# Ai Training on The No Agenda Show

Ai Training comes up in 6 chapters across 6 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from September 2023 to April 2026.

- **Chapters:** 6
- **Episodes:** 6
- **Discussed:** September 2023 – April 2026
- **Related topics:** [Copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [Microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [11 Labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/11-labs.md), [Ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [Blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [Blood Tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blood-tests.md), [China](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [Data Centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [Deepseek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepseek.md), [Fair Use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md)

## Chapters 1–6 of 6

### Mercor AI Hack, Chinese Model Development

- **Episode:** [1856: CIS Lunar](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar.md)
- **Published:** 2026-04-02
- **Time:** 1:17:11–1:19:50
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/mercor-ai-hack-chinese-model-development.md

The AI training company Mercor reportedly suffered a massive hack, resulting in the release of proprietary data and expert training methods. There are concerns that Chinese entities will utilize this data to create compressed, highly efficient AI models. Meanwhile, individual users are increasingly running AI models locally on hardware like Raspberry Pis to avoid commercial subscriptions like 11 Labs.

Keywords: mercor, [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [11 labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/11-labs.md), [raspberry pi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raspberry-pi.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

### Microsoft AI Copyright Claims, Mustafa Suleiman

- **Episode:** [1848: Podcaster Down!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1848-podcaster-down.md)
- **Published:** 2026-03-05
- **Time:** 1:59:11–2:01:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1848-podcaster-down/chapter/microsoft-ai-copyright-claims-mustafa-suleiman.md

Mustafa Suleiman, CEO of Microsoft AI, claimed that content on the open web has been "freeware" since the 90s and is fair use for AI training. This assertion is challenged by the hosts, who cite established copyright law and personal legal victories against unauthorized commercial use of digital content.

Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), mustafa suleiman, [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md)

### AI Data Center Market Downturn and Inference Shift

- **Episode:** [1751: Talking Toilet](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1751-talking-toilet.md)
- **Published:** 2025-03-30
- **Time:** 5:45–10:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1751-talking-toilet/chapter/ai-data-center-market-downturn-and-inference-shift.md

Industry insights from a data center developer suggest a significant downturn in the AI infrastructure market, with companies like Microsoft reportedly canceling contracts. The emergence of the Chinese DeepSeek model has shifted expectations toward cheaper training methods, moving the industry focus from remote training centers to low-latency "inference" hubs. Many struggling data centers are being repurposed for Bitcoin mining, while major firms like KKR and BlackRock have already secured exits from these investments.

Keywords: [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [deepseek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepseek.md), [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md), [inference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inference.md), [blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [kkr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kkr.md)

### Frontier AI Models, $100 Billion Entry Price, Cancer Detection Claims

- **Episode:** [1694: Gorgeous](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1694-gorgeous.md)
- **Published:** 2024-09-12
- **Time:** 1:36:38–1:39:35
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1694-gorgeous/chapter/frontier-ai-models-100-billion-entry-price-cancer-detection-claims.md

Larry Ellison stated that the entry price for a "frontier" AI model will soon reach $100 billion over the next four to five years. He claimed that specialized AI models will revolutionize healthcare by detecting cancer through blood tests and CAT scans. These assertions are compared to the failed promises of Theranos, questioning the actual utility of AI in medical diagnostics.

Keywords: frontier models, [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md), cancer detection, [blood tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blood-tests.md), cat scans, [larry ellison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-ellison.md)

### AI Training Data, Copyright Law and Coding

- **Episode:** [1619: Flash to Bang](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1619-flash-to-bang.md)
- **Published:** 2023-12-24
- **Time:** 1:32:34–1:37:25
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1619-flash-to-bang/chapter/ai-training-data-copyright-law-and-coding.md

New legislation has been proposed to require AI developers to disclose the sources of their training data to protect copyright holders. While some argue that scanning all human knowledge into a database is a societal benefit, others worry about the loss of intellectual property rights. Additionally, industry insiders claim that AI-generated code is often inferior to that produced by human programmers.

Keywords: [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), training data, [llm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/llm.md), [grok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grok.md)

### AI Model Collapse, Recursive Training, NPR Marketplace

- **Episode:** [1593: Beast Train](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1593-beast-train.md)
- **Published:** 2023-09-24
- **Time:** 2:48:31–2:54:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1593-beast-train/chapter/ai-model-collapse-recursive-training-npr-marketplace.md

A segment from NPR's Marketplace explains the concept of "model collapse," where AI systems trained on AI-generated content become increasingly deranged over generations. This recursive feedback loop is compared to photocopying a photocopy until the original image is unrecognizable. The only proposed solution is hiring humans to write original "prose" to freshen the training data.

Keywords: [model collapse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/model-collapse.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [marketplace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketplace.md), recursive ai, training data

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