# 747 on The No Agenda Show

747 comes up in 21 chapters across 20 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from March 2009 to August 2025.

- **Chapters:** 21
- **Episodes:** 20
- **Discussed:** March 2009 – August 2025
- **Related topics:** [Air Force One](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [Aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [Boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [Boeing 757](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-757.md), [Donald Trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [Donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [Mile High Club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mile-high-club.md), [New York City](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [Newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [Air Force Two](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-two.md)

## Chapters 1–20 of 21

### Delta Amex Metal, Singapore Tourism, Knight Kurt

- **Episode:** [1792: Meloni in the Middle](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle.md)
- **Published:** 2025-08-21
- **Time:** 2:18:37–2:23:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/delta-amex-metal-singapore-tourism-knight-kurt.md

Justin Proulx donated using a new Delta Reserve Amex made from a retired Boeing 747. The conversation moves to Singapore, described as a safe but "fascist" state with excellent food. Kurt Kiefer from Austin, Texas, was knighted as "Knight Kurt of the Ngorongoro Crater" ahead of his safari trip to Tanzania.

Keywords: delta amex, [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [singapore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore.md), serengeti, kurt kiefer

### Donald Trump and the Qatari Jet Controversy

- **Episode:** [1764: Rage Quit](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1764-rage-quit.md)
- **Published:** 2025-05-15
- **Time:** 10:39–13:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1764-rage-quit/chapter/donald-trump-and-the-qatari-jet-controversy.md

Donald Trump faced media scrutiny after the Qatari royal family offered a luxury Boeing 747 to the U.S. government for his use. Critics labeled the gift "Bribe Force One," suggesting it represents a conflict of interest or a violation of ethics. Analysts suggest the story may have been intentionally leaked by the Trump administration to pressure Boeing over delays in official Air Force One upgrades.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md)

### Air Force One Operating Costs and Campaign Reimbursement

- **Episode:** [1292: Killing Mink](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1292-killing-mink.md)
- **Published:** 2020-11-06
- **Time:** 46:27–48:16
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1292-killing-mink/chapter/air-force-one-operating-costs-and-campaign-reimbursement.md

A discussion on the logistics of presidential travel reveals that Air Force One costs approximately $240,000 per hour to operate. While the government pays for official travel, political campaigns are required to reimburse a portion of the costs when the aircraft is used for rallies. To save money, the president occasionally uses a smaller Boeing 757 (C-32) instead of the primary 747 (VC-25).

Keywords: [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [air force two](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-two.md), [campaign finance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-finance.md), [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [boeing 757](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-757.md)

### Aircraft Air Filtration Systems and Pressurization Mechanics

- **Episode:** [1285: Davos Douche](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1285-davos-douche.md)
- **Published:** 2020-10-15
- **Time:** 32:35–37:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1285-davos-douche/chapter/aircraft-air-filtration-systems-and-pressurization-mechanics.md

Research suggests that the risk of COVID-19 transmission on airplanes is low due to HEPA filters and rapid air cycling every 2-3 minutes. The mechanics of aircraft pressurization involve fresh air entering from the front and being managed by outflow valves in the tail cone. Despite public skepticism, the airflow in a cabin creates the equivalent of seven feet of separation between passengers.

Keywords: hepa filters, aircraft pressurization, [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), air travel safety, cabin air

### Trump's Criticism of Boeing and Air Force One Costs

- **Episode:** [884: Lane Splitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/884-lane-splitter.md)
- **Published:** 2016-12-08
- **Time:** 3:02:32–3:06:24
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/884-lane-splitter/chapter/trump-s-criticism-of-boeing-and-air-force-one-costs.md

Donald Trump uses Twitter to criticize the $4 billion projected cost for two new Air Force One aircraft, suggesting the order should be canceled. The hosts analyze this as a strategic move to signal fiscal responsibility and pressure defense contractors to lower their prices. They note that the high cost stems from the planes' roles as airborne command centers with advanced missile defenses.

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### Boeing 747 Longevity and People Express History

- **Episode:** [747: Heteronormative](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/747-heteronormative.md)
- **Published:** 2015-08-13
- **Time:** 51:23–54:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/747-heteronormative/chapter/boeing-747-longevity-and-people-express-history.md

The Boeing 747, which first flew in 1969, remains one of the most reliable aircraft in service despite its aging technology. The hosts reminisce about the early days of budget travel on People Express and the lack of significant advancement in commercial aviation since the 1970s.

Keywords: [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), people express, [supersonic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supersonic.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md)

### Mile High Club, Show 747 Promotion

- **Episode:** [746: Thermostat Placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/746-thermostat-placebo.md)
- **Published:** 2015-08-09
- **Time:** 1:00:38–1:02:48
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/746-thermostat-placebo/chapter/mile-high-club-show-747-promotion.md

The hosts announce a "Mile High Club" theme for the upcoming episode 747, encouraging $52.80 donations to match the altitude of a mile. Artists are invited to submit logos for the club to be featured in the newsletter and on mobile lock screens.

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### Mile High Club, Episode 747 Donation Promotion

- **Episode:** [745: Unicorn](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/745-unicorn.md)
- **Published:** 2015-08-06
- **Time:** 1:54:11–1:56:49
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/745-unicorn/chapter/mile-high-club-episode-747-donation-promotion.md

The hosts announce a special "Mile High Club" promotion for the upcoming Episode 747. Listeners who donate $52.80 (the number of feet in a mile) will be recognized as members of the club. They call for designers to create a commemorative badge or patch that members can display on social media or LinkedIn.

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### Boeing 747 Pricing, Inflation Calculation Discrepancies

- **Episode:** [726: Weather Whiplash](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/726-weather-whiplash.md)
- **Published:** 2015-05-31
- **Time:** 1:41:04–1:43:40
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/726-weather-whiplash/chapter/boeing-747-pricing-inflation-calculation-discrepancies.md

A comparison of Boeing 747 prices from 1970 to 2015 reveals a significant gap between government inflation data and real-world costs. While a 1970 list price of $24 million should equate to $146 million today according to the CPI, the actual selling price is approximately $357 million. This discrepancy suggests that official government inflation numbers are significantly understated.

Keywords: [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [cpi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpi.md), [shadow stats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shadow-stats.md), manufacturing costs

### Boeing Labor Disputes and Paul Allen's 12th Man 747

- **Episode:** [588: Velveeta Shortage!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/588-velveeta-shortage.md)
- **Published:** 2014-02-05
- **Time:** 13:04–17:28
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/588-velveeta-shortage/chapter/boeing-labor-disputes-and-paul-allen-s-12th-man-747.md

A theory is proposed that a Seattle Seahawks victory would serve to boost morale in Washington following a contentious contract dispute between Boeing and the machinists union. The hosts discuss the importance of the aerospace industry to the region and the symbolic power of Paul Allen's custom-painted "12th Man" Boeing 747. They suggest the elite may use the game to pacify a depressed workforce.

Keywords: [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [paul allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), machinists union, [747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/747.md), labor contract, [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md)

### World Airways, People's Express, Airline History

- **Episode:** [549: Associative Propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/549-associative-propaganda.md)
- **Published:** 2013-09-19
- **Time:** 2:01:08–2:03:41
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/549-associative-propaganda/chapter/world-airways-people-s-express-airline-history.md

Retired pilot Gary Wiley prompts a discussion about airline history. The hosts reminisce about World Airways, Braniff, and People's Express, noting that People's Express was a pioneer in low-cost 747 flights and paid food service. They credit PSA (Pacific Southwest Airlines) as the original model for Southwest Airlines' humorous and efficient approach.

Keywords: world airways, people's express, braniff, [southwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southwest-airlines.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/747.md)

### Air Force One, Boeing 757 in Utah

- **Episode:** [276: Cleopatra Returns](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/276-cleopatra-returns.md)
- **Published:** 2011-02-06
- **Time:** 16:21–18:53
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/276-cleopatra-returns/chapter/air-force-one-boeing-757-in-utah.md

President Obama was observed flying to Utah in a Boeing 757 rather than the standard 747 Air Force One. A local child, Tyson Lamb, received a "challenge coin" from a Secret Service agent during the visit. This prompts a discussion about the history of military challenge coins and the possibility of creating a No Agenda version.

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### Pentagon Denial and the Airplane Contrail Explanation

- **Episode:** [251: Banned by NASA](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa.md)
- **Published:** 2010-11-11
- **Time:** 20:23–25:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/pentagon-denial-and-the-airplane-contrail-explanation.md

NBC's Brian Williams and military expert John Pike report on the Pentagon's insistence that the California "missile" was actually a jumbo jet. Critics argue the slow speed and course changes suggest a commercial flight, though skeptics point out the lack of radar data for a specific flight.

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### British Airways Emergency Landing, Automated Message Error

- **Episode:** [230: Battle of the Billionaires](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/230-battle-of-the-billionaires.md)
- **Published:** 2010-08-29
- **Time:** 37:48–41:31
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/230-battle-of-the-billionaires/chapter/british-airways-emergency-landing-automated-message-error.md

Passengers on a British Airways flight from London to Hong Kong were terrified when an automated announcement mistakenly informed them of an imminent emergency water landing. The airline apologized for the error, which occurred while the Boeing 747 was at 30,000 feet. The hosts speculate on how such a system is triggered and the potential for legal action.

Keywords: [british airways](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-airways.md), [emergency landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-landing.md), [747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/747.md), automated announcement, [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md)

### Airborne Laser Test, Boeing 747 Missile Defense

- **Episode:** [174: Gung Ho!! Fat Choy!](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/174-gung-ho-fat-choy.md)
- **Published:** 2010-02-14
- **Time:** 1:09:35–1:13:10
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/174-gung-ho-fat-choy/chapter/airborne-laser-test-boeing-747-missile-defense.md

The U.S. Air Force successfully used a high-powered laser mounted on a modified Boeing 747 to shoot down a ballistic missile in flight. The hosts remind the audience that they predicted the deployment of directed energy weapons over a year ago. They discuss the potential for these "ray guns" to be used for both lethal and non-lethal crowd control.

Keywords: airborne laser, [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [ballistic missile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ballistic-missile.md), [directed energy weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/directed-energy-weapons.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [us air force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-air-force.md)

### Boeing 747 Cocaine Crash in West Africa

- **Episode:** [149: Fools Gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/149-fools-gold.md)
- **Published:** 2009-11-19
- **Time:** 32:43–35:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/149-fools-gold/chapter/boeing-747-cocaine-crash-in-west-africa.md

A Boeing 747 carrying at least 10 tons of cocaine crashed in West Africa after attempting to take off from a makeshift desert airstrip. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) reported on the incident, though some confusion exists regarding whether the cargo was cocaine or heroin sourced from Pakistan. The lack of mainstream media coverage for a massive aircraft crash involving tons of narcotics is highlighted as a significant oversight.

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### Air France Flight 447, Airbus vs Boeing Safety Theories

- **Episode:** [101: Lightning Strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes.md)
- **Published:** 2009-06-03
- **Time:** 5:33–7:45
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes/chapter/air-france-flight-447-airbus-vs-boeing-safety-theories.md

The disappearance of Air France Flight 447 over the Atlantic Ocean prompts a discussion on aviation safety and weather hazards. Adam Curry dismisses lightning strikes as a likely cause of a total crash, noting that while the flight path contained severe storm systems up to 45,000 feet, aircraft are designed with significant redundancies. The conversation touches on the rivalry between Airbus fly-by-wire systems and Boeing's traditional mechanical controls.

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### Flight Simulators, NASA Ames Research Center Training

- **Episode:** [101: Lightning Strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes.md)
- **Published:** 2009-06-03
- **Time:** 10:24–14:22
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/101-lightning-strikes/chapter/flight-simulators-nasa-ames-research-center-training.md

John C. Dvorak describes his experience flying a Boeing 747 simulator at the NASA Ames Research Center. He compares the tactile feel of traditional cockpits to modern fly-by-wire joystick systems, noting he found the joystick easier to land. The anecdote includes a failed simulation of a 747 takeoff on an icy runway with a heavy crosswind.

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### Air Force One New York City Photo Op Controversy

- **Episode:** [95: We're All Terrorists Now](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/95-we-re-all-terrorists-now.md)
- **Published:** 2009-05-07
- **Time:** 14:54–17:44
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/95-we-re-all-terrorists-now/chapter/air-force-one-new-york-city-photo-op-controversy.md

The White House refused to release photos from a $300,000 Air Force One photo op over New York City, citing national security. Speculation arises that the flight was a "joyride" for political insiders and friends rather than a strictly professional mission. The lack of transparency regarding the event is contrasted with President Obama's earlier promises of an open administration.

Keywords: [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), 747 flyby, [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md)

### Air Force One, New York City Photo Op Controversy

- **Episode:** [94: Dvorak Wears Prada](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/94-dvorak-wears-prada.md)
- **Published:** 2009-05-03
- **Time:** 13:38–18:23
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/94-dvorak-wears-prada/chapter/air-force-one-new-york-city-photo-op-controversy.md

The 2009 Air Force One low-flying photo op over New York City is analyzed, with reports indicating that military photographers were stationed on rooftops with long lenses. The hosts criticize the decision to keep the flight secret from the public and the NYPD, which resulted in widespread panic. They argue the $350,000 mission was a missed opportunity for a patriotic event and could have been easily achieved through digital manipulation.

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