# Roundly Debunked > A suspicious Russian memo complicates the Clinton email probe while intelligence leaks and media sensationalism dominate the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bombing. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 932 - **Published:** 2017-05-25 - **Length:** 3h 3m - **Topics:** [Russian Disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-disinformation.md), Manchester Bombing, [Seth Rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md), NSA Spying, [Imran Awan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imran-awan.md), [Contempt of Congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contempt-of-congress.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked ## About this episode A potentially fraudulent document planted by Russian intelligence reportedly influenced James Comey and the FBI during the Hillary Clinton email investigation. The memo, which detailed alleged assurances from Attorney General Loretta Lynch to the Clinton campaign, is now being scrutinized as a possible disinformation operation designed to discredit the bureau. This development surfaces as the media narrative shifts toward obstruction of justice claims following the dismissal of the FBI Director. In the wake of the Manchester Arena bombing, UK officials are investigating Salman Abedi and a sophisticated network spanning into Libya. While CNN analysts like Tara Maller suggest the bomb-maker remains at large, tensions have flared between U.S. and UK intelligence agencies over unauthorized leaks to the New York Times. Simultaneously, Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz has confronted the Capitol Police Chief over a seized laptop belonging to her former IT staffer, Imran Awan, while Fox News faces advertiser boycotts from Cars.com and Peloton following its retraction of the Seth Rich murder investigation story. Technical glitches on Tucker Carlson’s program and the viral analysis of Melania Trump swatting the President’s hand highlight a week of media sensationalism. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the technical reality of news production, from IFB ear-pieces to the use of former CIA assets as pundits. The show also explores the legal history of Contempt of Congress and the irony of Maxine Waters’ 1998 defense of Bill Clinton against what she then termed a Republican coup d'etat. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/transcript.md. ### 1. Introduction, Tina's Surgery, and Hospital Humor (0:00–3:34) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show with Curry providing an update on his wife Tina's recovery from a partial thyroidectomy. Curry describes the atmosphere at the hospital and his tendency to make jokes during stressful situations to lighten the mood. Dvorak shares his own history with minor surgical procedures involving cysts on his neck and back. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [tina curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-curry.md), thyroidectomy, [hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/1.md) ### 2. FBI Investigation, Hillary Clinton Email Memo, and Russian Disinformation (3:34–10:35) The discussion shifts to a breaking news report regarding a potentially fake document that influenced James Comey's handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. The document allegedly detailed an email where Attorney General Loretta Lynch assured the Clinton campaign she would protect the investigation. Sources suggest the document may have been a product of Russian intelligence planted to discredit Clinton, though the hosts speculate on whether the document was real but made to look fake. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [loretta lynch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/loretta-lynch.md), [russian intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-intelligence.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Don Lemon on Conan, Trump Resignation Theory, and Media Criticism (10:35–19:46) CNN host Don Lemon's appearance on Conan is analyzed, specifically his theory that Donald Trump does not enjoy being President and may seek a way out. Lemon mocks the President's appearance, questioning the level of his spray tan and his golfing habits. The hosts criticize Lemon's attempt to be a "serious journalist" while performing comedy bits on late-night television. Keywords: [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [conan o'brien](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conan-o-brien.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), spray tan, reality star, [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Melania Trump Hand Swat, Misinterpreted Lyrics, and Relationship Speculation (19:46–23:38) A viral video of Melania Trump appearing to swat away Donald Trump's hand while disembarking Air Force One is discussed. The hosts compare the media's interpretation of this event to the phenomenon of misheard song lyrics, such as Jimmy Hendrix's "Purple Haze." They argue that the media is over-analyzing a brief moment to fit a narrative of marital strife. Keywords: [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), jimmy hendrix, [lyrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyrics.md), [relationship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationship.md), [media speculation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-speculation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Rachel Maddow on Colbert, Russia Investigation, and Obstruction Claims (23:38–28:25) Rachel Maddow's interview with Stephen Colbert is reviewed, focusing on her claims regarding the Trump campaign's contacts with Russian officials. Maddow emphasizes the 18-day delay in firing Michael Flynn and suggests that firing James Comey constitutes obstruction of justice. The hosts mock her delivery and the lack of concrete evidence presented in her arguments. Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [obstruction of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obstruction-of-justice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Representative Blake Farenthold, DNC Servers, and CNN Interview (28:26–34:36) Texas Representative Blake Farenthold's appearance on CNN is highlighted, where he questioned why the FBI was never allowed to physically examine the DNC servers. The CNN hosts aggressively challenged Farenthold for bringing up "things swirling on the internet," which the hosts interpret as a defense of the established narrative. Farenthold argued that the media should focus on policy issues like healthcare and taxes rather than anonymous allegations. Keywords: blake farenthold, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [dnc server](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc-server.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [seth rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md), [anonymous sources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous-sources.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Broadcast News Production, Tom Brokaw, and IFB Feeding (34:36–38:10) A story is shared about the technical side of news broadcasting, specifically how producers feed information to anchors through IFBs (Interruptible Foldback). An anecdote describes watching Tom Brokaw interview Bill Clinton during the launch of MSNBC, where Brokaw seamlessly integrated real-time instructions from the control room into his questioning. The hosts discuss the high level of skill required to manage these inputs while remaining professional on air. Keywords: [tom brokaw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-brokaw.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [broadcast news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcast-news.md), [ifb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ifb.md), [control room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/control-room.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Capitol Police, and Missing Laptop (38:18–42:11) Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is heard grilling the Chief of the Capitol Police regarding a laptop that was seized as part of an investigation into her former IT staffer, Imran Awan. Wasserman Schultz demands the return of the equipment, claiming it was "lost," while the police chief maintains it is evidence in an ongoing criminal case. The hosts highlight the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding the Awan brothers' activities. Keywords: [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md), [capitol police](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitol-police.md), [imran awan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imran-awan.md), [laptop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laptop.md), [evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evidence.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Seth Rich Medical Report, 4chan Surgery Resident, and Hospital VIPs (42:12–47:07) An anonymous report from 4chan, purportedly written by a surgery resident at Washington Hospital Center, describes the night Seth Rich was admitted. The report claims Rich's wounds were not fatal and that law enforcement eventually restricted access to his room before he died. A verified cardiologist producer for the show weighs in, stating the medical jargon in the post is consistent and that the level of security described for a low-level DNC staffer is highly unusual. Keywords: [seth rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md), washington hospital center, [4chan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/4chan.md), [surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surgery.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [cardiologist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cardiologist.md), medical jargon [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Sean Hannity, Fox News Retraction, and Advertiser Boycotts (47:08–53:05) Fox News retracted a story linking Seth Rich to WikiLeaks, leading to an advertiser boycott of Sean Hannity's show by companies like Cars.com and Peloton. Hannity blamed liberal watchdog groups like Media Matters for the pressure. The hosts discuss the change in leadership at Fox News and the media's use of the term "debunked" to shut down further investigation into the murder. Keywords: [sean hannity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-hannity.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [media matters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-matters.md), cars.com, peloton, [seth rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md), [retraction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retraction.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/10.md) ### 11. PBS NewsHour Coverage, Seth Rich Conspiracy, and False News (53:05–1:04:29) PBS NewsHour's report on the Seth Rich case is analyzed, specifically their use of the term "false news" instead of "fake news." The segment features Newt Gingrich questioning why the 53,000 leaked DNC emails aren't being investigated in relation to Rich. The hosts criticize the PBS analysts for claiming the theory is "roundly debunked" without providing evidence to solve the original murder case. Keywords: [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), john yang, [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [reddit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reddit.md), false news, [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [seth rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Judge Andrew Napolitano, FISA Unmasking, and NSA Violations (1:04:30–1:07:48) Judge Andrew Napolitano discusses recently released documents showing that the NSA routinely violated the Constitution by spying on Americans without warrants. Napolitano explains that the FISA court chastised the NSA for these illegal searches, which included the unmasking of General Michael Flynn. He argues that the "six degrees of separation" rule allows the government to effectively spy on the entire U.S. population. Keywords: [andrew napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-napolitano.md), [fisa court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa-court.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [unmasking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unmasking.md), [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [spying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spying.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/12.md) ### 13. New York Times Leak, Trump-Duterte Transcript, and Nuclear Submarines (1:07:49–1:10:50) The New York Times published a leaked transcript of a private phone call between President Trump and Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte. In the call, Trump reportedly revealed the location of two U.S. nuclear submarines near North Korea and praised Duterte's aggressive anti-drug campaign. The hosts criticize the media for reporting on confidential transcripts without questioning the source or the legality of the leak. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [rodrigo duterte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rodrigo-duterte.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [nuclear submarines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-submarines.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [leaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leaks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Democratic Strategy, 2018 Midterms, and Mike Pence (1:10:50–1:16:28) A theory is proposed that the Democratic Party is intentionally keeping the Russia investigation and impeachment talk alive to mobilize voters for the 2018 and 2020 elections. The hosts suggest that Democrats actually fear a Trump resignation because Vice President Mike Pence could consolidate the evangelical vote and be harder to defeat in 2020. They argue the strategy is to keep Trump "wounded" but in office for maximum political leverage. Keywords: [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [2018 elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2018-elections.md), 2020 elections, [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strategy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Greg Gianforte, Guardian Reporter Body Slam, and Media Sensationalism (1:16:29–1:18:24) During a special election in Montana, candidate Greg Gianforte was accused of "body slamming" Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs after being asked about the CBO score for the healthcare bill. The hosts discuss the lack of video evidence and suggest the term "body slam" is a sensationalized description of a physical altercation. They compare the incident to previous claims of violence against journalists by the Trump campaign. Keywords: [greg gianforte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-gianforte.md), [ben jacobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-jacobs.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md), [montana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montana.md), body slam, [special election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-election.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Contempt of Congress, Lois Lerner, and Legislative Brig (1:18:25–1:20:10) The legal definition and history of "Contempt of Congress" are explored in the context of the Michael Flynn investigation. The hosts note that the power was originally intended to punish those who bribed representatives and is distinct from judicial contempt. They point out that figures like Lois Lerner were held in contempt without serving jail time, as the power is generally tied to legislative rather than criminal matters. Keywords: [contempt of congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contempt-of-congress.md), [lois lerner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lois-lerner.md), [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [subpoenas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subpoenas.md), [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/16.md) ### 17. James Comey, Contemporaneous Notes, and Adam Schiff (1:20:11–1:22:58) The media's frequent use of the term "contemporaneous notes" regarding James Comey's memos is challenged. The hosts argue that notes taken after a meeting are "journaling" or "blogging" rather than truly contemporaneous, which would require taking notes during the conversation. Representative Adam Schiff is mocked for his appearance, with the hosts likening him to a "constipated turtle." Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [adam schiff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-schiff.md), contemporaneous notes, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), turtle, memos, journaling [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/17.md) ### 18. No Agenda Love Potion, Oxytocin, and Art Credits (1:22:59–1:24:37) The hosts discuss the latest show artwork by Melvin Gipstein, titled "No Agenda Love Potion Number 33," which features oxytocin. This artwork inspired a new jingle based on the classic "Love Potion No. 9." They encourage listeners to visit the No Agenda Art Generator to view and contribute artwork for the show. Keywords: love potion, [oxytocin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxytocin.md), melvin gipstein, [jingle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingle.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [tap water](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tap-water.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Donation Segment, Executive Producers, and Identity Theft Advice (1:24:38–1:34:56) The first donation segment features contributions from several "Executive Producers" supporting the value-for-value model. A listener named Hans Furberger provides advice on avoiding identity theft by using pseudonyms and vague locations when donating. The hosts debate the risk of sharing names and birthdays on a podcast versus other methods used by criminals. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [identity theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-theft.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Podcaster Pro Crowdfunding, Native Ads, and Newsletter Metrics (1:34:56–1:37:41) Adam Curry announces the upcoming crowdfunding campaign for his "Podcaster Pro" hardware. The hosts discuss the definition of "native advertising" and clarify that promoting their own projects is not the same as being paid by a third party to insert a story. They also note a recent dip in newsletter engagement and discuss the importance of the lower-tier donor base. Keywords: podcaster pro, [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md), [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Manchester Arena Bombing, Salman Abedi, and Network Investigation (1:37:41–1:42:29) The show covers the Manchester Arena bombing following an Ariana Grande concert, which left 22 dead. Police identified 22-year-old Salman Abedi as the suicide bomber and are investigating a wider network involving his family in Libya. The hosts question how Abedi was identified so quickly and discuss reports of a sophisticated device that he likely did not build himself. Keywords: [manchester](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manchester.md), salman abedi, [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), suicide bomb, [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Media Coverage of Manchester, Hero Stories, and Military Deployment (1:42:30–1:46:48) The hosts critique CBS News coverage of the Manchester bombing, specifically the "hero stories" that they claim are physically impossible given the nature of explosions. They also examine the deployment of British soldiers to the streets of London and Manchester. A segment from CBS is highlighted where a resident's quote about "carrying on" is used to imply she was reassured by the military presence, which the hosts call a manipulation of the narrative. Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), mark phillips, seth doan, [buckingham palace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buckingham-palace.md), [military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), heroism [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/22.md) ### 23. CIA Analysts on CNN, Bomb Signatures, and Intelligence Leaks (1:46:49–1:50:10) CNN's use of former CIA analysts to explain the Manchester bombing is scrutinized. Analyst Tara Maller suggests the bomb-maker is likely still at large because skilled bomb-makers rarely act as suicide bombers. The hosts discuss the "signatures" of IEDs and the frustration of UK officials over U.S. intelligence leaks to the New York Times regarding the investigation. Keywords: tara maller, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [forensics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forensics.md), suicide vest, [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md), [leaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leaks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Suicide Vest Forensics, German Connection, and Media Bots (1:50:11–1:59:15) A theory is presented that the Manchester bomb may have been constructed in Germany and transported to the UK. The hosts discuss the gruesome forensic reality of suicide bombings, noting that the bomber's head often remains intact, allowing for rapid identification via facial recognition. They speculate on a rift between U.S. and UK intelligence agencies regarding the control of information. Keywords: suicide vest, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md), [gchq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gchq.md), [forensics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forensics.md), [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Hillary Clinton Speech, Tucker Carlson Glitch, and Jake Wallace-Simons (1:59:17–2:07:12) Hillary Clinton's reaction to the Manchester bombing is played, followed by a strange technical glitch on Tucker Carlson's show where a voice called a reporter a "jerk." The reporter in question, Jake Wallace-Simons of the Daily Mail, is profiled. The hosts find his self-aggrandizing bio and history of reporting from every major terror site to be suspicious, suggesting he may have intelligence ties. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), jake wallace-simons, [daily mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-mail.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md), [jeremy corbyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeremy-corbyn.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Facebook Fake Accounts, FBI Investigation, and Advertiser Metrics (2:07:13–2:08:51) Facebook has reportedly asked the FBI to investigate millions of fake accounts that were purged in April, which caused a 38% drop in "likes" for some pages. Advertisers are increasingly concerned about the validity of Facebook's metrics. The hosts note the close relationship between Facebook and the FBI, including Robert Mueller's former office space in a Facebook building. Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [fake accounts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-accounts.md), [click farms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/click-farms.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [metrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metrics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Second Donation Segment, Economic Reset, and 1857 Fractal (2:08:52–2:16:01) The second donation segment includes a discussion on the current state of the economy. John Dvorak predicts a massive market correction, using the crash of 1857 as a "fractal" model. He argues that the current era of "free money" through quantitative easing mirrors the gold-driven inflation of the mid-19th century. The hosts observe that lower-tier donations are falling off, which they see as a "canary in the coal mine" for a broader economic reset. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [economic crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-crash.md), [1857](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1857.md), [quantitative easing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantitative-easing.md), [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), fractal, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Job Karma, Birthdays, and Title Changes (2:16:02–2:18:09) The hosts grant "job karma" to a long-time listener and announce several birthdays within the No Agenda community. Two listeners receive title upgrades: Sir Jason Daniels becomes the Duke of the South, and Sir Joseph Castine is named a Baronet. Keywords: [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), dukes, [knights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knights.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Marilyn Monroe, Jackie Gleason, and Alien Secrets (2:18:11–2:25:39) A segment from a new documentary titled "Unacknowledged" claims Marilyn Monroe was murdered because she threatened to reveal secrets about JFK's visit to a secret airbase to inspect extraterrestrial objects. This is followed by the famous story of Richard Nixon taking comedian Jackie Gleason to Homestead Air Force Base to see dead alien bodies in a warehouse. The hosts discuss the credibility of these long-standing rumors and the suspicious death of reporter Dorothy Kilgallen. Keywords: [marilyn monroe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marilyn-monroe.md), [jackie gleason](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jackie-gleason.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), [aliens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aliens.md), [roswell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roswell.md), dorothy kilgallen, [bobby kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bobby-kennedy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Cultural Appropriation, Portland Restaurants, and Ben & Jerry's (2:25:40–2:28:15) The hosts discuss a list of 40 restaurants in Portland being targeted for "cultural appropriation" because they are owned by white people. They also mention a Ben & Jerry's ban on two scoops of the same flavor in Australia until marriage equality is passed. They argue these trends represent "over-socialization" and the absurdity of modern social justice movements. Keywords: [cultural appropriation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-appropriation.md), [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), ben & jerry's, [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [social justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-justice.md), [restaurants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurants.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Australia Trip Planning, Florida Drought, and Climate Change (2:28:15–2:32:29) Plans for a No Agenda trip to Australia and New Zealand are discussed, with the hosts asking for airline mile donations. They then pivot to a news report from Cape Coral, Florida, where residents are experiencing a historic drought and low canal levels. The hosts contrast this with claims of rising sea levels in nearby Miami, questioning the consistency of climate change narratives. Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [cape coral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cape-coral.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [drought](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drought.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), canals [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Obamacare Rate Hikes, Trump Blame, and Healthcare Subsidies (2:32:29–2:35:09) The media and Democratic politicians are criticized for blaming President Trump for rising Obamacare premiums. A clip from a New Hampshire senator claims Trump is "undermining" the law by refusing to fund cost-sharing subsidies. The hosts argue that the system was already failing and that the "risk corridors" were a fundamental flaw in the original legislation. Keywords: [obamacare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obamacare.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md), [premiums](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/premiums.md), [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [new hampshire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-hampshire.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Deutsche Bank, Russian Loans, and Media Voices (2:35:10–2:40:15) A report from Deutsche Welle suggests that House Democrats are investigating whether Donald Trump's loans from Deutsche Bank were guaranteed by the Russian government. The hosts mock the reporter's use of the phrase "voices are saying" as a substitute for actual evidence. They discuss the $340 million Trump reportedly owes the bank and the lack of transparency regarding his financial guarantees. Keywords: [deutsche bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-bank.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [loans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/loans.md), [house democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-democrats.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [deutsche welle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-welle.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Federal Improper Payments, Medicare Fraud, and GAO Report (2:40:17–2:43:15) Comptroller General Gene Dodaro testifies that the federal government made over $144 billion in "improper payments" in 2016 alone, with a cumulative total of $1.2 trillion since 2003. The majority of these errors occur in Medicare, Medicaid, and the Earned Income Tax Credit. The hosts express outrage at the scale of the waste and the government's inability to audit the Pentagon or track these funds properly. Keywords: [gao](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gao.md), gene dodaro, [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), improper payments, [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [federal budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-budget.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Campus Rape Documentary, Occidental College, and Due Process (2:43:17–2:46:43) A teaser for an upcoming segment on campus rape culture focuses on a case at Occidental College. The hosts describe how a male student was expelled based on a "rape profile" despite evidence of consensual sex in text messages. They cite Stuart Taylor's book "The Campus Rape Fantasy" and criticize the lack of due process in university sexual assault tribunals. Keywords: [occidental college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/occidental-college.md), campus rape, stuart taylor, [due process](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/due-process.md), [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md), [feminism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feminism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Jeremy Scahill, The Angry Arab, and Saudi Wahhabism (2:46:44–2:49:14) Journalist Jeremy Scahill interviews Professor Abu Khalil regarding President Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia and the "glowing orb" incident. Khalil argues that the U.S. is hypocritical for partnering with the Wahhabi regime to fight extremism, as Wahhabism is itself a fanatical schism. The hosts discuss the optics of the Saudi trip and the complexities of Islamic sects. Keywords: [jeremy scahill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeremy-scahill.md), abu khalil, [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [wahhabism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wahhabism.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), the orb, [extremism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extremism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Maxine Waters 1998 Impeachment Speech, Bill Clinton, and Coup D'etat (2:49:16–2:53:06) A recording of Maxine Waters' 1998 speech defending Bill Clinton during his impeachment is played. In the speech, she calls the impeachment a "Republican coup d'etat" and an "abuse of power" driven by "unbridled hatred." The hosts point out the irony of her current stance on Donald Trump, noting that her 1998 arguments against impeachment could be applied almost verbatim to the current political climate. Keywords: [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [1998](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1998.md), [ken starr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-starr.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md), [coup d'etat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coup-d-etat.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/932-roundly-debunked/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Outro, Mastodon Trademark, and End of Show Mix (2:53:07–3:03:38) The show concludes with a discussion on the Mastodon social network project and the recent addition of a trademark to its name, which the hosts see as a sign of impending commercialization. They thank the "War Room" and the producers for their support. The episode ends with a long musical mix featuring show clips, Maxine Waters, and the "Love Potion" jingle. 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