wire-criticism.md The final report on the crash of Air France Flight 447 is criticized for blaming "pilot error" rather than technical failures in the Airbus fly-by-wire system. The discussion highlights the failure of pitot tubes and the confusing nature of computer-controlled flight systems. Concerns are also raised about the quality of Chinese-manufactured aircraft and industrial parts. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [fly-by-wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fly-by-wire.md), [pilot error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-error.md), [pitot tubes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pitot-tubes.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md) ### Air France Flight 447 Investigation Discrepancies - **Episode:** [309: Syria Be Next](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/309-syria-be-next.md) - **Published:** 2011-06-02 - **Time:** 1:38:50–1:45:20 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/309-syria-be-next/chapter/air-france-flight-447-investigation-discrepancies.md Adam Curry analyzes the official report on Air France Flight 447, questioning why the co-pilot pulled back on the stick during a stall, which contradicts standard pilot training. The discussion touches on potential software flaws in Airbus aircraft and the "fly-by-wire" systems. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [pitot tubes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pitot-tubes.md), [stall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stall.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [flight data recorder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-data-recorder.md) ### Air France Flight 447, Black Box Recovery - **Episode:** [307: US-EU Framework Agreement](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/307-us-eu-framework-agreement.md) - **Published:** 2011-05-26 - **Time:** 1:12:11–1:13:42 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/307-us-eu-framework-agreement/chapter/air-france-flight-447-black-box-recovery.md Data from the recovered black boxes of Air France Flight 447, which crashed in the Atlantic Ocean in 2009, suggests pilot error was a factor. The reporting indicates the plane descended from 40,000 feet so rapidly that oxygen masks did not deploy. Skepticism is expressed regarding the official narrative and the reliability of fly-by-wire systems on Airbus aircraft. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [black box](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-box.md), [pilot error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-error.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md) ### Flight 447, North Korea, Michael Jackson Music Rights - **Episode:** [110: Get A Shot of Protection With The No Agenda Show!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/110-get-a-shot-of-protection-with-the-no-agenda-show.md) - **Published:** 2009-07-06 - **Time:** 48:41–51:19 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/110-get-a-shot-of-protection-with-the-no-agenda-show/chapter/flight-447-north-korea-michael-jackson-music-rights.md Speculation continues regarding the crash of Air France Flight 447, with some analysts dismissing lightning as a cause while others note a mysterious flash seen by pilots. Meanwhile, North Korea's missile launches on July 5th failed to result in the predicted attack on Hawaii. In financial news, the Dutch pension fund ABP reportedly owns rights to Michael Jackson's music and is profiting from the post-mortem surge in sales. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), [michael jackson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-jackson.md), abp pension fund ### Geomagnetic Storms, Tectonic Plates, Aircraft Safety - **Episode:** [110: Get A Shot of Protection With The No Agenda Show!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/110-get-a-shot-of-protection-with-the-no-agenda-show.md) - **Published:** 2009-07-06 - **Time:** 57:53–1:01:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/110-get-a-shot-of-protection-with-the-no-agenda-show/chapter/geomagnetic-storms-tectonic-plates-aircraft-safety.md Russian Air Force commanders have reportedly issued warnings about geomagnetic storms emanating from the African tectonic plate. These storms, potentially caused by the piezoelectric effect during tectonic shifts, are being linked to the recent losses of Air France Flight 447 and a Yemenia aircraft. Such electromagnetic anomalies could severely disrupt fly-by-wire systems in modern computerized aircraft. Keywords: geomagnetic storms, [tectonic plates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tectonic-plates.md), piezoelectric effect, [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), yemenia flight ### Air France Flight 447 Alternative Theories - **Episode:** [106: A Jew In The Safe](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/106-a-jew-in-the-safe.md) - **Published:** 2009-06-21 - **Time:** 54:44–56:15 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/106-a-jew-in-the-safe/chapter/air-france-flight-447-alternative-theories.md A Spanish newspaper, El Mundo, reports that a pilot from another flight saw a "strong intense flash of white light" at the moment Air France Flight 447 disappeared. The hosts jokingly speculate about "space wars" and "death rays" involving Boeing and Airbus, noting the lack of mainstream media coverage on the flash. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), el mundo, [space wars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-wars.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), aviation mystery ### Air France Flight 447 Crash Theories - **Episode:** [105: The French Fry Connection](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/105-the-french-fry-connection.md) - **Published:** 2009-06-18 - **Time:** 26:10–29:40 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/105-the-french-fry-connection/chapter/air-france-flight-447-crash-theories.md The hosts evaluate various theories regarding the crash of Air France Flight 447, including mid-air breakup and frozen pitot tubes. They focus on a theory involving the Airbus rudder, noting a historical precedent of rudder failure in high-stress wind conditions. Curry suggests that if the plane broke up at high altitude, debris would be more widely scattered than what has been recovered. Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [pitot tubes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pitot-tubes.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md) ### Air France Flight 447, Arms Trade Consultants Disappearance - **Episode:** [103: Taylor Swift Sucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks.md) - **Published:** 2009-06-11 - **Time:** 5:09–7:52 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/103-taylor-swift-sucks/chapter/air-france-flight-447-arms-trade-consultants-disappearance.md Two passengers on the missing Air France Flight 447, Pablo Dreyfus and Ronald Dreyer, were prominent consultants involved in tracking the international illegal arms trade. Dreyfus worked with Brazilian authorities to stop weapons flow to drug gangs in Rio de Janeiro. The aircraft's tail has been located, and search teams are looking for the flight data recorders before the pingers expire. Keywords: air france flight 447, pablo dreyfus, ronald dreyer, [arms trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-trade.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md) ### Credit Scores, Employment Screening, Air France 447 Data - **Episode:** [102: Bizarre Sex Crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime.md) - **Published:** 2009-06-07 - **Time:** 41:41–43:33 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/102-bizarre-sex-crime/chapter/credit-scores-employment-screening-air-france-447-data.md The hosts discuss the increasing trend of employers using credit scores to screen job applicants. The segment transitions to breaking news regarding Air France Flight 447, with Curry reviewing leaked fault reports that indicate a TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) failure and low airspeed before the crash. Keywords: credit reports, [employment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/employment.md), [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), tcas, fault reports ### Air France Flight 447, Airbus vs Boeing Safety Theories - **Episode:** [101: Lightning Strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes.md) - **Published:** 2009-06-03 - **Time:** 5:33–7:45 - **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes/chapter/air-france-flight-447-airbus-vs-boeing-safety-theories.md The disappearance of Air France Flight 447 over the Atlantic Ocean prompts a discussion on aviation safety and weather hazards. Adam Curry dismisses lightning strikes as a likely cause of a total crash, noting that while the flight path contained severe storm systems up to 45,000 feet, aircraft are designed with significant redundancies. 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