# Service Pony

> A massive hurricane exposes the fragility of American weather models while a shadow struggle for control of the White House plays out between military handlers and the CIA.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 962
- **Published:** 2017-09-07
- **Length:** 3h 1m
- **Topics:** [Hurricane Irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [Price Gouging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-gouging.md), [John Kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [DACA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), BBC Pidgin, DolphinAttack, Verrit
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony

## About this episode

Hurricane Irma bears down on Florida as Miami officials warn of catastrophic failures involving twenty-five construction cranes and a twelve-foot storm surge. While NBC News and CBS News broadcast conflicting surge estimates, residents in the Caribbean protectorates of Barbuda and Saba report flattened infrastructure and destroyed airports. The storm's intensity has sparked a debate over meteorological supercomputing, with the European model currently outperforming American systems in high-resolution predictive accuracy.

Amazon faces price gouging allegations after dynamic pricing algorithms spiked bottled water costs, while the Red Cross draws criticism for allegedly blocking hot meal deliveries in Houston following Hurricane Harvey. In the political sphere, Steve Pieczenik claims a power struggle exists between military intelligence and the CIA for influence over the Trump administration. General John Kelly is reportedly managing White House operations as the Rand Corporation shapes a new strategy for North Korea involving psychological operations and the Sony film The Interview.

Linguistic oddities and cultural shifts take center stage as the BBC launches a Pidgin English service for West Africa, featuring viral stories of disastrous Tinder dates. Prime Minister Theresa May faces a parliamentary battle over the Brexit Repeal Bill while Jeremy Corbyn challenges the use of zero-hours contracts at McDonald's. In a lighter moment, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the proliferation of service animals in airports and the rise of childless European leaders like Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/transcript.md.

### 1. Hurricane Irma Preparations, Horowitz Tiki Hut Construction (0:00–2:32)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session discussing the weather conditions in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They report on a text from a friend named Horowitz who is preparing his boat and a newly constructed Tiki hut for Hurricane Irma in Florida. The construction of the Tiki hut reportedly required specific blessings or involvement from American Indians to bypass certain permit requirements.

Keywords: [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [horowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horowitz.md), tiki hut, seminole indians, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Hurricane Skepticism, Barbuda and Saba Storm Damage (2:33–4:46)

The discussion shifts to the geographical impact of Hurricane Irma on Caribbean islands like Barbuda and the Dutch protectorate of Saba. While acknowledging reports of flattened airports and destroyed infrastructure, skepticism is expressed regarding the accuracy of hurricane path predictions and "spaghetti models." Comparisons are made to previous storms like Hurricane Matthew, which some characterized as a "dud" relative to the initial media hype.

Keywords: [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), barbuda, saba, [hurricane matthew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-matthew.md), atlantic hurricanes, storm models

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Meteorological Supercomputers, European vs American Weather Models (4:47–6:31)

A comparison of weather forecasting technology reveals that the European model is often considered superior to American models due to higher resolution and better supercomputing power. The hosts question why American meteorological technology has seemingly lagged behind since the 1980s. The segment concludes with a brief critique of how news algorithms and supercomputers are used to influence public opinion and maintain a state of fear.

Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [supercomputers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supercomputers.md), [weather models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-models.md), european model, meteorological data, [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/3.md)

### 4. NBC News Coverage, Hurricane Irma Impact and Miami Infrastructure (6:32–11:06)

NBC News reports highlight the intensity of Hurricane Irma, comparing it to Hurricane Andrew from 25 years prior. Coverage focuses on Miami's readiness, specifically the danger posed by 25 construction cranes that could collapse in Category 5 winds and the potential for a 12-foot storm surge. Residents with hurricane-impact windows discuss their preparations while the media emphasizes the record-setting strength of the storm.

Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), hurricane andrew, [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md), construction cranes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/4.md)

### 5. CBS News Coverage, Caribbean Destruction and Storm Surge Discrepancies (11:09–14:07)

CBS News provides updates on the destruction in Puerto Rico, St. Martin, and St. Bartholomew, where wind gusts topped 200 miles per hour. A discrepancy is noted between NBC's 12-foot storm surge prediction and CBS's 9-foot estimate. The report features a resident in Puerto Rico who refused to evacuate, claiming his self-built house was strong enough to withstand the record-setting winds.

Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [puerto rico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puerto-rico.md), [st. martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-martin.md), st. bartholomew, [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md), [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Construction Crane Safety, Meteorological Data Collection Issues (14:09–16:05)

The conversation addresses the logistical difficulty of dismantling large construction cranes before a storm, which can take up to two weeks. A producer provides a report claiming that actual ground-based weather stations often record lower wind speeds than those reported by the National Hurricane Center. There is a further claim that some weather stations are intentionally disabled when a hurricane makes landfall to avoid recording data that contradicts official estimates.

Keywords: construction cranes, [engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/engineering.md), [wind speeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wind-speeds.md), national hurricane center, [weather stations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-stations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Amazon Price Gauging Allegations, Dynamic Pricing Algorithms (16:06–17:34)

Amazon faces accusations of price gouging in Florida as bottled water prices reportedly spiked ahead of Hurricane Irma. The company denies engaging in "surge pricing" but admits to using "dynamic pricing" algorithms that adjust costs based on demand. The hosts criticize the use of machine learning to jack up prices for essential goods during emergencies, arguing it subverts traditional supply and demand principles.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [price gouging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-gouging.md), [bottled water](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bottled-water.md), [dynamic pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dynamic-pricing.md), [machine learning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/machine-learning.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Media Storm Reporting Trends, Female Reporters in High Winds (17:36–19:14)

A trend is noted in broadcast journalism where female reporters are increasingly sent into the center of storms to be buffeted by high winds for live shots. The hosts question the logic and safety of these reports, noting that while the public is told to "hunker down" and shelter in place, reporters remain exposed on camera. They suggest that such segments could easily be faked using green screens.

Keywords: [broadcast news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcast-news.md), [weather reporting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-reporting.md), hurricane coverage, lindsay reiser, [media trends](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-trends.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Florida Resident Logistics, Orlando Supply Shortages (19:16–21:03)

A producer from Orlando, Florida, provides a first-hand account of the local atmosphere, noting that many residents view hurricanes as an annoyance rather than a threat. Despite this, grocery stores like Publix ran out of water within 30 minutes of opening. Logistics companies in the region are shutting down operations for up to five days, diverting trucks away from Miami and Tampa until the storm passes.

Keywords: [publix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publix.md), [orlando](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orlando.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md), [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Climate Change Debate, San Jose State Professor Analysis (21:04–23:26)

Professor Allison Bridger from San Jose State University links the recent string of hurricanes and heat waves directly to global warming. She argues that warming oceans and atmospheres are creating a "new normal" of extreme weather events. The hosts express skepticism toward this narrative, critiquing the professor's presentation and questioning the validity of "500-year flood" labels for events like Hurricane Harvey.

Keywords: [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [san jose state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-jose-state.md), [hurricane harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-harvey.md), [meteorology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Hyperbolic Media Narratives, Historical Hurricane Comparisons (23:30–25:10)

The discussion focuses on the tendency of modern media to label every weather event as the "worst ever." While Hurricane Irma is significant, it is noted as the second largest in the Atlantic, not the first. The hosts argue that this hyperbolic framing is designed to drive engagement ("if it bleeds, it leads") rather than provide historical context.

Keywords: media hyperbole, [reno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reno.md), [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), atlantic hurricanes, [weather history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Red Cross Criticism, Houston Relief Distribution Issues (25:11–27:47)

Reports from Houston following Hurricane Harvey suggest that the Red Cross interfered with local relief efforts, including blocking the delivery of hot meals to evacuees. Critics argue that the organization's methodology of centralizing all donations before distribution causes unnecessary delays for those in immediate need. The hosts advise listeners to be cautious with cash donations and mention the lack of visible financial aid from the Clinton Foundation.

Keywords: [red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cross.md), [hurricane harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-harvey.md), [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), charitable donations, [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Vocabulary Discussion, Adverbs and "Askance" (27:48–30:20)

A brief linguistic detour occurs regarding the word "askance," which one host was previously unfamiliar with. They discuss its use as an adverb and reference Stephen King's advice that "adverbs are not your friend" in writing. The segment transitions back to Horowitz's boat insurance and the relative safety of his house in Florida.

Keywords: [vocabulary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocabulary.md), [grammar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grammar.md), [stephen king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-king.md), [adverbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adverbs.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Steve Pieczenik, Military Intelligence vs CIA Power Struggle (30:21–34:23)

Steve Pieczenik, a former military intelligence official, claims that a struggle for influence over the presidency exists between military intelligence and the CIA. Pieczenik asserts that Barack Obama was a CIA asset handled by John Brennan, whereas Donald Trump is being "handled" by military intelligence. The theory suggests that General John Kelly was placed in the White House to manage Trump's behavior, mirroring a psychological pattern from Trump's youth at a military academy.

Keywords: [steve pieczenik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-pieczenik.md), [military intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-intelligence.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [john kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [continuity of government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/continuity-of-government.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/14.md)

### 15. White House Internal Dynamics, General John Kelly's Role (34:24–37:17)

The internal power structure of the Trump administration is analyzed, with General John Kelly described as the essential figure maintaining order. There are claims that Kelly and other military handlers have restricted Trump's Twitter access and are pushing him toward more conventional military strategies in North Korea and Afghanistan. The hosts discuss the tension between "peacetime generals" and combat-experienced personnel regarding these global conflicts.

Keywords: [john kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kelly.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [military coup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-coup.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Trump Teleprompter Gaffes, "Unite the Red Tape" (37:18–39:12)

Donald Trump is observed struggling with teleprompter delivery during a speech in South Dakota, leading to a verbal gaffe where he said "unite the red tape" instead of "untie." The hosts compare his delivery style to Al Sharpton and suggest that his handlers are forcing him to use a prompter more frequently to control his messaging. Despite the awkward delivery, the segment notes Trump's ongoing efforts toward deregulation.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [gaffes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffes.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [deregulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deregulation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/16.md)

### 17. North Korea Strategy, Rand Corporation Influence and "The Interview" (39:14–41:38)

Bruce Bennett of the Rand Corporation is identified as a key architect behind the current U.S. strategy toward North Korea. A report suggests that the CIA may have been involved in the production of the Sony film "The Interview" as a psychological operation intended to destabilize Kim Jong-un's regime. Steve Pieczenik's past at Rand is mentioned, along with his habit of referencing the "Bill Hicks is Alex Jones" conspiracy theory.

Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [rand corporation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-corporation.md), bruce bennett, [sony pictures](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony-pictures.md), [the interview](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-interview.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/17.md)

### 18. North Korean Nuclear Testing, Dennis Rodman Diplomacy (41:38–45:12)

Reports of a North Korean hydrogen bomb test are met with skepticism, with the hosts questioning if the seismic activity was actually a cave-in at a nuclear facility. They discuss the "insane" idea of reuniting the Koreas under U.S. and South Korean rule. Dennis Rodman's unique relationship with North Korea is highlighted, with the suggestion that he may possess more diplomatic insight than professional politicians.

Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [hydrogen bomb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrogen-bomb.md), nuclear test site, [dennis rodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-rodman.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Trump Animal Abuse Protest, Hollywood Walk of Fame (45:13–48:29)

A protest on the Hollywood Walk of Fame accused Donald Trump of being an animal abuser, primarily because he is the first president in 145 years not to have a dog. Man-on-the-street interviews from the event feature a self-described communist who claims communism "worked in America back in the day." The hosts mock the protesters' logic and the shifting definitions of political ideologies among the activists.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md), hollywood walk of fame, [communism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communism.md), [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Speciesism and Animal Rights, Melania Trump Fur Controversy (48:28–51:39)

The concept of "speciesism"—the idea that favoring humans over animals is a form of prejudice—is discussed following its mention by protesters. The hosts look up the term in the dictionary and mock the activists' claims that Melania Trump's wardrobe choice of fur constitutes animal abuse. The segment highlights the extreme rhetoric used by anti-Trump protesters regarding animal and human rights.

Keywords: [speciesism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/speciesism.md), [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md), [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), fur, [dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dictionary.md), [activism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/activism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Service Animal Abuse, Pope Francis on Procreation (51:40–55:16)

The proliferation of service animals in public spaces like airports is criticized as an abuse of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Anecdotes describe service dogs fighting in terminals and defecating on planes. The hosts reference Pope Francis's recent comments encouraging people to raise children instead of pets, noting the negative population growth in European countries like Italy.

Keywords: [service dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/service-dogs.md), [ada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ada.md), airport travel, [pope francis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-francis.md), [population growth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-growth.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/21.md)

### 22. UK Prime Minister's Questions, Zero-Hours Contracts Debate (55:16–59:05)

During Prime Minister's Questions, Jeremy Corbyn challenges Theresa May over the use of "zero-hours contracts" at McDonald's, where workers went on strike for better pay. These contracts, which do not guarantee minimum working hours, are common in the UK and the EU. The hosts explain that such contracts are often used by employers to bypass strict European labor laws that make firing employees difficult.

Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [jeremy corbyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeremy-corbyn.md), [mcdonald's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonald-s.md), zero-hours contracts, [uk parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk-parliament.md), [labor rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/22.md)

### 23. European Labor Laws, Corporate Pay Transparency (59:05–1:03:11)

The difficulty of firing employees in the European Union is discussed, with the hosts noting that companies often need court permission or specific dates to conduct layoffs. The UK government's proposals on corporate governance are examined, specifically the idea of giving shareholders binding votes on executive pay packages to curb "corporate greed."

Keywords: [labor laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-laws.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [corporate governance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporate-governance.md), [executive pay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-pay.md), [shareholders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shareholders.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Public Broadcasting Pay Scales, The Balkanende Rule (1:03:11–1:05:32)

The Netherlands' "Balkanende rule," which mandates that no public official or public broadcasting employee can earn more than the Prime Minister, is cited as a model for socialistic pay caps. This has led to "top talent" leaving public stations for commercial broadcasters. The hosts discuss how this experiment in pay transparency and limitation is affecting organizations like the BBC.

Keywords: [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), balkanende rule, [public broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-broadcasting.md), [executive compensation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-compensation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Brexit Repeal Bill, UK Immigration Proposals (1:05:33–1:09:16)

Theresa May faces a parliamentary battle over the "Repeal Bill," intended to sever legal ties with the European Union by 2019. Leaked documents suggest the UK plans to end the free movement of labor immediately after Brexit, limiting low-skilled workers to two-year residencies. The segment also mentions rapper Stormzy calling the Prime Minister a "pagan" at the GQ Awards.

Keywords: [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [house of commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-commons.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), eu withdrawal bill, stormzy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/25.md)

### 26. EU Law Entanglement, Post-Brexit Legal Challenges (1:09:17–1:12:06)

The process of untangling 40 years of EU law from the British system is described as a massive logistical "mess." While the public voted for immigration control, the practical application of new permit systems and the repeal of embedded regulations will keep the government occupied for years. The hosts reflect on the complexity of transitioning from EU membership to full sovereignty.

Keywords: [eu law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eu-law.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [work permits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/work-permits.md), [legal reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-reform.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/26.md)

### 27. BBC Pidgin Service, West African Digital News (1:12:07–1:15:09)

The BBC has launched a digital news service in Pidgin English specifically for audiences in West and Central Africa. The hosts read headlines from the site, including stories about Hurricane Irma and a Beyonce-themed course at the University of Copenhagen. They compare the service to "Ebonics" and marvel at the linguistic style used by the British broadcaster.

Keywords: bbc pidgin, [west africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-africa.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [ebonics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebonics.md), university of copenhagen, [beyonce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beyonce.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/27.md)

### 28. BBC Pidgin Viral Stories, Tinder Date Incident (1:15:10–1:17:26)

A viral story about a British student's disastrous Tinder date—where a woman got stuck in a window trying to retrieve a discarded turd—is reported by the BBC Pidgin service. The hosts use this as an example of the "low-brow" content being pushed by news algorithms. They conclude the segment by critiquing the BBC's use of ads on their Pidgin platform.

Keywords: bbc pidgin, [tinder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tinder.md), viral news, liam smith, [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Value-for-Value Model, Producer Donations and Karma (1:17:26–1:22:29)

The hosts explain their "value-for-value" funding model, where listeners (producers) contribute financially to support the show instead of traditional advertising. They read a donation from a producer who requested "gender karma" for his fifth child and another from a "baronet" who called his boss a "douchebag" and requested "jobs karma" after being fired.

Keywords: [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Executive Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony Preparation (1:22:30–1:26:57)

Several high-tier donors are recognized as Executive Producers for their significant financial contributions. One donor, Steven Schneider, is preparing for his knighthood ceremony. Another donor, Timothy A, requested specific sound clips including "Boom Shakalaka" and "WTC7 won't go away." The hosts discuss the 1963 birth year and various "de-douching" requests from the audience.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [wtc7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wtc7.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Global Donor Support, No Agenda Peerage (1:26:58–1:31:36)

Donations from international producers in the UK, France, and Portugal are acknowledged. A "Dame" from North Carolina contributes $200 for her 25th birthday and requests "F cancer" karma for her mother. The hosts express pride in the show's nearly 10-year longevity and the community's role in sustaining the production without corporate sponsors.

Keywords: [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [international listeners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-listeners.md), cancer awareness, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Facebook Ad Reach Discrepancies, Bloomberg Analysis (1:31:37–1:35:08)

An analyst report from Brian Weiser of Pivotal Research reveals that Facebook claims an "estimated reach" in the U.S. that exceeds the actual population recorded by the U.S. Census by 10 million people. Facebook attributes the discrepancy to tourists and duplicate accounts, but critics argue the company is inflating its numbers to advertisers. The hosts use this as evidence that the traditional digital advertising model is "full of crap."

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), us census, brian weiser, pivotal research, [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Mark Zuckerberg and the "Dreamers" Propaganda (1:35:08–1:39:04)

Mark Zuckerberg's public meeting with "Dreamers" is criticized as a calculated piece of propaganda. The hosts argue that the term "Dreamer" was a brilliant marketing invention designed to make opposition to the DREAM Act seem like an attack on the American Dream. They also mock Zuckerberg's "robotic" and "creepy" physical posture during the meeting, suggesting he appears to be "on the spectrum."

Keywords: [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [daca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), [dreamers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreamers.md), [american dream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-dream.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/33.md)

### 34. DACA Executive Order, Trump's Referral to Congress (1:39:05–1:43:06)

The history of DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) is explained as an executive order issued by President Obama because Congress failed to pass the DREAM Act. President Trump's decision to phase out the program is framed as a move to force Congress to fulfill its constitutional role in making immigration law. The hosts question the accuracy of the "800,000" figure often cited for DACA recipients.

Keywords: [daca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daca.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [immigration law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Tucker Carlson vs. Reason Magazine, Open Borders Debate (1:43:07–1:48:13)

In a heated interview, Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor-in-chief of Reason magazine, tells Tucker Carlson that the U.S. has no moral obligation to prioritize citizens over immigrants. She advocates for a "billion Americans," arguing that a massive population increase would make the country an "unstoppable" economic power. The hosts label her a "globalist" and criticize her perspective as detached from the reality of poverty in high-population countries like India.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), katherine mangu-ward, reason magazine, [libertarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libertarianism.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Libertarianism and Globalism, "Popular While White" (1:48:15–1:51:20)

The hosts discuss the internal conflicts within modern libertarianism and the rise of "globalist" viewpoints in publications like Reason. They introduce the phrase "popular while white" to describe public figures like Mike Rowe and Taylor Swift, who they claim are pressured to adopt specific political stances to avoid being "canceled" by the media.

Keywords: [libertarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libertarianism.md), [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md), [mike rowe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rowe.md), [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [identity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-politics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Taylor Swift "Aryan Goddess" Narrative, Fan Interaction (1:51:21–1:53:40)

The media's attempt to link Taylor Swift to "alt-right" or "Aryan" imagery is discussed. A recent incident where Swift was booed at a friend's wedding for using blankets to hide from paparazzi is analyzed; the hosts suggest the media misrepresented the reason for the booing to fit a "douchebag" narrative.

Keywords: [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [alt-right](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alt-right.md), [media narrative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-narrative.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md), fans

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Fashion Industry Skinny Model Ban, LVMH and Kering (1:53:40–1:56:24)

Major fashion houses including Gucci and Christian Dior have signed a charter banning the hiring of ultra-thin models and those under age 16. The hosts dismiss this as "pandering" and "bullcrap," noting that similar bans have been announced for decades without significant change in the industry. They suggest the move is a PR stunt timed for Fashion Week.

Keywords: [gucci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gucci.md), christian dior, lvmh, kering, skinny models, [fashion week](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion-week.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/38.md)

### 39. German Election Debate, Angela Merkel vs. Martin Schulz (1:56:25–2:00:30)

The televised debate between Chancellor Angela Merkel and her challenger Martin Schulz is described by German media as a "duet" rather than a duel due to the lack of conflict. Critics argue the debate ignored the most pressing issue for voters: migration. Despite some public dissatisfaction, Merkel is expected to win the upcoming national election easily.

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [martin schulz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-schulz.md), [cdu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdu.md), [spd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spd.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), televised debate

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/39.md)

### 40. European Leadership Trends, Childless Heads of State (2:00:34–2:05:06)

A demographic trend is noted among European leaders, including Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Theresa May, and Mark Rutte, all of whom are childless. The hosts discuss the potential psychological and political implications of being led by individuals with no direct stake in the future through offspring. They also touch on Merkel's long tenure, spanning back to the George W. Bush era.

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), childless leaders

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Facebook Russian Ad Buy, Rachel Maddow Coverage (2:05:08–2:09:53)

Rachel Maddow's 40-minute segment on Facebook selling $100,000 in ads to Russian entities is critiqued as "delusional" and hyperbolic. The ads in question reportedly focused on divisive social issues like LGBT rights and immigration rather than specific candidates. The hosts argue that $100,000 is an insignificant amount in a presidential election and mock the idea that 3,000 ads could "throw" the results.

Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [election interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-interference.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Advertising Mechanics, Propaganda vs. Influence (2:09:55–2:14:06)

The technical aspects of the Russian Facebook ad buy are analyzed, with the hosts questioning the reported numbers of "3,000 ads." They point out the irony of Facebook promising to fix its algorithms so ads don't "influence" people, noting that the entire purpose of advertising is influence. They conclude that "political propaganda" is a standard practice used by all sides.

Keywords: [cpm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpm.md), [impressions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impressions.md), [facebook ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook-ads.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [election meddling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-meddling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Etymology of "Nitty-Gritty", Ham Radio Donors (2:14:06–2:17:57)

A brief discussion on the etymology of the phrase "nitty-gritty" suggests it may have originated as a derogatory term in the American South. The hosts also acknowledge several "Ham" radio operators who contributed to the show, using their call signs and discussing "boob" donations (amounts ending in .85 or .80).

Keywords: nitty-gritty, [etymology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etymology.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [slang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slang.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Congressional Staff Listeners, Military Support for No Agenda (2:17:57–2:22:30)

The hosts acknowledge a growing number of listeners among Congressional staff and military personnel. They suggest that these groups appreciate the show's willingness to call out "pencil-pushing non-combat generals" and provide insights not found in mainstream media. Donors from Washington D.C. and various military branches are thanked for their support.

Keywords: [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), podcast audience

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/44.md)

### 45. AARP Membership, Senior Discounts and "Old White Men" (2:22:30–2:26:42)

Adam Curry discusses receiving his AARP membership invitation in the mail, jokingly embracing his status as an "old white man." The hosts discuss the practical benefits of the card, such as discounts at Denny's and on rental cars. They compare using an expired or unverified membership card to flashing a "KLM Gold Card" to get perks.

Keywords: [aarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aarp.md), senior discounts, [aging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aging.md), denny's, klm gold card

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Stephen of Coffee and Tobacco (2:26:50–2:29:20)

Stephen Schneider is officially knighted as "Sir Stephen of the coffee roasting and tobacco pipes" for his $1,000 aggregate contribution to the show. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, granting him a seat at the No Agenda Round Table. Other peerage elevations, including a new Baronet, are also announced.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [stephen schneider](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-schneider.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceremony.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Intel EU Antitrust Case, Billion Euro Fine Re-examination (2:29:21–2:30:44)

The European Court of Justice has ordered a re-examination of a billion-euro antitrust fine imposed on Intel eight years ago. The case is seen as a significant test for other ongoing probes into tech giants like Google and Amazon. The hosts express skepticism that the EU will ever successfully collect these large fines from American tech companies.

Keywords: [intel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intel.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [antitrust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antitrust.md), [european court of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-court-of-justice.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/47.md)

### 48. IFA Berlin Tech Show, Sony 3D Scanning and LG V30 (2:30:45–2:33:04)

At the IFA electronics show in Berlin, Sony unveiled new smartphones capable of 3D scanning, allowing users to create 3D-printable models of objects and heads. LG also launched the V30, featuring advanced "light-sensitive optics" and cinematic video filters. The hosts discuss the "gimmicky" nature of these features and the high cost of modern smartphones.

Keywords: ifa berlin, [sony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony.md), 3d scanning, lg v30, [smartphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphones.md), [mobile technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mobile-technology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Apple and Tiffany Partnership Rumors, Luxury Tech Market (2:33:04–2:36:09)

Speculation arises regarding a potential partnership between Apple and luxury jeweler Tiffany & Co., based on high levels of insider buying at Tiffany's. The hosts suggest that a "Tiffany Phone" could be a successful move for Apple as it seeks to maintain its high profit-per-square-foot retail dominance. They argue the market is ready for a new luxury-tier device beyond standard face recognition features.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), tiffany & co, [luxury goods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/luxury-goods.md), [insider trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insider-trading.md), retail stores

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Ultrasonic Voice Assistant Vulnerability, "DolphinAttack" Research (2:36:09–2:40:22)

Chinese researchers have demonstrated that voice assistants like Siri, Alexa, and Cortana can be controlled using ultrasonic commands inaudible to the human ear. This "DolphinAttack" vulnerability allows hackers to send silent instructions to devices. The hosts discuss the potential for broadcasting these high-frequency commands via television or in public spaces, though they note technical limitations in podcast audio encoding.

Keywords: [siri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siri.md), [alexa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexa.md), [cortana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cortana.md), ultrasonic, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), chinese researchers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Sarah Huckabee Sanders Gaffes, The View Interview (2:40:22–2:43:05)

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is caught in a verbal gaffe, accidentally attributing a Trump policy to President Obama. She also appeared on "The View," where host Joy Behar claimed that 95% of Donald Trump's statements are lies, citing PolitiFact and The New York Times. The hosts mock Behar's "moronic" reliance on these fact-checking outlets.

Keywords: [sarah huckabee sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-huckabee-sanders.md), [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [joy behar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-behar.md), [politifact](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/politifact.md), [gaffes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Democratic Party 2020 Strategy, "Two White Men" Debate (2:43:07–2:47:29)

MSNBC's Chris Matthews and other pundits debate whether the Democratic Party can afford to run "two white men" on the 2020 presidential ticket. They suggest that the party requires ethnic or gender balance, mentioning Kamala Harris and Cory Booker as potential candidates. The hosts compare this to the "charm" of Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, arguing that personality often outweighs identity in winning elections.

Keywords: [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [identity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-politics.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/52.md)

### 53. David Brock's Verrit Launch, Pro-Clinton Media Platform (2:47:31–2:50:44)

David Brock has launched Verrit, a new media platform aimed at the "65.8 million" Hillary Clinton voters. The site uses "authentication codes" to verify its pro-Clinton "facts," which the hosts describe as blatant propaganda. They mock the site's lack of an RSS feed and mention a producer who registered a "typo-squatting" domain, Cerit.com, to counter the platform.

Keywords: [david brock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brock.md), verrit, [shareblue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shareblue.md), [media matters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-matters.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Global Conflict Update, Rohingya Persecution and Angola Elections (2:50:45–2:53:06)

A "clip blitz" provides updates on international news, including U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan that killed civilians and the mass exodus of Rohingya Muslims from Burma to Bangladesh. In Angola, the ruling MPLA party extended its 37-year rule with the election of João Lourenço. The hosts note the "mean-spirited" nature of the Buddhist-led violence against the Rohingya.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [rohingya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rohingya.md), [burma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burma.md), [bangladesh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bangladesh.md), [angola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angola.md), mpla

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Catalonia Independence Referendum, Yemen Cholera Crisis (2:53:12–2:55:41)

The Catalan government has set a binding referendum for independence from Spain for October 1st, despite opposition from Madrid. Meanwhile, in Yemen, the Saudi-led coalition continues airstrikes as the country faces a massive cholera epidemic and starvation. The hosts criticize the lack of media coverage regarding the humanitarian disaster in Yemen and the ongoing U.S. support for the conflict.

Keywords: [catalonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catalonia.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [independence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independence.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), saudi coalition, [cholera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cholera.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/55.md)

### 56. Show Wrap-up, Hurricane Safety and Outro Mix (2:55:42–3:01:50)

The hosts conclude the episode with a final warning for listeners in Florida to stay safe during Hurricane Irma. They sign off from Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley, reminding the audience of the upcoming Sunday show. The episode ends with a produced audio mix featuring show themes, "Boom Shakalaka" clips, and critiques of news algorithms.

Keywords: [hurricane irma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-irma.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/962-service-pony/chapter/56.md)

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