# Born This Way

> Corporate scandals collide with atmospheric chaos as Equifax executives dump stock ahead of a massive data breach disclosure while Hurricane Irma bears down on the Florida coast.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 963
- **Published:** 2017-09-10
- **Length:** 2h 56m
- **Topics:** Equifax Breach, [Hurricane Irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), DACA Politics, [Technocracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technocracy.md), [Jerry Pournelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-pournelle.md), Vector Control, AI Facial Recognition
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way

## About this episode

Equifax faces intense scrutiny following a massive data breach exposing 143 million Americans, while CEO Rick Smith and other top executives are accused of insider trading after selling $1.8 million in stock. Senator Elizabeth Warren has called for a formal investigation into the six-week delay between the breach discovery and public disclosure. Body language analysis of Smith’s video statement suggests significant internal conflict, with theories emerging that the scale of the theft points toward a state-sponsored intelligence operation rather than a standard criminal hack.

In Florida, Governor Rick Scott has issued mandatory evacuation orders as Hurricane Irma approaches Lee County with catastrophic wind speeds and a 35-mile radius of destruction. The mass exodus has triggered fuel shortages and overwhelmed shelters, where an influx of pets is causing sanitation and safety concerns. Meanwhile, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has launched a massive Department of Defense-backed vector control operation to combat mosquito outbreaks following Hurricane Harvey. In the political sphere, archival footage of Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer reveals a stark shift from their previous hardline stances on illegal immigration as the DACA debate intensifies.

Steve Bannon’s 60 Minutes interview has sparked a feud with Cardinal Dolan over the Catholic Church’s economic interests in immigration policy. Elsewhere, Lenny Dykstra utilized Periscope to offer unsolicited marriage advice to Lena Dunham, and Dennis Rodman detailed his karaoke sessions with Kim Jong-un on Good Morning Britain. The program also pays tribute to the late science fiction legend Jerry Pournelle following his passing at age 84.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/transcript.md.

### 1. Equifax Data Breach, Cybersecurity Failures and Executive Stock Sales (0:00–5:01)

Equifax revealed a massive cyber attack impacting 143 million Americans, exposing sensitive data including Social Security numbers and birth dates. Critics and lawmakers like Elizabeth Warren have called for investigations into why the company waited six weeks to announce the hack. Reports indicate three senior executives sold $1.8 million in stock shortly after the breach was discovered, though the company claims they were unaware of the incident at the time.

Keywords: [equifax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equifax.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), rick smith, [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [social security numbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security-numbers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Equifax Executive Stock Sales, Insider Trading Allegations (5:02–7:47)

The timing of Equifax executive stock sales is scrutinized following the disclosure of the May-June data breach. While some argue the sales were part of a standard post-lockup schedule, others find it unlikely that the CFO was unaware of a breach of this magnitude. The discussion notes that internal corporate gossip usually spreads quickly once a security incident is identified.

Keywords: [insider trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insider-trading.md), 8k filing, [cfo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cfo.md), stock lockup, corporate gossip

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Equifax CEO Rick Smith, Body Language Analysis (7:48–14:15)

An analysis of Equifax CEO Rick Smith's video statement using Bombard's Body Language techniques suggests he was reading from cue cards rather than a teleprompter. The evaluation highlights specific "tells," such as mouth pursing and eye squinting, which allegedly indicate internal conflict and stress regarding the "unauthorized access" claims. The analysis concludes Smith is primarily concerned with protecting corporate partners rather than individual consumers.

Keywords: rick smith, [bombard's body language](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bombard-s-body-language.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [micro-expressions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/micro-expressions.md), [edelman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edelman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Intelligence Agency Involvement, Large Scale Data Theft (14:16–15:07)

Speculation arises that the Equifax breach may have been the work of an intelligence agency rather than a standard criminal organization. The sheer volume of the data stolen suggests a level of processing power and intent beyond simple identity theft for profit. One theory posits that an agency might have "stolen" the database to replace a failed internal backup.

Keywords: intelligence agency, [data theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-theft.md), [identity theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-theft.md), [database](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/database.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Mark Zuckerberg, Dominance and Body Language (15:08–18:08)

Mark Zuckerberg's public speaking posture and eye contact are analyzed as intentional displays of dominance and control. The evaluation compares his stiff, upright seating position to the character Data from Star Trek, describing his appearance as "eerie." The segment briefly touches on fringe theories regarding "homo capensis" and Zuckerberg's long head shape.

Keywords: [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data.md), [star trek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/star-trek.md), homo capensis, [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Steve Jobs, Nudity and Dominance Tactics (18:11–19:37)

A historical anecdote from a Vanity Fair article describes Steve Jobs' alleged habit of putting his feet up on tables during meetings while wearing loose shorts and no underwear. This behavior is characterized as a deliberate, albeit disturbing, tactic to dominate and unsettle colleagues. The story was reportedly confirmed by a guest on the program Silicon Spin.

Keywords: [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [vanity fair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vanity-fair.md), [silicon spin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-spin.md), dominance, office behavior

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Hurricane Irma, Florida Evacuations and Media Coverage (19:36–27:12)

Hurricane Irma is tracking toward the Florida coast, prompting mandatory evacuation orders for the Florida Keys and surrounding areas. Governor Rick Scott issued urgent warnings for residents to leave immediately as the Category 3 storm threatens triple-digit winds and significant storm surges. Media reports highlight the logistical challenges of the mass exodus, including fuel shortages and reaching shelter capacity.

Keywords: [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [rick scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-scott.md), key largo, [evacuation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evacuation.md), [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Hurricane Irma, Pet Management in Shelters (27:12–28:08)

The influx of pets at hurricane shelters has created significant noise and sanitation issues for evacuees. Many people arriving at shelters with multiple dogs have led to reports of fighting, barking, and hygiene problems. The segment emphasizes the difficulty of managing large numbers of animals in confined emergency spaces.

Keywords: pet friendly shelters, [animal behavior](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-behavior.md), hurricane evacuation, [dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dogs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Hurricane Irma, Political Vitriol on Social Media (28:09–30:01)

Social media posts from political opponents of Donald Trump have drawn criticism for wishing destruction upon Florida residents who support the President. Various users on platforms like Facebook and Twitter used hashtags like #DACA while expressing hope that Hurricane Irma would specifically target Trump supporters' homes. The commentary notes the extreme level of polarization and lack of empathy in these public statements.

Keywords: [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [trump supporters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-supporters.md), [daca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), [political polarization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-polarization.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Hurricane Irma, Wind Radius and Lee County Landfall (30:04–31:41)

Meteorological data indicates that Hurricane Irma's most destructive winds are concentrated within a 35-mile radius of the eye. Landfall is projected for Lee County, Florida, which triggers a brief discussion regarding the county's namesake, Robert E. Lee. The segment notes that while the storm surge is a major threat, wind speeds drop off significantly outside the immediate eyewall.

Keywords: eyewall, [lee county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lee-county.md), robert e lee, [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md), wind speed

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Hurricane Harvey Recovery, Texas Mosquito Vector Control (31:51–33:31)

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced a massive vector control operation to combat mosquito outbreaks following Hurricane Harvey. The state is partnering with the Department of Defense and federal health agencies to conduct wide-area aerial spraying. The standing water left by the storm has created a significant health risk, and the federal government is expected to fund 100% of the initial 30-day spraying effort.

Keywords: [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), vector control, [mosquitoes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mosquitoes.md), [aerial spraying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerial-spraying.md), [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Economic Impact of Disasters, New York Fed Analysis (33:32–36:17)

William Dudley, President of the New York Fed, suggests that while hurricanes initially disrupt commerce and raise prices, the long-term effect can actually boost economic activity through rebuilding efforts. This "broken window" economic theory is met with skepticism, as historical data often fails to show a clear net positive from such destruction. The disruption makes it difficult for economists to read accurate data in the months following a major storm.

Keywords: william dudley, new york fed, [economic growth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-growth.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), rebuilding

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Michio Kaku, Laser-Based Weather Modification (36:17–41:04)

Physicist Michio Kaku appeared on CBS to discuss experimental technology using trillion-watt lasers to precipitate rain and lightning. Kaku noted that the CIA allegedly attempted weather modification during the Vietnam War to flood the Viet Cong. While the technology requires existing water vapor to work, it is presented as a potential future tool for managing droughts and steering hurricanes.

Keywords: [michio kaku](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michio-kaku.md), [weather modification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-modification.md), [lasers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lasers.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Climategate Emails, Sam Harris and History Revisionism (41:06–43:36)

A discussion on the Sam Harris podcast regarding the "Climategate" email scandal is criticized as an attempt to rewrite history. Harris suggested that Russia may have been the source of the hack, while the hosts argue that the content of the emails—which suggested data manipulation—was proven true despite subsequent investigations. The segment frames this as a broader trend of media figures dismissing past scandals as foreign propaganda.

Keywords: [climategate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climategate.md), [sam harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-harris.md), [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Hurricane Irma, St. Martin and Barbuda Destruction (43:37–45:39)

Hurricane Irma caused catastrophic damage to the islands of St. Martin and Barbuda, with officials estimating 70% of homes on St. Martin were destroyed. The U.S. Department of Defense began evacuating hundreds of Americans from the island, though some residents initially reported a lack of clear evacuation plans. The storm's path through the Caribbean has left thousands homeless and seeking international aid.

Keywords: [st. martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-martin.md), barbuda, [evacuation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evacuation.md), [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md), hurricane damage

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Hurricane Survival Stories, Condos and Boats in Mangroves (45:39–50:04)

Various unconventional survival strategies are discussed, including boat owners who tied their vessels into mangroves in hopes the natural barrier would protect them from Irma. Other stories involve residents staying in high-rise Miami condos with metal shutters or self-built reinforced homes in Puerto Rico. The hosts express a desire for follow-up reporting to see which of these methods actually withstood the storm's force.

Keywords: mangroves, [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), [puerto rico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puerto-rico.md), hurricane survival, boat safety

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Earthquakes and Solar Flares, Ring of Fire Activity (50:05–54:39)

A massive 8.1 magnitude earthquake in Mexico and significant X-class solar flares have raised concerns about increased geological activity along the Ring of Fire. The tectonic shift in Mexico was reported to be as much as 50 to 60 feet. Speculation follows regarding potential volcanic eruptions in the Pacific Northwest, specifically mentioning Mount Rainier and Mount Shasta as active threats.

Keywords: mexico earthquake, [solar flares](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solar-flares.md), [ring of fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ring-of-fire.md), mount rainier, [volcanoes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcanoes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Stanford AI Study, Facial Recognition and Sexuality (54:41–1:04:07)

Researchers at Stanford University, led by Mikhail Kassinsky, developed an AI algorithm capable of detecting sexual orientation from facial images with high accuracy. The study, which used data from public dating sites, claims the AI can distinguish between gay and straight men with 92% accuracy. The hosts argue the study is being used to support the theory that sexuality is biological rather than a choice, while questioning the validity of using curated dating profile photos as a data set.

Keywords: [stanford university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanford-university.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [gaydar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaydar.md), mikhail kassinsky, [dating sites](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dating-sites.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/18.md)

### 19. No Agenda Show, P2P Donation Systems (1:04:08–1:07:17)

The program explores new peer-to-peer (P2P) payment systems as a way to avoid high transaction fees associated with traditional platforms like PayPal. A donor utilized a bank-direct P2P transfer to send a large contribution, which arrived without the usual processing cuts. The hosts compare this to services like Zelle and Popmoney, noting the increasing ease of direct digital transfers.

Keywords: [p2p](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/p2p.md), [zelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zelle.md), [popmoney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/popmoney.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Native American Governance, Benjamin Franklin and Consensus (1:07:18–1:10:24)

A donor's note discusses the influence of the Five-Nation Confederacy on the American Founders, specifically Benjamin Franklin. The theory suggests that the U.S. government structure borrowed heavily from indigenous forms of consensus-based governance. The hosts critique the efficiency of consensus-based systems, citing modern Swedish and Japanese corporate cultures as examples of where the model can become cumbersome.

Keywords: iroquois confederacy, [benjamin franklin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-franklin.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [consensus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consensus.md), [government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/20.md)

### 21. No Agenda History, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Meeting (1:10:25–1:13:44)

The hosts recount their first meeting in 1992 on the set of a CNET television production. They reflect on their shared history in traditional media and how their dissatisfaction with corporate production standards led them to create the No Agenda podcast. This retrospective was prompted by a listener question regarding the origins of their professional partnership.

Keywords: [cnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnet.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [podcasting history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-history.md), [1992](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1992.md), [media production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/21.md)

### 22. No Agenda Executive Producers, Show 963 Credits (1:13:46–1:17:00)

The hosts credit the executive and associate executive producers who funded Episode 963 through the "value for value" model. They emphasize that the show operates without traditional advertising, relying entirely on listener support. The segment includes the reading of various donation amounts and the granting of honorary titles to top contributors.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [associate executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producer.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Harvard Study, Propaganda and the 2016 Election (1:17:01–1:19:31)

A report from Harvard's Berkman Klein Center claims that partisan propaganda and disinformation on Facebook significantly aided Donald Trump's 2016 victory. The hosts dispute this, arguing that Trump's victory was due to his high volume of live speeches and the media's obsessive coverage of him. They contend that the media is blaming social media algorithms to avoid acknowledging their own role in elevating Trump's profile.

Keywords: [harvard university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard-university.md), berkman klein center, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Bernie Sanders, Medicare for All and Hillary Clinton (1:19:31–1:26:24)

Bernie Sanders appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to defend his "Medicare for All" proposal and respond to criticisms from Hillary Clinton's memoir. Sanders argued that healthcare should be a human right, while the hosts critique the "human right" framing as a socialist trope. They suggest a better argument for universal healthcare would be based on national pride and public health pragmatism rather than intangible rights.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md), [medicare for all](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare-for-all.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Lenny Dykstra, Lena Dunham and Twitter Periscope (1:26:24–1:32:33)

Former baseball player Lenny Dykstra posted a series of controversial videos on Twitter directed at Lena Dunham, offering unsolicited advice on marriage and traditional gender roles. Dykstra, who has a history of legal and financial troubles, claimed he could "rescue" Dunham and her fans from disillusionment. The hosts discuss the rise of unpolished, direct-to-camera video content on platforms like Periscope.

Keywords: lenny dykstra, [lena dunham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lena-dunham.md), [periscope](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/periscope.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [baseball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baseball.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/25.md)

### 26. DACA Hypocrisy, Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer (1:32:33–1:34:56)

Archival clips of Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer from 2009 and 2011 show them taking much harder stances on illegal immigration than their current positions on DACA. Schumer is heard emphasizing the importance of the term "illegal alien" and the need for tough enforcement. The hosts highlight these clips as evidence of political opportunism and the power of the internet to preserve contradictory past statements.

Keywords: [daca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), political flip-flopping

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Associated Press Style Guide, Undocumented Citizens Terminology (1:34:57–1:37:36)

The Associated Press and certain political figures like Rahm Emanuel have begun using the term "undocumented citizens" to describe illegal immigrants. The hosts argue this is a factually incorrect use of the word "citizen" and represents a propaganda effort to normalize the lack of national borders. They note that while the official AP style guide may not have changed, the practical usage in reporting has shifted.

Keywords: [associated press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associated-press.md), [style guide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/style-guide.md), undocumented citizens, [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Charlottesville Investigation, Heather Heyer Death Details (1:37:40–1:41:35)

Questions are raised regarding the specific cause of death for Heather Heyer during the Charlottesville protests. While initially reported as being "mowed down" by a car, her mother stated in an interview that Heyer died of a heart attack at the scene. The hosts note the lack of recent updates or formal indictments in the case against the driver, James Alex Fields Jr., suggesting the story has been largely dropped by the media.

Keywords: [charlottesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlottesville.md), heather heyer, [heart attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-attack.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), [autopsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autopsy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Maxine Waters, Domestic Terrorism and Privacy (1:41:36–1:45:52)

Representative Maxine Waters cited historical events like Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City bombing to argue for increased focus on domestic terrorism. During a committee hearing, she suggested that privacy concerns should not prevent the government from getting a "fix" on "lone killers" and white nationalists. The hosts interpret her comments as an open call for expanded domestic spying on American citizens.

Keywords: [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), [ruby ridge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ruby-ridge.md), [oklahoma city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city.md), [domestic spying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-spying.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Judicial Watch, FOIA Lawsuits and the Deep State (1:45:54–1:50:16)

A representative from Judicial Watch discussed the organization's hundreds of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits against the federal government. He argued that a "Deep State" of career bureaucrats is actively obstructing the Trump administration's transparency efforts. The segment frames the ongoing legal battles as a necessary check on a bureaucracy that Judicial Watch claims is operating outside the rule of law to target political opponents.

Keywords: [judicial watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judicial-watch.md), [foia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foia.md), [deep state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-state.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), [trump administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-administration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Technocracy and Light Bulb Regulation, Philips Scandal (1:50:18–1:56:13)

The discussion explores the concept of technocracy, where experts and bureaucrats make laws without public votes, such as the ban on incandescent light bulbs. A scandal in the Netherlands allegedly involves Philips colluding with government experts to push mercury-based CFL bulbs. The hosts also critique LEED certification requirements that lead to "crippled" appliances, such as dishwashers with disabled heating elements.

Keywords: [technocracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technocracy.md), [philips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philips.md), [light bulbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/light-bulbs.md), [leed certification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leed-certification.md), incandescent ban

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/31.md)

### 32. European Migrant Crisis, Brussels and Italy (1:56:16–1:59:11)

The migrant crisis in Europe has reached Brussels, where hundreds of people are sleeping in parks near EU headquarters. Reports from Italy suggest that the mafia is exploiting migrants as slave labor on farms, pocketing government subsidies intended for their care. The situation remains tense as countries like Belgium attempt to prevent the formation of permanent camps similar to the "Jungle" in Calais.

Keywords: [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [calais](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calais.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [migrant crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migrant-crisis.md), [slave labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slave-labor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/32.md)

### 33. German Federal Elections, Angela Merkel Popularity (1:59:12–2:01:51)

Polling data ahead of the German federal elections shows Chancellor Angela Merkel holding a significant lead over her rival Martin Schulz. Merkel's CDU-CSU bloc is projected to remain the strongest party, while the right-wing AfD is expected to enter the Bundestag for the first time. Despite some public protests regarding the refugee crisis, Merkel's popularity has reportedly increased in the final weeks of the campaign.

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [martin schulz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-schulz.md), [cdu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdu.md), [spd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spd.md), [bundestag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bundestag.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/33.md)

### 34. European Egg Scandal, Fipronil Contamination (2:01:51–2:04:11)

A major food safety scandal involving eggs contaminated with the insecticide fipronil has affected 40 countries. Millions of eggs were pulled from shelves and destroyed after the chemical was traced to a Dutch cleaning product supplier. EU agriculture ministers met in Estonia to discuss the breach in the food chain's integrity and the failure of rapid alert systems to catch the contamination earlier.

Keywords: fipronil, insecticide, egg scandal, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Jerry Pournelle, Science Fiction Legend Passing (2:04:11–2:07:24)

Tributes are paid to science fiction author and technology columnist Jerry Pournelle, who passed away at age 84. Pournelle had recently returned from Dragon Con and reportedly died in his sleep after contracting a cold or flu. The hosts reflect on his long career, including his influential columns in Byte Magazine and his presence in the early tech media scene.

Keywords: [jerry pournelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-pournelle.md), dragon con, byte magazine, [science fiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science-fiction.md), [pneumonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pneumonia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/35.md)

### 36. No Agenda Knighting Ceremony, Show 963 (2:07:25–2:12:24)

The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for several high-level donors, including Robert Ossegueda, David McGee, and Trent Wabus. Each new knight is given a unique title and welcomed to the "No Agenda Roundtable." The segment reinforces the show's reliance on the peerage system for financial sustainability and listener engagement.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/36.md)

### 37. No Agenda Birthday List, September 11 (2:12:24–2:13:55)

The hosts read a list of birthdays for listeners and community members, noting several occurring on September 11. This regular segment serves to acknowledge the show's "boots on the ground" and maintain a personal connection with the audience.

Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md), [listeners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listeners.md), [september 11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/september-11.md), celebrations

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Charlie Rose, New York City Centric News (2:13:55–2:17:27)

A critique of Charlie Rose's "week ahead" segment on CBS highlights a heavy bias toward events occurring in New York City. The hosts point out that almost every item mentioned—from the US Open to the UN General Assembly—is located in Manhattan. They argue this reflects a narrow, provincial view of the country held by major media figures living in the New York bubble.

Keywords: [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), cultural center

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Imran Awan Investigation (2:17:27–2:20:37)

Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is distancing herself from former IT staffer Imran Awan, who was arrested by the FBI while attempting to fly to Pakistan. Awan is accused of bank fraud and procurement theft, though Wasserman Schultz claims he is being targeted due to religious profiling. Speculation continues regarding Awan's potential ties to Pakistani intelligence (ISI) and what information he may provide to federal investigators.

Keywords: [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md), [imran awan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imran-awan.md), congressional staffer, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), pakistani isi

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Gary Cohn, White House Economic Advisor Tension (2:20:38–2:24:46)

Tensions between President Trump and economic advisor Gary Cohn have escalated following Cohn's public criticism of the President's response to Charlottesville. Reports suggest Trump has stopped making eye contact with Cohn, signaling a likely departure from the administration. Cohn was previously considered a top candidate for the Federal Reserve chairmanship, but his standing has diminished as internal White House dynamics shift.

Keywords: [gary cohn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-cohn.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [charlottesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlottesville.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [tax reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-reform.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Service Dog Fraud, ADA Regulations and Therapy Pets (2:24:47–2:31:11)

The widespread use of "fake" service dogs in restaurants and on airplanes has drawn criticism from both the public and the visually impaired community. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), service dogs must perform specific tasks, whereas therapy or comfort pets have no legal right of access. Florida recently passed a law making it a misdemeanor to knowingly misrepresent a pet as a service animal, addressing the ease of buying fraudulent vests and IDs online.

Keywords: [service dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/service-dogs.md), [ada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ada.md), therapy pets, [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), florida law

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Steve Bannon, 60 Minutes Interview and Catholic Church (2:31:14–2:35:19)

In a 60 Minutes interview, Steve Bannon criticized the Catholic Church's stance on DACA, claiming the bishops have an "economic interest" in illegal immigration to fill their pews. Bannon argued that while he respects church doctrine, immigration is a matter of national sovereignty. The comments have sparked a backlash from church leaders like Cardinal Dolan, who Bannon singled out for criticism.

Keywords: [steve bannon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-bannon.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [catholic church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholic-church.md), [daca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), cardinal dolan

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/42.md)

### 43. State Department Briefing, Heather Nauert and Russian Parity (2:35:19–2:42:16)

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert faced a difficult briefing regarding the U.S. search of Russian diplomatic properties in San Francisco. Nauert argued the searches were necessary to achieve "parity" after Russia expelled U.S. diplomats, but she struggled to answer questions about the legality of searching sovereign property. The briefing became contentious when Nauert accused journalists of "working for RT" for asking critical questions.

Keywords: [heather nauert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heather-nauert.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), diplomatic parity, san francisco embassy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Facebook, Pharmaceutical Marketing and Media Competition (2:42:19–2:45:03)

Facebook held a private breakfast for pharmaceutical marketers to discuss targeting users for clinical trials, a move that threatens the advertising revenue of traditional cable news networks. The hosts suggest that the sudden surge in media criticism of Facebook—including reports on Russian election meddling—is partly driven by the networks' fear of losing lucrative pharma ad dollars to the social media giant.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Dennis Rodman, Kim Jong-un and Good Morning Britain (2:45:04–2:49:59)

Dennis Rodman appeared on Good Morning Britain to discuss his personal friendship with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, describing their time together as involving karaoke and horseback riding. Rodman expressed hope that he could facilitate a meeting between Kim and President Trump. Host Piers Morgan ended the interview by asking to join Rodman on his next trip to the Hermit Kingdom.

Keywords: [dennis rodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-rodman.md), [kim jong-un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-un.md), [piers morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/piers-morgan.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Google HTTPS Deadline, Website Security Requirements (2:50:00–2:50:55)

Google has set a deadline for websites to transition to HTTPS, warning that the Chrome browser will soon flag non-secure sites with prominent warnings. The hosts discuss the technical hurdles of updating older websites and Amazon S3 buckets to meet these new security standards. They express frustration with being forced into these changes by Google's dominant market position.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [https](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/https.md), ssl, chrome browser, [web development](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/web-development.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Miami International Airport, Final Flights Before Irma (2:50:57–2:56:32)

Miami International Airport saw record-breaking passenger volume as residents scrambled to catch the last flights out before Hurricane Irma's arrival. Airlines added thousands of seats, but many travelers remained stranded as the terminal eventually closed. Those unable to secure flights were bused to local emergency shelters to wait out the storm.

Keywords: [miami international airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-international-airport.md), [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [evacuation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evacuation.md), [airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airlines.md), shelters

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/963-born-this-way/chapter/47.md)

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