# 2017 on The No Agenda Show

2017 comes up in 13 chapters across 13 episodes of The No Agenda Show, from November 2012 to February 2026.

- **Chapters:** 13
- **Episodes:** 13
- **Discussed:** November 2012 – February 2026
- **Related topics:** [Economic Cycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-cycles.md), [1857 Depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1857-depression.md), [2020](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020.md), [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [Antony Blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [Bond Market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bond-market.md), [Brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [Bundestag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bundestag.md), [California](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [China](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

## Chapters 1–13 of 13

### 2017 Flu Retrospective, Jerry Pournelle

- **Episode:** [1843: Token Muncher](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1843-token-muncher.md)
- **Published:** 2026-02-15
- **Time:** 2:13:07–2:15:42
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1843-token-muncher/chapter/2017-flu-retrospective-jerry-pournelle.md

A discussion about the current flu season leads to a retrospective on the severe flu of 2017, which reportedly killed science fiction author Jerry Pournelle and others. The host describes using high doses of Vitamin D3 and Tamiflu to combat the illness. The current "bug" going around is compared to the early, pre-lockdown sickness of late 2019.

Keywords: [flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu.md), [jerry pournelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-pournelle.md), [vitamin d3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamin-d3.md), [tamiflu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tamiflu.md), [typhoid mary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/typhoid-mary.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md)

### Alexander Dugin, Antony Blinken and Populism Dialogue

- **Episode:** [1480: Internet of Dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1480-internet-of-dogs.md)
- **Published:** 2022-08-27
- **Time:** 2:37:48–2:40:10
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1480-internet-of-dogs/chapter/alexander-dugin-antony-blinken-and-populism-dialogue.md

A 2017 clip features Alexander Dugin in a roundtable discussion with current US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Dugin argues that populism is a "new form of critical theory" that transcends the old left-right divide and should be engaged in dialogue rather than demonized. He identifies both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin as populist leaders who represent an anti-liberal tendency.

Keywords: alexander dugin, [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [populism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/populism.md), [fascism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fascism.md), [liberalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberalism.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md)

### Kuri Smart Home Robot, CES 2017 and Domain Name Value

- **Episode:** [894: Ash for Cash](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/894-ash-for-cash.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-12
- **Time:** 2:44:28–2:47:55
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/894-ash-for-cash/chapter/kuri-smart-home-robot-ces-2017-and-domain-name-value.md

A new smart home robot named "Kuri" (spelled K-O-U-R-I) was unveiled at the Consumer Electronics Show by Mayfield Robotics. The segment humorously explores the potential value of the "curry.com" domain name before realizing the robot's name uses a different spelling.

Keywords: kuri, [smart home](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-home.md), [robot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robot.md), ces 2017, mayfield robotics, [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md)

### New Year Resolutions, 2017 Book Projects

- **Episode:** [891: Bug Juice](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice.md)
- **Published:** 2017-01-01
- **Time:** 1:17
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/891-bug-juice/chapter/new-year-resolutions-2017-book-projects.md

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the first show of 2017 by discussing their professional goals for the year. Dvorak plans to release books on Plato and market cycles before June, while Curry aims to finalize his dedicated podcast hardware device.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [plato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plato.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md), podcast device, book projects

### Germany's Proposed Ministry of Truth and Fake News Fines

- **Episode:** [890: Factivist](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/890-factivist.md)
- **Published:** 2016-12-29
- **Time:** 40:39–43:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/890-factivist/chapter/germany-s-proposed-ministry-of-truth-and-fake-news-fines.md

Germany announces plans to establish a defense center against disinformation ahead of the 2017 Bundestag elections. The hosts compare this to Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" and discuss proposed fines of 500,000 euros per fake news item. The narrative in Europe is shifting to equate "fake news" specifically with Russian propaganda.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [bundestag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bundestag.md), [fake news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-news.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), 2017 election

### European Parallels to Trump and Brexit

- **Episode:** [877: The Angries](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/877-the-angries.md)
- **Published:** 2016-11-14
- **Time:** 2:01:52–2:05:12
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/877-the-angries/chapter/european-parallels-to-trump-and-brexit.md

A professor in Brussels discusses the "frightening" parallels between Donald Trump's victory and the Brexit vote. The segment explores how populist parties in France, the Netherlands, and Germany may be galvanized by the American election results heading into 2017.

Keywords: [euronews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euronews.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [marine le pen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marine-le-pen.md), populist parties, 2017 elections

### GASB Pension Accounting and 2017 Bond Market Collapse

- **Episode:** [872: Kinetic Kill](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/872-kinetic-kill.md)
- **Published:** 2016-10-27
- **Time:** 2:26:32–2:32:51
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/872-kinetic-kill/chapter/gasb-pension-accounting-and-2017-bond-market-collapse.md

John C. Dvorak warns of an upcoming collapse in the municipal bond market triggered by new Government Accounting Standards Board (GASB) rules. These statements (68-74) require cities to list unfunded pension liabilities on their primary balance sheets, which will reveal that many California cities are effectively broke. Dvorak predicts this financial realization will occur in mid-2017, potentially creating opportunities for investors to short bonds or move into gold and Bitcoin.

Keywords: gasb, pension crisis, [bond market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bond-market.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md), accounting standards

### Oil Price Predictions and the 2017 Economic Forecast

- **Episode:** [791: Shunt Unit](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/791-shunt-unit.md)
- **Published:** 2016-01-17
- **Time:** 2:20:09–2:25:18
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/791-shunt-unit/chapter/oil-price-predictions-and-the-2017-economic-forecast.md

The hosts place "Red Book" bets on the bottom of the oil market, with predictions ranging from $13.50 to $24.00 per barrel. They warn that while the current situation is a correction, a much larger and more "frightening" economic event is forecasted for 2017.

Keywords: [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [wti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wti.md), brent, economic forecast, [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md)

### China Successfully Recovers Experimental Lunar Spacecraft

- **Episode:** [666: Slavery Enrollment Month](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/666-slavery-enrollment-month.md)
- **Published:** 2014-11-07
- **Time:** 35:48–37:08
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/666-slavery-enrollment-month/chapter/china-successfully-recovers-experimental-lunar-spacecraft.md

China successfully recovered an experimental spacecraft that completed a flight around the moon and returned to Earth. This mission serves as a test run for a planned unmanned lunar surface return trip in 2017. The hosts remark on the slow progress of lunar exploration compared to the technology available in modern smartphones.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [moon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon.md), lunar mission, spacecraft, [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md)

### Economic Panic of 1847, Railway Bubble, 2017 Forecast

- **Episode:** [535: Swivel-Chair Speed](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/535-swivel-chair-speed.md)
- **Published:** 2013-08-01
- **Time:** 1:25:23–1:26:58
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/535-swivel-chair-speed/chapter/economic-panic-of-1847-railway-bubble-2017-forecast.md

The Panic of 1847, caused by a collapse in the British railway industry, is identified as a historical parallel to the 2007 housing bubble. Based on 80-year and 170-year economic cycles, a major global collapse is predicted for 2017. This cycle theory suggests that the world may avoid a total collapse in the immediate term but will face a significant downturn in three to four years.

Keywords: panic of 1847, railway boom, [economic cycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-cycles.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md), [housing bubble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/housing-bubble.md)

### Economic Cycles, 1857 Depression and Oil Wealth

- **Episode:** [489: Eat a Baseball](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/489-eat-a-baseball.md)
- **Published:** 2013-02-21
- **Time:** 1:32:48–1:40:21
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/489-eat-a-baseball/chapter/economic-cycles-1857-depression-and-oil-wealth.md

John C. Dvorak presents his thesis on 40-year and 80-year economic depression cycles, comparing the current era to the 1850s. He argues that the discovery of shale gas and oil in the U.S. is acting as a temporary wealth influx similar to the 1849 Gold Rush, potentially delaying a major crash until 2017. The discussion covers the historical depression of 1857 and a predicted global conflagration in 2020.

Keywords: [economic cycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-cycles.md), [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), [shale gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shale-gas.md), [1857 depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1857-depression.md), 2017 crash

### Economic Cycles, Shale Oil Gold Rush

- **Episode:** [486: Bondpocalypse](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/486-bondpocalypse.md)
- **Published:** 2013-02-10
- **Time:** 1:51:28–1:55:11
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/486-bondpocalypse/chapter/economic-cycles-shale-oil-gold-rush.md

A theory is presented comparing the current U.S. shale oil and natural gas boom to the 1850s Gold Rush. The hosts suggest this influx of "free money" from energy resources might delay a total economic collapse until approximately 2017.

Keywords: [economic cycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-cycles.md), [shale oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shale-oil.md), [fracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fracking.md), [gold rush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-rush.md), 2017 collapse

### Economic Cycles, 2017 Collapse and 2020 Drone War Prediction

- **Episode:** [464: Iron Key](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/464-iron-key.md)
- **Published:** 2012-11-25
- **Time:** 2:04:06–2:09:34
- **Transcript:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/464-iron-key/chapter/economic-cycles-2017-collapse-and-2020-drone-war-prediction.md

A theory of 80-year historical cycles predicts a major "dislocation" or war in 2020, following the patterns of the American Revolution, the Civil War, and World War II. The hosts anticipate a secondary economic collapse in 2017, followed by a period of growth. They speculate that the next major conflict will be a "cyber war" involving attacks on the power grid and potentially a domestic false flag event in 2013.

Keywords: [economic cycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-cycles.md), [2017](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2017.md), [2020](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020.md), [civil war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-war.md), [cyber war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-war.md), [false flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-flag.md)

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